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Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 2 months ago in NewsFor a man who is 72 years old and has had four bouts with cancer to have chosen someone so completely unqualified to become president is shockingly irresponsible. Suddenly, McCain's age and health become central issues in the campaign, as does his judgment.
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david_nwpa1 year, 2 months ago
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Begala is absolutely right about Governor Palin's lack of experience and woefully lacking resume of foreign policy credentials. Forget the fact that she is young enough to be McCain's daughter, and that he is old enough to have been Methuselah's grandfather, he picked someone who is not prepared to be the President in the event of his demise.
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drpolyphemus1 year, 2 months ago
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"On July 11, 2008, Palin dismissed Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan for not adequately filling state trooper vacancies, and because he "did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues."[55] She instead offered him a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he turned down.
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Her power to fire him is not in dispute, but Monegan alleged that his dismissal was a retaliation for his reluctance to fire Palin's former brother-in-law, Alaska State Trooper Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister, Molly McCann.[58] Palin is currently being investigated by an independent investigator hired by the Alaska Legislature[59] to determine whether she abused her power when she fired Monegan. The investigation is scheduled to end October 30, only days before the November 4 presidential election."- wikipedia entry-
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 2 months ago
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DamonKnight1 year, 2 months ago
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A law official can be suspended or fired if allegations arise that have some credibility of acts of abuse, child abuse, sexual misconduct, or misconduct on the job to include abuse of power or authority.
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The allegations in this case (10 year old being tasered, wife being beaten, elderly man being beaten) were severe enough to warrent a dismissal.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 2 months ago
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McCain had to pick someone with zero creds.
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All but 2 Republicans with "experience" have a record that can be pointed to. That record is abysmal. (The 2 who are not abysmal opposed Bush's Iraq lack of policy so they would NEVER be considered).
The rest of the decent republicans either joined the libertarian party or are not planning on running again for the offices they hold.
Since Republicans want their personal version of God in politics, why do you suppose God would send a Hurricane in the direction of New Orleans on the anniversary of Katrina? On the week of the Republican Convention?
I think God may be sending Republican politicos a message .
"YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME"
How pompous to believe you do. How blasphemous!
Me, I don't believe God micromanages events here on earth.
I don't believe God gives a rats a** which team wins a football game.
And should be insulted when people pray for such trivial crapola.
The notion that "the prince of peace" would be for war and the killing called collateral damage these days that goes with it is hard to rationalize. The notion that a creator would be in favor of torture under any circumstances is hard to believe. The idea that it's fine to be for blowing the combined treasury of many generations to invade and occupy another sovereign nation but absolutely atrocious to spend a single penny to feed a hungry child in one's own nation must go over real big with "the Big Guy". God is most definitely NOT a Republican.
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DamonKnight1 year, 2 months ago
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He refused to fire that state trooper who, yes was her brother in law... however, read the entire allegations. The trooper was under investigation for tasering his 10 year old step son, beating Pailen's father, and abuse of his then wife.
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Oh and the court has already ruled in Alaska... " The Govenor has the power and the authority to fire any official for any reason." In otherwords... the investigation is going no where.
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GLee1 year, 2 months ago
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What we may mean is that Palin has a history of positive 'change'. She talks the talk then walks the walk. That has some BooT to it. Obama on the other hand is also 'inexperienced' and at the same time unproven. Palin wins head-on with the Liberal's top man. THAT is a fact. But, good luck to you and all of yours. We both need it to keep a Great America great.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 2 months ago
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Are you insane? She didn't even know what a vice president did?
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Walks what walk? What do you mean,the runway of that beauty contest she was a runner up in? 18 months experience and already under investigation for abusing the office? Hilarious, only a wingnut could like this nonsense. This ticket has-
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The only international agenda is war and more war,
So like every time in recent memory they start up the Guns Gays and God BS to hide behind. This time Americans can look at what these people did when they finally had complete control of all branches of the federal government under GWB. Do you really think they will believe the slogans when reality is in sharp contrast with them?
I don't care how religious you are, to claim any religion's creation stories be taught in a Science classroom is ludicrous- philosophy,social sciences, sure. Science? give me a break.
Even if this is a popular notion down at the barber shop, let's let science scholars teach science and leave "Floyd the barber" out of what actually goes in science textbooks.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 2 months ago
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So serving as a state legislator and a U.S. Senator are not enough experience if your a black man, but being runner up in a local beauty pageant is plenty if your white and a wingnut. Yeah I hear you loud and clear.
