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Posted By capj71 1 year, 4 months ago in NewsThe Obama campaign wasted little time pouncing on John McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin as inexperienced, in bed with Big Oil, and committed to overturning Roe v. Wade. Democrats called the choice political panic.
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Will13131 year, 4 months ago
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mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
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"She likes moose burgers. She like to get up early and go hunting moose. Watch out or she might come in your direction."
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--What's really ironic about your comment is that there's maybe 150,000 moose left in AK and with all the development going on there, she won't be able to indulge in her hobby too much longer.
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mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
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-Ahhh...My friend Will again...What a surprise. How delicious that you'd be the first to comment on this thread. So when we last communicated yesterday, you were slamming me sideways from Sunday (lovely vocabulary you have, btw) for criticizing Cindy McCain's looks:
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Will1313 said: "there's a lot of reasons not to vote for McCain.. his wife's looks are not one of them..."
-And here you are a day later pitching a little tent in public over someone who is actually *running* for office. Still waiting to find out why it's appropriate to discuss someone's looks when she's a "hottie" but not if one doesn't think so. We're all ears, Will. I'm sure you can respond in a mature and civil manner (like you did yesterday). ;-)
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amazed1 year, 4 months ago
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yeah, all this may be true -- she might be inexperienced, but at least she has been a governor. Please elaborate on Obama's leadership and managerial experience. Please elaborate on Obama's foreign service experience. Please elaborate on any of Obama's relevant experience.
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What Obama really has is a golden tongue. So yes, he gives awesome speeches, but like Palin, he also has little or no experience. Unlike Palin, he won't be a heartbeat away from the Presidency with so little experience, he will BE the President with so little experience.
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Endoscopy1 year, 4 months ago
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He was trying to say that Obama has a lot of experience and can give great speeches. I thought that was true. Or is it that Palin has a lot of experience.
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The problem for the Democrats is that pointing out the little experience that Palin has as second on the Republican ticket just bounces back to the fact that the Democrat top of ticket has less executive experience.
Keep these stories coming Democrats. McCain knew what you would do and how it creates a bigger problem for you every time it is brought up.
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MajJohn1 year, 4 months ago
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He did and stayed active in politics, joining the new Republican party. The depth of his knowledge and understanding the challenges facing the nation were clearly demonstrated in the Lincoln Douglas debates. Obama will have his chance to debate. I believe Noway was referring to Obama's state legislative experience.
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MajJohn1 year, 4 months ago
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Bull hockey, Lincoln had 4 consecutive terms in the state legislature beginning in 1834. He eventually became the Wig party leader. He then served a term in the US House of Representatives from 1844 to 1846 giving him 10 years of public service. He retired to private law practice. When he ran for the Senate in 1858 his debates against Douglas placed him in the national spotlight. He had far more experience than Obama has.
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The only similarity between the two was that he criticized the sitting President for going into an unnecessary war with Mexico, wasting tax dollars and having no (exit strategy) plan after the war. At the time he was branded as unpatriotic. Ain't that a hoot?-
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NoWayMan1 year, 4 months ago
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at least you got a few things right.
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- lincoln did serve for 10 years in the illionis state legislature.
(obama served in the illinois legislature for 8 years)
- lincoln did serve for only 2 years in congress
(obama is finishing his third year in the senate)
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so, in terms of actual service as an elected official, their resumes are VERY similar, with Lincoln serving 12 years as an elected official (2 years at the national level) and Obama serving for 11 (3 years at the national level) with both of them doing a majority of their serivce in the illinois state legislature.
obviously, I shoulda specified that I meant they have similar resumes in terms of public service, but I thought you all would get that point.
what you got wrong....
- Lincoln was never the whig party leader, just the leader of the illinois whigs (the way you phrased it makes it sound like he was their national leader, a position he never held with the whigs)
- Lincoln served in congress from 1847 to 1849, not 1844 to 1846.
- sure, the Lincoln-Douglas debates brought Lincoln into the national spotlight. But the truth is, hardly anyone actually heard or saw those debates (no radio, no TV). also, Lincoln lost the election to Douglas.
so he didn't have "far more experience than Obama has."
