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Posted By helenephoto 1 year, 3 months ago in NewsBristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children
with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is
going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said
in a statement released by the campaign of Republican
presidential candidate John McCain .
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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Boy, that's funny. Nothing like a little snide elitist Democrat humor, eh?
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I guess the "Clampetts" you mention are probably related to these folks that Obama described for us:
"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or anti-pathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
In fact, gun-owners and religious folk are Palin's kind of people...that's sure to make Barry bitter.-
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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What's really funny is your referral to Democrats as elitist. Bush, McCain, and nearly every Republican politician were born with a silver spoon in their mouths and they have audacity to call Democrats elitist. Perry mason would be proud of the red herrings that the Republicans use to cover their own faults. Mr. MaGoo sure made a blunder with this pick.
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PS If you insist on putting the wrong name in as the Democrat we can return the favor.-
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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You're right lfergie. I should be more precise.
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Instead of "elitist Democrat" let's say "elitist Democrat politicians that supporters insist on having as presidential contenders". Better!
Between..
Barry the Boy Wonder's stiff-necked, highbrow comments including the one above about blue-collar, religious Americans;
Kerry (your last elitist nominee) and his comment about how only stupid poor people have to end up in the military over in Iraq;
Edwards who insisted on the idea of "two" Americas...and then proved it by cheating on his cancer-stricken wife and then lying through his teeth about it...one American for him and one for everybody else;
Kennedy...well, I'll refrain out of respect for his health...
I mean, goodness! Almost makes Hillary look good. Almost. Well, no, not really. At least the Dems finally wised up to ole Slick Willie even if the Hildabeast almost hung on to the nomination...-
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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Son, do you want to go there with Edwards and his cancer stricken wife after the way Newt did his wife. At least Edwards had the decency to NOT go on TV and ask for a divorce from Elizabeth while she was in the hospital. Sometimes we have to chose our battles wisely.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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I did go there...had to be done. The truth, it stings...
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When did Newt run for President? Apples and oranges?
Edwards and decency hardly seem to belong in the same sentence. He cheated on his wife, excused it as being while she was "in remission", tried to hide it while he ran for President. C'mon, really? Really you want to defend him? You should be thanking the National Enquirer for putting out the story. Enquiring minds want to know.-
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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Red herring? What a laugh!!! LOL
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Edwards was ACTUALLY a presidential nominee not ONCE but TWO times!!! When was Newt EVER actually running for president? When did he EVER actually announce as a candidate?
You remind me of those commercials where at the end they say...
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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Get your his facts straight. Edwards is not the presidential candidate for president had never has been. He was the VP candidate sure but not the presidential candidate. As for Newt read this web site.
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http://www.draftnewt.org/
They don't just put these out without the persons approval.-
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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You continue to be...priceless.
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Fact: Edwards ran for the presidential nomination in BOTH 2004 and 2008. In 2004, Kerry selected him as his vice presidential running mate.
Fact: Newt Gingrich was NEVER an official candidate for president. He expressed interest in 2007 but never declared his candidacy.-
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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Newt found out he didn't have a chance even with republicans so he didn't run. LMAO Edwards name was placed in nomination I will buy but he was not the Democratic choice for president so that does not make the attack on Edwards justified when Republicans have done worse. There are way too many skeletons in both parties closets but Edwards is history and to compare him to the present Democrat candidate is ludicrous. More red herrings when the discussion is about Palin's lack of qualification because of her possible cover-up.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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And McCain cheated on his, Craig cheated on his, Rudy cheated on his, and Newt cheated on his wife while leading the lynch mob to get Clinton impeached for the same thing! Like i said, sometimes we need to pick our battles wisely, running for pres or not, they have had very powerful positions.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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Running for president or not, it says a lot about his character, just the same as it does for anyone who cheats on a souse they took for better or worse. Plus it's usually conservatives who bring this topic up first, liberals are generally put on the defensive regarding this.
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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As oppose to a drunk?
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Of all the candidates the Republicans had to chose from they chose a senile old fool. Sorry but his age is showing.
Of all those you mentioned, only Kerry came from a rich family. Now how does one rich presidential candidate make all Democratic candidates elitist. No it's the stuff shirt Republicans that are elitist and the Democrats as a general rule work their way to the top and that really tees off the Republicans. Why they tried to bring down the Clinton's for 8 years with millions of taxpayers dollars and never found anything wrong with Whitewater. Now on the other hand we have Mccain involved with the "Keating Seven" and not a word is heard from the press. "McCain reporting for duty sir"
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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Drunk? You shouldn't talk about your own VP nominee that way...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ
At least he had an excuse for the singing...how about this priceless quip?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll_goH-aivU=related
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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Well, if our VP is a drunk, but i'm not saying he is.. at least our Presidential Nominee isn't.. We've been dealing with a drunk for the last 8 years though, and God only knows what else he has been doing on top of that. TOO many times he couldn't even make a speech that was understandable.
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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I was referring to cheerleader Bush. If you have no problem with voting for Bush whose an alcoholic then you should love to vote for Biden.
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http://gawker.com/5035885/bush-looking-drunk-at-th...
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 3 months ago
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''Kerry (your last elitist nominee) and his comment about how only stupid poor people have to end up in the military over in Iraq;''
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crespi1 year, 3 months ago
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Sorry, Son, but she's a Fundamentalist (connected to "Dominionists") running on the "Family Values" platform, pushing abstinence which is obviously UNSUCCESSFUL and this calls into question her general accuracy and effectiveness for the immense and complex job of running the United States of America.
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Imagine if she were a Democrat...seriously.
CNN and Fox"News" would run it 24/7.
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automan9091 year, 3 months ago
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Thats right. I forgot.
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Democrats have no family values.
70% of blacks are born out of wedlock.
Bill Clinton spent his time in office cheating on Hillary.
Edwards lied to us during his bid for President and cheated on his wife making babies.
Dems think it's ok to murder babies.
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crespi1 year, 3 months ago
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We are not talking about Liberals, automouth, we are talking about the qualifications Sarah Palin, Fundamentalist Christian VP candidate of the United States (from her own mouth), and your deflection techniques are transparent, boring, and illustrate your intellectual bankruptsy when trying to discuss a problem like this.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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First of all, most "hillbillies" are damn fine people that I'd be proud to know. You evidently buy into the stereotype which again speaks volumes about you.
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Second, I wasn't saying that Republicans are "hillbillies". Your pal the Rat man was making a typically snide comment about the Palins vis-a-vis the Clampetts.
Third, get a life.
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CookiesMama1 year, 3 months ago
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To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant - This is not a rumor there is nothing to rebut this is a fact!
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If this was obama the skys would have fallen...now we are being ask to look the other way.
I have to say that it takes away a lot of McCains talking points!
Obama should take the high road on this and watch them seld distruct!
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Natureboy1 year, 3 months ago
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Right. Mustn't look down on those whose family trees have no forks or branches - it would be prideful!
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And good for little Bristol to be knocked up at 16 - she's nearly over the hill for the trailer park crowd -
and iffn she didn't get with child, she'd only be learnin to read, and cipher and such - we don't need that kind of elitist in the Republican party!
