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Posted By not2needy 1 year, 4 months ago in News

With profound gratitude and great humility, I accept your nomination for the presidency of the United States.
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Let me express my thanks to the historic slate of candidates who accompanied me on this journey, and especially the one who traveled the farthest - a champion for working Americans and an inspiration to my daughters and to yours -- Hillary Rodham Clinton. To President Clinton, who last night made the case for change as only he can make it; to Ted Kennedy, who embodies the spirit of service; and to the next Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden, I thank you. I am grateful to finish this journey with one of the finest statesmen of our time, a man at ease with everyone from world leaders to the conductors on the Amtrak train he still takes home every night.

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    not2needy1 year, 4 months ago

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    Very moving, inspiring speech. Motovational and what America needs right now.

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      memestryker1 year, 4 months ago

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      Excellent speech. He successfully reframed "hot" issues very briefly to suggest there is a middle ground that works, in part, for everyone, while not discounting disagreement. And a 95% tax cut on the middle class. It will be interesting to see how the overall plan looks. The speech was almost Clintonian in its attempt to bring people together.

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        cosmogenium1 year, 4 months ago

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        I believe that was a tax cut for 95% of the people, you know, those not making more than $5 million a year.

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          protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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          Let's see, he is going to send more funding to schools, retool the car industry, free health care, and a bunch of other things and somehow lower taxes. Right, I have heard this before. BO just doesn't get it. He has no idea what he is talking about. But it sound good.

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            Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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            Free health care is not the same as affordable health care...that is what Obama said. Get your facts straight. You have no idea what you are talking about. But it sounds good, huh?

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              protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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              I have to agree with you, but what is affordable to some is not affordable to others unless it is free.

              BO promised everything to everybody last night and I know that can't happen.

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                Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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                Let us see what McBush promises and then we can compare the promises.

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                  protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                  I don't think McCain has promised anything in this area which is fine by me. I don't want the Government involved in my health care.

                  Lets see the last time we had someone promise universal health care (Bill Clinton) all we got was a tax increase.

                  You have to keep in mind the Job is President not King, all a President can do is stop a bill from becoming a law. Only your House of Representatives can write a law, why haven't they? I am sure Bush would sign it if it made sense. After Bush signed "No child left behind" which was written by Ted Kennedy.

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      Eagle_Eye1 year, 4 months ago

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      What a wonderful experience it was this evening watching Senator Obama accept the nomination and make history.

      I loved the way he took McCain to task and challenged him to a debate. I will be looking forward to seeing this man take back America for the American people.

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        not2needy1 year, 4 months ago

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        Historic, and touching. If elected, and if he can at least have a Dem Congress long enough to get some things accomplished, maybe, just maybe we can get back on track.

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          protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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          I look forward to the debate since McCain has been challenging him for months.

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            Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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            Well, if you'd have bothered to read his speech or listened to Obama, he welcome the debates now that he's the democratic candidate for president. Why would he have bothered to debate McBush during the primaries?

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              Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 4 months ago

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              Why on earth would Obama bring 80,000 people to one of McCain's lame events that only 20 people show up at otherwise?. Again an example of good Judgment. It's time for America to elect an intelligent president, one who cares more about America, it's people, and spirit than simply keeping a party in power for the sake of a few oligarchs.
              "ENOUGH!!!!"
              "We are better than this"

              Amen brother!

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              PatrioticAmerican1 year, 4 months ago

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              McCain challenged him first and he refused cause he knows he will lose the only way he will debate McCain is if he gets to set the rules, and plant the questions

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                CRYMTYPHON1 year, 4 months ago

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                Well, that is a very dim view of Mr. Obama and his abilities.
                No Problem. Obama isgoing to debate; he won't set the rules, and planting questions town-hall style or listening to them from the 'cardboard box of silence' will not be allowed.

                                                                                 

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                            Nonsense, merely patroticamerican!             And Well said, Crymtyphon! RIght as always!

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              cosmogenium1 year, 4 months ago

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              Thanks for this link, N2N. I was just looking for a link to the text. I was at a MoveOn.org party for the speech. What a great one! And with substance as well as feeling! Way to go!

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                not2needy1 year, 4 months ago

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                I thought so too cosmo. Thank you!

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                MajJohn1 year, 4 months ago

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                Tonight was truly historic, the culmination of a movement that was tragically short circuited 45 years ago. It was an excellent speech, well delivered. Not a lot of substance but I kind of expected that. This allows for flexibility in the weeks ahead leading up to whatever debates there will be and finally the election. The message was one of conciliation. I did not find it comparable to Kennedy however. Kennedy challenged us to work for a better future, the challenge was missing tonight. But still, you have to hand it to Obama, his star shined the brightest tonight

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                  Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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                  I guess you and I didn't hear the same speech or have a different perspective.
                  I was not going to vote for McCain and would have voted any democrat as president. But after his speech, I'm voting FOR Obama because he convinced me he's the man for the job.