- and, to joemother below, saying Lincoln helped start the republican party is quite a stretch. sure, he attended the initial 1854 statewide republican convention in Jackson, Michigan, but as a delegate from illinois, not as a power broker who was there to shape the party. so you might as well say that every politician at the delegate level who left their party to join the repbulicans (and thats a lot of people) help start the republican party. soon after this Lincoln began his rise to the top in his party.
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Lurch1 year, 4 months ago
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Obama also is older than Clinton was in 1992, and the cons of course attacked Clinton for his lack of experience. The cons also attacked Clinton for his economic policies, right before the greatest economic expansion post-WWII. The cons (and especially John McCain) attacked Clinton for NOT cutting & running from Somalia.
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These are the same cons who lied about and sexed up the intel to lead us into a counter-productive, deadly, unnecessary, and $3T unfunded war. These are the same cons who said the war would pay for itself, Saddam had WMD, and the iraqis would welcome us with flowers and open arms. These are the same cons who turned a blind eye when Enron was stealing billions from us and when Katrina was killing citizens in and around NO.
Do you cons really expect anybody to believe your judgment after the last one, two, or even three decades??
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Lurch1 year, 4 months ago
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First, she`s got zero national or international experience. Zero. Obama has been in the trenches of the Senate and Illinois legislature for years. That means he knows how to compromise and work with others from both sides of the aisle.
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Palin`s incredibly limited experience is scary. It was reckless and a complete panic of McCain to pick her. She has never has to work with others from the other side of the aisle to write laws. She has never had to struggle to balance a budget (come on, we`re talking Alaska where oil $ flows almost as fast as the corruption). She has never dealt with any govt for that matter outside of Alaska.
She is the most inexperienced candidate for the WH that I have ever heard of.
Besides, where Obama has the orators golden tongue and ability to rouse a nation and bring pride back to our country, kind of like Reagan, McCain has a forked tongue. He has flipped on his own laws, twice!! His own law! Not just some law that he voted for, but laws that he wrote! What kind of judgment is that?! We need someone with the character and integrity to stick by his decisions no matter the audience he is speaking to and no matter the political ambition of the speaker.-
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StillUnashamed1 year, 4 months ago
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"Obama has been in the trenches of the Senate and Illinois legislature for years. That means he knows how to compromise and work with others from both sides of the aisle."
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Please show me where or when Obama compromised and worked with Republicans!
"Palin`s incredibly limited experience is scary." Yet she has much more executive experience than Obama, and she's not running on the top of the ticket as is Obama. The fact that if elected she will be a heartbeat away from the presidency scares you, yet Obama, if elected with no more experience will not be a heartbeat away from being president, he WILL be president, and that doesn't scare you??????-
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jordan111 year, 4 months ago
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Obama has plenty of experience, and more than that, the intelligence for the office. He understands Constitutional law (we ARE a nation of laws), & has ten years experience dealing with running a huge state & a nation. He served as President of the Harvard Law Review, taught law, worked as an attorney, brought health care to thousands in Chicago, and on and on and on. This BS of him not being 'experienced' is just that. BS. And ironically, those who tout this propaganda, voted for a failed business man & governor who allowed his state to become so badly polluted that the federal government had to step in enforce environmental rules. Now you want to elect a person as VP who has a BS in journalism, who has never been anything more than a big fish in a few small ponds. Unbelievable.
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StillUnashamed1 year, 4 months ago
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A lot of words but you still fail to answer the challenge.
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I repeat in response to Lurch's claim that Obama knows how to work across the aisle: Please show me where or when Obama compromised and worked with Republicans!
You say Obama "has ten years experience dealing with running a huge state & a nation." I was unaware that he was Governor of Illinois or had already served as President of this nation. Sorry, Obama did not run Illinois, nor did he run his district, nor has he run this nation. In fact, the only thing he has run is his mouth!-
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Lurch1 year, 4 months ago
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Good, so now we both agree that McCain does not have the experience necessary to be president.
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So, it comes down to character and morals. McCain is senile and has sold his soul to the devil. Obama is a chess master while McCain could not beat a child in checkers without cheating or losing his temper.
Nuff said.
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Lurch1 year, 4 months ago
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> Please show me where or when Obama compromised and worked with Republicans!
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Uh, you`re gonna laugh, but here is President Bush signing a joint Obama and McCain bill:
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog...
How many more lies do you cons need debunked? Be happy to do my part in educating you folks for the good of all.
