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Posted By Neophile 1 year, 3 months ago in NewsThis woman is a female George Bush. Here is Palin's response to a candidate questionnaire for the Alaska 2006 gubernatorial race.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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I'm certain every self-respecting Democrat knew the year that the Pledge was written, knew it was written by a Socialist (and why wouldn't Dems know that?), and knew that "under God" was added in the 1950s.
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Of course they do! Not.
Why am I not surprised at the source nor the submitter nor the comments herein. Gotta have something to throw at Palin, right?-
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Ratskii1 year, 3 months ago
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Mind reading again? Sure you can guess what each and every poster on this thread knows and doesn't know. I also knew when the "under God" was added. I've actually mentioned it on propeller before. While I didn't remember off the top of my head the year it was written, I knew it was somewhere in the mid to late 19th century. Wow, I'm more knowledgeable of American history than the republican vice presidential nominee. Amazing.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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And there is the silliness of the whole thing, Rat.
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So she made a comment about the Pledge of Allegiance and now knuckleheads want to suggest that she's dumb or that they know more about history than she does. Amazing.
Since you're so smart about history, try telling the Wonder Boy that there are only 50 states, not 57.
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memestryker1 year, 3 months ago
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I agree, SOTM, it's pretty silly.
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All of the candidates have mostly good track records, IMO. It's mostly which issues I deem most important that ultimately drives my vote in the end.
100% of the people who have ever run for office or posted to propeller have committed gaffes--or, as you Christians might put it, "come short of the glory of G-d." (Romans 3:23)
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deSul1 year, 3 months ago
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Palin introduced herself as a stay at home soccer mom. She was probably part of the PTA, baked cupcakes and attended class trips to the zoo. There is nothing wrong with that. However, the women that most females identify with can not afford to stay at home while hubby goes to work. She has a pregnant daughter, a special needs child, and other younger children. Are you saying that now there will be a roll reversal and the husband will stay home? I applaud her for being a whistle blower (in my neighborhood, whistle blowers are called snitches, trouble makers, etc) and it is the easiest way to make it to the "black list". I think Ms. Palin should stay home and take care of her family and if she is really serious about the V.P. in a few years she should hook up with a real winner like Hillary who could really show her the ropes.
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memestryker1 year, 3 months ago
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She's been active politically since 1992 and minored in political science in college. She has worked side-by-side with her husband in the fishing industry, although not officially "employed." I like the fact that she has a special needs child and a pregnant daughter. It makes her seem more human, and I think it adds to her understanding of the issues families face.
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I disagree with her religious views, but I believe in separation of church and state, and I've always voted for people whose religious beliefs I didn't share (I don't believe in the supernatural).
It will come down to the issues for me, since I'm not completely comfortable with either pair, while I really like some aspects of both.
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memestryker1 year, 3 months ago
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I pos'd you, SOTM--we've had several discussions about this on propeller in the past, where the vast majority of posters were unaware of this--both repubs and dems. I always encourage them to find the old Porky Pig cartoon. "Old Glory," that predated the change.
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"Under God" was added when the repubs controlled the White House and both houses of congress, during the Eisenhower administration, and was a response to the "anti-God" message of communism. -
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Nothing_Tangible1 year, 3 months ago
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SonOfTheMask
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I'm certain every self-respecting Democrat knew the year that the Pledge was written, knew it was written by a Socialist (and why wouldn't Dems know that?), and knew that "under God" was added in the 1950s.
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While I cannot declare what any Democrat or other person may know about the Pledge, it is fairly common knowledge the Pledge did not exist in the late 1700s. Most grammer school kids probably know the Pledge did not exist until 100 years later. Certainly ANY person that keeps abreast of the latest news would know "under God" was not in the original Pledge. The whole issue of when "under God" was added and if it violated separation of church and state was addressed just a few years ago by the Supreme Court.
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memestryker1 year, 3 months ago
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I'm sorry to hear this, but most people I've ever asked also didn't know--many with advanced education. Most people born after something happens or who were young when a change occurred are not aware of it unless it comes up in some other context.
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In a country where 85% of people believe in a supernatural deity, and 65% believe in demons, nothing surprises me.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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Hey, she makes him look like a genius and a saint. Maybe that is the intention here.
