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Posted By Neophile 1 year, 2 months ago in NewsRepublican strategist Karl Rove called Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman late last week and urged him to contact Sen. John McCain to withdraw his name from vice presidential consideration, according to three sources familiar with the conversation.
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The ONLY thing that Lieberman differs with the Democratic party is the War in Iraq. Even now Obama is sounding more like Bush since he went there. 16 months is talked about as a time when the reduction will be but there is no more talk about out by 16 months. Just like Bush.
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If you think the Democrats should win the election then for sure have Lieberman as McCains VP choice. That would be idiotic. The Republican base would have to gag to vote a Democrat VP. A lot would just stay home. Then Obama would coast to a victory.
Why do you foolish people believe that Rove is behind everything? That is stupid really. Bush and McCain are people that think for themselves. Despite what you super libs rant.-
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Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago
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What has happened to the Democrat Party. It used to be the Party of inclusion. People could have differences and be in the Party. Now it seems that if you fail the litmus test on a variety of issues then you are no longer a Democrat. Lieberman failed only ONE litmus test and now he is out. What a Party. That method will cause shrinkage.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 2 months ago
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This is a silly thing to say Endoscopy, he has been siding with bush because of Israel, that is not good politic bush wouldn't go against Israel if even he wanted to. So siding with him was the wrong thing to do, why? Because bush was wrong on everything! Nothing is wrong with the DEMS you need to ask that question of Lieberman!
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Candida1 year, 2 months ago
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Endoscopy: "If you think the Democrats should win the election then for sure have Lieberman as McCains VP choice. That would be idiotic. The Republican base would have to gag to vote a Democrat VP. A lot would just stay home. ... Why do you foolish people believe that Rove is behind everything?"
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Have you read the article? It says that Rove wanted to convince Lieberman to withdraw his name. He wanted exactly the same thing you want. He too thinks that choosing Lieberman would be idiotic. -
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Actually what has happened is that the zionist "Democratic Leadership Council" made up of israel-firsters has lost its grip on the democratic party. This can only be good for America - we don't need those whose first loyalty is NOT to america running the country for foreigners. This includes Lieberman. It is a sign of McCain's desperation that he is selling himself out to israel-firsters to try to win the presidency.
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Turning the Tables on the Israel-Firsters
... The idea that there are U.S. citizens who have equal loyalties to the United States and Israel is passé. American Israel-firsters have long since dropped any pretense of loyalty to the United States and its genuine national interests. They have moved brazenly into the Israel first, last, and always camp. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Norman Podhoretz, Victor Davis Hanson, the Rev. Franklin Graham, Alan Dershowitz, Rudy Giuliani, Douglas Feith, the Rev. Rod Parsley, Paul Wolfowitz, James Woolsey, Bill Kristol, the Rev. John Hagee, and the thousands of wealthy supporters of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) appear to care about the United States only so far as Washington is willing to provide immense, unending funding and the lives of young U.S. service personnel to protect Israel. These individuals and their all-for-Israel journals – Commentary, National Review, the Weekly Standard, and the Wall Street Journal – amount to nothing less than a fifth column intent on involving 300 million Americans in other peoples' religious wars, making them pay and bleed to protect a nation in which the United States has no genuine national security interest at stake....
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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As for the comment about JFK, this is just another zioncon attempt to rewrite history.
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JFK Was Enraged at 'Zionist Control' Effected by Campaign Contributions
.... 'As an American citizen he was outraged,' Bartlett recalled, 'to have a Zionist group come to him and say: "We know your campaign is in trouble. We're willing to pay your bills if you'll let us have control of your Middle East policy.'" Kennedy, as a presidential candidate, also resented the crudity with which he'd been approached. 'They wanted control,' he angrily told Bartlett....
.... JFK wanted a nuclear-free near east with inspectors at Dimona and a resolution to the Palestinian refugee problem (which would be a policy based on American interests or perhaps even regional or international interests). I don't think his patrons liked those ideas much. they wanted a policy based on Israel's interests. and as they say, when you pay the piper, you call the tune. ...
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alakazam1 year, 2 months ago
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JFK was pretty much fired up over special interest in general.
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The man was paying close attention to the warnings of Eisenhower.
They didn't kill him for toeing the line.
“The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY
Ladies and Gentlemen those are the words of a REAL American.
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spkguy1 year, 2 months ago
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Thanks for nothing Joe Lieberman
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm9WxGSPiCk
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Dottie6541 year, 2 months ago
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LMAO The way my screen was positioned, the side article for this post read Rove Tried to Kill Lieberman!!!!! Friday's announcement is the only thing I intend to listen to from the Rep convention...or pre-convention. McSame has no real quality to choose from that will really help him.
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TimALoftis1 year, 2 months ago
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Republicans should be outraged by this kind of activity from the 'Talking Heads' of the Party. If I was McCain, I would pick Lieberman...it will show the nation that he is willing to stand up against his own party.
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Lieberman is mild mannered but he should have told Rove to shove that phone he was using to make this call up his A**-
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 2 months ago
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Damn, you guys are making me cry.