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rimbaud1 year, 3 months ago
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A lot of Americans will sympathize with the Palin family, and a lot will be in a position to empathize. One lesson of the Clinton era should have been that the public, except for "the vast right-wing conspiracy," is not interested in the personal family, or the personal financial foibles of our candidates or representatives.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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I think there's plenty of skeletons in everyone's closets, it's just that republicans want to appear to be the party of God, Family Values and NOW have changed their name to Social Conservatives, since there's so much dirt in their party they can't use the same old same old any more.
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Candida1 year, 3 months ago
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piglet0709: "no skeletons in your closet....right?"
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There are lots of skeletons everywhere. I just wish the Christian Conservatives would show as much compassion toward the poor girls who get pregnant as they show toward Miss Palin. Who knows, it could perhaps even prevent a few abortions.-
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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I was thinking today that this might be a help to girls who find themselves pregnant. So many conservatives are hateful and mean to girls who have sex "out of wedlock", that keeping a child in those circumstances is like a sentence to ostracism. You're right, it might even stop a few abortions if these girls were treated better.
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BB641 year, 3 months ago
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I think you're missing the whole point of the Conservative Movement which isn't uncommon among some of our liberal friends here. First, we're disappointed in the choices Miss Palin made when it comes to the premarital activities. We're pleased that she's decided to have the baby and that her family is clearly supporting her. The key phrase there is family. It's not the state, county or city officials putting her up on welfare, paying for the prenatal and postnatal care. Her family is clearly standing with her. This isn't the case in many of our large cities. Often we see children raising children on the government's dime. This is a whole social issue that cannot be solved on the pages of propeller. Heck, it's a problem created in 1967 and we still haven't figured out how to deal with it.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 3 months ago
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I see the Dems going overboard on attacking Palin and her pregnant teenage daughter. They don't look so compassionate just about now and I think that it will come back to bite them on the ass when women go to the polls. Women headed to the polls, this is what the Dems really think about you and the responsibilities of parenthood.
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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But Dcky do you really think this will blot out women voters' memory of ads trashing Britney Spears and Paris Hilton to score political points against Obama, and McCain's disgraceful track record of using women, tossing them to the side and basically acting like a skank? Exactly...It won't do that at all. Dial that argument back several notches 'cause it won't fly. ;-(
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DropkickaLib1 year, 3 months ago
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What's your point pricky? I know that Britney and Paris are big Dem role models but you hardly have a valid point. Clearly, the Dems are hypocrites. They love it when Britney's teenage sister has a kid out of wedlock but God forbid that a Republican's daughter should do the same. Dem compassion ends where party lines begin.
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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But Dcky, like most clueless cons, what you fail to grasp is that the point Dems are trying to make in a situation like this is not that we're perfect or better than cons (though in many respects we're quite a bit better ;-) ) but rather that we're all imperfect and cons don't have a monopoly on morality.
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You think liberals are being hypocrites by ragging on Palin but what you don't seem to realize is that most of us don't even care if her daughter is a teenaged trollop with no morals and parents who totally suck. We really don't care, Dcky.
What frosts my weiner is cons bragging over and over again that they are the morality party, the party of God, etc. You're better than everyone else because you don't kill babies (to your way of thinking, anyway), and you don't want sex education in our schools because you're perfect parents who know how to control your kids and keep them in chastity belts or electronic monitoring bracelets or whatever. You feel you're more pious than everyone else because you won't be satisfied until "in God we trust" is embossed on all rolls of Charmin® and on every individual Kleenex® (bless you). If liberals cared, they wouldn't be all goody two shoes at Christmas time and put all you God warriors through the torment of saying "Happy Holidays" a few times during the month of December.
All of this pushes those of us on the left to say Merry Christmas, dammit! You cons are out of control and you don't even realize how far you've gone. Crystal or Bristle or whatever her name is, is totally cool with me. What makes me sick to my stomach is the way cons have all swarmed around Palin as if she IS the con movement when you and McCain know nothing about her. Basically McCain is trying to garner votes based on Palin's so called moral character when both he and Palin live in glass houses (seven, in McCain's case but let's not go there). ;-(
McCain is a skank and so is his haughty, hideous harlot of a drug addict wife Cindy who enthusiastically helped him commit adultery and abandon his wife. Palin seems very protective of her family, which is admirable but it sounds as if she takes it just a bit too far. I don't trust these people, Dcky and I don't get why cons are so eager to claim they know all they need to know about her when most of you didn't even know she existed until a few days ago. ;-(
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TimALoftis1 year, 3 months ago
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These kinds of things even though very minor in scope can cause damage to a candidate when so many other issues/questions are coming forward. On CNN's front page is a link to this subject as well as one concerning Palin's husband and past DWI charges/arrest.
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Some are beginning to ask 'Just how deep and thorough did McCain vet this candidate? I also don't think many Presidential nominees in the past picked a VP choice based only on knowing the individual from just 1 previous meeting.-
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TimALoftis1 year, 3 months ago
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I should also point out that the candidates family should be off limits...thus this pregnancy by Palin's daughter and the DWI story hopefully will not be more than a blip by tomorrow. While I may have a problem with Palin's desire for 'Abstinence' only education in schools - her daughter's pregnancy otherwise is none of my business.
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 3 months ago
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"her daughter's pregnancy otherwise is none of my business."
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Nor is the controversy surrounding her latest member of the family.
There are lots of things about Palin that make her an unsuitable candidate, I say, focus on those things.
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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But I think that's what Iraqis said to us when we illegally invaded their country, slaughtered their babies by the thousands and turned millions of them into refugees (very few of whom we're willing to take into our own country) and yet we've told them that we'll leave when *we* decide the time is right. Anyway, posts like yours make it clear to me why cons think torture is cool. ;-(
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Fedquip1 year, 3 months ago
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aye, there are a lot of reason to wonder why McCain would chose Palin as VP. All the personal stuff I think shows how little vetting the McCain campaign did. Its really weird that they picked her, she just wipes out the only argument they had against Obama... his inexperience.
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But then again, she does live next to Russia and thus has foreign policy experience.-
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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He thought chosing Sarah Palin would guarantee him the women's vote. However the average woman, who isn't wealthy enough to hire nannies, wants the right to choose.
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Personally, i would never have had an abortion, but there are cases that i think warrants abortion, but not as a method of birth control. This woman doesn't even believe in birth control, which takes all rights away from women, and turns them into baby making machines. Just more cannon fodder, i guess, because we all know that very few of the politicians children actually serve in combat.-
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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Wasilla is about 300 miles from Canada, almost a 1,000 miles from Russia, and about 1,800 miles from Seattle. The Seattle Thunderbird (a WHL minor league hockey team) fan base is much larger than the population of Wasilla.
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It turns out Palin was all for abstinence only, til her under-age daughter got pregnant.
It also turns out Palin was 100% for the Bridge to Nowhere, meaning she`s with McCain half the time and against him the other half on earmarks and handouts.