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Endoscopy1 year, 4 months ago
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I love the way that the liberals are trying to put down Palin for lack of experience while trying to make Obama look good by contrast. Obama in the legislature and Senate is extreme far left wing. He answered present a good part of the time in the legislature. He never did anything about reaching across the isle at any time in his history.
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In fact when a bipartisan group in the legislature wanted to clean up the corruption in Chicago he voted against them and made public statements against them. He voted and spoke for the Daley machine. That is such good bipartisanship.
Another time that reflects his far left wing voting is a vote he tried to deny. He voted against the born alive bill. That was to force abortionists to make their best efforts keep a baby living that ended up being alive when born. What they were doing was putting them on a shelf and letting them die. Such a kind hearted liberal. Such compassion for the defenseless.
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Dottie6541 year, 4 months ago
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McSame has no room to criticize Obama for lack of experience anymore. Pallin has less than 2 years as governor and has been involved in scandals since she took over. She has no foreign relations experience. If by some strange miracle McSame should win, this country had better hope he doesn't die in office as Pallin is in no position to run the country.
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McSame is hoping to pull the unhappy Hillary supporters. Any and all of them who support a woman's choice and Roe v Wade had better think twice before voting for McSame. They would be better off following Hillary's wishes and, in their minds, taking a chance on Obama. At least they can be sure he will support their right to choose. And I think Hillary will make this fact VERY clear.
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automan9091 year, 4 months ago
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Ohhh the rules are different for the Dems.
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It's ok for them to cry racism, call names, insult family members, insult a hero, and whatever they want to do but then they cry like babies when the shoe is on the other foot.
I'm sure that deep down they are crying at the idiots that they have on their ticket right now compared to the Republicans.
Dems are gonna lose again.
If Obama can't handle Hillary on his ticket then he sure will get walked on by the nut job in Iran and Putin.
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mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
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The difference (as if you didn't know) is that you're trying to promote bigotry and spread fear and you should be ASHAMED of yourself. Absolutely ashamed. Do you have children and grandchildren who know how filled with hatred you are for people who are different from you based on their religion? Wow... How do you sleep at night, lady? ;-(
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 4 months ago
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"If by some strange miracle McSame should win, this country had better hope he doesn't die in office as Pallin is in no position to run the country."
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What you won't feel secure in the knowledge that the reigns of power and the doomsday button are in the hands of a hot hockey mom.? -
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Endoscopy1 year, 4 months ago
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And think about the fact that she has more experience that Obama. Your logic is stupid. It shoots down the top of your own ticket. Lay it on harder. Keep it up. Every time you libs talk about Palin and her lack of experience think about the reflection back onto Obama.
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wtagg1 year, 4 months ago
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Please define what you consider experience.
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Obama's and Palin's experience at their current level marginally favors Obama.
Obama's state level experience is greater than Palin's.
The local level is the area that Palin has more.
Obama has much more at the scholastic level.
Frankly, I think that Palin is a gutsy choice for McCain and probably went against his advisor's recommendations, for the most part.
After all the "experience" we have had the pleasure of enjoying for the last 7+ years, a lack of experience might be a refreshing change, from either party. I am tired of those that pursue the status quo.-
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 4 months ago
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You hold on to that thought as Biden rips her a new one in the debates. I understand that you are a staunch republican, but you can't honestly be happy with that pick.
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It just shows that McCain is desperate. You may have been able to make a case for McCain making a race of it prior to his VP choice, but now unless the American electorate is even dumber than I think, McCain's goose is cooked. -
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nightschase1 year, 4 months ago
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Now you're just plain lying. Obama has 8 years in the Illinois state legislature and 3-4 years in the U.S. Senate. Palin has been mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, population roughly 9,000, and 1 1/2 years as governor of Alaska. OH WAIT, I forgot she was a PTA member, so that's what qualifies her to be one step away from the presidency!
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Obama's district in Illinois has a bigger population than Wailla, Alaska, he has national experience, passed ground breaking ethics reform legislation, and fought in an intense, close primary.
Oh, wait, here's the kicker, some quotes from the oh-so ready to lead Palin:
"I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."
"What exactly does the VP do everyday?"
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corl641 year, 4 months ago
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This has really got you worried, doesn't it? You have made this same comment, almost ver batum; at least 6 times, that I have seen. Let me ask you something, maybe this will put your simple mind at ease: when was the last time a sitting president died while in office? Even at 72 years old, these are some long odds.