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He cannot stand next to Obama and look at all presidential, but next to Palin well maybe... it`s only been 72 hours and the skeletons are coming out of the Earmark Queen`s closet like an avalanche.
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donald511 year, 3 months ago
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Dwight always said to contain the USSR and eventually it would collapse on itself.... but you revisionist history fools like to give reagan credit there!
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Dwight also warned us of the evils of the military industrial complex - the last honest repug!-
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kobzikov1 year, 3 months ago
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Refusing to grant someone the principle of charity is about as good as admitting that you have no interest in understanding the person's statements and that you are only interested in twisting their words to your own irrational interpretation.
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Not to mention, that your comment is both a red herring and an ad hominem tu quoque fallacy. -
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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And that was `truly` national because she bought scrub rolls from Texas to use to deny legal voters their right to vote.
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Good ol` Katherine, we tried to warn you cons, but no, you would not listen. And look at how quickly you all dropped her after sending her to Congress. You should be ashamed of yourselves!
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smlsaimin1 year, 3 months ago
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Its very sad to see these "liberal pukes" taking on a young lady who sees good in our country.
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The Founding Fathers were proud Americans and I am sure they would have instituted a pledge of Allegience to our Country.
I like what John Jay, First Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court said: "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty. . .of our Christian nation (I believe we still are) to select and prefer Christians for their rulers. ."
With that I am proud to be an American to have John McCain as my next President of the United States. Obama is a fake Christian who opposes God's standard of life (prolife) and keeping marriage between one man and one woman.-
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aceofspades11 year, 3 months ago
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smisaimin - you are a disgrace as an American - America is a pluralistic society & to put one faith above another as leaders of this great country is no better than speaking as an Islamic Fundamentalist, whom I am sure you abhor & I abhor you sir.
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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aceofspades1; You have just spit on what this country stands for. NEVER did the framers of the Constitution,or those who signed it, intend for this to be a 'christian nation.' We were not intended to be a theocracy, bound by your interpretations of 'god' as you would have it. Shame on you. I mean that, literally. Shame on you for not having a CLUE about what our founders fought for.
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AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago
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Gee - Chief Justice Jay sure puts the lie to that oft repeated
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oratory about any child in America , if they study and work hard,
can achieve anything - no opportunity denied in America to those
who excell. The content of their character would be as nothing
unless they praised Jesus? It is not the way I was taught - it
is not the way I think it should be. I cannot tell you how much I
disagree with the statements of Mr. Jay.
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teesme4501 year, 3 months ago
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A person who sets religion above political aspiration is a closed minded person and must not lead a nation with people having different kinds of faith. John McCain is against helping the poor and in need. He graduated at the bottom of his class in the Military Academy. His mentality reflects on his decision and choosing a VP unknown to many as an example. On the other hand, Obama is brilliant, and is for equality.
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Nothing_Tangible1 year, 3 months ago
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Its very sad to see these "liberal pukes" taking on a young lady who sees good in our country.
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The Founding Fathers were proud Americans and I am sure they would have instituted a pledge of Allegience to our Country.
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Well then... As long as YOU are "sure they would have instituted a pledge" its all good. But, the FACT is, they DID NOT institute ANY sort of pledge. I'm sure you think having the rest of their lives to come up with one has no bearing on the FACT they NEVER did come up with a pledge!
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AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago
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What are they going to teach in Sunday School if Creationism
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is taught in public schools? Isn't that what religious education -
at CHURCH - was designed for? I have so little tolerance for
this movement to merge Christianity with our civil society that
I sometimes cannot relate to the subject at all - and when I can?
I bounce from anger to fear. Fear that well-educated people who
consider themselves patriotic seem ready, willing and able to
destroy such a vital part of our cherished heritage.
What was quoted above from Chief Justice Jay, and too much
of what I hear from our religious AND political leaders insures
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Tess411 year, 3 months ago
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Anteup,
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You mention a "civil" society. Where does the basis of civility come from? While church should be kept from state...following the "guide lines" (trans: commandmants) of the bible is what our declaration and constitution is based on.
We need an ethic taught at our schools and if you can find another *writing* that can truly teach children right from wrong (since many parents aren't doing so,) then please share it. I'd like to read it.-
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Nothing_Tangible1 year, 3 months ago
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We need an ethic taught at our schools and if you can find another *writing* that can truly teach children right from wrong (since many parents aren't doing so,) then please share it. I'd like to read it.