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rendale21 year, 2 months ago
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One thing we all need to think about mr obama has had 141 days in the senate.Ask our selves if we worked 141 days at a job would we be ceo.? Yes she is in a small state but was a city council member mayor and a governor. Mr obama refuses to say how he will do things. I am a democrat but he isnt god or a rockstar. Every other canditate accepting a nomination does it in the convention hall. He picks Joe biden limited votes while running for president to hilarys 17 million. First major decesion and he screwed up. Joe Biden was retiring so will he really be in it. He also said mr obama wasnt ready to lead the presidency doesn't warrant on the job training. One voter who by the way was african american said she was for hilary and said the dnc and the media hand picked obama and the people picked hilary not that is a democracy.
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Beau78901 year, 2 months ago
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Renee, Obama has said quite a bit about how he'd do things if elected. If you really wanted to learn about it, you could.
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You can start here--a 64-page PDF of his positions on all the relevant issues he'd face as president:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForCh...
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somecommonsense1 year, 2 months ago
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Klarissa if you were intellectually curious you could answer all your concerns with ease, however you have no interest in the truth, you enjoy having your head in the sand (polite) and that's fine...you are like many conservative in that you simply regurgitate whatever you hear that reinforces your assumptions...sad but true...it's ok though...you know what they say about opinions.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 2 months ago
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Sounds like you missed the 29 specific policy points in Obama's acceptance speech. You know John Kennedy gave his acceptance speech in a similar type of venue. You say your a Democrat? But you don't seem to like Biden much or be aware of the party's history regarding conventions. It's a fact that many of the people shilling on "news" interviews claiming they are Hillary supporters so angry that Obama won that they are now voting for a guy who opposes everything Hillary was for and who does not even believe women should receive equal pay for equal work have never voted for a Democrat before in any election. I don't want to say they are Republican operatives...but. Sure they are. If your not, you really need to listen to what Hillary said in her eloquent speech at the convention. Politics is a hardball game, she played hard to win but came up short. But politics is about policy not personality.
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This Democratic convention proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that these folks have far more in common than in difference, that these folks work very well as a team. I saw something quite different there, a new energized spirit.
A political party with more unity than ever before. I saw people with grace and courage. This was really something remarkable. There is nothing like that in the Republican party, just the same old record of oligarchy, corruption and failure. Who is excited about that? Keep saying Guns God Gays to distract from the tragic record of what you did with the power of all 3 seats of government under the worst president in history. For most Americans you may have fooled them once and shame on you, but to think they are so dim as to have forgotten the rotten scandals too numerous to go into here, or the lies to con us into a tragic needless war? The appointing of literally a guy who ran a pony show to head FEMA? Simply because of a political donation?
The blatantly unconstitutional usurping of powers to the executive branch?
The nominating of a traffic court lawyer to the supreme court? Yeah she got you off that drunk driving charge, but the Supreme court? Are you Kidding? Are we so dumb that we haven't noticed our money doesn't buy half what it did a couple years ago? Are we so dimwitted that we don't notice there are no solvent banks in this nation anymore because of allowing them to "regulate" themselves???? To Quote a great man:
"ENOUGH"
"We are better than that!"
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nmbear1 year, 2 months ago
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Let us look at what Bill Clinton said only a few months ago; "Who is really ever prepared to be President?-William J. Clinton." Now lets look at the other three people in the race. Are they not all members of our Federal Legislative Branch already? Do they have any executive exsperience? I do not believe so and now they are going to do more for our country by taking away their vote in our federal legislative process? I do feel that the acusations of pandering are ridiculous. Of course Palin is being brought on to help shore up the Women's vote. But all VP decisions in the last 100 years have been made to help balance the parties ticket. So the leftist press wanting to over emphasis the obivious is a slap in the face of the American public. Where was the leftist press when Obama not four years ago stated that for the Democratic Party to appeal to the American public they must simplify their message. Was he calling the American people stupid? The Press sure left that alone.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 2 months ago
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Mbear, you were making some sense till the "leftist" press thing.
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What media outlet is owned by a leftist?
Rupert Murdoch? Westinghouse? Disney?
Leftists running those companies? really?
MSNBC is about the only slant to the left in it's opeds, the rest are all obviously pushing McCain.
But war is peace and love is hate in this Orwellian state we seem stuck in.
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DamonKnight1 year, 2 months ago
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You say that Governor Palin has no experience? She was mayor of her home town, govenor of the state of alaska, has faced the corruption in Alaska's government and fought to cut the overspending there (to the fact of selling the govenors jet on ebay and returning the money to the state's budget). She has worked to increase jobs and the money in Alaska's budget and did so by cutting out waste, cutting out programs that did not work, and at the same time was able to lower taxes while increasing the funds Alaska could spend on essential programs such as conservation of wildlife areas, improved infrastructure, creation of new jobs and industry.