Funny how the cons promote her as anti-corruption fiscal conservative and here she is being investigated for abuse of power and she was totally for the Bridge to Nowhere until it turned out that Alaska was still going to get the money but could use it any way they wanted. Some political stand she took huh cons.-
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crespi1 year, 3 months ago
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George Bush is the one who made our country beholden to Communists by borrowing all that money from China to pay for his Iraq "war."
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Ultra-Conservative Wal-Mart is a huge dealer in Communist made goods, slipping them to our unsuspecting poor.
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Om1 year, 3 months ago
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Too bad you don't understand the concept. You are a big talker for what a woman should do with her uterus. How ironic for your philosophy that you can condone the killing of foreign babies, vehemently support the death penalty while belittling pro-choice advocates as baby killers. How convenient for your hatred of diverse opinions. It is possible to be pro-life and pro-choice. The neocon philosophy has more holes in it than McCain has in his head.
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StillUnashamed1 year, 3 months ago
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Who condones the intentional killing of foreign babies?
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And what does capital punishment have to do with abortion? One is the state administering punishment to a person whose guilt was proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law (and also after numerous seeminly endless appeals). The other is the premeditated killing of an innocent human being solely for the convience of another human being that is not so innocent.
"It is possible to be pro-life and pro-choice." I AM. I am definitly pro-life. I also believe a woman has the right to control her own body. I believe every woman should have the choice to engage in sexual activity or not to. No woman should be forced to become pregnant. But once she makes the choice that results in pregnancy, the thing growing in her is not her body. It has its own DNA, its own brain, its own beating heart, its own blood which type may be different than its mother, To equate the afore-mentioned individual to a clump of cancer cells is, well, inhuman.
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Dionys1 year, 3 months ago
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"I should also point out that the candidates family should be off limits"
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You could point that out, but then all the Repugnant Cons pushing her family forward as yet another reason America should vote for her would make you look a little like a hypocrite.-
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jschinadoll291 year, 3 months ago
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I agree with you. Obama pitched such a fit about leaving his wife alone, this girl is just a kid. I'm sure she has learned a lesson from getting pregnant so early in life. Lets leave the children alone, what their parents do have nothing to do with them.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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It seems someone wants to use a definition of hypocrite that applies to everyone. Whoever negged me, how the hell is someone a hypocrite because other people they are not associated with politically begin to use things they say should be off limits after they say they shouldn't be or push something they themselves never pushed? You can't control someone else's actions or words, as much as you might like too.
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gwhiddon1 year, 3 months ago
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Dionys, I guess you don't agree with your Democratic candidate, Obama.
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He seems to saying the children are off limits.
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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TimALoftis said "I should also point out that the candidates family should be off limits..."
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ROFLMAO Now this I agree with wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, the Republicans crossed the line when they attacked Obama's family months ago.Mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, pastor-- you name it --they attacked it. When there is a possibly of a lie to cover up a family embarrassment, then it's everyone's business to find out the character of the person you may vote for. But maybe I misunderstand your point. Is what you really mean that only Republican families should be off limits??-
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jerreddst1 year, 3 months ago
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Agreed!!!! Obama's pastor was not running for office, last I heard. We sure heard a lot about him. What about Hillary's pastor-the alleged sex abuser? Oops, sorry. If you are preaching abstenence but it's not being upheld in your own house...ouch! Not to mention what type of example this will be in our efforts to stem the tide of teenage pregnancy. Yup, let's continue to praise the virtues of 17 year old mothers!
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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I should also point out that the candidates family should be off limits..>>>>
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I agree, and too bad conservatives haven't shared that view. It's hard not to slap them upside the head with the same crap they've been feeding the country. Quite a conundrum. I remember when the creeps made fun of Chelsea Clinton's appearance. God, i wanted to rip their faces off. Creepy, creepy people. But the only person who could be hurt by this recent stuff, is a 16 year old girl. That's creepy, too. -
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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What many of you haven't figured out is, unlike some self-proclaimed 'christians' on this and other blogs. Most true Christians know that all men are fallible and will give her a pass. You know like the Clinton supporters did him.
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Call it hypocritical if you feel the need, but in the end, this will not cahnge the minds of those that wll vite for Obama nor those that want McCain as president.-
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DropkickaLib1 year, 3 months ago
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slate,
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I love the way one radical leftist after another will attack Palin's daughter for making a mistake, calling the family hypocrites, then post somewhere else on how any belief in traditional morality is a crock. Such hypocricy and how all Republicans are heartless. -
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ind061 year, 3 months ago
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I agree, the far more important thing is her quite probable abuse of power while governor in the scandal Alaskan papers are calling "troopergate". This is something Governor Palin did, this is her own poor judgement, not that of her teenage daughter.
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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slate, how many times must I tell you that the issue is not the hypocrisy itself? Live your life the way you want and I'll live mine the way I want. As long as you don't go around shouting from the rooftops how much better you are than I am or making life difficult for me because of the way I live, then we'll be fine.
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It's not the hypocrisy that concerns us but rather the fact that cons want to rule the world and force others to adhere to standards they themselves aren't willing to follow. Why should I sit idly by while cons try to steal votes based on moral character they don't have? ;-(
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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Tim and Chuck, i totally agree with both of you, the families should be off limits, and left alone in this. However, conservatives would have a field day with this if it were Barack Obama's daughter. Plus the fact that it's likely that Trig is Bristol's child as well, would mean 2 pregnancies for her in 2 years. Great reason for birth control, because when kids start having sex, they're not going to stop.
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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So it goes on this site yesterday they were saying that the Baby isn't Palin's but her girls, now they are saying that the girl had two, this is as digusting as the thread saying that Obama had sex with a man.
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THe left being so willing to attack Palin must mean they have some fear of her being picked or they would just sit back and be happy that their victory is wrapped up.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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Maybe if people wouldn't stoop so low as to accuse Obama of having an affair with a man, and attack his mother, African family, wife, minister and everyone who has ever spoken to him in his life, the left wouldn't feel compelled to retaliate. Glass houses, Pots and Kettles!
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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I'm not angry slate, i am just stating facts. If it comes across as anger, maybe you should check your own anger levels because of the way you interpret me. OR maybe you are trying a diversion. However, i don't see you saying anything to your angry friend eyesopen, stalking me from post to post harazzing me.
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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You know N2N you put on your big gurl panties and came in here and attacked the Palins, now that we are pointing out our view of how you are conducting yourself you whine like a little gurl.
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You are not acting one bit like the Christian you claim you are.
you claim 'the family should be off limits' in one breath then say in the other, but since the GOP is nasty I'll wallow in the mud to help my side win. I've seen no where in the Bokk you claim to be reading that that sort of behavior was ok. If so let me know.-
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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I pay for my internet the same as you do, and i will go to any site that i chose, as long as i chose. However, since the likes of you joined, i have deleted my account. It's not the place it used to be, with the hatred being slung around as thick as the mud you all are so good at slinging.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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ROFL, you would love to think i am whining. If that's want you call whining you don't know the meaning of the word, and i had always thought that you were very intelligent.
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I haven't seen any of you act like the Christians you claim to hold the patent to, but i don't follow any of you from post to post passing judgement on you or your Christianity. That tells me a lot about your character for you to uphold your party member in his dirt in one breath, and talk about my "big gurl panties" in the next.