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                    miklkit1 year, 4 months ago

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                    Not a lot of substance? He went from topic to topic saying what he planned to do. It sounded like a straight speech to me.

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                      protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                      The problem is the job is President, not King. BO has a lot to learn about how our Government works. In the end all the President can do is stop a bill.

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                        miklkit1 year, 4 months ago

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                        You don't work you way up to Harvard by being a slow learner. Barry has proven himself to be a fast learner. His opponent on the other hand has proven himself to be a fast forgetter.

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                          protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                          Like getting a Law degree is hard, if he was an Engineer, someone who actually has to think his way through a problem, I would have respect for him.

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                            miklkit1 year, 4 months ago

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                            It seems to be awfully hard at tier 4 Regents University. As opposed to tier 1 Harvard.

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                          cleare1 year, 4 months ago

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                          you need to tell the bush administration that the job "is President, not King", because i think he's more than a bit confused on that point.

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                            protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                            What Law has Bush enacted that was not written by Congress? Give me specifics.

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                              diogenes21st1 year, 4 months ago

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                              He has used without restraint signing statements to gut the provisions of bills that are passed and signed that he disagrees with - and with a percentage of legal/constitutional challenges in his statements nearly than twice any previous president in history (70% to his dad's previous high of 47%. Reagan - 34%; Clinton 18%). The American Bar Association two years ago described signing statements to modify the meaning of duly enacted laws as "contrary to the rule of law and our constitutional system of separation of powers". Bush has used this to challenge more than 1,000 provisions of legally passed and signed laws, in effect nullifying the voice of the legislative branch of the government, the so-called people's branch. It's not a king or a dictator, but it's not will-of-the-people leadership either. We have deficit spending and torture - just to cite two examples of unilateral power - at the whim of one man due to this practice, so it's hard to argue it's in the best interests of a healthy democracy. Republicans in Congress - with Arlen Spector a noted exception- have happily let it go on. And before you blame Democrats for not putting an end to it in the past year, Republican Senate philibustering took care of that. But still, the Democrats should do more to stand up to this, such as calling for abuse of power hearings. Another tidbit - Alito, now of the Supremes, was the guy who first tortured a reading of law to justify Reagan's enormous use of such tactics, and every president since has walked through that opening. Ultimately it's a separation of powers issue that threatens to gut representative government unless reigned in.

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                            Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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                            Oh, like King George?

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                            Blackacereturn1 year, 4 months ago

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                            There is a common team here parroting FOX i turned to FOX after the speech and these were the same points made there...these people don't think for themselves and the more i watch FOX the more i am assured that they are nothing more than lemmings! If you watched the speach you couldn't miss the substance!

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                              protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                              Talk about lemmings, there were 84,000 of them in that stadium last night.

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                              Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 4 months ago

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                              Not a lot of substance??
                              29 specific policy wonks!
                              19 specific criticisms of GOP policy.
                              You must have listed with ear muffs on.

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                                buckncindykill1 year, 4 months ago

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                                Here's one part of the Obama speech that was particularly clever and has plenty of substance. Obama plans to raise taxes on the very people, small businessmen and women, who are providing about 80% of the new jobs our economy is producing. Obama's response last night was to say that "I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and start-ups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow."

                                Here, again, is where the ignorance of the American voter comes into play.

                                Pay attention real close. Obama said he was going to eliminate capital gains taxes. These small businessmen generally don't pay capital gains taxes. They pay income taxes. Obama's plan is to raise the income taxes on these entrepreneurs. Telling the American people that he will cut their capital gains taxes is simply a charade; a charade the uneducated will buy.

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                              bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago

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                              MajJohn, you must have taken a long bathroom break during the speech if you missed the substance and the challenge. I heard them.

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                              bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago

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                              The audience count was 84,000.

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                                Spadecaller1 year, 4 months ago

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                                Last night did more than introduce the chosen candidate to the nation. We heard a great speech, at a crucial moment in history, and we witnessed the prospect of a great leader coming to the aid of a failing empire. Of course, there will be those who deny this and will do everything and anything to oppose his election as the next president, but last night a valuable message with a vital road map to help this nation recover from the consequences of 8 years of failed policies was sent out to the world. I believe the majority of Americans will heed the call and come to support the man with the odd name and dark skin.

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                                  not2needy1 year, 4 months ago

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                                  Why do so many people have a problem understanding such a simple concept SC? I know that the majority of the conservatives on Propeller aren't in the top 2 or 3 percent of the ultra wealthy in America. Why do they want to give tax breaks to big corporations, hoping that eventually some of it will trickle down on them. Why do they want to continue to live under the trickle down economic policy? It's amazing to me that they support anyone who's plan is to take care of the ultra wealthy and wipe out the middle class.