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LWhee19611 year, 4 months ago
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I agree with Dottie. This risky choice for VP once again shows McCain has poor judgement. The fact is McShame cannot separate himself from his twin, George W. Bush nor can he deny that he voted for Bush policies 90% of the time. How appropriate they will be in the Twin Cities together if Gustav doesn't have other plans. It is very scary to think this woman could be commander-in-chief and she is virtually unknown. As Dottie said, we better hope McCain isn't incapictated or dies if he is elected.
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Bradgrp1 year, 4 months ago
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What Obama has that repugni-cans continuously discount is his exceptional ability to unify people. Obama's experience as a community organizer is the "BEST" experience to have when dealing with the issues that the "people"(not special interest and lobbyists) need addressed. He understands the kitchen table issues that effect the American people. If you try to say that Obama doesn't have any executive experience, where's Mccains' executive experience. When did Mccain run a corporation or government agency? Where does his executive experience come from? Surely you don't think his POW status qualifies as executive experience, do you? He wasn't an admiral in the Navy, he was a commander. That hardly qualifies as executive experience in the lowest of standards. So I ask you again, where is Mccains' executive experience?
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago
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McCain and Obama are CEOs of their respective campaign organizations.
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Which one was better organized?
Which one made better use of the Internet?
Which one undertook and was highly successful with a grassroots movement?
Which one launched a virtually unknown senator to becoming his party's candidate for president?
Which one made better use of its finances?
Which one shows the better executive organization?
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mivan41 year, 4 months ago
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Clearly McCain used better use of his finances which were meager compared to the other candidates and he still WON! Grassroots he came from dead last to win. Better organized thats a matter of opinion. I've met allot of people who thought they were organized, but once their plate started to get a little full it was a bust!
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NoWayMan1 year, 4 months ago
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McCain DID NOT use his finances better. In the primary, if he had to run against one single person with any real weight (like Hillary Clinton on the other side of the aisle) he would have been history. instead, he faced off against mike (evolution isn't real) hucakbee, mitt (i'm a mormon/moron) romney and fred (big fat zero) thompson.
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and obviously Obama is better organized. You'd have to be brain-dead to think otherwise.
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RangerBob1 year, 4 months ago
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NoBama did what?
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He did crap. His handlers did this.
Just like GW got us into a war and caused Katrina and made oil prices sky rocket. Bull, Bush did nothing without the Democratic congress' permission and blessing.
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spkguy1 year, 4 months ago
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Klarissa, have you ever seen the Lincoln memorial?
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago
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Klarissa, don't know where you'd have to go to look it up, but the so-called "Greek temple" prop was also used in the 2004 RNC. I remember seeing photos of Bush standing in front of the pillars recently, but don't remember where. And Bush could hardly be called a Greek orator.
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The nomination of a minority candidate for president is a historical milestone. To my mind, It was proper that it be witnessed by as many Americans as possible, and apparently I'm not the only one who felt this way. There were 84,000 people in the stadium and 38 million people watched it on TV -- a record, according to Nielsen.
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StillUnashamed1 year, 4 months ago
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It didn't matter whom McCain picked. You all would be saying the exact same thing with the same jabs and insults, just taylored to whomever he selected as a running mate.
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You probably already had all the arguments typed out and were just waiting for a name to fill in the blank!-
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jordan111 year, 4 months ago
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I could say that about your playbook that says prop up whomever he picks. And if this isn't proof of that, I don't know what is. LOLOLOL! Ya'll are comical any more. Can't take any of you seriously! You''ve turned your political intelligence into one loooong joke!
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AntiNeoCon1 year, 4 months ago
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Klarissa - she is a great speaker - really connects with people
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Really, I thought she was shrill and sounded like someone dragging chalk
across a blackboard. She is good enough to govern a small town though, I will give her that. But what happens to the good ole USA if McCain dies or has to retire due to health problems. We would be in a really bad situation.
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Dionys1 year, 4 months ago
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You'd think if they were going to pick a complete unknown with zero experience relative to the Presidency (because that's what it's really about) or for that matter the VP that they'd have more than a handful of Repugnant Cons to pick from that didn't have scandal and Big Oil attached to them like lampreys.