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Well Tess... now that you mention it, there IS an excellent document or Declaration about "civil" society which can be taught AND it has NOTHING to do with the Bible or any other religious based text.
Check it out here.... http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html
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AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago
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Tess41 ~
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Human beings are capable of formulating ethics and morals
without prefacing them with "Thou Shalt Not" - it IS possible.
I think it has more to do with a feeling of moral superiority
than it does teaching appropriate behaviour. I do not need
the Good Book to teach my children that theft,cruelty and
murder are not acceptable - and neither do our public schools.
Ethics can be taught - maybe not LEARNED - but they can
be taught in our schools without religious overtones.
If you care to put a religious spin on your personal or
familial interpretation.................that's what home and church
are for - feel free to take advantage of the American right
to Freedom of Religion. That's the guarantee - NOT that
you can dictate to all. You are allowed to worship freely
and instruct your children in the tenets of your faith.
But not necessarily MY children too.
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donald511 year, 3 months ago
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PC, the idiot, can't even get the number right! It was 57 and includes all the territories where the repugs have sweat shops that make things marked with "made in America" and the repugs made sure the min wage doesn't apply there! Saipan, home of forced prostitution and forced abortion... for the repug greed! JC Penney hasn't even agreed out of court with the 25,000 unnamed claiments from the 2002 case - claimants unnamed to avoid retribution!
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REPUGS, the party of absolute greed... all a governor has to do to be a success in Alaska is let big oil do whatever it wants! Look at Ted Stevens and the former corrupt governor Murkowshi ( I beleive i'm close on the name). Not only Ted's indictments, but his telling the big oil CEOs during the Repug Congress they didn't even have to swear to tell the truth - they didn't!
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Drill-Master1 year, 3 months ago
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You liberals need to come to grips with a reality. Your Obama is an empty suit. Stands for nothing but getting elected. Votes "Present" instead of taking a stand. Waits for the outcome and then stands up. In other words, he waits for Monday and discusses Sundays game. Has an admitted terrorist, a racist minister and a convicted criminal for allies/friends. This is going to be a very long and hard year for you all. You are grasping at straws, deal with it.
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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Here ya go. Just a starter on mccain's record:
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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> Votes "Present" instead of taking a stand.
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you would not know integrity if it bit you, would ya? If a guy does not know enough about a bill, you would suggest he just vote the party line or just not bother showing up at all like McCain, who has missed the most votes of any Congress person. McMagoo.
> Has an admitted terrorist, a racist minister and a convicted criminal for allies/friends.
This admitted terrorist who was released by the Feds and never hurt a fly? Oh, that `terrorist`? Compare him to any of the PNAC clowns, the lobbyists running McCain`s campaign, or those in the Bush admin.
Hagee? Parsley? which racist minister are you talking about? Convicted criminal for allies/friends? You mean Bush`s buddy Rezko, Abramoff, Keating Five (oh wait that was McCain himself), Cindy McCain ( oh wait, she`s rich so she never got charged with grand theft, forgery, abuse of controlled substances, etc), and so on.
Gimma a break. For every smear attempt you have on Obama, there are multiple legitimate attacks on McCain. I hope you are able to see the truth soon. Our nation needs to get away from the divide and smear politics of Rove and stand united against enemies both foreign and domestic.
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Drill-Master1 year, 3 months ago
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You liberals need to come to grips with a reality. Your Obama is an empty suit. Stands for nothing but getting elected. Votes "Present" instead of taking a stand. Waits for the outcome and then stands up. In other words, he waits for Monday and discusses Sundays game. Has an admitted terrorist, a racist minister and a convicted criminal for allies/friends. This is going to be a very long and hard year for you all. You are grasping at straws, deal with it.
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miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
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That's ok. This link has moving pictures.
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https://pol.moveon.org/donate/gettowork.html?r=401...
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teesme4501 year, 3 months ago
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drill master, either you are a diehard Republican or you do not want to face reality.
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Obama is for Americans regardless of who he come across with. Obama is for justice and truth. Obama is brillant vs McCain is not. Now, do you want another George Bush (McCain) run this Country?