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                                    Spadecaller1 year, 4 months ago

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                                    Despite the fact that it is not in their best interests to support McCain, these fanatical conservatives on Propeller are driven by a number of different factors; the first is their hatred for liberals; for some it is their hatred of blacks, some of them hate Jews, some of them believe that America is a Christian nation, some would not vote for anyone who would allow a woman the right of choice, and for some, it is all these factors.

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                                      diogenes21st1 year, 4 months ago

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                                      Right. Absolutely right. And the level of (possibly willful?) ignorance or misreading of history, law, science, media, religion, economics, education, philosophy, political science, sociology, natural history, et al that is necessary for them to continue the illusion is staggering. Let's debate with ideas and their results, not hot-headed opinions and fantasies. Let's work with skill and facts, not seat-of-the-pants judgments and grudges. In other words, let's get smart, America. How did being smart and informed and curious get turned into something to be feared and reviled? It was done at the whim of a political faction that cannot afford the harsh light of truth, logic and knowledge. What a shameful show of disrespect to the legacy and history of this great nation.

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                                  nikkibabe1 year, 4 months ago

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                                  Today, Russian leader, Putin has charged that they have evidence that Bush instigated Georgia to create the conflict with Russia to help McCain display his foreign policy!.

                                  So, along with this here is McCain's platform for Americans to vote for him.

                                  . Cooked up conflict with destruction & deaths in Georgia to shore up his Foreign policy.
                                  . His Economic Plan - America is a nation of whiners and everything is fine with the economy
                                  . There are no uninsured Americans when it comes to health care. Just go to ER.
                                  . Attack Iran, Cuba & Venezuela to end anti American activities.
                                  . Reignite the cold war and turn former Soviet Republics against Russia.

                                  Pretty impressive.

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                                    cloud151 year, 4 months ago

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                                    "Today, Russian leader, Putin has charged that they have evidence that Bush instigated Georgia to create the conflict with Russia to help McCain display his foreign policy!."

                                    So you're getting your facts from Putin now huh? That's........smart.

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                                      miklkit1 year, 4 months ago

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                                      The Russian government sources are at least as believable as the American government sources. We know they both lie, so we look for verification.

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                                    Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago

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                                    Anyone else catch what Buchanan is saying about this speech? He considers it one of the best speeches of his lifetime. He also said that it wasn't a liberal speech, or a conservative speech, but a unifying speech. I'm watching the YouTube version right now, thanks for the story N2N! So far the speech is amazing! I particularly like how he's taken the knife and jabbed McCain with it a few times- I had serious worries that Obama wasn't willing to hit McCain on anything, I was incorrect. So far he hasn't been overly harsh, which is equally good.

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                                    Spadecaller1 year, 4 months ago

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                                    Does this sound familiar? Are we not facing what MLK said we would someday have to?

                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs5k32uTI2I

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                                      simonsez1 year, 4 months ago

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                                      The theme seemed to be "ask not what you can do for your country; ask what your country can do for you".

                                      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/29/opinion/29brooks.html?_r=1=th=slogin

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                                        scott42611 year, 4 months ago

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                                        This is an historical speech and one of the greatest and most most inspiring speeches I've heard. It really is too bad that most conservatives are too self-absorbed to understand the inspiration this ticket represents. Obama will be the next president!

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                                          Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago

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                                          Scott, I've not noticed you posting at all!

                                          Welcome back!

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                                            scott42611 year, 4 months ago

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                                            Thanks. I've been off-line for a while... A new relationship has blossomed and now I've re-located to Fayetteville, AR.

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                                              Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago

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                                              Congratulations!

                                              Is Fayetteville as liberal as your past community?

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                                                scott42611 year, 4 months ago

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                                                Not really. But it's a college town. I'm probably going to finally get my Master's degree.

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                                                  Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                  Grats, I'm on the path to that myself. College towns are great, I can't walk three feet in any direction without running into one here.

                                                  What will your degree be in?

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                                                    scott42611 year, 4 months ago

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                                                    Either American History or PoliSci...

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                                                      Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                      Heh, very nice. I'm working on a history master's currently (possibly PhD in the future) and minors in Secondary Education and PoliSci.

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                                              bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago

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                                              I missed you, too, Scott. (((scott4261)))

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                                              protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                                              It was the same speech Bill Clinton gave 16 years ago. It was 100% BS.

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                                                Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                And the economy was great then and our relations with most of the world was much better. But c'mon same speech? When the circumstance in our country is so, so much worse now.