I said families should be off limits, HOWEVER, since your ilk has chosen to talk about everyone in the Obama family including his African family, you opened the door to criticism.. Pots...Kettles, dishing it out but can't take it. Truth hurts doesn't it, and about this baby.. time will tell.-
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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Hun, I have the thickest skin on the site, if I didn’t I would have been gone long ago, I can take it and dish it.
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Don’t you think the pot analogy has seen the time it shouldn’t be used because of it’s implications?
As far as you thinking I was intelligent. Nope I’m not intelligent; I’m just a good ole boy from Texas Ma’am. But ya know, from what I’ve seen on this site, there aren’t many mental giants hanging around the threads for the most part.
Truly intelligent people would not waste the time to contribute to what we here consider, debate, with the crassness, the innuendos, the falsehoods, the envy, the abject hatred, and the hypocritical piety.
Why am I here? I love a good heated argument; it goes with my upbringing. That being said, I try and be fair, I’ve not only supported Bush but I’ve railed against him, the same goes for Obama, so don’t try your mean old evil Republicans made you misbehave. You, did that of your own free will, you just used the ‘excuse’ of the Republicans do it as you justification.
Needy ‘You say you haven't seen any of us act like the Christians we claim to hold the patent to. Well if you’ve actually read any of the other things I’ve written to you on this thread, you’d have been wise enough to figure out that I have a healthy disdain for so called ‘organized’ Christian churches. I’ve found them to pretty much talk out of both sides of their mouths, depending on the subject matter and who’s involved.
You know, kinda like some here on this very thread? You get my drift?
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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Only time will tell but if you've been following the story, I would like for you to explain to me how her daughter looked pregnant in a photo at the end of 2007 (words of author of previous photo story) and the mother didn't? Why was all photo pulled from web site? It is not implausible that the daughter's first baby was born and the daughter got pregnant again. Only the doctor could tell when the daughter conceived this pregnancy and she isn't going to tell but it's not impossible to conceive again soon after birth. As I stated before, only time will tell but Sarah's actions are under suspect because supposedly her water broke in Texas and she flew all the way back to Alaska before driving another hour to her doctor. .Why risk the babies health by delaying a visit to the doctor?-
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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That was my point. Just because they say she's 5 months pregnant doesn't mean she didn't have the first child. In the 2007 photo, Bristol Palin sure looks pregnant. Maybe they can explain why because baby fat doesn't look like that.
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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"THe left being so willing to attack Palin must mean they have some fear of her being picked or they would just sit back and be happy that their victory is wrapped up."
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--When has either side NOT been sitting in wait of an opening throughout this campaign?
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crespi1 year, 3 months ago
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What do Fundamentalist Christians EVER think except "Oh Jesus, Oh Jesus, Oh Jesus, smite my enemies so I can continue deception and hate and fear in Your holy name..."
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But that's just the one I know.
And the ones across the country I've been studying closely FOR THE LAST 28 YEARS.
Freedom of Religion.
Freedom for us to LOOK at that "religion."
GOD = LOVE - Normal Christians.
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RedRiverJ1 year, 3 months ago
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How sad it is for this young woman to be so critically judged on this thread. It makes no difference if her parents are conservatives, liberals, democrats or republicans some things are best left unsaid. She made an error in judgment, a mistake. She isn't the first and will not be the last. Can you image the embarrassment, the hurt of finding our your are pregnant with the entire world knowing or can you fathom the hurt and concern that her parents might feel? The last time I felt outrage like this was when some JERK made horrible remarks about Chelsea Clinton. Children should be off limits. Spouses that do not share the lime light should be as well, but those that campaign, make speeches on behalf of their spouse IMHO put themselves into the firing range for some hard ball politics. Hopefully Bristol Palin will not stop by propeller and read this tripe.
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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LOL..I agree but he could hardly lose in a situation like this.
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A) He gets to sound compassionate against his opponent
B) He knows he can't control the media (but he still looks good pretending that he can)
C) His family could be targeted worse than they already have been
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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She`s a corruption buster like I`m a astronaut.
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She`s already under investigation for abuse of power. What moron would choose this person as a running mate anyway? McCain only met her twice on top of not properly vetting her. What a joke!
Do we want a president who plays this flippant with choosing the direction he will take this country?
Pro-life war mongers & hypocrites need not apply.
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miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
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Outside of the fact that she was a lousy mayor who messed up her town, got into trouble right after getting elected governor and is currently under investigation, the fact that she wants to turn back the clock on women"s rights 100 years and turn all women into walking talking baby factories should end Mcsame's presidential campaign right now.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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Totally off-base opinions about what she she's done as mayor and governor. She's a corruption-buster and the issue with MOneghan/Wooten (your "investigation") will only show that Wooten threatened the life of her father while being a state trooper and that Palin didn't do anything inappropriate.
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As for being pro-life, HOORAY!!! What a sad, pathetic nation we are when we anguish over killing hardened killers but don't give a fig about aborting the unborn.
Hey, did you see that McCain has raised $10M since he picked Palin as his running mate?
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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You're simply showing ignorance of Palin's background. That's okay. When it percolates through the MSM you can either choose to bury your head in the snd or accept that she did take on HER OWN PARTY's corruption in Alaska.
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Palin's a winner. Biden's a two-time loser in the big game and only got the nod here and now because Obama is so woefully inexperienced in foreign policy that he had to have someone to prop him up. In fact, Palin has more executive experience than everyone else on either ticket.
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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"Since Obama BROKE his pledge about public financing"
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This one really sets the McCain campaign off doesn't it. If the situation were reversed McCain would not have hesitated to do the same. After all he has flipped flopped many times before. ROFLMAO
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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No need, my man. I'd check your own self, were I you.
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The absolute number one reason that "Plagiarizing" Joe Biden got the nod as VP was his chops in Foreign Policy. Barry the Boy Wonder and his handlers knew he was susceptible on this score with McCain, especially to independents.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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If she's a joke, then you should feel REALLY bad about your PREZ nominee, my man. Because she has more executive experience than he does and rivals him in general.
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Pretty sad (pathetic really) when the Republican VP nominee has a stronger resume than the Democratic Presidential nominee. Should be Biden/Obama...but that just illustrates the poor judgment of the 50% of Dems who wanted the Boy Wonder rather than a qualified candidate.-
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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Not as thin as Barry's foreign policy experience, my man.
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How many years has Barry held office? And what did he actually DO while he was in those offices.
Say what you will about Palin's number of years in office. She got things DONE. She didn't sit around and vote "present" to avoid controversial legislation. Being a Governor for a couple years is wholly different than being a Senator a couple years. And given that Barack was barely a U.S. Senator before his hubris (or George Soros) made him toss his hat in the ring for the presidency...he didn't do a heck of a lot there either.
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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Calling Barack Obama by the name of Barry is nothing more than disrespect. Why do you think they called the black man boy? It was a show of disrespect and that's exactly what you're doing by calling Barack by the name of Barry. In other words, because Barack is black and you call him Barry (ie boy) you are showing racism.