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JimmyLee11 year, 3 months ago
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I swear to the Intelligent Design God that McCain is the captian of the TITANIC. His support will continue to jump ship as the vetting and evaluations of his judgement come to light. It will go on and on. It is going to be an epic saga studied by political science classes for generations to come.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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This VP candidate has got to be the least vetted candidate in the history of our country. I cannot believe the mountain of skeletons already coming out of the closet.
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Diwiser1 year, 3 months ago
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Well what do you expect the mother is still having children in her 40's so she is not teaching her children birth control. It is said she believes schools should teach absentience. It didn't work out so well in her family. I can think of better and more experienced woman for VP if that is all the Republicans are worried about. It is scary that it McCain in elected and something should happen to him that she would be in charge! Die hard religious group will vote for her. Most organized religion is organized hatred and they forget love thy neighbor unless it is useful to them. I am a child of the 50's and mixed marriage and it was hell. You don't need to be in church to belive in God and push your beliefs on people. The past 8 years this administration has single destroyed the middle class so people wake up and vote with your brain. Republican=Rich Oil Corp. and the Taxless Rich
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Tess411 year, 3 months ago
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Why is it that some very intelligent sounding people here- calling themselves Democrats or Liberals......haven't figured out that it's not the governments job to wholly educate our children. It is not the government's job to bail you out of your bad choices in life. It is not the governments job to take *care* of everyone. The government's job is to represent the people of this country and to protect our citizens from threat. NOT PARENT the citizens.
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The government should stay away from abortion and charity. Our non-profit organizations an churches do much more than the government anyhow. Abortion is a private matter--between you and your maker. The government needs to offer up school vouchers--those that want the education will get one. Those that don't, won't. We'll also find the true teachers in a heartbeat.-
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Beau78901 year, 3 months ago
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The preamble to the US Constitution spells out what the government's job is meant to be. Among the functions listed there is "...promote the general Welfare..."
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I'd say both providing an education and a temporary safety net for those who've fallen into hard times fall under the category of promoting the general welfare.
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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Let's start with education. The founders most certainly did recognize the necessity of it to keep ourselves free. And they recognized that the government had to guarantee it was available to ALL....rich and poor. http://www.monticello.org/reports/quotes/education...
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chicky19531 year, 3 months ago
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I don't know I just wish if we were going to have a black President that it would be Colin Powell or Condi Rice, I truly admire the both of them, no baggage with Condi or colin that I know of.But, since it is not, I am stuck with Maccain, even the same is better than someone who can't make up his mind or do a simple speech unless one of his people write it for him, and thoses muslim root's scare me away. 143 day's as a senator is not enough expierence, now Biden, good choice, maybe if Obama get's elected something good will happen and we will get Biden as our President. My freedom of Speeh right's. I do not trust Barack Hussein Obama, the Ayers, his rev. wright for 20 years,Tony Rezko, that thng with Larry Sinclair, no respect for unborn babies, his thinking we have 57 states( way off, that's the middle east, muslims)our predident should really know how many states he will be in command of!! Get real hear. You all just like his looks and pretty speeches written by his advocates. It takes more than pretty looks and pretty ords to win me over. In these day's of war and misery our new President best better know how to deal with thAt stark reality and have both feet planted on the ground. O, I forgot, you don't believe in war, or our faithful troopers who risk their lives for us. Would you rather the middle east brough the war over here? Would that make you feel more safe? I did not think so. You forget Obaa has family over there. Stepdad and half sister. and only God know's who else. Me, I am america to the bone and cme from an Army family, Yup army brat.And proud of it, God Bless America and what it stands for.
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RCHIII1 year, 3 months ago
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That was one of the most difficult "paragraphs" to get through in my life. I did it, but now I've got a little head-ache.
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As for what you said. Simply rattling off all the B.S. you hear every day on FOX news isn't going to cut it. Not for the part of the population that can actually think for themselves. You can tell us again and again that his middle name is Hussein and it still won't make him a terrorist. You can keep talking about his "Muslim roots" to try to frighten people but it will STILL not make him a terrorist. Especially when you go on to complain about his Christian Pastor. (Do you see the discrepancy there? I doubt it.)