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                                            simonsez1 year, 4 months ago

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                                            You want to increase revenues ... tax all the non-profit exempted businesses such as churches, charities and universities, undoubtedly the most profitable businesses in the country.

                                            Want to stop killings in the cities ... legalize drugs. Control them, regulate them, tax them. Make them affordable to users, eliminate the profit motive and killings would drop by 90% overnight. Use part of the profits to treat users and assist with general medical costs of clinics.

                                            Nobody has the cajones to do what will help the most. Instead, lets condemn those who excell in our society, that already pay most of the bills for government, but what the hell, they were just lucky anyway.

                                            Community service for high schoolers to get "affordable" college tuition help. Sounds good, doesn't it?

                                            So lets put an army of kids out there, eliminating menial jobs that other Americans need. Most businesses don't want un-trained kids around their businesses, so they end up sorting clothes at the salvation army or good will centers. Good Will, by the way. is an extremely profitable non-business. Management does very well.

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                                              miklkit1 year, 4 months ago

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                                              I see. You are an anarchist! Law of the jungle. No thanks. I have a conscience.

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                                                cleare1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                you are assuming that people who "excel in our society" got there through hard work, but in my experience that is not true. my considered observation is that most of the people at the top got there through family connections, graft, cheating, lying and luck.

                                                i strongly disagree with your first paragraph; agree completely with your second paragraph; dispute your third; have considered and rejected the fourth and can't make sense out of your final comment.

                                                taxing non-profits...a new idea, but a bad one and i think you are overstating their "profits".

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                                                  Eagle_Eye1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                  non-profits have no profits to tax........I wish my non profit made a profit then perhaps I could get a pay check.

                                                  How about taxing all the big drug, oil, etc. record profits along with corporate CEO's bonus'

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                                                    cleare1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                    thank you, eagle!

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                                                      Eagle_Eye1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                      my pleasure cleare!

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                                                Codi69341 year, 4 months ago

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                                                He talked about govt bailing out people that made bad choices, but the next breath was about personal responsibilty. Which is it? We can not allow the govt. to have a toe hold in every tiny bite in our lives. When do you become responsible to anwser for your actions. According to him, the govt. will bail you out no matter what.
                                                He wants to leave Iraq "responibilty "which is different then what he has said before. I don't want to make this an argument on why we went, we are beyond that now. We need to win and come home, not just leave. Hasn't the last 30 years taught us anything! What I see happening is "IF" he is elected, Iraq has been improving for months now. He will draw down and take credit for success that he did not agree with nor never supported.
                                                We don't have the technology to get off oil in 10 years. We will aways need oil, more then gas is made from oil. We need about a 30 year source of oil to buy us time so make this change.
                                                We said he will defend this country. Which I believe he will, AFTER the attack. But, you are too late AFTER the attack. You is he going to do to stop the attack before it happens?? THAT HAS BEEN MY BIGGEST QUESTION THE WHOLE TIME!!
                                                Taxes will go up, defense budget will be cut, unemployment will increase, small businesses will go out of business. O hail the BIG "O". You think it is bad now. You wait, the dark days are coming soon if he is elected.

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                                                Poulenc1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                Yes, yes!

                                                Brilliant speech, Senator Obama. Don’t loose the fire and want.

                                                The line between the old and new has been decisively drawn--between the belief that most Americans are doing just fine and the reality that they are, in fact, hurting.

                                                Hurting bad.

                                                Also splendid: O. challenging McCain's nonsensical charge that because he, O., opposed the was in Iraq, he'll leave America defenseless.

                                                Best of all, perhaps, the transmitted sense of the possibility of a new brand of politics.

                                                To me, the choice for president seems crystal clear. And it AIN'T McCain.

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                                                  skyking2p1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                  Sara Phalan governor of Alaska 18 months wow sounds like a real hot pic for vp. Thanks John oh she was the mayor of a small town too. Very impressive

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                                                    4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                    Yes and in those 18 months she "cleaned house" of all the corruption in Alaska's state government and I hope she does the same thing in Washington if she's lucky enough to get elected.
                                                    What has you're candidate done in the last 18 months to rid Washington or even his own state of corruption? Knowing how corrupt the Chicago political machine is, he wouldn't have to look very far for qualified candidates.

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                                                      vor1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                      Remember what Obama said last night about denigrating the opposition!

                                                      One thing good I can say about Sara is that she is not **** Cheney!

                                                      If only we can export that man to Dubai where he can once again run Haliburton (that patriotic company now headquartered overseas). Then have a Democratic Congress and President who would terminate all of their no bid contracts!

                                                      Funny that the experience question must now come back to haunt the Republicans. McCain is not far from the grave and they now want America to support a VP candidate with little national experience. Just like who else? They continue their hypocritical ways.