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I appreciate y'all, too...as alakazam said, "more than you know". You are wonderful friends to this old woman who goes for days without seeing one human being. 'Course I do have my little dog, Cassie, who is 17 years old TODAY!-
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miklkit1 year, 2 months ago
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Rove knows election fraud.
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miklkit1 year, 2 months ago
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You could scroll down to the bottom of that page for more links. But I will save you the trouble.
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm
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wtagg1 year, 2 months ago
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Which McCain happened to be the target of. Irony. Another example of McCain not being the person he was 8 years ago.
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If McCain was the maverick he claims to be, he wouldn't take Rove's calls or even have him at the convention. Now he is pals with the man who suggested he had a black child out of wedlock in SC. -
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ONEMEMPHISDUDE1 year, 2 months ago
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Thank you Carl Rove. The best pick for a McCain veep would be Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas. This is the UNBEATABLE ticket, now that Hussein has picked Sen. Biden.
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This race is McCains to lose or win. Lets see if he plays his cards wisely.
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Well Endo, the GOP should have kicked McCain out long ago for corruption.
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McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five
You're John McCain, a fallen hero who wanted to become president so desperately that you sold yourself to Charlie Keating, the wealthy con man who bears such an incredible resemblance to The Joker.
He poured $112,000 into your political campaigns. He became your friend. He threw fund raisers in your honor. He even made a sweet shopping-center investment deal for your wife, Cindy. Your father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was cut in on the deal, too.
Nothing was too good for you. Why not? Keating saw you as a prime investment that would pay off in the future.
So he flew you and your family around the country in his private jets. Time after time, he put you up for serene, private vacations at his vast, palatial spa in the Bahamas. All of this was so grand. You were protected from what Thomas Hardy refers to as "the madding crowd." It was almost as though you were already staying at a presidential retreat.
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20635.htm-
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mivan41 year, 2 months ago
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Only thing there was no corruption, out of the Keating 5 2 did nothing wrong John Glen and John McCain they only heard Keating out, but refused to do any favors for him! The three that did favors were all DEMOCRATS and they were convicted!
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The $112,000 was previous contributions. The reason one investigator thought he and John Glen exercised poor judgment wasn't the contribution, but was that they went to the meeting.
I somewhat understand that, here you have someone in trouble which helped you get elected part of you wants to at least hear what he has to say maybe you can help in a legitimate way, but you better be prepared for a illegal proposal also..
John McCain had reservations about going, but through urging went anyway. Where John McCain showed Character is that he stood up to Keating and didn't take the wrong path, but that somehow doesn't get mentioned.
HERE is a LINK that the whole story and the TRUTH can be found! Quote from the link:
McCain told Keating that he would attend the meeting and find out whether Keating was getting treated fairly but that was all.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter7.html-
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alakazam1 year, 2 months ago
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" Keating raised money for McCain's two congressional campaigns in 1982 and 1984, and for McCain's 1986 Senate bid. By 1987, McCain campaigns had received $112,000 from Keating, his relatives, and his employees--the most received by any of the Keating Five. (Keating raised a total of $300,000 for the five senators.)
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After McCain's election to the House in 1982, he and his family made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, three of which were to Keating's Bahamas retreat. McCain did not disclose the trips (as he was required to under House rules) until the scandal broke in 1989. At that point, he paid Keating $13,433 for the flights.
And in April 1986, one year before the meeting with the regulators, McCain's wife, Cindy, and her father invested $359,100 in a Keating strip mall"
The facts seem to indicate the direct opposite of innocence. They sound more like direct complicity.
He definitely didn't blow any whistles, and he only bailed out when he saw he had gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar.-
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alakazam1 year, 2 months ago
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Yeah...the word is that the Republicans didn't even want to charge him.
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For CLEAR Lawbreaking!!!!!!
Give it up...Your boy McCain was out partying on money he KNEW was stolen.
The Moral compass of some slug thing in a pond looks higher.
He benefited from the crime. If he was at the meeting he knew they were stealing people blind.
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mivan41 year, 2 months ago
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Now, you say the word is - in other words gossip and innuendo and then say Clear Law breaking which is a outright LIE since he was exonerated of any wrong doing as indicated in the link I provided which references the actual hearing!. You sir are on the losing end of this argument since TRUTH is NOT on your side!
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Actually what the "investigation" showed was that corrupt influence peddling by politicians like McCain was already rife then. McCain was "protected" by other politicians.
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Ask yourself this. McCain has ostensibly lived off of public salaries his entire life - first a military salary and then a political salary. With that income, how did he manage to become worth $40 million?
Do you suppose that it had something to do with corrupt influence peddling? Like maybe making thousands of americans live in nuclear waste dumps in return for payoffs from rich corporate buddies?