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Now, lets compare that to Obama. Obama was an activist in Chicago... he voted 3 times to turn down a bill that would make it illegal for doctors to continue abortions when the fetus after the abortion attempt, was born live, he has spent a total of 143 active days in the US Senate, his voting record in the Illinois senate includes mostly votes of "Present". He is currently keeping television stations from running a paid for advertisement that show his connections to Bill Ayers... by threatening lawsuits against the stations that air the ad... and yet he speaks of freedom of speech? What foreign policy does Barak Obama have? He has said he would sit down unconditionally with Iran and other enemies... a policy that has failed in the past because Iran's government only responds to, and only if the action is severly detrimental to the government not the people, sanctions... which it and korea have decidedly ignored in the past few years.
What credentials does Biden have? He has as much experience in the senate as McCain... however, when Obama talks about all the failed policies of the past, he mentions that McCain was in the senate at the time... failing to mention that so was Biden. Biden voted against the surge in Iraq.. which we now see is working as incidents of violence and rebellion are down. Biden has voted against off shore drilling and energy independance... which increases the money pouring into Russia, Syria, Iran, and China.
Govenor Pailen doesnt need credentials on Foreign policy when McCain has 10 times the combined experience as Obama and Biden. She does, however, have the experience of running a state and being in an executive position. She has the experience of domestic policy... Something both Biden and Obama lack.
I have followed this campaign and seen the lies and flops presented by Obama... i have seen him put down america overseas and here at home, I have heard his reasons for associating with Rev Wright and Bill Ayers... And he has left a sour taste in my mouth.-
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miklkit1 year, 2 months ago
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You really should read this.
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protoham1 year, 2 months ago
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And the problem is? I don't like Walmart either, but I bet there is a Walmart in Illinois and Delaware too. So does that make Obama and Bidden bad people. As far as gravel goes, do you have any idea what happens to asphalt and concrete roads in Alaska. So I fail to see the point of this little story.
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somecommonsense1 year, 2 months ago
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What credentials does Biden have...are you high? Do the research...stop with the dumb assertions.
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"Govenor Pailen doesnt need credentials on Foreign policy when McCain has 10 times the combined experience as Obama and Biden. She does, however, have the experience of running a state and being in an executive position. She has the experience of domestic policy... Something both Biden and Obama lack."
What planet do you live on...she DOES need foreign policy experience she's THE VICE PRESIDENT!
"What foreign policy does Barak Obama have? He has said he would sit down unconditionally with Iran and other enemies... a policy that has failed in the past"
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injest1 year, 2 months ago
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FTA
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“Her personal story is impressive: former fisherman, mother of five.
But that hardly qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.”
Actually City council then Mayor, and then Governor, 1992 to present that’s 16 years in elected office.
She actually HAS fought corruption and The oil companies AND won!
Something my 2 Senators from California have NEVER been able to accomplish.
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Klarissa1 year, 2 months ago
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This was written by a democrat party operative.
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Please note that CNN offered the other view at this link:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/rollins.pal...
She defeated the longtime senator and Republican governor in a primary and then went on and defeated the former Democratic governor.
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Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago
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I'll have you know that McCain's foreign policy experience includes the destruction of Carthage and the sacking of Rome.
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Before Cato declared "Carthago delenda est" he first said "McCain. HEY, OLD MAN, what's your opinion on this?"
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Ciera-Marie1 year, 2 months ago
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Look at this way. She has absolutely no experience, has a large family (which will appeal to Evangelicals and Catholics alike. {i know not everyone in both religions have big families but there is a trend back to big families.} ), is facing ethics charges, one of the Senators from AK is being indicted, is pushing for drilling in ANWAR, keeps passing into law aerial hunting of wolves (including mothers with pups. That is not hunting. That is target practice. Aerial hunting is an insult to true hunters.) and many other things.
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Because of that track record and I suspect doing what the Bush administration wants, she's the perfect candidate. Has to be more of a party player than MN Governor Tim Pawlenty. I'm actually surprised he didn't get the VP nod. OH GOD, I hope they're not grooming him for president. I pray that isn't the case.-
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Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago
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Listen to the liberals howl.
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When I was in my high school psych class our teacher asked the question "How do you tell which dog in a pack was hit by a stone you threw?"
You can hear the results of McCain's rock on this thread. Methinks they protest too much.
