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UnusualSuspect1 year, 2 months ago

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God is against gays?

Since God is the creator of all things, and everyone knows God only makes perfect things and doesn't make mistakes, then I don't think God is against gays.

Make sense, automan?...yes, I thought so too...

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    Dionys1 year, 2 months ago
    
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    "the bible is gods word and it clearly says man shall not lay with man"
    
    Actually it doesn't say that. It might say that in a few English translations or even most of them, but in the original Hebrew that is not what is said. Leviticus, or the PRIESTS CODES, only forbids one particular act (and in context it's meant for LEVITES) that homosexuals engage in.
    
    Homosexuality in and of itself, according to the Bible, is not a sin and does not carry any kind of 'stain' of impropriety or impurity.
    
    If you're going to lash out against Homosexuality because of Leviticus, you then have to consider all the other requirements of Leviticus. So you can no longer plant both shade and sun grass seeds in the same plot of land (so much for your 'perfect' lawn, huh). Additionally you can no longer wear clothes made of two different fibres (though here the English translation shows its fatally flawed nonspecificity again -- the law regards mixing Linen with Wool).
    
    Christ said nothing about Homosexuality and reached out to embraced the truly marginalized in society, which frankly today include the homosexual population.
    
    If you are a Christian, then you should be following Christ's example as set out in the Gospels, not referring back to Jewish Levite Priest Codes.
    
    If you are Jewish and are going to go about ranting "Leviticus this, Leviticus that" then you should follow the Orthodox observance and obey all 600+ rules, including the ones to not cut the hair at the corners of your head (where is that, anyway?). Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem also have the tendency to stone women for wearing pants. Not exactly the group I'd want to claim as 'my own.'
    
    Leviticus also has quite a bit governing the 'rules' of slave ownership -- such as who you can take as slaves, how you should treat your women slaves versus your men slaves and to whom the children of the slaves belong. Again -- not the model of 'life' I would choose to emulate if I'm going for 'Christ-like.'
    
    With all the hatred in the world an apparent manifestation of the Adversary's work, why would you want to claim to be doing God's work but in reality contributing to the work of God's opponent?
    
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      Marquus1 year, 2 months ago
      
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      And just where does it say "in the Tanach or Brit Chadashah" that homosexuality is not a sin in and of itself?
      
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        Dionys1 year, 2 months ago
        
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        Are we talking Jewish law and interpretation or Christian? If you're talking Brit Chadashah, you're talking Orthodox Jew. Orthodox Jews tend to stone women who wear pants in Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem. Today -- not two thousand years ago. Personally I'd rethink justifying an anti-homosexual stance based on the logic of people who stone women wearing pants.
        
        The original Hebrew is:
        V’et zachar lo tishkav mishk’vey eeshah toeyvah hee.
        
        Which translates to something like:
        And with a male you shall not lay lyings of a woman..this is "to-eyvah."
        
        In historical context what it probably means is that man should not have RITUAL an*l sex with another man during a pagan ritual. You have to remember that the societies that wrote these Biblical passages were high-context societies (where ours is a low-context society). You can google those terms if you're unfamiliar.
        
        Even if you take a more literal approach and interpret it in a 20th century setting, it speaks only of male on male an*l sex and says nothing about homosexuality or lesbians.
        
        Any further interpretation smacks of fitting your interpretation of the Bible into a political stance and moves away from literal interpretation.
        
        Read the entirety of Leviticus before you decide to start pouncing on 18:22. You might not want to follow every single other Levite rule and if you do not follow the other rules while shouting about 18:22 you're the worst kind of hypocrite.
        
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  DoseASpinoza1 year, 2 months ago
  
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  The same chapter of Leviticus that condemns homosexuality also says a couple verses later that you should be put to death for eating catfish. Look it up.
  
  It's the only chapter in the Bible that says being gay is wrong. And let's not forget that Jesus sent his disciples out in twos.
  
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  colo_princess1 year, 2 months ago
  
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  God doesn't like mass murderers and they exist does that mean that he created them?
  
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