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                                                        Codi69341 year, 4 months ago

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                                                        She has more jobs in leadership positions then the Big "O"!! His ticket is upside down. At least Biden is a 6 term senator. Blows his whole idea of change.

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                                                        Spadecaller1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                        The time has come to restore our constitution, to dismantle the power of K street, and to empower middle class Americans with the opportunity for better jobs, education, and freedom from government exploitation. Only one candidate offers that hope. Only one candidate had created legislation against the lobby corruption. Only one candidate is willing to stand up against the oil companies. We all know who that candidate is.

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                                                          4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                          So I guess if the government gives you a free education in return for community service (God knows what that would entail) or service to your country (can anyone say draft) they are not "exploiting" the people?

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                                                            Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                            Once again you emit your own concepts and not what Obama said. What school did you repubs graduate from? Oh, could it be from one of those evangelical right-wing universities that many were hired for positions in the Bush administration? That could explain their incompetence and disregard for our Constitution.

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                                                              4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                              For one, I am not a republican.

                                                              And you show your true lack of intelligence by such a crass response.

                                                              Here you go so you can see for yourself his own words...

                                                              "And we will keep our promise to every young American - if you commit to serving your community or your country, we will make sure you can afford a college education."

                                                              Now wipe the egg from your face. :-)

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                                                                Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                Where did I say, in the comment you're replying too, that you were a Republican? But you might as well join them, you spout their party line every opportunity you get.

                                                                And you are against a common sacrifice as community service of our young Americans for our nation? Did you serve your country in any capacity? If you did why not others?

                                                                And nowhere in his speech did he say he was going to implement the draft...purely YOUR words, not his.

                                                                And he said affordable education which means you have to pay for it and is not free. It means he'll make it easier, not free.

                                                                Take time to try to grasp the concept of comprehension of what you read and not interpete it to suit your agenda.

                                                                As for the egg, maybe you should take a bath because it exploded all over you.

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                                                                  4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                  Wow. You just keep digging a bigger hole.

                                                                  Your words....

                                                                  "Once again you emit your own concepts and not what Obama said. What school did you repubs graduate from?"

                                                                  And once again my response was based on the comment about "government exploitation". So whether or not's it's free or affordable you still will be "required" to do service.

                                                                  It's not VOLUNTARY! GET IT?

                                                                  Geesh.

                                                                  Must be hard to reply the these posts with egg on your face and your foot in your mouth.

                                                                  Have a nice day. :-)

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                                                                    fsev411 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                    Just where did he say anybody had to take advantage of the tax break for community service trade. Its purely voluntary. Anyone will be free to do it all on their own if they want and not take the tax break.

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                                                                      4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                      His own words from the speech.....

                                                                      "And we will keep our promise to every young American - if you commit to serving your community or your country, we will make sure you can afford a college education."

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                                                                protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                You should know the kind of people who come out of Harvard. Lawyers, can you get any lower.

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                                                              protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                              It has to be ... Ron Paul

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                                                              jesh1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                              It was a beautiful speech, a real feel good about were we are going inspirational speech. but now lets come back to reality shall we, how can you say you can do all these programs , cut taxes , create jobs , to get our economy back on track , and we wont have to sacrifice anything ??? it will all be paid for by these evil ultra rich and big business ? How many of these ultra rich people do you think we have anyway, it is a pipe dream , when you hurt businesses they pass the cost down to the consumer and cut jobs or move them to other countries [ buy the way NAFTA was Clintons idea ]. So we should take the money from businesses that are creating jobs and investing so we can give it to the government. We all know how well they handle things from their past. That’s the answer to help our economy? I would love it if it were true and I didn’t have to pay for it ,but I have heard that before and we all end up paying and don’t get any real change , now give me a real plan that will work

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                                                                cleare1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                clinton is guilty of signing nafta, but it was in the queue long before he got into office.

                                                                and obama did call for sacrifice from the american people in order to put his proposed programs into place, unlike bush who told us to go out and shop.

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                                                                  Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                  Sacrifice is a dirty word for Republicans. They'd rather others do the sacrificing while they reap the benefits. These Repubs sure talk big about patriotism and love of country but ask them to sacrifice and they scream bloody murder. Their patriotism and love of country only extends to how much money they can rake in at everyone else's expense.

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                                                                    Eagle_Eye1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                    "bush who told us to go out and shop", spot on but don't forget he had to give us rebate checks to go shop with. But even that backfired because most of it was used to pay off debt, not go out on a shopping spree.

                                                                    BTW, where did the money come from for the rebate checks??

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                                                                      cleare1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                      i think it came from china.

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                                                                        fsev411 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                        Could that possibly be our good friend communist China?

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                                                                          Eagle_Eye1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                          So he put us into more debt to China??