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Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago
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OK, first off that was more likely your high school psych THERAPY, and second, your "teacher's" quote is attributable to western author Louis L'amour.
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http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?i...
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day45561 year, 2 months ago
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Did you say this about Governors Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton? I am from Arkansas and can guarantee you that this lady has much more experience than Bill Clinton did when he ran. And neither one of these former governors lifted a finger to root our corruption at all, much less in their own party as Gov. Palin has.
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Dionys1 year, 2 months ago
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"I do beleive I hear the sound of Panic coming Barry's direction"
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With all the Repugnant Con comments regarding a nobody with no experience, trying to build her up into FDR, the only panic I see is a Repugnant Con party blindsided by a man fighting the early stages of Alzheimers. -
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splitrch1 year, 2 months ago
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This was actually the most cynical decision of a quite cynical group of people. The only thing I can fathom is that they (RNC) think they can steal away "Hillary Voters" who either don't want the "Black Guy" or will vote for a "Woman Candidate" at any cost.
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Here's a news flash for you - my wife who voted for Hillary in the Primary has been solidly behind Obama since the outcome was known. As a woman she is outraged the the Republicans consider women as being emotional rather than intellectual. Believe me she is not alone in thinking this way. This pick tells us more about the way the Republican movers and shakers think then anything else. I think you need to get a grip on reality.
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somecommonsense1 year, 2 months ago
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Mine too Splitrch...she loved Hillary, now shes solid for Obama and was outraged at Palin's comments regarding Ferarro and Hillary, this is all a Rovian trick...all these PUMA people and such...it's just a farce to try to psychologically affect people, remember who we are running against, steve schmidt and John "sellout" McCain.
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Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago
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Hm. Is this what panic sounds like?
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I'm thinking when Obama heard this, he said something like
"He picked who? WHO? OMFG, He picked HER? Does he have a death wish? Holy crap. order the dom perignion, baby, I'm gonna be president for sure! I could be caught doing a campfire girl and STILL win by a landslide."-
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ningyo1 year, 2 months ago
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while true that her being a woman will add some interest .. the main reason for her pick was a long record of REAL conservative actions and she is also a very articulate speaker..just as good as osamabama without all the platitudes..she has has REAL people who can talk about her history and life..unlike barry who has to hide all of his life-long dealings..as for experience i would say thats a laugh...two years governing a huge complex state and years of political infighting against corruption and govt pork..thats a real record...what has barry done..oh right..he sat in some church for 20 years and organized a community into decrepit slum housing...and his management experience seems to be 5 years on the board running some group...but he cant seem to remember who he worked with (ayers) or what they did...for 5 years...palin will turn this campaign on its ear...then she and hillary can square off in 2012
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corl641 year, 2 months ago
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What I think is funny about this article is all these names the writer is rattleing off here, if any of these others were picked, they would have been "McCains worst pick" instead. I think the Obamamaniacs are starting to get worried about losing.
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somecommonsense1 year, 2 months ago
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I would bet you 1000 bucks she didnt know where georgia was till the war started, and now you probably didnt either, but you're not Vice President, a JOKE shameful...I care about this country too much to leave in the hands of mcCain and the cheerleader
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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"as for experience i would say thats a laugh...two years governing a huge complex state and years of political infighting against corruption and govt pork.."
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---It's good to know you're laughing because you can't be serious. First, I think it's been only 18 months she's had the job and what has she had to govern? Bears, wolves, reindeer, and moose? Alaska is the largest state but with a "whopping" population of a little under 700,000 people (only 100,000 more people than in the relatively microscopic Washington DC where I live and where Palin aspires to live come January) it is the third least populous state in the union. It's only *been* a state just under 50 years.-
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DamonKnight1 year, 2 months ago
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So... because the state has fewer people and has only been a state for 50 years.. makes it easier to run than a large state? Hate to tell you this.. that actually makes it harder.
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1) Fewer people means less money in the budget for things such as education, infrastructure, and other programs because it means less taxes coming in.
2) Fewer people means less jobs and thus lower income. This puts a greater burden on the state's government to help low income households and a greater burden on the state to produce greater paying jobs through job and corporate incentives.
3) The area of infrastructure (roads ect) needs to be greater and maintained to a greater extent by the state government than the towns. Roads et al, are maintained by 2 entities in a state.. the state for state roads (highways and the like) and towns (town roads). Seeing that the highways connecting towns to one another are more extensive than town roads (for the simple fact that towns are smaller and more spread out) means a greater burden on the state government to manage those roads and highways.