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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SON said "Barry the Boy Wonder and his handlers knew he was susceptible on this score with McCain, especially to independents."
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LMAO Now you're getting funnier wth every comment. McCain didn't know that Iraq does not border Afghanistan and Lieberman had to correct him on a comment he made about AlQuada in Iraq. McCain's a senile old fool that's losing his memory. The more he talks the more blunders he makes and his "bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" comment shows his intentions..-
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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Well, I'll take McCain the war hero over Barry "I Like People Who Bombed the Pentagon" Obama any day. ;-)
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Maybe McCain missed the mark on Iraq's borders, but Obama couldn't even remember how many states he wants to represent as President. 57? Duh...-
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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OK I'm out of here. I've post articles of web sites and because it's critical of McCain I guess it's spam. Anyway SOM, Google "McCain Perot" to see what Ross Perot thinks of your war hero.
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The other article was about McCain repeating his errors about the border and Iraq and Al Qaeda. I said to error is human but to repeat is something else.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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SOTM, I wouldn't have had an abortion, but don't you think a woman should be able to make the choice if she is raped or the victim of incest?
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Being a retired social worker, i know that the system in every major city in the nation is bogged down with unwanted children, children that have been abandoned, special needs children based on incest or drug abuse during pregnancy, lack of foster homes, abuse and neglect. Unfit foster care parents, abusing and molesting the children, and it goes on and on because of the shortage of people to care for these children. Are you an advocate for bringing children into the world only to be mistreated?
I understand that you may have had great parents, so did i, you may be a great parent, i would like to think i am as well.. but parenting isn't for everyone, and it's the children that suffer.
Please don't misunderstand, i am not for abortion as a method of birth control, but some cases warrant a choice.
Not only that, but Palin is totally against any kind of birth control at all. That means that crack heads would be having crack babies who may never be placed in a home because of lifetime problems, and that's just one case scenerio, but there are hundreds of scenerios that warrant birth control.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 3 months ago
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I don't have any problem with birth control. Like you, I don't see abortion as birth control.
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Yes, abortion is reasonable in a few situations such as saving the life of the mother or incest or rape. Although in the case of rape, I think counseling should be provided at no-cost to the victims. The choice would be the victim's, but I'd hope that a few could get past the horror and violation of the rape and still have the baby.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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I didn't say anyone should have an abortion because of poor parenting, i said that some people were never meant to be parents! By that i mean, they aren't willing to raise the children, the children become wards of the state, abused and/or neglected. That's not an issue of poor parenting, its an issue of NO parenting.
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amepenso31 year, 3 months ago
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If more teens and poor people had affordable birth control perhaps this situation would not have happened. Sex education can also help prevent ignorant teens from having babies at 17.
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And the sucess of a teenage marriage is very low. I feel sorry this girl being dragged into the spotlight. But it is her mother's fault.
When you running for vice president your entire life is put under a microscope. Family as well her own history.
Very rarely is abortion used as a form of birth control. I am glad to see that you are able to see abortion as reasonable in some cases. I am however rather offended by your "Get past the horror and violation of rape and still have the baby". Rape is not something that affects a woman for a couple of days. It is there for the rest of her life. I know you said "A few" in statement. But why should a rape victim carry a child that was unwanted. Then have to remember what happened every day?
It is not the "babies" fault. But women need to have control over their own bodies. I am not prolife. And I am prochoice. But I want people to use birth control instead of more children being tossed into a system that does not work.
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Dobes_Rule1 year, 3 months ago
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Uh right - Rape & Incest - a decidedly INCONVENIENT situation for the VICTIMS! You want to tell a 12 year old rape victim that she has nine months of being pregnant to help her get over her abuse? Counsel her? I just love it when ignorant men attempt to exert total control over a woman under the guise of religion - talk about SICKO!
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Candida1 year, 3 months ago
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It would be really mean spirited to attack Bristol for having got pregnant. She had done only what young people have been doing for centuries, and she will need all the love she can get to deal with the consequences.
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lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
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Didn't Sarah Palin have something to do with the school system in her town while she was mayor?
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wtagg1 year, 3 months ago
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Do some use such stories to their benefit? Certainly. Should they? No. It has nothing to do with how someone will administrate unless they let the issue dominate their time and attention.
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It is easy to desire to reach for the eye for an eye mentality in responding to such issues when others seem to use them for ammunition.
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mmrhe1 year, 3 months ago
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It's a crime a sitting President was put through that nonsense. You guys never cease to amaze me. You'll be ok with Bush and Cheney lying to get us into a crazy war but go ape$hit over the Monica crap.
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Have you no sense of priority?
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4cprocess1 year, 3 months ago
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Her family is a non-issue here as well as anyone else's family who posts here.
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I judge those who post here by your ideology and statements, not you're family.
Be honest here also and try not to justify you're statements because the "other side" does it because you know as well as anyone here that these attacks come from the "radical fringe" of both sides. So if you want to associate yourself with that, by all means, go right ahead.
I would also like to ask all those who are posting here, did your mother and father actually plan your birth? If they did, good for you but realize you're in the minority.
Even Barrack Obama has stated on several occasions that the "children are our future", not just the "planned" ones.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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My question, essentially, is who cares? My brother had a kid when he was 17 with a 25 year old daughter of a pastor. True story. It happens, folks, doesn't even matter how good a parent you were or how educated the kid is. You think they're thinking about safety, even if they know about? Sure as hell aren't.
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tchef1 year, 3 months ago
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Here's my thing, she's pregnant and 17, now she is going to marry the father, is she ready to be married? Does she love him or him her? How long will this marriage last? I hope for their sake and the child's that they do love each other and that it does work out because being brought up as an unwanted child in an marriage without love is not a good upbringing.
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DrShade1 year, 3 months ago
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I think we're all being far too generous here. Does she even know who the father is? Maybe we could do a double DNA test and find out Trig's parentage as well. All efforts to put that rumor to rest have, thus far, been unsatisfying. And it's odd. All it would take is a birth certificate. Very odd indeed that the daughter is thrown to the wolves instead of providing that simple piece of paper.
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chicky19531 year, 3 months ago
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Can it already, babies born with downs syndrome are usually born to women over 35. teenage pregnancies are very common,it even happens to poor, middleclass, upperclass and whoops, god forbid to sentor's,president's, government, and city offical's children. The point is they were born, not murdered. When I was pregnant with my son Joey, they said I would not make it, I was told to get an abortion. Wow, am I glad I did not do it, my son is 31,owns his own business, is bringing up his two sons by himself, their mom walked out on them and I could not be prouder of my son. His sons, my grandchildren are very well behaved children and both have been on the honor roll in school each year. What I would of missed out on, makes me shudder to think of, if I had aborted him. Life starts at conception period. Obama does not consider a baby baby until it is born. which by the way his father was married to another woman in africa when he so called married Obama's mother.How many wives can a man have at one time? Many if they are muslim. I knw because I came very close to marring an Aabic Muslim, Obama's father was black arabic muslim for the record. Obama is 50 white, 43.77% black arab muslim and 6.23 % black. Obama also shares a common genetic bloodline with President Bush. You would be surprisedif you knew anyting about genetic bloodlines, even your own. thought I'd give you all something to think about. I know mine, we had our family history done all the way back to 1368 on my mother's side.