Native Americans: Navajo Indians targeted for brutal genocide,
in Arizona, USA ...by Sen. John McCain & a few greedy Senators
SYNOPSIS: To facilitate his special interests, namely: Peabody Western Coal Company (the largest in the US) and the Mohave Generating Facility in Laughlin (operated by Bechtel) delivering low cost electricity to Las Vegas's Casinos, John McCain (a/k/a "Saddam McCain") introduced and arranged for the enforcement of unethical and Constitutionally unlawful legislations which brutally displaced thousands of Navajo farmers onto a Nuclear Waste Dump to live after brutalizing them for two decades in peaceful resistance. McCain assembled (Navajo Resettlement & Navajo Accommodation Agreement, Navajo Settlement, and amendments to PL 93-531, PL S.1003) illegal and unethical enactments designed to force Native American Navajo of the Dineh Band off their Arizona lands, moving them onto Church's Hill in Nevada, depriving them of lands they've owned since 1500 AD.
http://www.cain2008.org/
The UN, EU and numerous public organizations are deeply outraged over the stripping of rights and forced resettlement of these gentle and deeply spiritual band of Dineh-Navajo Indians from Arizona. The UN Human Rights Commission (SR AbdelTelif Amor, Investigating the US Government's abuse of the Navajo), issued a condemnation, they were so disgusted. The European Union issued written criticisms and demanded the Clinton Administration intervene in McCain's lawmaking. Clinton remained silent. The Dineh-Navajo were quite literally swept off of lands they'd owned since 1500 A.D. by legislations authored by Senator McCain on a ruse that challenged their deeds to these lands, and handed the coal beneath them over to the largest unsustainable energy corporation in America. -
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Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago
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This is really a non issue. With Lieberman on the ticket the Conservatives would stay home in droves. McCain would not be that stupid. If you want to know who is going to be the VP pick look at who is traveling to be with McCAin today. The announce will be made together tomorrow.
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lloydm651 year, 2 months ago
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Indoscopy : You missed the point this litmus test is not about ninth month abortions, or post birth abortion that Obama is trying to get into law.No its about the Iraq war,and who do you want win.Lieberman took americas side.Now you can understand the democrats anger.Its the same way John Soros felt when america and the allies brought Germany to her knees.He says he wants see us on our backs,therefore he willing to fund every democrat who agrees with him.
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injest1 year, 2 months ago
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WOW Un F-ing believable!
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Just yesterday Spadecaller posted a rant about
Unsubstantiated,
Racist,
Character Attacks;
Propeller’s Front Page
600 plus comments most agreed with Spadecaller
The problem is “Unsubstantiated” “rumor” “old biddy gossip” leads to Racist,
Character Attacks and effect an election. Or more to the point
Unsubstantiated TO effect an election.
As I pointed out, “Isn’t that the description of Propellers front page?”
I found the soapbox most “lefties” espoused their agreement with Spadecaller.
Now please re-read “this article”
“urged him to contact John McCain to withdraw his name from vice presidential consideration, according to three sources familiar with the conversation.”
3 un-named un-known sources is no more valid than 1 un-named un-known source.
It’s hearsay, rumor.
“Lieberman dismissed the request, these sources agreed.”
3 un-named un-known sources.
did not call [McCain] on it,” said one source familiar with the details.”
1 un-named un-known source
“recounted a second source. “Lieberman told him he would not make that call.”
1 un-named un-known source
”Rove, President Bush’s former top…. has no formal role in McCain’s campaign… and has been offering informal advice, both over the phone and in his position as a Fox News analyst”
0 named or un-named source
“His decision to wade into the vice presidential selection process could provide Democrats fresh ammunition to tie McCain to the polarizing Bush”.-
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injest1 year, 2 months ago
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Notice, no source named and a conclusion based un-named un-known sources, thus completing the “Unsubstantiated” part.
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Now why? To effect an election?
Trying to bolster the unfounded claim that Bush And McCain are the same (Obama talking points)
Ding!
“It is also chafing some Lieberman allies”
Ding!
“Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on,” grumbled one veteran Republican strategist.
Uhm that would be the un-named un-known veteran Republican strategist, yes?
From his perch on Fox, Rove has touted McCain’s fierce primary rival as strong vice presidential material.
Opinion, useless.
The sources spoke about Rove’s involvement after Robert Novak, …the number two slot but that putting an abortion-rights-supporting former Democrat on the Republican ticket was likely to be unrealistic.
The un-named source(s) more than 1, it must be true cuzz I read it on the web!
Robert Novak! First named person! But he doesn’t name any source either.
”The column said Lieberman had made that clear to McCain personally at the behest of a “close friend,” but a Lieberman source called that “totally and absolutely false.”
Ohhh my conflict tween 2 un-named sources!
Yada yada yada blah blah blah.
Unsubstantiated, Racist, Character Attacks
Propeller’s Front Page
As I pointed out, “Isn’t that the description of Propellers front page?”
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 2 months ago
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It doesn't matter who McCain chooses, the majority of the American people are so over the GOP and what it has done to their lives that they want a change.
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It's time to clean house!!
Of course that won't happen with an just an election, all the lobbyists and corporate interests have to go to!! There should be no special interests in government, but that will never happen so it will be politics as usual either way. It's just a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils. -
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