See, in larger states most of the decisions for municipalities are governed by the cities and towns... take Mass for example... we are divided into several districts each district with its own district managers and each town within the district with its own town managers. Each managers office has its own oversight committee. The only thing that our state government has to worry about is federal money and the state roads (which there are 5 major state roads in Mass and the rest of the major roads are federal). In Alaska where the towns are small and spread apart, the state doesnt have the luxury of being able to have such a diverse and complex system of municipalities... which means the state has to take care of things usually reserved for the towns. This, in turn, means that Govenor Palin has had to do more to get things accomplished in her state than most state Govenors do. And she has done things that most Govenors have yet to do.-
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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the "executive experience" arguement is ridiculous, especially after eight horrendous years of leadership under a guy who had plenty of "executive experience" and has done a decidedly lousy job.
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Dionys1 year, 2 months ago
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"This, in turn, means that Govenor Palin has had to do more to get things accomplished in her state than most state Govenors do. And she has done things that most Govenors have yet to do."
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You're right! And here's what she's done:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/29/19534/...
God Bless Wal Mart!
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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Who cares what you people think qualifies as experience anyway? Look what cons put in the White House for 8 years and look at the toilet your judgement turned our country into? What's funny is that cons are lying again and behaving as if they think anyone believes they actually have some meaningful criteria for decision making.
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somecommonsense1 year, 2 months ago
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oldgringo...what r you talking about?!?!?! be rational here if Obama made this pick you would be saying exactly what most Republicans and Dems are saying...SHE IS NOT FIT TO LEAD...there is no comparison to Obama here, he is a US Senator, before that a state senator, he is a Harvard and Columbia Grad he is a lawyer, specializing in constitutional law...she HAS A BA IN JOURNALISM< SHE WANTED TO WORK FOR ESPN!!!!! I need a drink I can't believe what is happening, thank GOD they are going to lose.
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pcknowledge1 year, 2 months ago
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Well with all this talk about experience, let's do a comparison. Obama said the Iraqis need to govern their own country, and we need to bring our troops home. Bush/McCain said it after Obama said it. Obama said we need to hold diplomatic talks with Iran, and tell Ahmedinejad what's not acceptable. Bush/McCain laughed at the idea of "diplomatic talks" with Iran, then Bush/McCain/Rice said they would hold talks with Iran and Ahmedinejad.
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Palin hasn't said anything, but in all fairness her candidacy has just been announced. Looking at Palin's professional backgound, listening to her speeches and watching her demeanor on TV, I know leaders like Putin and Ahmedinejad in foreign countries would never take her seriously. I would have voted for Hillary, I will vote for Obama. McCain/Palin together would be a third Bush term and our country can't handle that!-
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 2 months ago
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Yes let's look at what the neocon administration accomplished.
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They stuck a guy who ran a pony show in charge of America's emergency response organization FEMA because of a a political donation. We saw what was accomplished in the response to Katrina .
They accomplished outing a CIA agent without being tried for treason.
They accomplished snowing the country into going to war under false pretenses.
They accomplished a deficit undreamed of devaluing the dollar.
They accomplished an unregulated banking system that teeters on complete failure.
They accomplished the undermining of the middle class.
They accomplished the turning of agencies that were to protect people from dangers into protecting profits at the expense of safety. The FDA, FCC etc. now protect the interests of industry instead of citizens.
I could go on, you know.
The record is the only thing that you can't spin, we all saw this.
We all have felt it's effect.
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somecommonsense1 year, 2 months ago
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PCKNOWLEDGE great points...ALSO what Palin does is re-energizes the left to vote because she seems to be an ideologue and the one thing McCain had going with Independents was theat they, not me, thought he was different and not so neocon-ish, she confirms his shift to the right and "do anything to get elected " strategy...I think he made a really bad pick, I mean he met her once...the Obama VP pick was a process steeped in thought and research and a team of people who really looked at the choice as one beyond political calculations...with Ridge he might have won, Romney would have been laughed off the world stage, Palin is a joke, I mean think about her meeting with Putin, or well anyone...
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bubba21 year, 2 months ago
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Here is Palin's resume --
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* Palin was elected Alaska's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has no foreign policy experience and NO experience at the national level.
* Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest. Women will really 'love' that ... NOT!
* She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000 (and didn't support McCain!).
* Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.
* Palin doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.
* Palin is solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewable energy won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska. (Her husband works for BP!)
How closely did McCain analyze and study this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position. How's that for real in-depth analysis, contemplation, and planning?