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"maybe if Obama get's elected something good will happen and we will get Biden as our President" .
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RangerBob1 year, 3 months ago
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I understand exactly what they are saying, and even though I would hate to see that, you have to believe that is a possibility. No one deserves that.
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I hope he doesn't win for many reasons but that is a big one. We don't need to have a race war with everything else going on.
I think we are hurting no matter which one wins.
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chicky19531 year, 3 months ago
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Allegiance of course, I type so fast I tend to misspell or leave out letter's. I pledge allegiance to the flag and to the United Statesof America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god ,indivisible with liberty and justice for all. When I was growing up we said the Lords prayer right after the pledge to america. Back then in the sixties and seventy's things were so much different, kids knew better than to pull the tunts they do now, teenage pregnancis were not very caommon and there was a lot less crime then. But then of course we were afraid of going to hell if we did not obey God's word.And of course our parent's, wow could my mom swing a belt or her hand!!! Needless to say I was a well behaved teen, yup, that army life paid off. All I am saying is maybe she said it wrong, but her heart was in the right place, you can not go wrong believing in God, I do, my family does and we had no teenage pregnancies in my family.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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you sure seem like one of those kool-aid drinkers who truly believes his own BS more than anybody else.
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> Biden son is a crook
George Herbert Walker Bush has two of them, probably three. Same goes for **** Cheney`s Dad.
> Obama gets help with home loan from Felon
Same felon that is one of Rove`s insiders and is such a good Bushies he got invited by the President himself for Christmas Dinner.
> Obama "friends" with murdering radical 60's bomber
Another great example of neocon smearing. Ayers did not even murder a flea. His `terrorist` crimes were so pathetic the govt did not even bother refiling charges against him. McCain is friends with Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld (before McCain flip-flopped) all of whom are considered purveyors of state terror in decent circles. If not from the most powerful country, they would have been brought on intl crimes against humanity years ago.
> Obama sits through hate filled racisr sermons for years
Actually, since you were never there and never walked a day in Wright`s shoes, you have no business saying whether or not it was hate-filled and racist. If Wright`s sermons were hate-filled and racist for years, so were Hagee`s and Parsley`s, whom McCain sought after for a year. Besides, we only know of the one sermon where Wright really went wild, and we also know Obama was not present. Even Huckabee and McCain`s own minister said you cannot hold any of the audience responsible for the minister`s words, and that no audience member agrees 100% with his/her minister.
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shocwave431 year, 3 months ago
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There were videos of Wright preaching hate in his sermons on many more than one occasion. And he did not deny it. Obama belonged to that Church for twenty years and he defended Wright as a friend. If my priest uttered one word of hate in his sermon I would leave within seconds, not twenty years.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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First of all, I only saw one video. RW media rumored there was another. Obama was there on neither occasion, never heard the stuff. Other than that, you got hearsay from people who were not within 1,000 miles of the church trying to broadcast smears.
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Now, you got Hagee with all his videos, his quotes and his hate preaching and prejudice. Where`s your outrage about that? McCain was chasing after haters like Hagee months after Obama had already distanced himself from Wright and the worst of Wright`s sermons. So McCain knew the price of being associated with racist, prejudiced, hate-filled preachers but STILL spent months chasing after and then bragging about his relationship with Hagee. Finally, after months of appearing the hypocrite, McCain finally dropped Hagee.
One candidate has some judgment issues, and it aint the one from Chicago.
> If my priest uttered one word of hate in his sermon I would leave within seconds, not twenty years.
I have left two churches because of hate speech. The interesting thing was that everybody else stayed and never realized the hate speech that was being spewed to them and their families including the little children. In other words, although a lot of people may think they would leave a church, I think most people don`t even notice. The churches I left are still there, and except for the occasional prejudicial hate sermon, they are actually lively and loving groups.
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saneman1 year, 3 months ago
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Does the name Neil Bush ring a bell? ROFLMAO!!! Neil was directly involved in the collapse of the Silverado Savings and Loan Institution resulting in the taxpayers having to pay $1 billion. Oh yeah, in an out of court settlement, Neil paid $50,000.
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RCHIII1 year, 3 months ago
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Is that the best you can do? Just like McCain's comments about Czechoslovakia, the location of the Pakistan border, and who is going into Iran for training. They are misstatements. Get over it! Act like an adult! That goes for you too gopcaseman.