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Mutainia1 year, 4 months ago
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Americans no longer seem to pick people based on experience or intelligence. They now seem to pick people based on race, gender, empty promises, or, hair thickness. Being so the case, it's really still up in the air now on who becomes president this November.
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abntv1 year, 4 months ago
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Whatever networks you are looking at are wrong.
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Todd Palin is a blue collar worker for a oil patch support company...
Sarah Palin is not being investigate...she has already made numerous statements regarding the issue....
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NoWayMan1 year, 4 months ago
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he's not a blue collar worker.
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he's was a production manager for BP. not out in the field.
he's no longer with BP btw.
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spkguy1 year, 4 months ago
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GOVENOR Sarah Palin From Alaska under investigation
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPTMcs8wpHc_respons...
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spkguy1 year, 4 months ago
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"Sarah Palin has no scandal attached to her...."
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mmmmm...Not so fast!
GOVENOR Sarah Palin From Alaska under investigation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPTMcs8wpHc_respons...
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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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The Palin pick is a desperation play, but not necessarily panic. It can energize the base... I don't think it'll catch many extra voters, but the base is more likely to turn out with a historic VP choice and a strong pro life record. Not a bad move in alot of respects.
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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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Yup. The more I learn about Palin's social stances, the less I like her. The more I learn of some fiscal things she's done, the more I like her (though I still am well to the left of any Republican and most, if not all, Dems on economics). She's not a hypocrite, which is great to see in politics, but the social issues are a huge turn-off to me. It'll turn out the base, though, which is what McCain needed. Since she's fought off the state party, she's also got a bit of a centrist maverick image to compliment McCain's as well. Its not bad, best he could of done I think.
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wtagg1 year, 4 months ago
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If you have ever been to Alaska, drilling is encourage by the vast majority. Alaskans tend to look at how big the state is an see drilling as a wee small part of the resource and risk to the overall state.
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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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No, I respect someone who appears to be a true fiscal conservative. The current Republicans aren't. Personally, I'd expand most of our social programs significantly, institute a single payer health care system, pour money into alternative energy development, am extremely pro-union and I believe that corporations have to much power in our government by a huge amount. I don't disagree with drilling for oil, but that's not a left/right issue. It has nothing to do with collectivist economics as opposed to free market economics, you see. Though I do believe that if we drill for oil the people of the country should profit directly from it, not a select few companies. Its the people's resource and the people should profit.
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I like her fiscal policies for the simple fact that she isn't corrupt. I can respect and even like a proper fiscal conservative. Not a corrupt one. If you can find corruption on the fiscal level, my opinion will be amended. I don't think her trooper-gate scandal really counts, it seems minor though she displayed poor judgment with it, IMO.
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Lurch1 year, 4 months ago
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The public should never lose ownership of OUR oil.
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The govt should have open public bidding auctions and give the contracts to whichever company comes in lowest. We either reduce the price at the pump by a huge amount or get medicare paid for free with the profits.
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Teech1 year, 4 months ago
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I hope Palin is not richer than Cindy. If she is filthy rich, and Cindy gets sick and goes to the hospital, she'll wind up without a husband.
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He did it once, he'll do it again.
Having crashed 5 airplanes, I hope the Navy doesn't expect him to land on a carrier and proclaim "mission accomplished" - unless, of course, the Navy wants to get rid of an old carrier.-
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ningyo1 year, 4 months ago
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thats what she has fought against and won and thats why her approval is now over 90%--all day i listened to the left-wing nut radio portray her as the mayor of a city of 5000 with no mention of her other credentials..flat out fear mongering left wing stalanist/alinsky attack mode smear..this is a decent woman with a real history that the people in flyover america will relate to-she will crush biden
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wtagg1 year, 4 months ago
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And how is this different than what is provided by those on the other side of the radio dial?
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roosterlady12551 year, 4 months ago
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I live in Illinois and I along with MANY MANY other are not at all proud of living in the highest taxed state in the union. Unforetunately it is too expensive to move. Obama represents Illinois ( from the times) who would want a president that has no experience in anything but TAX AND SPEND In Cook (crook county known to most here) the sales tax is 11% in Chicago 11%!!!!!! they say it is to help those in need! Now they are crying because there is such a deficite and they will need to raise taxes again to make up for the mistake they made raising taxes. Sound familiar? The south side of Chicago has the highest crime rate. You cannot go outside your house after dark unless you have a death wish. Where is Michelle and Obama? Why are they not helping the people they represent?