I think Palin will turn out to be a disaster for McCain - heckuva job, Johnny ....-
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Klarissa1 year, 2 months ago
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Here is just part of Obama's resume:
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Organizer
Obama Meets Acorn
What has Barack Obama got to do with all this? Plenty. Let’s begin with Obama’s pre-law school days as a community organizer in Chicago.
Few people have a clear idea of just what a “community organizer” does. A Los Angeles Times piece on Obama’s early Chicago days opens with the touching story of his efforts to build a partnership with Chicago’s “Friends of the Parks,” so that parents in a blighted neighborhood could have an inviting spot for their kids to play.
This is the image of Obama’s organizing we’re supposed to hold. It’s far from the whole story, however. As the L. A. Times puts it, “Obama’s task was to help far South Side residents press for improvement” in their communities.
Part of Obama’s work, it would appear, was to organize demonstrations, much in the mold of radical groups like Acorn.-
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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Barack Obama's elected service resume:
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- 8 years in the illiinois state legislature
- 3 years in the US Senate (jan 2005 - present)
- rose to prominence in his party after giving the keynote address at the 2004 democratic convention
Abraham Lincoln's elected service resume:
- 10 years in the illinois state legislature
- 2 years in the US House of Representatives
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Historylover1 year, 2 months ago
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Everything you point out about Palin, I agree with, that is what makes America great--diversity. Palin seems to share the beliefs of many people, including this woman. All of these blog posts are actually making me like her more and more... I hope you are right about her "resume"
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most_reasonable1 year, 2 months ago
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Ms. Pain will fortify the right wing base with her stance on abortion, guns, home schooling, preference for "intelligent design" over intelligent biological theory, the push for raping the Alaskan wilderness, taking the Polar Bear off the endangered list and put it on the extinction list, and calling Hillary Clinton a "whiner".
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Of course she will also fortify the democratic, Hillary supporters, and middle America against more of McSame. I can't believe she says I can't believe that she says NUK-U-LAR. Of course that never bothered the GOP "faithful" who thought that G. W. Bush was "brilliant".-
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miklkit1 year, 2 months ago
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This is too much like fun.
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This is brilliant?
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/149301/drunk_bush/
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jaern1 year, 2 months ago
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I am thrilled for McCain's choice in a running mate. Not because she is a woman but because of her inexperience. He can't very well run ads pointing out his opinions that Barak Obama is too inexperienced to be president without casting a shadow of doubt upon his own choice of Sarah Palin- and him being the oldest candidate with a history of melanoma recurrence 4 times. Its perfect and I couldn't be happier! Thank you, John!!!!
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Klarissa1 year, 2 months ago
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When was Obama mayor? When was Obama Governor?
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How many days has Obama spent being in charge of anything but the failed Annenberg Project?
"The cloak of media invisibility is slowly beginning to lift from Barack Obama's most important administrative leadership experience, helming an expensive educational reform effort in Chicago that failed to produce any measurable academic gains, according to the project's own final report.
A compliant media has averted its eyes so far. A timeline of Obama's career from George Washington University omits it.
But the fact that Obama was in charge of a massive expensive project makes it indisputably a matter of proper vetting to examine his track record at delivering on promises of hope and change."-
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bubba21 year, 2 months ago
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Obama was in the Ilinois state SENATE before becoming a NATIONAL Senator.
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Obama HAS dealt with national and international issues. Palin doesn't have a clue.
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simonsez1 year, 2 months ago
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But Obama was a community organizer, Klarissa ... doesn't that trump Mayor and Governor???????
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Plus Obama's going for number 1; she's only going for number 2.
For some reason, liberals seem to be concerned about this woman.
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miklkit1 year, 2 months ago
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As mayor, her town went down the drain. The local walmart sells the most duct tape in the country. Duct tape holds broken stuff together.
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not2needy1 year, 2 months ago
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Klarissa, Get real. I could be the mayor of a city with 20 people in it, or the Gov of a state with less population than the city i live in. That doesn't take a lot of smarts, it just takes surrounding yourself with people who are! Get a clue.
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protoham1 year, 2 months ago
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The difference will be she will not be president and gets to learn on the Job, BO will be learning and making mistakes on the job which will affect you and me.
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But all in all, it really does not matter, the job is president, not King. And all a president can do is stop or approve a law written by congress.
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fliksrus1 year, 2 months ago
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No, McCain is not out of his mind. He's a crafty professional politician who has made his career taking unexpected paths. But now we can add a new description: cynical. The level of cynicism in this decision takes one's breath away.