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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More information on that:
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Ratskii1 year, 3 months ago
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The difference between the 57 state thing and the pledge bit is that Obama was speaking off the cuff and misspoke (40...ah 57 states). Palin made her mistake in answering a written questionnaire. The question clearly addressed the Pledge and if the words "under God" should be kept or discarded.
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fsev411 year, 3 months ago
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One thing you have to like about the McCain campaign is that they Give us something new every week, sometimes daily, to show their ineptitude. The poor cons have to keep dragging out the same garbage time and time again. Makes it exciting to wonder what the next gaffe will be from the cons.
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motivator9111 year, 3 months ago
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man you guys are reaching lol, must be scared ! you see a strong intelligent woman with integrity, courage and loyalty running on the republican ticket and reach for anything to try and make her look bad. look there is something you need to understand the closer we get to november the more the truth is going to come out. the true barack obama will emerge. I am an independent who takes serious my vote for elected officials especially the presidential election and obama for numerous reasons is not the right man for the job, not by a long shot .
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journeyboy1 year, 3 months ago
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THE DALY KOS is GARBAGE! IT IS EXACTLY WHAT EVERYONE THAT IS A DEMOCRAT SAYS IT IS. TRASH and DANGEROUS by ALIENATING DECENT DEMOCRATS and INDEPENDENTS like MYSELF!
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IT IS ONE SIDED!
PALIN is a little conservative for me BUT! SHE signed in a DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP BILL for SAME SEX COUPLES and BELIEVES they DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED!
WE NEED MORE REPUBLICANS like this. SHE WILL CHANGE HISTORY when it COMES TO HOW WE ARE TREATED in THE LBGT in THE FUTURE by being EXCEPTED by THE CONSERVATIVE BASE!
OH YEAH! ATTACKING HER MONOR CHILD IS DISGUSTING! LEAVE HER OUT OF IT YOU SCUM BAGS! LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE PERIOD!-
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Beau78901 year, 3 months ago
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Palin on gay marriage, civil unions, and benefits for domestic partners (from the Anchorage Daily News):
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"In October [2005], the Alaska Supreme Court ruled the state couldn't deny spousal benefits to the same-sex partners of public employees. That means that while Alaska has banned gay marriage, it can't withhold, say, health insurance from a state employee's gay partner...."
"Palin said she's not out to judge anyone and has good friends who are gay, but that she supported the 1998 constitutional amendment [to ban gay marriage].
"Elected officials can't defy the court when it comes to how rights are applied, she said, but she would support a ballot question that would deny benefits to homosexual couples."
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rrobin61281 year, 3 months ago
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Dave 59, I am sure there are many people who will help pack your bags to leave? Secondly, to all of you people out there who seem to catch every misstatement made by McCain or the new VP not knowing where the pledge originated, I am sure most people don't? I am a lot more concerned about Obama thinking we have 57 states though?
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rrobin61281 year, 3 months ago
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Dave 59, I am sure there are many people who will help pack your bags to leave? Secondly, to all of you people out there who seem to catch every misstatement made by McCain or the new VP not knowing where the pledge originated, I am sure most people don't? I am a lot more concerned about Obama thinking we have 57 states though?
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motivator9111 year, 3 months ago
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I still recall watching video clips from Joe Biden Hillary and Bill Clinton as well as numerous other democrat politicians and advisors all praising John McCains experience and ability to lead as well as his goal to rid washington of wastefull spending and corruption it seems this gov palin is just like him I believe its a good match.
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journeyboy1 year, 3 months ago
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TO ALL YOU PATHETIC LEFT WING SCARED LITTLE LIBERALS BABIES!
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TWIST PALIN'S words all you want!!!!
She "DID NOT" say the Pledge was Written by the founding fathers did she? "SHE SAID"
If Under God is good enough for OUR FOUNDING FATHERS,
IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER!
YOU SCARED LITTLE LIBERALS KEEP BASHING HER ALL YOU WANT. IT'S ONLY gonna BACKFIRE!
A woman whether you like it or not will hold THE HIGHEST OFFICE in this GOVERNMENT! YOU ARE PETTY! AND TO ALL you FEMINIST shame on you that you would allow your Pettiness, Prejudice and Jealousy to keep her from it. SHAME ON YOU!