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MajJohn1 year, 4 months ago
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This is not new, Cook County has been a cesspool for a long time. Thirty years ago a black friend and I were assigned to go to the South side of Chicago. I did not understand why he refused to go until I got there and got my car stoned. Picking a Spanish partner was not much better.
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automan9091 year, 4 months ago
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And now all you Hillary supporters that were insulted by Obama during the primary with his insults towards people clinging to guns and bibles like something is wrong with that, people that are insulted at how Obama played the race card against Hillary and Bill Clinton, insulted at how you were made to feel like racists if you didn't vote for Obama can vote for Republican change that is not Socialism.
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We welcome your votes.
Elect a true American Hero, and a highly respected WOMAN based on her history of being a Governor of a State. EXPERIENCE. Not an empty suit like Obama and Biden, a man that always lost early in every Presidential election he ever ran in. -
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jordan111 year, 4 months ago
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Great VP pick for McCain. Absolutely great! That is all I have to say.>>>>
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LMAO! Of course it's all you have to say! There's nothing to back it up! hahahahaha! Oh dang, my stomachs sore from laughing yesterday. I'd better go on to other threads now.-
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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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I thought it would be lethal at first... but now I'm laughing with everyone else. Particularly when I learned McCain never vetted her... do we want someone with such poor judgment in the White House who didn't even vet there own VP? Now he's sent people out to Alaska due to the trooper-gate issue because he didn't know about it. He spoke with her once, just once, prior to the selection.
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4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago
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You know one thing I've noticed here on Propeller and trust me, I love to try and read every post on a topic if I have the time, is that a vast majority of the time when either presidential or vice-presidential candidate on either side is mentioned here, it is the democrat, liberal or left side of the politically leaning crowd that just finds it almost impossible not to be able to mention the candidate without adding some kind of epithet to the spelling for what reason is beyond me.
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Some from the right participate in this as well but nearly to the amplitude as the left.
Is this a demonstration of their wit? Is this a demonstration of their anger to disrespect someone they have never personally met? Or could it be something deeper, more cynical?
I decided to investigate this phenomena and was astounded at what I found.
I ran a search on Google on "overuse of epithets" and here was the second listing:
http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/pages/S/O/Soc...
Interestingly it's called Socialist Realism.
Go figure. Made for some enlightening reading to say the least.
So in order to be as fair as possible I checked the first listing. It was a book called "Rhetoric and Oratory". I was astounded to read a passage the author wrote and I quote:
"The overuse of epithets, or a uniformly brilliant style should be avoided, or the epithets will lose their force and there will be no room left for contrast."
So it began to become clear to me that what the root cause of this behavior is the compulsion to thirst for brilliance. When in fact because they tend to over indulge themselves they actually create their own hinderance to come across as credible due to the lack of contrast.
Anyway, just an observation. I may do some more research and if so, I'll post again.
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4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago
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Thanks MajJohn,
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Hoping this might tone down some of more inimical comments posted on here.
I have given all the candidates in this election their due consideration and I will do the same with her.
It would be nice to believe we could deliberate here without the threat of being banned or attacked for one's beliefs.
Have a nice evening.
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 4 months ago
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That is a good observation.
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I'm going to keep calling him McLame though, because that pails in comparison to morally bankrupt Cons who do not bother to hold elected officials ACCOUNTABLE after so much talk about bringing HONOR and INTEGRITY back to the White House.
I guess refusing to allow Congress to do its oversight job is what Cons meant.
Interestingly, it's called the Con Culture of Lies and Incompetence.
Guess which branch the above policy came out of? You might be pleasantly surprised.
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Proud1 year, 4 months ago
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All you can do is throw insults & name call but the "PANIC" is not comming from the Mcain camp it is in the Obama/Biden campain bus cause they have no answer for this & no way to attack this woman that will not backfire & turn voters Mcains way. Mcain just hit a HomeRun.
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NoWayMan1 year, 4 months ago
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this move won't pick up any real hillary supporters since real hillary supporters are pro-choice and palin is not. and thats a HUGE sticking point.