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Palin, who I am sure is a nice person, good mother and dedicated civil servant, is breathtakingly unqualified to be a heart-beat away from the leadership of the free world. McCain chose her to shore up his conservative credentials, to appease the religious right, and to try to appeal to disaffected Clinton supporters. Period. Not because of experience, knowledge, capability, credibility, judgment, wisdom, expertise; none of the criteria that should be rightfully expected in a vice president. If McCain is elected and later becomes incapacited (not an inconceivable possibility by any stretch, given his age and prior health problems), could anyone, ANYONE, think that Palin is prepared to step in, manage the nation's economy, deal with the most dangerous and difficult foreign policy decisions in decades, be commander-in-chief of our nation's soldiers now in a state of war? The thought would be laughable if it were not so terrifying. This decision brings the politics of "do anything to get elected" to a new low. And what does it say of McCain's respect for women when he thinks that millions of women who supported Clinton will now back a McCain/Palin ticket simply because they share the same anatomical parts as Palin, even when her policies and beliefs are the polar opposite of Clinton.
I have been a Republican for 45 years. I have never voted for a Democrat for national office. But I admit I have been teetering this election year. John McCain has just pushed me over the edge.-
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most_reasonable1 year, 2 months ago
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Ms. Pain will fortify the right wing base with her stance on abortion, guns, home schooling, preference for "intelligent design" over intelligent biological theory, the push for raping the Alaskan wilderness, taking the Polar Bear off the endangered list and put it on the extinction list, and calling Hillary Clinton a "whiner".
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Of course she will also fortify the democratic, Hillary supporters, and middle America against more of McSame. I can't believe she says I can't believe that she says NUK-U-LAR. Of course that never bothered the GOP "faithful" who thought that G. W. Bush was "brilliant".
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most_reasonable1 year, 2 months ago
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McSame is simply putting out a straw dog to attract the lightning bolts that justifiably should be directed toward him and his incompetent leader GWB.
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Ms PAIN is Pat Buchananin drag.
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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right. he chose her in order to win an election, not to fill the very important and very real job of Vice President of the United States. its a clear illustration of McCain's short-term thinking on questions that need long-term answers.
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
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...if you have any left after Dumya! The Congress will have to lift the federal debt ceiling too...from Dumya's 11 trillion to 20 trillion if another repug as pres! Then we'll need the draft too, like McBush said, for the forces for two more wars... four going at one time.
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Only pres to drop taxes during a war in history - DUMYA! McBush wants to be the second in history!
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waltculver1 year, 2 months ago
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fliksrus, you're right on. I would, however, shift the emphasis of the debate from "experience" to demonstrated "judgment." In this Obama has proved to have superior judgment on the matter of the timetable for Iraq and talking to Iran, among the more obvious cases. McCain/Palin have just added an example of very dubious judgment in repeatedly referring to Palin as a down-to-earth soccer mom.
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Whoa! How's that going to play if she has to stand up to Putin or the crazy who's president of Iran?? Golda Meir or Margaret Thatcher never characterized themselves that way! And at 72, McCain is facing bad odds of being there always to do that, in that men in this country have an average life expectancy of only the mid-70s, and he's got those 4 incidents of a most dangerous form of cancer.
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Tcaros1 year, 2 months ago
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McCain was a good soldier. His father was an admiral. He was being groomed from a young age. He crashed his plane 5 times before getting his wings. He was persistant not talented- didn't want to dissappoint. Then he crashed in Veitnam (not shot down). He bravely endured the struggle.
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This makes him a good soldier, but not a good leader. His choices, including being indicted as part of the Keating 5, make him appear corrupt and always seeking approval from wealthy and powerful people.
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 2 months ago
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One thing I will give credit to McLame for is the festering sexism that is still alive in America.
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I have seen opinions from more than one pundit that points out Biden's debate style is very aggressive and he will have to keep that in check because he will be seen as coming on to strong against Palin.
Well, there your have it - the belief that women need to be "protected" is still rampant in this nation. Will it be enough to swing the vote?
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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palin was a poor choice for many reasons.
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she undermines McCain's arguement about experience.
McCain has only spoken to her once, so we're not even sure that he thinks she's a great choice.
contrary to con fantasies, she won't pull Hillary supporters across the aisle, since she's pretty much against everything that Hillary has fought long and hard for. and its shows the GOP's inherent sexism to think women are so stupid that they would simply flock to Mccain just because palin and hillary are both female.
she was only chosen to help McCain win the presidency. she wasn't chosen for the very real job of vice president. big difference. and it shows McCain's short-term thinking.
and next week, when they are standing together, she will make McCain look very old by comparison. not the visual the GOP is going for.
