Rove tried to kill Lieberman VP pick »
Posted By Neophile 10 months, 1 week ago in News
Republican strategist Karl Rove called Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman late last week and urged him to contact Sen. John McCain to withdraw his name from vice presidential consideration, according to three sources familiar with the conversation.
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Endoscopy10 months, 1 week ago
The ONLY thing that Lieberman differs with the Democratic party is the War in Iraq. Even now Obama is sounding more like Bush since he went there. 16 months is talked about as a time when the reduction will be but there is no more talk about out by 16 months. Just like Bush.
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If you think the Democrats should win the election then for sure have Lieberman as McCains VP choice. That would be idiotic. The Republican base would have to gag to vote a Democrat VP. A lot would just stay home. Then Obama would coast to a victory.
Why do you foolish people believe that Rove is behind everything? That is stupid really. Bush and McCain are people that think for themselves. Despite what you super libs rant. -
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capecoralM10 months, 1 week ago
Only one small problem with you assertion Radiefree. It is the Demcrat(ic) party that kicked ol' Joe, their 2000 selection for VP, to the side of the road. Here is how Joe explains it "
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Well, I say that the Democratic Party changed. The Democratic Party today was not the party it was in 2000. It's not the Bill Clinton-Al Gore party, which was strong internationalists, strong on defense, pro-trade, pro-reform in our domestic government. It's been effectively taken over by a small group on the left of the party that is protectionist, isolationist and basically will --and very, very hyperpartisan. So it pains me. I'm a Democrat who came to the party in the era of President John F. Kennedy. It's a strange turn of the road when I find among the candidates running this year that the one, in my opinion, closest to the Kennedy legacy, the John F. Kennedy legacy, is John S. McCain."
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hyperbola10 months, 1 week ago
Actually what has happened is that the zionist "Democratic Leadership Council" made up of israel-firsters has lost its grip on the democratic party. This can only be good for America - we don't need those whose first loyalty is NOT to america running the country for foreigners. This includes Lieberman. It is a sign of McCain's desperation that he is selling himself out to israel-firsters to try to win the presidency.
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Turning the Tables on the Israel-Firsters
... The idea that there are U.S. citizens who have equal loyalties to the United States and Israel is passé. American Israel-firsters have long since dropped any pretense of loyalty to the United States and its genuine national interests. They have moved brazenly into the Israel first, last, and always camp. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Norman Podhoretz, Victor Davis Hanson, the Rev. Franklin Graham, Alan Dershowitz, Rudy Giuliani, Douglas Feith, the Rev. Rod Parsley, Paul Wolfowitz, James Woolsey, Bill Kristol, the Rev. John Hagee, and the thousands of wealthy supporters of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) appear to care about the United States only so far as Washington is willing to provide immense, unending funding and the lives of young U.S. service personnel to protect Israel. These individuals and their all-for-Israel journals – Commentary, National Review, the Weekly Standard, and the Wall Street Journal – amount to nothing less than a fifth column intent on involving 300 million Americans in other peoples' religious wars, making them pay and bleed to protect a nation in which the United States has no genuine national security interest at stake....
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bluetexasvalley10 months, 1 week ago
Good find, Neo. Can't wait to see what happens Friday. Will Bush/Cheney/Rove prevail?
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Tangent00110 months, 1 week ago
Indeed! With those two on the same ticket, it'll be like Statler and Waldorf from the Muppet Show.
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TimALoftis10 months, 1 week ago
Republicans should be outraged by this kind of activity from the 'Talking Heads' of the Party. If I was McCain, I would pick Lieberman...it will show the nation that he is willing to stand up against his own party.
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Lieberman is mild mannered but he should have told Rove to shove that phone he was using to make this call up his A**-
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Tangent00110 months, 1 week ago
Interesting the MSM is not saying anything about the schisms in the Republican party.
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alakazam10 months, 1 week ago
Yes Tim...he most certainly should have.
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I hope he does pick him. It might finally wake some folks up.
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normallysilent10 months, 1 week ago
I think he's going to pick Hillary.
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Boy I can hear Obama's jaw hitting the floor now.-
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Charlson10 months, 1 week ago
I take it you didn't watch the DNC, so your statement is irrelevant.
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wtagg10 months, 1 week ago
Which McCain happened to be the target of. Irony. Another example of McCain not being the person he was 8 years ago.