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and when I hear things like McCain only met her once before choosing her as his running mate, it confirms my suspicion that palin was not his first choice, or his second, or his third.
which means a few people simply turned down the offer (or in romney's case, simply wouldn't be helpful to the campaign ) and thats not good.
you cons can keep trying to convince yourselves that this is a great choice. but its a pretty easy call. palin isn't a great choice. she just might have been the only choice left.-
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 4 months ago
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“There is no evidence to suggest panic on the part of the Republicans."
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I think that is primarily because, as of late, the republicans have proved themselves to be too stupid to panic. Their support for the most incompetent president of all time, their support for an illegal and immoral war, etc., etc.,. Need I go on? I'm sure you've heard it all before.
It could only be considered as a brilliant move, if the up coming elections were to become a beauty pageant where the winner is decided by which group presents the best photo op. If you can’t see that McCain’s choice was made for the most transparent and shallow of reasons, perhaps now would be a good time to book that appointment with your optometrist.
I can just see the look on McCain’s face, when at the end of the Democratic convention, Obama and Biden had their family and friends around them on centre stage. I can just hear him croaking out for some lackey to find him a family and some friends.
You can’t honestly believe that just because Palin is a woman, she will automatically get the support of Hillary’s people. I’ve got news for you. Just as Osama and Saddam were not one and the same person, Hillary and Sarah are not interchangeable. Hillary’s supporters supported her ideals. Palin’s credentials and ideals are diametrically opposite. If you think Hillary’s supporters won’t notice the difference, you are probably living the life of a lonely old bachelor.
And I don’t know about you, but I know I’m going to sleep much better knowing that if McCain where to suffer some sort of medical emergency, that a somewhat photogenic soccer mom will have her finger poised on the doomsday button.
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MajJohn1 year, 4 months ago
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There is no evidence to suggest panic on the part of the Republicans. This was a brilliant move and will enhance further McCain's lead. Look at the polls now and then a week later. You'll get the drift and some of you will not like it.
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BrianFin1 year, 4 months ago
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So Dramatic Hosehead,
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You're just mad because we now have you surrounded. McCain to the south and Palin to your north. You know she is a gun-toting life member of the NRA, an excellent marksman and she may just snow-mobile down and takeover your country you goofy Canuck. The fact that she is a woman is only a bonus to her impeccable charachter and track record.
The real bad move here is when Obama chose Biden for V.P. , an outspoken hot-head with a history of blunders and irrational decisions. What in the world was he thinking? An old white guy with 30 years in Washington, talk about a transparent and shallow reasoning, "the party of change?" I don't think so!
Unless of course your talking about taxing the middle-class into poverty. That would be a change. Hey I know, let's ridicule McCain for owning several homes. Owning real estate is a bad thing? Why is it that Dems always attack successful people. I think we all know the answer to that.
And what in the WORLD are you talking about McCain's picking a woman as a vice president. Obama has been playing the race card from DAY ONE! No one wants to talk about that. 98% of polled Blacks say that they are going to vote for Barrack Obama.... You would never get those same kind of numbers from Whites when asked if they are voting for McCain. Sad but TRUE.
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earlofplanes1 year, 4 months ago
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well ,I don't know about you ,but I know I'd sleep much better secure in the knowledge that a "photogenic soccer mon" who is concerned about her childrens and other loved ones futures while that finger is poised over the doomsday button ....rather than a "failed" career politician who is after making a name for himself /getting his name in the history books.
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ningyo1 year, 4 months ago
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thats what she has fought against and won and thats why her approval is now over 90%--all day i listened to the left-wing nut radio portray her as the mayor of a city of 5000 with no mention of her other credentials..flat out fear mongering left wing stalanist/alinsky attack mode smear..this is a decent woman with a real history that the people in flyover america will relate to-she will crush biden
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CommonSense501 year, 4 months ago
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What does a governor from Alaska know about the lower 48 states' problems??? What does she know of job layoffs, illegal immigrants, crime or whatever in the contiguous states? Also, what foreign policy experience does sue have? She is a BAD, panic-induces choice and the LAST person to be in the White House. McCain is grasping at straws, but he could have (and should have) done a better job of picking a running mate. Frankly, NEITHER are good for this country. I would like to see a woman as President BUT A QUALIFIED woman - not someone selected JUST because of gender.