Palin as a choice also shows that there were a few people who turned down the job before her cause there's no way in hell you can convince me she was his first and only choice.
again, poor choice. poor judgement on McCain's part. and the cons can say all they want about palin's "executive experience" being the gov of a state that has fewer people than san francisco, but we've all seen from the past eight years that "executive experience" simply doesn't add up to squat.-
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 2 months ago
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I have a feeling this was Rove's doing. He was on TV claiming she had been mayor of Alaska's 2nd largest city. lol
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Between McCain's dementia and her inexperience, Rove and the other neocons who have decimated this country, will have a free hand to continue on their misbegotten path to more wars and a full-blown economic depression.
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MollieM1 year, 2 months ago
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This just further shows McCain's 'old fart' thinking.
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I doubt Palin will bother Cindy too much, I doubt she's even aware
what's going on around her.
Palin was put there for the female vote.
How insulting!!
Any Hillary fence sitter is no true Democrat if they even
think about voting for this woman.
This guy os too old and too stuck in his ways!
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Spadecaller1 year, 2 months ago
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Palin is already becoming McCain's latest blunder. Independents and the last few Hillary holdouts are even more upset now that McCain has chosen a VP that is to the right of Pat Buchanan. This is turning out to be another boost for Obama. Keep up the good work, John.
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pcknowledge1 year, 2 months ago
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"I have a feeling she's quicker on her feet than he is..."
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That statement reminds me of a commercial I saw which is most appropriate in this context, & with reference to Palin. It was a commercial about drugs, it said :" A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
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hkeltsch1 year, 2 months ago
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The other VP picks for McCain must have turned him down. Also, probably a spokesman for the VP picks must have told McCain to pick an unknown so any loss in November wouldn't damage the more well known canditates. I think Palin is the sacrifical lamb for the republican party. McCain will be too old to run again if he losses and anyone who is his VP pick won't recover enough for a decade or more to run again.
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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you've hit the nail on the head.
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mccain has only spoken to her once in person. how could she possibly have been his first choice?
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Harbeas1 year, 2 months ago
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From what I am reading here the majority seem to think that experience is the prime requirement for a candidate for vp or president. I don't think that is the prime requirement we should hang our hat on. There are many examples of people taking over a job with little or no experience and have done a great job. I would rather see more importance put on who is elected to congress than the experience a vp candidate has.
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jordan111 year, 2 months ago
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I agree with you that more attention should be paid to Congress; however, given the climate right now (Iraq, Iran, Georgia, Russia), there are going to be some VERY important decisions that fall at the feet of the executive branch. And it's going to affect OUR futures. No way do I want McCain and some silly wannabe to be handed that kind of power.
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DMS1 year, 2 months ago
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The most puzzling thing about this story is the fact the she said yes. What was SHE thinking??????? By all acouncts they had only met once. "Do you want to be VP?" "Ok,Here honey hold the baby...." Guys, she has a 4month old special needs child....and I'm not even touching the 'heartbeat away issue'
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pcknowledge1 year, 2 months ago
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Obama was first to say he would start of diplomatic relations with Iran, and not blow their heads of until they seriously represent a threat. I am glad Obama said he wants to bring our troops home from Iraq, and re position them to Afghanistan when neccessary. I am glad Obama said it's time for the Iraqis to govern themsefles.
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McCain flip flopped. For months, Republicans ran ads ridiculing Obama's statements. McCain even said our troops needed to be in Iraq for 100 more yrs. After a few months passed by, useless Condi Rice & McCain had the nerve to announce on ABC news, on separate occassions, that they would consider diplomatic talks with Ahmedinejad. Then McCain & Bush together announced they had mutually decided with Iraq's government that the Iraqis will govern themselfes at the earliest. Which is everything Obama had said he wanted to do, and Bush/McCain ridiculed him for. All the McCain camp is good at is running smear campaigns, then using Obama's ideas. Then sleazy McCain gets up a video during the Democratic Convention where he says he congratulates Obama. That ad was so sleazy and corny. McCain isn't even man enough to admit he implemented Obama's ideas in Iraq. -
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mmrhe1 year, 2 months ago
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Ani.....Please explain how Obama is the "Affirmative Action candidate". I find that highly offensive and I'm a white guy for the record.
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Are you insinuating Obama is a Presidential candidate because he has received preferential treatment? Do you believe his race is the primary reason for his success?
I'll tell you what I think Ani and it ain't pretty. I think you're a racist who just cannot get over the fact we have a blackman on the verge of becoming President.
And what is this obsession you have with his white relatives? Your paranoid delusions have finally brought you to the point of sounding like a biggoted half-wit Ani.
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