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justhavetocomment1 year, 3 months ago
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Chicky1953.. reading your post, you must not know much about downs syndrome. 80% of babies born with Downs Syndrome are born to women between the ages of 22 and 28. THe odds are higher after age 35 then raise even higher after age 40. Some babies with DS are very capable of maintaining a "normal" life. (whatever "NORMAL" is). congrats on giong against the drs. and continuing your pregnancy. And good luck to your son. However, Women do NOT usually walk out of a marriage and leave kids behind, unless there was a problem in the marriage. If you want to brag about your family, find a place to do it and not in the political blog.
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Lisawonder1 year, 3 months ago
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How old are you People??? I guess you are not old enough to remember Kennedy's Indiscretions, among other things. Oh, by the way, do you recollect what the economy was like when Carter was president?? Of course not, it was ten times worse than it is now. And by the way, the preparation for 911 happened on Clinton's watch along with Monica.
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tchef1 year, 3 months ago
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I don't consider Kennedy as a good president. And yes the preparations for 9?11 where going on during Clinton's watch and Clinton warned Bush about how serious of a threat Bin Ladin was and Bush ignored it. 9/11 happened on Bush's watch and Bin Ladin is still free. By the way the economy was good under Clinton, and Clinton authorized the air strike that ended Saddam Hussain's WMD program.
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And if we had followed Carter's energy plan we probably wouldn't been in the predicament with foreign oil that we are in right now.
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jemiltd1 year, 3 months ago
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Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. Sir Walter Scott
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I applaud Obama's position on the matter of Sara Palin's daughter, telling us we should let it go because it is a private family matter and has nothing to do with the election. Before I let it go, I have to say this: This is really not about Palin's poor daughter's now very public pregnancy. Palin's announcement today told us everything about who Palin is. She did not immediately disclose the pregnancy of her seventeen year old daughter to the public and probably not to McCain's camp. Lying by omission is still deceit. IF McCain did have that knowledge, then they are both guilty of deceiving the public. If it was a non-issue why not fully disclose it at the very beginning? Palin has clearly demonstrated that she is willing to be deceitful to gain power. George Bush deceived us and we went to war over oil and money. AGAIN, is this what we want for our country? Is this the example we want for our youth? I say again that each of us has an individual responsiblity to know where both candidates stand on the important issues. I have done the reading, I encourage each person to do the same. Then you need to take one person who isn't registered to vote and get them registered and then on November 4, 2008, take one person with you to the voting location so they can vote. This country, your country's future depends on it. Four more years of the same is going to destroy US. -
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jemiltd1 year, 3 months ago
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Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. Sir Walter Scott
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I applaud Obama's position on the matter of Sara Palin's daughter, telling us we should let it go because it is a private family matter and has nothing to do with the election. Before I let it go, I have to say this: This is really not about Palin's poor daughter's now very public pregnancy. Palin's announcement today told us everything about who Palin is. She did not immediately disclose the pregnancy of her seventeen year old daughter to the public and probably not to McCain's camp. Lying by omission is still deceit. IF McCain did have that knowledge, then they are both guilty of deceiving the public. If it was a non-issue why not fully disclose it at the very beginning? Palin has clearly demonstrated that she is willing to be deceitful to gain power. George Bush deceived us and we went to war over oil and money. AGAIN, is this what we want for our country? Is this the example we want for our youth?-
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fsev411 year, 3 months ago
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If we had something other than Sara Palin's word on this and the other pregnancy i would be ready to accept it as truth. There are still mountains of circumstantial evidence that lead reasonable persons to question what is true. From the multitude of things I have read about Sara Palin in the last three days I am not comfortable with her word alone. It would be nice if we were able to leave the candidates and office holder's families out of the political arena but that hasn't been the case for many years.
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yeisibo1 year, 3 months ago
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One day late and one dollar short. She should have disclosed it when she spoke the first time accepting McCain's invitation to join the ticket. Obviously if she could have covered up this family issue, she would have and that plays out as part of her character.
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Kourtnie10271 year, 3 months ago
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OK-she may be only 17 but atleast she's taking responsibility and doing the right thing! This just goes to show you that they are a real american family and have problems and difficulties like you and I. They aren't trying to put themselves out there to be better than everyone and have they're noses stuck up in the air(like some other candidate!). Yes, she is only 17 and she has a hard road ahead of her, but who are we to judge because most of us know someone who has been in that situation. So, don't be so quick to judge someone. She's going to have enough things on her mind and doesn't need these rude comments thrown in her face about how she "screwed up". God wouldn't give anyone anything they couldn't handle! Like I said, it just shows they're a real family with real everyday problems!!
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Natureboy1 year, 3 months ago
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"This just goes to show you that they are a real american family and have problems and difficulties like you and I."
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Nope. I have problems and difficulties, but I don't have a daughter who is knocked up and still in high school. And I am not dumb enough to teach my kids "abstinence only."
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katiebabie07371 year, 3 months ago
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When that girl has owned up to a choice she has made (not a mistake) and is doing what has been decided as the right thing, i am aware that this choice could be the entire influence of Palin herself but this obscene comment is completely childish and really... hit me up the next time u have to make a sequence of choices like this, she is a teenage girl, leave her the hell alone and stop typing your sick visualizations going through your head
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Natureboy1 year, 3 months ago
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"When is a 16 year old girl throwing her legs up in the air so that some guy doesn't have to masturbate equate to "taking responsability"
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motivator9111 year, 3 months ago
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man you guys are reaching you think its OK for obama to lie through his teeth on a regular basis and spue racism yes racism wich he was inspired to learn from mr so called rev. wright for over 20 years did anyone read any of his books dreams from my father quote "the audacity of hope ...it is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of port-au-prince see in a year, where white folks'greed runs a world in need, aparteid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere, that's the world!on wich hope sits" this is the man recieving the democratic nomination un freekin believable
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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Almost as unbelievable as your POINT-less trash talk and grammar. Does it feel good to call a black guy a racist? It's not racist to point out that rich white men were responsible for slavery in America. It's not racist to point out that rich white men have sent our nation to ALL of our wars, without exception. It's not racist to point out that only now, 143 years after the end of the Civil War, a black man can finally get nominated for the Presidency.
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There are other sides to this issue that are equally as rediculous. The African-American groups calling for reparations for slavery being one of them. I'm sorry, if my great-great-great-great granddaddy owned your great great great great granddaddy, but it's NOT MY FAULT.
The race baiting, perpetuated by morons like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton only serves to further divide and foster hatred between races. The idiots who say that the Bush Administrations bungling Katrina response was because they "didn't care about black people" are stupid.
But, your arguments are equally as stupid as theirs. Morons come in all colors. Stop lifting out-of-context quotes from Neo-Con websites. You dishonor yourself, and you should really change your picture, because your unintelligent and ill-formed arguments reflect badly on the Corps as well.