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                                                                          protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                          Who do you think wrote the Bill and voted on it so it could make it to the Presidents desk. Try your lame congress.

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                                                                          protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                          He could have stopped it. That is the only real power a president has.

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                                                                          bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                          I clearly heard him say that he would go through the budget line by line, eliminating all the programs which are no longer needed (and there are many, many of those) or which have outlived their purpose (there's many of those, too). That sounds like a pretty good start to me.

                                                                          Did anyone else see the movie, "Dave"?

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                                                                            protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                            Since when has the president has a line item veto power? Just another pipe dream.

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                                                                              protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                              Only congress can give it to him and they aren't going to give up that power.

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                                                                                bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                This has nothing to do with line item veto.

                                                                                It is the president's job to assemble the budget and then present it to Congress for approval. That's the way it works in all governments -- city, county, school board, etc.

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                                                                          cleare1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                          i agree with a commentator i saw on cnn last night who said the speech was more a "symphony" than a speech. i thought obama's voice was beautifully modulated. sometimes loud and assertive and sometimes soft and personal. and the content finally won over my mom, who'd been a rabid hillary supporter. i consider that a major victory.

                                                                          great speech, great candidate...now let's get him into office.

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                                                                            TimALoftis1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                            Flipping the channels last evening looking for various commentary about the speech, it was hard to find anyone critical of it. Even Pat Buchanan of MSNBC was gushing over it.

                                                                            I was a little surprised at the level Obama went after McCain but democrats and many media pundits for some time have said that the Obama campaign was not hitting back hard enough against the negative charges McCain started running and using some 6 weeks ago.

                                                                            Gergen is correct...Obama looked mature, stronger and much tougher than earlier in this campaign.

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                                                                              4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                              I believe it was a good speech but the problem I have is that it's just a speech. Give me some hard core samples other than community service or co-sponsoring a bill that this guy has accomplished since he was elected Senator.
                                                                              Promises are simply that, promises. They are not guarantees. There needs to be more substance to his promises such as how in God's name is he going to pay for all these promises. If you tax the oil companies they are simply going to pass this along to the consumers. Jimmy Carter can explain this to you in detail.
                                                                              OK, let's not give them tax breaks but I'm not so dumb as to think all their exploration is cheap and when was the last time anyone looked at the amount (in numbers) of how may oil platforms that we already have in the Gulf of Mexico. These are not cheap to build.
                                                                              Anyway, we will never be free from fossil fuels in 10 years. Period. Not gonna happen. My proof, try to engage in defending this country with military equipment that is solar or battery powered!
                                                                              I agree with him that Bush should share in the responsibility for some of the mistakes made in the war in Iraq but to blame him for high gas prices and the housing mess is just way over board. So unless he plans on controlling all the banks and investors in this country or planning on controlling OPEC there is absolutely nothing he will be able to do on that front.
                                                                              And as far as the deficit, I'll say it again for those who still don't understand it's CONGRESS that controls the purse strings of this country and last I checked the Democrats are the ones in control of the most poorly favored congress in history.
                                                                              I still haven't decided who I will vote for but I can tell you this for sure, he had better start giving a little more details on how he plans to deliver us if he even has a chance of me voting for change.

                                                                              In God We Trust

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                                                                                willottica1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                "My proof, try to engage in defending this country with military equipment that is solar or battery powered!"

                                                                                Now, when you say "defending this country" do you mean provoking war with Russia? Do you mean starting wars in the Middle East? Because you should realize that that kind of aggression does nothing to "defend" the country.

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                                                                                  4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                  No, I mean when people like our beloved friend Mr. Gore seem to think we can just walk away from fossil fuels within just a couple of decades, please!

                                                                                  Are you willing to pay the price to retool the whole American military with battery powered tanks, humvees, planes, ships, ect?

                                                                                  I can see it now, we have to go defend some poor defenseless country and we'll say "give us a few days we will need to charge up our tanks"!

                                                                                  Or are you just so anti-military that you one of those who are naive enough to think we don't need one?

                                                                                  Instead of replying to this post in such an overly exaggerated way, why not simply give a meaningful response on how you would suggest we handle this problem.

                                                                                  I was speaking about defense and made no reference what so ever to any type of agression. Period.

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                                                                                    willottica1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                    "I can see it now, we have to go defend some poor defenseless country"

                                                                                    That was the exact point I was trying to make. The "Department of Defense" is not involved with defending the USA, and that should be its ONLY job. As sad as it may be for you or me or the bleeding heart down the street, the US government does not have power granted to it by the constitution of the US to "defend some poor defenseless country." The only power it has is to defend itself. I admit, this wasn't your main point, your main point was about converting military vehicles from fossil fuels to something else.

