Rules Must Bend to Allow McCain, Obama on Texas Ballot with Barr »

Posted By Mdiar 1 year, 2 months ago in News

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Atlanta, GA - Though Texas election law sets an Aug. 26 deadline for political parties to file their candidates for president and vice-president, John McCain and Barack Obama must work around the law to get on the ballot alongside Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Barr.

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    Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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    I was on another website and I saw a commenter mention this story... so I did a quick Google. My, oh my, now this is an interesting development! Of course, they'll get on the ballot, but its still insane that neither party noticed this little detail when they scheduled their conventions! Particularly the Republicans, who MUST have Texas! If I were Obama, and if I were interested in playing some hard-ball, I'd definitely be taking a look at this right now... along with including various third parties in the debates.

    The main substance of this story is that Texas state law requires that you must be on the ballot by 70 days before the election, which is on November 4th. That deadline was two days ago and only Bob Barr is on the ballot. This is an odd development, indeed.

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    Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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    FTA:

    A spokesperson for the Texas Secretary of State's Office claims that both parties "filed something" on time, despite the fact that neither party had nominated a candidate by the deadline as required by Texas law.

    "We agree that unreasonably early deadlines are absurd," says Verney. "We've run into them in states like Oklahoma, West Virginia and Maine during our fight for ballot access across the nation. But if third parties are required to adhere to the law, then we expect the same for the candidates of any other party. Maybe this will show Republicans and Democrats what it is like to be on the wrong side of ballot access laws."

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    Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago

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    Well, everyone should follow the rules.

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    Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 2 months ago

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    I want Barr in the debates. He has really become a true libertarian and has much to contribute to the national debate. Barr is perhaps an honest to goodness actual conservative, something I barely have a recollection of. Can you imagine if it was Barr who needed "help" to get on the ballot? Yes this is an interesting story. Nice find Mdiar.

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    Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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    For anyone who may doubt:

    http://law.onecle.com/texas/election/192.031.00.html

    192.031. PARTY CANDIDATE'S ENTITLEMENT TO PLACE ON BALLOT. A political party is entitled to have the names of its nominees for president and vice-president of the United States placed on the ballot in a presidential general election if: (1) the nominees possess the qualifications for those offices prescribed by federal law; (2) before 5 p.m. of the 70th day before presidential election day, the party's state chair signs and delivers to the secretary of state a written certification of: (A) the names of the party's nominees for president and vice-president; and (B) the names and residence addresses of presidential elector candidates nominated by the party, in a number equal to the number of presidential electors that federal law allocates to this state; and (3) the party is: (A) required or authorized by Subchapter A of Chapter 172 to make its nominations by primary election; or (B) entitled to have the names of its nominees placed on the general election ballot under Chapter 181. Acts 1985, 69th Leg., ch. 211, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1986. Amended by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 864, § 203, eff. Sept. 1, 1997; Acts 2005, 79th Leg., ch. 1109, § 21, eff. Sept. 1, 2005.

    Now, I do have to question the Constitutionality of such laws. However, I'll let the Courts decide if such things are legal or not and, if not, then they can be shot down when used against third parties in the future using the precedent set.

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    jovial1 year, 2 months ago

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    Good find Mdair! Wow, is this a precedent or has this type of thing happened before?

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    Will13131 year, 2 months ago

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    good find Mdiar.. and thanks for the invite....

    you NEVER cease to amaze me.. you're very astute for your age..

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    not2needy1 year, 2 months ago

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    Very interesting indeed. Has anything like this ever happened before?

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    icono11 year, 2 months ago

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    Interesting find.
    This development is significant and Barr should 'do something' to emphasize that importance.
    It will be interesting to see how the Republicans and Democrats respond to this.

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      cowboygrandpa1 year, 2 months ago

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      Mdiar:

      Good find and interesting.

      Of course we know that GW's home state will allow the good ol' boy McCain on the ballot.
      So they will have to reluctantly allow Obama.

      I will be interested in the effect this has on future conventions dates. Then still the Republicans may have to delay their convention if the Hurricane that is brewing strikes that region of the country.

      Almost seems like poetic justice in that Bush waited to help New Orleans, now the party he was trumpeted by may have its' convention delayed by the very thing that showed his incompetance on domestic matters as well as foreign matters.

      If his nomination is held up another week would that be an omen to the nation? LOL

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      protoham1 year, 2 months ago

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      I hope the Texas Board of Elections have some balls and tell them both "Sorry, you have not complied with the law, you can not be on the ballot.

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      Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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      Damn. Apparently a thread can't exist that doesn't have negs. Well, I think its a record going some 17 hours on a fairly active political story and having 0 negs, isn't it? Gotta be.

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      CRYMTYPHON1 year, 2 months ago

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      Assuming Obama can't get Texas's electoral votes anyway, it would be to his advantage to work to disqualify all of texas from voting.
      Of course, it would be wrong; and hundreds of texans would feel defrauded, but it would be tempting.
      But wrong.

      Excelent post, Mdiar!

                                                                       

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                  this is well said, Crymtyphon!
                  but complicated. You sure are smart!

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      jordan111 year, 2 months ago

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      I've enjoyed reading the comments on this. But at the end of the day, I'm afraid I can't contribute anything more than to LOL! & hope the world doesn't take notice!

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      lloydm651 year, 2 months ago

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      I would love to see a credible third party candidate in america,but good grief Charley brown,not Barr.He is without question a gad fly.He thought he could make points by joining up with the democrat impeachment crowd,that went over like a fart in church.I know people who swear they are going to write Hillary on their ballot, I think its silly we have our two candidates,its a little late for buyer's remorse.

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        LightofReason1 year, 2 months ago

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        First since its the party electors the people of a state vote for, a court would reasonably hold that the filing of a list of electors would satisfy the law. This is likely what was filed though unofficially both parties nominations were determined by the deadline. It quite odd in that both parties planned late conventions when neither was dealing with an incumbent rerunning. The fact LBJ decided to retire in 1968, placed Humphrey at a disadvantage timewise. Course HHH could have avoided that by breaking with LBJ on Nam earlier. Those precious wasted weeks likely put Nixon in the WH. What a better place America would be without Nixon's godawful SCOTUS appointee: Rehnquist. Unfortunately, Scalia and Thomas and now Roberts and Alito make Rehnquist look good.

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