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BrianFin1 year, 4 months ago
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Puuulllleease - You have the gall to bring up Gender?! How about RACE? The Dems have been playing the race card from day one. Think about it... 98% (and I'd like to meet the other 2%) of Blacks say that they are voting for Obama. How ridiculous. This is what the Democratic Party has had to resort to... built-in automatic race votes to get close to winning the Presidency. You would NEVER see Whites with those numbers when asked about a White candidate. How many times have you heard something about "making history" in Osama's campaign? What a shame, placing importance of making "history" with a semi-black president, instead of placing emphasis on the real issues that will direct affect our future, and all along claiming that this campaign is not about "me" but the American people. What a bunch of blind sheep to walk into this scam. I am shocked at the ignorance of the masses to fall for such a snow job. You should try to live up to your name and use some.....
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proamerican19431 year, 4 months ago
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I HAVE A DREAM !!!!-LET'S ELECT O-BANG-A=I BANGA YOU. LET'S GIVE UP OUR CIVIL LIBERTY'S--COMMUNISIM SOUNDS GREAT-CALL EACH OTHER COMRADE--GIVE UP ALL THE FIREARMS IN PRIVATE HOMES--GIVE US A MILITARY STATE- CAN I GET AN "A-MEN" ===WE DON'T WANT TO WORK-PLEASE GIVE US A HAND OUT===EARN OUR OWN WAY / BE SELF REPONSIBLE=== WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ALL ABOUT===SEND A BUS TO PICK US UP== CAN I GET ANOTHER "A-MEN"-- PLEASE==WHAT DO THEY MEAN I NEED TO EARN MY EDUCATION, BUT THAT WOULD MEAN I WOULD HAVE TO STUDY "HARD" POOH THATS WORK== OH NO,NO,NO NOT FOR USE= YOU NEED TO LOWER THE GRADING SYSTEM FOR ME. WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO LIVE UP TO STANDARDS SET BEFORE ME. HUH??
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proamerican19431 year, 4 months ago
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DEAREST MMRHE==WHAT'S THERE TO STUDY!!!! ONLY BLIND PEOPLE NEED SEEING EYE DOG'S =========IF YOU CAN STILL READ I GUESS YOU STUDY A BIT ABOUT HUMAN HISTORY== IT'S SITLL HERE TODAY STAREING YOU IN THE FACE== ALL OVER THIS PLANET== IT WOULD APPEAR YOU DON'T SPEND MUCH TIME DOWN IN THE HOOD.
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twosharks1 year, 4 months ago
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You liberals are a complete joke!
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Obama preaches change, then gets a 36 yr political insider for VP.
McCain picks someone who actually represents change, who has demenstrated that she will go after wrong - even within her own party, and Obama attacks her.
This just proves that Obama does not represent change, just more partisan politics.
Obama calls her a "big oil" insider because her husband is a union oil worker?
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jadeona11 year, 4 months ago
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CHANGE ? Obama is still old school politics when he picked Joe Biden same old 30 year 3rd liberal seneaor. They have no executive experience and nothing to hang there hat on. They are so scared of Mccains pick they know this is a tough road and Biden will be no match for her in the debates. She has a great track record as Govenor with a 80% approval rating that is unheard of so I say this is REAL CHANGE not the change biden and obama want to leave in your pocket after there taxes. Go Mccain
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ic0n291 year, 4 months ago
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McCain should have been more responsible choosing a vice president. This is a democracy and more than 18million people decided that Obama was more than qualified to be president regardless of the fact that he lacks some of the useless experience some of these politicians acquire in which nothing is learned after years and years in office. We don't get to choose the vice president so it absolutely crucial that the nominee chooses one that most people would agree is qualified. Obama displayed good judgment by choosing Biden as his vice president. McCain on the other hand chooses this completely unknown woman who we know nothing about, who has spent only two years as governor and is under an ethics investigation for abusing her power as Alaskan governor. Honestly if she had ran for president we would have taken her as seriously as we did Al Sharpton. "Country first" was a joke after all, and winning this election is all that matters to McCain. My attitude about this election was that if Obama lost, we'd be getting "4 more years of Bush", a horrible prospect but I'm living with it now. McCain has shown he is actually more stupid than Bush, just as much a war monger, and this nation’s current problems can only get worst under his administration. I don't know whether to laugh at McCain or shed tears for my country's possibly bleak outlook.
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