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If McCain was the maverick he claims to be, he wouldn't take Rove's calls or even have him at the convention. Now he is pals with the man who suggested he had a black child out of wedlock in SC. -
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crespi10 months, 1 week ago
That Judas Democrat Lieberman was certainly feeding all the Democratic moves and strategies to the Neocons when running for Democratic VP...
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What a creep.-
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Endoscopy10 months, 1 week ago
There is that Democrat party of exclusion talking. Fail ONE litmus test and out you go.
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Grrr10 months, 1 week ago
Lieberman was very much responsible for how the 2000 FL fiasco turned out. He said the wrong things at the wrong time and screwed his own ticket out of the office.
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Endoscopy10 months, 1 week ago
This is really a non issue. With Lieberman on the ticket the Conservatives would stay home in droves. McCain would not be that stupid. If you want to know who is going to be the VP pick look at who is traveling to be with McCAin today. The announce will be made together tomorrow.
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lloydm6510 months, 1 week ago
Indoscopy : You missed the point this litmus test is not about ninth month abortions, or post birth abortion that Obama is trying to get into law.No its about the Iraq war,and who do you want win.Lieberman took americas side.Now you can understand the democrats anger.Its the same way John Soros felt when america and the allies brought Germany to her knees.He says he wants see us on our backs,therefore he willing to fund every democrat who agrees with him.
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bluetexasvalley10 months, 1 week ago
Well, why hadn't you told us that before? I mean, if Rove said it...ROFLMAO
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injest10 months, 1 week ago
WOW Un F-ing believable!
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Just yesterday Spadecaller posted a rant about
Unsubstantiated,
Racist,
Character Attacks;
Propeller’s Front Page
600 plus comments most agreed with Spadecaller
The problem is “Unsubstantiated” “rumor” “old biddy gossip” leads to Racist,
Character Attacks and effect an election. Or more to the point
Unsubstantiated TO effect an election.
As I pointed out, “Isn’t that the description of Propellers front page?”
I found the soapbox most “lefties” espoused their agreement with Spadecaller.
Now please re-read “this article”
“urged him to contact John McCain to withdraw his name from vice presidential consideration, according to three sources familiar with the conversation.”
3 un-named un-known sources is no more valid than 1 un-named un-known source.
It’s hearsay, rumor.
“Lieberman dismissed the request, these sources agreed.”
3 un-named un-known sources.
did not call [McCain] on it,” said one source familiar with the details.”
1 un-named un-known source
“recounted a second source. “Lieberman told him he would not make that call.”
1 un-named un-known source
”Rove, President Bush’s former top…. has no formal role in McCain’s campaign… and has been offering informal advice, both over the phone and in his position as a Fox News analyst”
0 named or un-named source
“His decision to wade into the vice presidential selection process could provide Democrats fresh ammunition to tie McCain to the polarizing Bush”.-
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injest10 months, 1 week ago
Notice, no source named and a conclusion based un-named un-known sources, thus completing the “Unsubstantiated” part.
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Now why? To effect an election?
Trying to bolster the unfounded claim that Bush And McCain are the same (Obama talking points)
Ding!
“It is also chafing some Lieberman allies”
Ding!
“Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on,” grumbled one veteran Republican strategist.
Uhm that would be the un-named un-known veteran Republican strategist, yes?
From his perch on Fox, Rove has touted McCain’s fierce primary rival as strong vice presidential material.
Opinion, useless.
The sources spoke about Rove’s involvement after Robert Novak, …the number two slot but that putting an abortion-rights-supporting former Democrat on the Republican ticket was likely to be unrealistic.
The un-named source(s) more than 1, it must be true cuzz I read it on the web!
Robert Novak! First named person! But he doesn’t name any source either.
”The column said Lieberman had made that clear to McCain personally at the behest of a “close friend,” but a Lieberman source called that “totally and absolutely false.”
Ohhh my conflict tween 2 un-named sources!
Yada yada yada blah blah blah.
Unsubstantiated, Racist, Character Attacks
Propeller’s Front Page
As I pointed out, “Isn’t that the description of Propellers front page?”
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Eagle_Eye10 months, 1 week ago
It doesn't matter who McCain chooses, the majority of the American people are so over the GOP and what it has done to their lives that they want a change.
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It's time to clean house!!
Of course that won't happen with an just an election, all the lobbyists and corporate interests have to go to!! There should be no special interests in government, but that will never happen so it will be politics as usual either way. It's just a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils. -
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slate10 months, 1 week ago
There is no politician in government that I agree with 100% of the time. I actually like most of the things Lieberman says but not all.
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Heck I even liked the speech Barack Obama gave tonight for the most part.
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