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motivator9111 year, 3 months ago
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the closer we get to november the more the truth will come out barack obama cannot hide the truth we will see the racism he harbored via reverend wright as seen in his own wife the rezko favors wich bought his house the ayers backing wich got him elected in the senate the tie's with farakan it will all surface so brace for it lol
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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I applaud Barack Obama for refusing to "go there" about this issue. Once again, while McCain is airing his desperate attack ads, Obama does the right thing by defending Palin. It's all tabloid crap, and he knows it.
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katiebabie07371 year, 3 months ago
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parents lose their ability to mold their child's morals at a young age and most do the best they can, when kids get into schools and are around people their own age it becomes the child's responsibility to become who they want to be with the help and molding of mainly peers, at 17 this young woman is capable of her own morals and is responsible for all her choices, this is not a reflection on Palin's politics, this is just a distraction to the race. Have any of you seen the commerical about McCain having multiple houses, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HIS POLITICS...NOTHING, and the same with hers. This does not make her any less republican, or any less right in Gods eye. She has most likely done a great job raising her kids, it is her own close minded party that will be dissecting every bit of this story. we aren't voting for her daughter here, so look beyond this.
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GutsyMSUSA1 year, 3 months ago
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Hmm....
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Ann Dunham was 3 months pregnant..when, supposedly, Obama Sr. married.her...we think..but, according to other records he was already married..so....the real question here is...
Is Obama, II illegitmate or not????????Poor guy..even he doesnt know...and admits it..
He said if his mother had lived longer...he probably would have found out..
I don't think it is anyone's business...and by the way...anyone who has not had that happen in their family..or families of close friends...then cast fhe first stone..
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katiebabie07371 year, 3 months ago
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parents lose their ability to mold their child's morals at a young age and most do the best they can, when kids get into schools and are around people their own age it becomes the child's responsibility to become who they want to be with the help and molding of mainly peers, at 17 this young woman is capable of her own morals and is responsible for all her choices, this is not a reflection on Palin's politics, this is just a distraction to the race. Have any of you seen the commerical about McCain having multiple houses, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HIS POLITICS...NOTHING, and the same with hers. This does not make her any less republican, or any less right in Gods eye. She has most likely done a great job raising her kids, it is her own close minded party that will be dissecting every bit of this story. we aren't voting for her daughter here, so look beyond this.
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joanne923711 year, 3 months ago
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This is just one more skeleton McCain didn't know she had until it was too late.What do you expect when he only did a 15 minute vetting? Thats less time than Target does in hiring a cashier. Now he's going to send people back to do more vetting before he look even more like a fool to his party. Will he act as just rashly in a crisis? As for chosing her regardless of her accomplishments. She was NOT the best Republican choice. It is an insult to me that he think a pretty face a womb will satisfy the deomocratic women vote.
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So what is known about her so far.....
She says the believe in abstinence and teaches it, but Not at home.. She is accused of abuse of power by trying to get her brother in law fired by circumventing the justice system which she supposedly is to uphold . Her daughter doesn't respect her view or house and got knocked up but thats okay as long as she /daughter can hide her belly from the camera just by holding the baby.
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katiebabie07371 year, 3 months ago
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"parents lose their ability to mold their child's morals at a young age and most do the best they can, when kids get into schools and are around people their own age it becomes the child's responsibility to become who they want to be with the help and molding of mainly peers, at 17 this young woman is capable of her own morals and is responsible for all her choices, this is not a reflection on Palin's politics, this is just a distraction to the race. Have any of you seen the commerical about McCain having multiple houses, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HIS POLITICS...NOTHING, and the same with hers. This does not make her any less republican, or any less right in Gods eye. She has most likely done a great job raising her kids, it is her own close minded party that will be dissecting every bit of this story. we aren't voting for her daughter here, so look beyond this."
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crespi1 year, 3 months ago
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We just had a Fundamentalist Christian "President" who "God" told to invade Iraq (and run those no-bid contracts for his cronies to rip America off, too I suppose...)
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The conservative folks in Kansas THREW THE FUNDAMENTALIST CREATIONISTS RIGHT OFF THE SCHOOLBOARD.
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NoWayMan1 year, 3 months ago
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the rumor going around was that Bristol Palin was actually the mother of the baby with down's syndrome. The palin's claim that the baby is indeed Sarah Palin's, not Bristol's, and that when Sarah Palin was in her third trimester and giving birth, Bristol was out of school for four or five months with a bad case of mono.
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now we learn that Bristol is 5 months pregnant.
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mentorofmoment1 year, 3 months ago
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One thing I have not heard is this: even my teenage daughter nailed it. When a young woman outside the statistical demographic to be pregnant at 17 IS PREGNANT AT 17, there is a FAMILY problem. It may be many things: marital breakup, any other sort of family dysfunction...but what did my 17 year old daughter guess it was? That the parents were not paying enough attention to their children. Especially the vulnerable 17 year old.
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If the family values of the Rep class are in effect, then it is not just the having of the children which is a good thing, but once the children are there, it is PAYING ATTENTION.
Any well read parent (myself) and any similar teen ( my daughter) know that the teen years require not a backing off of attention, but a gearing up of same! Teens act the good game: get out of my face. But, all studies show they need their parents' time and attention more then than ever. Further stats show that divorce in that age group of kids is DEVASTATING TO THEM, far more than younger kids.
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roniwho1 year, 3 months ago
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Dr. Shade, I don't know what kind of Dr. you are to make such an un-likely statement. The girl is 5 months pg. How in the world would she be the mother of a baby 4 months old? Must be something in Alaska that the rest of the world is not aware of! Why is it so important to even discuss the young woman, her religion, etc. Her mother is running for VP, and I am sure she will make an outstanding one, not the daughter. And why are so many of you referring to the baby as, "the down-syndromed baby?" You have put a label on him that has to be very hurtful to the parents. At least they kept him alive. And for those of you who think Obama is right in his decisions to kill babies, will one day have to stand before a higher court and explain your actions. God does not favor killing babies. If the parents don't want the child, there are still adoption agencies who have hopeful parents waiting for a baby of their own. I adopted my son when he was two weeks old. There was no difference shown him, he was loved completely. There is many people who post on this site that need to stay in bed. Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheeps clothing, yet they are raging wolves. Can you think of anyone running for President who fits this passage. Ummm, I believe his name starts with an "O"
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antibrainwasher1 year, 3 months ago
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McSenile is unfit to command, he should be in a rest home, and this Palin is typical of the repugnicon party, all that matters is ad hominem visciousness and evangelical insanity. McSenile should be in a rest home, he is too old, and obviously unfit to command a mini van, let alone the military.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 3 months ago
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What does it say about a heartless psychopathically ambitious bitch that would subject her children to the tabloid media of the united states and shove them into the spotlight. She has a 6 month old down syndrome baby, and she wants to be the commander in chief then McSenile dies of a viagra overdose? Are you kidding me?
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Are you idiot republicans capable of doing anything but screwing up the country?
Republics are incapable of governing with out massive corruption, greed, racism, misogeny, fear, loathing and ignorance promoted as religious dogma.
This woman is the typically ignorant evangelical ruthless psychopath. She represents a slim 15 percent of americans who are bent on end times rapture and other insanity.
