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jovial1 year, 4 months ago

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It's all rhetoric from a lame duck President and a wannabe McLame candidate to look tough. This situation has been intensified by the U.S, not respecting Russia's objections to the missile shields. This "Bull in a China shop" foreign policy is alienating us around the world. The McCain's of the world pander to the people of America who maintain a disconnect to the world. Many of those that have never even left the state they live in for all of their lives. This isolationist and arrogant attitude that is being fed by the neoconservative warmongerers must be broken through education and a wiiling acceptance of world citizens and their point of view. Even if it may not always coincide with our own goals and interests in the world. We must use more diplomacy and stop threatening and bullying other countries to do what's in our interest. This is what we as Americans really need. If we don't stop bullying, then how can we still tell other countries to stop doing it?

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  gamahuche1 year, 4 months ago
  
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  This is very simply pay-back time for Kosovo.
  The idiocy of creating THAT "independent" state, which has NO viability whatsoever, is now being brought home to roost.
  Tighten your seat-belts, chaps - this is all going to get a lot worse before it can possibly get better.
  
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    Will13131 year, 4 months ago
    
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    This is very simply pay-back time for Kosovo.
    
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    exactly...
    
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      Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
      
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      Gama means the most recent events with Kosovo.
      
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        Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
        
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        Glad I could help ;)
        
        Did you catch the acceptance speech of Obama? Even Pat Buchanan is calling it among the best he's ever heard.
        
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      hyperbola1 year, 4 months ago
      
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      The former Chief Prosecutor for International Tribunal says Clinton was also just playing power games and that we have been deluded about Kosovo.
      
      International Criminal Tribunal: The US lied about Yugoslavia
      
      The former chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia in The Hague, Carla Del Ponte, this year published her memoir The Hunt: Me and War Criminals. There was no genocide in Kosovo. The "holocaust" was a lie. The Nato attack was fraudulent.
      
      http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/08/18/internat...
      
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        dunkirk1 year, 4 months ago
        
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        yeah riht so the mass graves photographed were all photoshopped right?
        
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    Searchbeam1 year, 4 months ago
    
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    gama,
    
    You are closer to the ground than we are.
    
    Was the crazy move by the Georgian President that caused the present crisis?
    
    All signs seem to indicate that.
    
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      gamahuche1 year, 4 months ago
      
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      Yes. For Georgia to join NATO would be highly provocative.
      Lets also not forget that Georgia was the birthplace of Stalin who, though discredited on many levels in the Soviet worldview, still retains iconic status.
      
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  mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
  
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  Wow...LOL like we had anything to back up our invasion of Iraq. We're spending billions to send the same people back again and again (to cons "all volunteer military" means as long as someone can be bribed to go back again and again, it's good for them and our military to send the same handful of people to do all the fighting for something that's supposedly the battle of the 21st century). Amazing. ;-(
  
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    CaptainLucid1 year, 4 months ago
    
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    If they are lucky they get bribed. Most of the time they get "stop lossed" which means you get no bonus and even though their commitment runs out next month you are going to be in Iraq another year
    
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  Georgia501 year, 4 months ago
  
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  You seem to think the US stands alone in demanding Russia exit Georgia. And we conservatives need educating?
  
  I think not.
  
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        Georgia501 year, 4 months ago
        
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        So...are we alone in demanding Russia leave Georgia or not?
        
        I thought it was a fairly straightforward point to make. No need to go all War And Peace on me.
        
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        CORVIDIVS1 year, 4 months ago
        
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        ... now THAT was a mouthful... as i stated on another thread,i have reasonable fears of the upping the ante as a prolonguation technique to keep the present dynasty seated... all in the name of vaunted DEMOCRACY,surely...
        
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      Georgia501 year, 4 months ago
      
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      Let me draw the picture for you.
      
      People and journalists are free to spew any level of ignorance, hatred, and vitriole at Bush for any reason and for no reason...whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent...here in the US; and clearly they do and have been since before Bush took office.
      
      In Russia, similar statements about Putin by a journalist get the journalist "disappeared."
      
      Before I commit what appears to be a foolish blunder in taking you seriously, how do you reconcile the above contrast with your obviously agitated disposition?
      
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    Searchbeam1 year, 4 months ago
    
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    I think the NeoCons are way past getting educated.
    
    They dropped out of School of Logic, Common Sense and Diplomacy a long time ago.
    
    All they have is false bravado. Anytime there is a consequence to their cowardly actions, they just crawl under the rock.
    
    These villains are responsible to the TOTAL DAMAGE done to our country over the past 8 years.
    
    Some day, when the truth comes out, they will have no place to hide.
    
    All of the rejects are now feeding off the "consulting" trough at the Pentagon and some others are nibbling at some obscure agencies.
    
    Don Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and their ilk don't have much time left.
    
    This free lunch will be over soon.
    
    I hope they have lined up fake passports and fake identities to go to some Latin American hideout. It is going to be scorching hot here very soon!
    
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  Blackacereturn1 year, 4 months ago
  
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  This is a direct result from our actions in Iraq. First China and now Russia...how can we tell them not to invade other nations when the standard bearer set the standard. The worlds moral leader blinked and all the tyrants sees it as an opportunity to behave badly. If we put the republicans in office again this will be the norm.
  
  So what if the white house act tough, so what if McCain talk tough did Russia bglink in the face of that? No!
  
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    Georgia501 year, 4 months ago
    
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    So to apply your logic, FDR/Truman was responsible for Eastern Europe's occupation, and Jimmy Carter was responsible for the invasion of Afghanistan, correct?
    
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