                                                                                    How long has the HumVee been around? Are the HumVees in the field more than 10 years old? Obama did not say he would eliminate the need for fossil fuels in 10 years, rather the need for FOREIGN fossil fuels. If a significant amount of alternative energy is used in the US, and the US military is restricted to only those activities constitutionally allowed, then I think this is a very reasonable goal.

                                                                                    I also don't think he'd be stupid enough (and he's unlikely to be president) to just cut off all foreign oil if for some reason those goals aren't met. They're goals, they're something to strive for.

                                                                                    How should the problem be handled? Start. It's gotta be done sometime. As battery technology increases, as solar collection becomes more efficient, possibly as hydrogen fuel cells (still outrageously expensive) become viable, possibilities that we haven't even thought of will become plausible.

                                                                                    If you just say it can't be done, then there's no point in starting, is there? Might as well just carry on as you are. Drive the SUV 6 blocks to work every day and crank the heat in the winter and the A/C in the summer so you can dress the same year round. And when the oil dries up, or becomes so exorbitantly expensive that no-one can afford it. THEN it'll be time to change, because there'll be no choice. (Not to mention chaos and societal breakdown). (Hmm... maybe I failed a little on not replying in an overly exaggerated way, but since I didn't see any exaggeration in the original post, I thought it was called for here :-)

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                                                                                      4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                      Very good response and I appreciate your courtesy and intellect.
                                                                                      I agree with a lot of what you stated.
                                                                                      I was really trying to emphasize on his remark of making us free from dependance on foreign oil in 10 years and refusal to even contemplate drilling here at home.
                                                                                      According to his own words we import 70% of our oil. Even if that's a conservative figure I just can't see any way that we are going to be able to replace even 1/2 that much in ten years.
                                                                                      With truck lines, heavy equipment operators, ships, planes, boats ect. there are some things that are just not going to be efficient enough to run on solar, wind or electric.
                                                                                      Thank you again for the enlightening response.

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                                                                                  Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                  You folks were harping about specifics and lambasting Obama for being too naive but when he gave you specifics, it's not good enough. Nothing will satisfy you and you'll be endlessly calling for more and more. Let's see how specific McBush is with his speech and then let's compare.

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                                                                                    protoham1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                    Well said 4C.

                                                                                    Ron Paul is the only one I have seen that has a proven voting record, but I don't think he stands a snowballs chance in Heck of be elected.

                                                                                    So we are left voting for the lesser of two evils. One guy who has a voting record and one who doesn't.

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                                                                                    vor1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                    A brilliant speech. No other word comes to mind. The sad part is that the people who most needed to hear the message spoken, likely turned away in horror. Frightened to death of such an intelligent man from such a diverse background. So non-divisive, such a wonderful example of what America (and the world) is capable of producing. And for those who have never read his platform his key points were well laid out. I don't expect his words to change the truly hard headed but i do wish they would listen with an open mind. But of course their closed mindedness is why they vote the way they do. No more trickle down, there is only hope when it comes from the bottom up. The fact that this will likely be a close election shows that ignorance is not only alive and well but thriving still in America. I don't want a President who I would be comfortable drinking a beer with. I can do that anytime with my buddies down at the local bar. I want a thinker, a person of intelligence, someone capable of exacting the change America is so desperately in need of, I don't want 10% of that! I want Barack Obama to be my President.

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                                                                                      Charlson1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                      You've said evrything I'd wished I said, well done.

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                                                                                        willottica1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                        The only thing I'd add is that I'd be very UNcomfortable drinking a beer with John McCain. I would constantly be worried about him starting a fight with someone in the bar (I wonder if he's got a wee bit of a Napoleon complex, hmmm?) or encouraging my wife to join the wet t-shirt contest.

                                                                                        Now Barack, I could drink a beer with.

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                                                                                        Spadecaller1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                        "The change we need doesn't come from Washington. Change comes to Washington. Change happens because the American people demand it—because they rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership, a new politics for a new time. America, this is one of those moments."

                                                                                        —Barack Obama in last night's acceptance speech

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                                                                                          RCHIII1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                          I switched over to FOX as soon as the speech ended. I had to hear what they were saying. To my surprise William Kristol thought it was wonderful. He had nothing negative to say. I was amazed. Then they went to the others on the panel and they started ripping off the usual republican talking points that absolutely had nothing to do with the speech I had just heard. It was pretty pathetic so I changed the station before it was too late. I barfed in my mouth a little, but not too bad.

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                                                                                            RCHIII1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                            The truth is anyone who saw that speech witnessed history unfold. Anyone who says it's just the same old stuff clearly didn't want to listen. They didn't want to understand. They would never vote for any democrat anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

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                                                                                              4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                              So I take it you're ok with Involuntary service to this country in trade for help with your education?