GREATNESS is made by someone who has made mistakes but stays in public life to serve the people and the greater good!~ What the hell have any of you done for you're country but criticize a woman, mother, wife, survivor and Governor of The Great State of Alaska who has RICH ideas to improve the lower classes, make us not dependent on foreign fuel and expose corruption in The Republican Party and refused to take money from The BUSH & SKANK CHENEY types!
I don't agree with everything she stands for. BUT SHE WOULD MAKE one HELL OF A VP. And you wait. She will hold her own just fine against BIDEN!!! You know the guy Americans shunned in The 88 and 2008 Presidential Primaries! And Hussein Obama Scum bag ignores the will of 18 million voters for HILLARY! Who earned that TOP SPOT on the ticket let alone The VP spot!-
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journeyboy1 year, 3 months ago
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YOUR THE IDIOT. SHE MEANT the men running the country. This was first floating around in the 1890's ********. We didn't have that many states in the union jerk. So yeah the heads of our government back then. If it was gtood enough for them then it's good enough for her. And she was referring to UNDER GOD.
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Beau78901 year, 3 months ago
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The men running the country were the Founding Fathers in the 1890s?
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but the words "under God" were added to the Pledge of Allegiance in the 1950s.
http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofheroes/1st_floor...
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pcknowledge1 year, 3 months ago
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Palin:
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Said she hasn't focused on the Iraq war yet, when asked what she thinks about it.
Believes in home schooling
Believes in abstract science
Believes in pro life (even in cases when a woman has been raped)
Believes condoms and protection should not be used, and teen pregnancies are normal and acceptable
Wants to take away equal rights for homosexuals
The ultra conservative religious Republican leaders and the Taliban are extending their full support for Palin.
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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I have to admit to being amused at the reaction of liberal Obama supporters to the Palin selection.
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I was totally and pleasantly surprised by the choice of Palin...but the reaction of Obama supporters has bordered on the hysterical!
That kind of says it all as far as I'm concerned. Obama had a chance to choose the candidate that got 18 MILLION votes in the Democrat primaries and dissed her..choosing instead to choose an inside-the-Beltway politician who only got 9,000.
It must be humiliating for the party of indentity politics to be outsmarted..and to see McCain do what they were unwilling to do...nominate a strong smart woman for succession to the White House.
They didn't see it coming...and they don't know how to handle it..except to throw as much silly dirt as they can find.
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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Barack Obama is an empty suit,a shadow without substance, a cynical "say-anything" politician who promises change but only offers slick speeches repackaging old tired policies for new and higher taxes and bigger government that decrease freedom and create dependency and have repeatedly failed in the past.
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He is a celebrity, but no leader.
He maintained long relationships with race baiters and an unrepentant former terrorist..and waffles about those relationships!!
After the surge he opposed in Iraq proved to be a huge success, he still refuses to have the intellectual honesty to admit that he was wrong, and that McCain, who pushed for the surge, was right!!
When we are on the brink of recession,he proposes higher taxes with no thought on how that would devastate our economy. If we aren't in a recession, his tax increases would definitely cause one!!
With energy costs rising and most Americans hurting, he panders to his left-wing extremist base and refuses to consider exploiting ALL our energy resources, including allowing more drilling in our offshore fields!!
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memestryker1 year, 3 months ago
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rads,
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I think both McCain and Obama are good people who want to do the right thing. The devil is in the details.
I think we have people with extreme views who cannot see that the best solutions probably lie somewhere in the middle. I disagree with McCain that kids are better off institutionalized in orphanages than with loving gay families. I disagree with Palin that abortion should only be legal when the life of the mother is at stake. I disagree with Obama and Biden that disarming ordinary citizens will protect them from violence by criminals and corrupt government officials. I disagree with Obama on giving more power to the U.N., that put Libya in charge of human rights, and with most member countries not enjoying the freedom, liberty, and human rights we have in the U.S.
I'm still trying to decide what I think is best regarding the Iraq war. I thought it was a mistake in the beginning, but we are there now. I still think we need to focus energy on Afghanistan and prevent the taliban from crushing the people, especially women, again.
For me, it's still an open election.
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