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TheNewsseeker1 year, 3 months ago
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Naturally, it is a hard but courageous decision to keep the baby in such a case. Nevertheless one could ask who exactly made it and if there was any free choice for the young mother. But I think, even if Sarah Palin is strictly against abortion and belongs to the pro life-movement, she should have told her daughter about how it comes to a pregnancy and that there exist means to provide conception!
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Poulenc1 year, 3 months ago
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I agree with Obama who rightly made the point that family business, unless illegal, should be off-limits--is in fact irrelevant to the worthiness of a candidate seeking office.
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That said, the pregnant-daughter news betrays an eye-rolling goof on McCain's part--he should, of course, have vetted Palin more closely.
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lloydm651 year, 3 months ago
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How sad it is,not the criticism of Palin daughter,because if were perfect i would be with you one hundred %.i was born a sinner, and sin every day and I ask God for his grace, and forgiveness every day.I know what evil lurks in the hearts of men.Even though we see murder,rape, and genocides in abortion mills every day,our tongues do more damage to ourselves, and others,because they depict the issues of our hearts.As far as most people hating christians, hope not.
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Sandokan1 year, 3 months ago
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First of all before making my comment I would like to say that I am a Hillary supporter - still. The issue with Palin's daughter is only important in that it shows the hypocrisy of the planks of the GOP.
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On one hand we have the "holier-then-thou-art" & conservative profile, then we have "the out-of-wedlock" pregnancy. There is nothing wrong about a young child making a mistake, but the question is raised about the age of the child when the pregnancy occurred? She is currently 17 years old. When did she turn 17? And if it occured at the age of 16, is that a form of abuse?
As Obama has recently said that the family should be off bounds, however all sorts of questions are raised when a core issue springs forth.It is a normal human reaction. IMHO, since Obama has said he wants to bring "change" - then he must attack this much more aggressively - at least harder then he is currently doing. It would even pull more potential voters over to his side! For avoiding kicking an opponent, who was down! -
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tperiod1 year, 3 months ago
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This story epitomizes " no child left behind to me" in our overperforming, high profile society. Where is "Focus on the Family", here? We can all say that the media needs to stay our of this story, but Sarah Palin and her husband made the decision to run for this office. If my family were in a crisis such as this, I think I would have said to Mr. McCain...thanks, but no thanks, I am 44 years old and will...God willing... have many opportunities for more power in political office, but I have this one chance to rally around my family and try to get this right. Now, based upon their decision, this poor girl is in the national and international spotlight!
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I am a 44 year-old working mother of two and my husband and I made a decision this year to scale back and focus on our two elementary aged children and that is what all middle-class American families need right now is more time, better healthcare and the ability to make an honest living and focus on their families. I think this story of Sarah Palin and her child greatly sets back the basic ideals of the working family! -
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thinks4herself1 year, 3 months ago
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I agree with some people who feel that the real issue with Palin as a VP is not because of her young pregnant teenage daughter. It is unfortunate about her being preg at such a young age, stil in high school, and now your mom is in the running for the second biggest office in the country. That's a lot of stress.
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But my thing is how do you put your family through this election knowing what it would mean. You have an infant child and a grandchild on the way. Let McCain pick another VP-take care of home first. Plus I am insulted as a women to think that he would just pick this random chick so this political race can have a woman in it. He doesnt REALLY care about the woman voter, what we want, what we need---this is all BULL ISHT.
Plus to all those who think that a pro-choice stance means that you would go killing all the unborn babies are CRAZY. I'm pro-choice but also feel that abortion is out of the question for me. But that is my personal belief but that doesnt mean I think everyone should take my stance. I mean would making abortions illegal seriously stop women from terminating a pregnancy? No, they would do it themselves or maybe throw the baby away. Or maybe yall think that no abortions means NO UNWANTED pregnancies?! again stupidity. Proper information and sex education about our choices is the best method---cuz we see how well the Republican platform worked for her own family. -
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most_reasonable1 year, 3 months ago
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Just as the litmus test for the administrators who screwed up Iraq was :What is your position on Rowe Vs, Wade the Litmus test on Palin is how many GOP nuts can you attract to the polls. Her no sex education, just say no, drill, drill, drill is more of the same Bush right wing incompetence that has brought the nation from its heights, prosperity, economic security, 300,000 new job growth, to a land of distraction.
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Om1 year, 3 months ago
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This election will mark the end of the GOP as we know it. They are sadly out of touch, desperately trying to stay relevant in a world that has changed beyond their recognition. They are in the throes of a death spiral. It will take a very long time for them to find a cohesive constituency and get a resonant foothold again.
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gwhiddon1 year, 3 months ago
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No thank you, I will say yes to the Republicans.
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I hadn't really made up my mind several days ago, but after reading the posts from the Democratic snobs who think everyone is out to get them, I'd much rather vote for a former Navy Pilot with a VP who hunts and fishes in Alaska, one of the most beautiful states in this country.
You retarded, vile, hypocritical liberals have convinced me to vote for McCain's ticket.
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gwhiddon1 year, 3 months ago
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You're one of the most obvious examples of what I'm talking about.
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You're doing more to convince people to consider voting for McCain than anyone deliberately trying to convince people to vote republican.
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gwhiddon1 year, 3 months ago
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Self destruct?
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I'm doing quite well, thank you.
Riding 15 miles round trip to work,
better health than many young people, finishing up my Engineering degree
making 25 grand a year, no cost for gasoline riding a Trek 1200 racing bike to work.
You'll self destruct of a heart attack before i even get close to dying.
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seventheaven1011 year, 3 months ago
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I have a 17 year old daughter , raised in Church. She is not pregnant, but if she was I am sure The Church would not thrn their backs on her. We are a human, everyone that has made a post, has a family or friend that has faced the same.
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Do you parent or the ones that are posting had a baby that did not marry the dad? My guess would be YES. That a trip to the human resorce center, you will find mom's there with 3 or 4 kids with them, that is not counting the ones that was left a home. I deal with this everyday, 75% are black, most don't know any of the children's dad's name. Keep in mind I am talking about one person after the other with 5,6, or 7 kid's all by different men. They are the ones that are so ready to judge someone else, just to make themselves feel better,
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Poulenc1 year, 3 months ago
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gwhiddon, above: I'm astounded the so-called liberal postings in this thread, on one site, would cause you to vote one way or the other.
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The idea s to examine closely what the CANDIDATES have to say, to take their platforms and the philosophies of their parties into account, and THEN make a reasoned decision based on that. (I'm not taking into account the psychological predilections each of has to favor one POV over another.)
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gwhiddon1 year, 3 months ago
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Thank you for the advice.
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That isn't really what I'm going to base my vote on. I'm undecided right now - I had to say what I did, it was what I felt at the time.
What's amazing is that these people don't realize that they are probably hurting Obama's cause.
He wants no part of this, and they don't even realize it.
Thanks again for the advice. I'm still thinking, trying to see if Obama is really what he says he is.
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blkvirg1 year, 2 months ago
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I seen a video from the real father of Bristol Unborn child,He was pleading for them to allow him to be apart of the childs life.It was really sad because he is African American and just because of this they are not allowing him this right.This is so wrong.
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