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                                                                                                fsev411 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                                If you don't want help you don't have to volunteer. If you want help you volunteer. Pretty simple. OBama is not willing to give it away for nothing. I thought the repubs didn't like free handouts.

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                                                                                                  4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                                  Wow, I wish people on here could just understand that because I don't agree with a Democrat point of view that automatically makes me a republican.

                                                                                                  "If you don't want help you don't have to volunteer. If you want help you volunteer."

                                                                                                  So I can get help with my education and I can just say no thanks to the community service and service to my country?

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                                                                                            cleare1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                            it just occurred to me why mcsame chose what's her name...oil. i bet she's promised to open anwar to drilling!

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                                                                                              fsev411 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                              She probably agreed to compete with Cindy in a wet t-shirt contest in the rose garden.

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                                                                                              sumptuousdigs1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                              Just think...If Obama's first name was Ali...wonder how many "good ol' boys" out there would give him their vote, thinkin' their votin' ...Hee hee hee... fer someone called Alabama!

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                                                                                                krystaleahs1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                                RCHlll~ It's funny you say you switched over to Fox. I as well switched over to MSNBC at times during the DNC only to hear the commentators verbally attacking each other and dissing their own party. WoW!! That's Classy!!

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                                                                                                  Mutainia1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                                  I found Obama's speech to be very flattering. But, will it be enough to obtain the Kingdom, I mean, Presidency? He has risen well out of the sea...of people. But will the announcement of a woman VP sink him? Will it send him back down into a bottom-less pit...of despair?

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                                                                                                    injest1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                                    Obama
                                                                                                    "We are the party of Roosevelt. We are the party of Kennedy. So don't tell me that Democrats won't defend this country," Obama said. "I will never hesitate to defend this nation."

                                                                                                    Hum that’s all enemies both foreign and domestic? Yes

                                                                                                    So should we expect Obama to go after his mentors Ayers and Dohrn

                                                                                                    For the murder of Brian V. McDonnell, a police sergeant, February 16, 1970?

                                                                                                    For Robert Fogarty, another police officer, maimed and left disabled for the rest of his life.

                                                                                                    For WUO members Diana Oughton, Ted Gold, and Terry Robbins died in the explosion.

                                                                                                    (the bomb they were making to kill people at the Fort Dix NCO club went boom on them. Bummer, but that doesn’t absolve Ayers and Dohrn for their part.

                                                                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organizat...

                                                                                                    "The first African-American nominated to be President"..
                                                                                                    "in ALMOST ANY MAJOR COUNTRY"
                                                                                                    MSNBC Matthews/Obermann

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                                                                                                      injest1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                                      Obama
                                                                                                      "We are the party of Roosevelt. We are the party of Kennedy. So don't tell me that Democrats won't defend this country," Obama said. "I will never hesitate to defend this nation."

                                                                                                      Hum that’s all enemies both foreign and domestic? Yes

                                                                                                      So should we expect Obama to go after his mentors Ayers and Dohrn
                                                                                                      For the murder of Brian V. McDonnell, a police sergeant, February 16, 1970?

                                                                                                      For Robert Fogarty, another police officer, maimed and left disabled for the rest of his life.

                                                                                                      For WUO members Diana Oughton, Ted Gold, and Terry Robbins died in the explosion.
                                                                                                      (the bomb they were making to kill people at the Fort Dix NCO club went boom on them. Bummer, but that doesn’t absolve Ayers and Dohrn for their part.

                                                                                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organizat...

                                                                                                      "The first African-American nominated to be President"..
                                                                                                      "in ALMOST ANY MAJOR COUNTRY"
                                                                                                      MSNBC Matthews/Obermann

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                                                                                                        injest1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                                                                        Obama
                                                                                                        "We are the party of Roosevelt. We are the party of Kennedy. So don't tell me that Democrats won't defend this country," Obama said. "I will never hesitate to defend this nation."

                                                                                                        Hum that’s all enemies both foreign and domestic? Yes

                                                                                                        So should we expect Obama to go after his mentors Ayers and Dohrn
                                                                                                        For the murder of Brian V. McDonnell, a police sergeant, February 16, 1970?

                                                                                                        For Robert Fogarty, another police officer, maimed and left disabled for the rest of his life.

                                                                                                        For WUO members Diana Oughton, Ted Gold, and Terry Robbins died in the explosion.
                                                                                                        (the bomb they were making to kill people at the Fort Dix NCO club went boom on them. Bummer, but that doesn’t absolve Ayers and Dohrn for their part.

                                                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organizat...

                                                                                                        "The first African-American nominated to be President"..
                                                                                                        "in ALMOST ANY MAJOR COUNTRY"
                                                                                                        MSNBC Matthews/Obermann

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