Community Organizers Demand Apology After Sarah Palin's Attack »
Posted By Neophile 10 months ago in NewsLast night during her speech to the Republican National Convention, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) sought to play up her experience as mayor of a small town in Alaska by mocking community organizing.
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Neophile10 months ago
Here's a great little description of exactly what it was that Giuliani and Palin were mocking:
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Tcaros10 months ago
The ghoul, Guliani, showed up to make his twisted face rhetoric. It's getting old seeing him getting old. He needs to jump in a coffin after that fart he deivered at the convention.
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Klarissa10 months ago
If you think that Working for Acorn to register democrat voters and the get out the vote qualifies a person to be President of the United States you don't set your sights very high.
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scavfrank10 months ago
********.....communuity organizers are nothing but special interests who want federal funding for nothing and believe the government should pay for everyscrew up and when they do something wrong....its biased or racial, not my bad and lets correct it. She laid it on the line. As much as i dont like him...I was at ground zero Tues Sept 11 and 27 days after that. I saw him there. No community organizers to try to recruit help. Isnt that special.
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hyperbola10 months ago
Actually the organizers might like to demand that Palin give up her corruption and lies on many topics.
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Fact Check of Governor Palin's Speech
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PALIN: "It was the spirit that brought me to the governor's office, when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau … when I stood up to the special interests, the lobbyists, big oil companies, and the good-ol' boys network."
REALITY: PALIN HAS A LT. GOVERNOR WHO IS A FORMER OIL LOBBYIST, HIRED WASILLA'S FIRST FEDERAL LOBBYIST (A FORMER STEVENS STAFFER) & HAD THE SUPPORT OF ENTRENCHED ALASKA POLITICIANS DURING HER 2006 RACE.
Palin's Oil & Gas Appointee Is Former Lobbyist for TransCanada. "Marty Rutherford, who leads Gov. Sarah Palin's gas pipeline team, made $40,200 in 2003 while consulting in Juneau for a pipeline subsidiary of TransCanada. TransCanada is one of the companies bidding for a state license to build a pipeline to carry gas to market from Alaska's North Slope. It's not a disqualifier, but the past connection deserves a second thought." [Anchorage Daily News editorial, 12/15/07]
Palin "Counting on Her Lieutenant Governor Candidate… Former Oil Lobbyist" to Help Win Oil Industry Support. "The defiantly grass-roots nature of the campaign may have distanced her from certain traditional centers of power in Alaska. The oil industry is one -- but the campaign says it is counting on her lieutenant governor candidate, Parnell, a former oil lobbyist and legislator, to help there." [Anchorage Daily News, 10/24/06]
Palin's Former Chief of Staff is Stevens' Campaign Manager. "Monegan says pressure came from those around Palin, including former Palin chief-of-staff Mike Tibbles, Department of Administration Commissioner Annette Kreitzer, and director of boards and commissions Frank Bailey. Tibbles, who is now the campaign manager for Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, said Friday he couldn't comment on whether he spoke to Monegan about Wooten." [Anchorage Daily, 7/19/08] -
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injest10 months ago
MINNEAPOLIS -
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"Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Thursday blamed supporters of the Democratic presidential ticket for spreading "misinformation and flat-out lies" about her and her family."
Thats a fact Daily Kos MSNBC Huf po, think progress the list goes on,no doubt about it.
Apparently Obama supporters have no faith, zero, none, nada, zipo that Obama can win on issues so the resort to spreading lies and rumors.
Classic.
BTW did ya see the vid today of Obama after his interview with Bill O. He look shaken, distant, like a man who’s bubble just burst.
With his bio
International experience, as a Seven-year-old boy living in Indonesia
A Community Organizer, someone needs to let Obama in on the joke.
Community Organizer is a Boy Scout merit badge.
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sortofcute0110 months ago
IF YOU COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS FOR OBAMA HAD ANY SELF RESPECT YOU WOULD BE BLAMING OBAMA NOT PALIN.....SHE VERY EFFECTIVELY POINTED OUT WHAT A PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN LOOKS LIKE........HE IS A DIVIDER AND AN OVERDOSE OF HYPE.... VOTE MCCAIN / PALIN FOR REAL CHANGE...I AM
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ncsetter10 months ago
If I wanted to change things to make them worse than they are now, I guess I would.
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lbrtyordeath10 months ago
ALL CAPS IS A CHARACTERISTIC OF MORONIC PROPAGANDA SPEWING NEOCONS!!!
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tiredof10 months ago
Everybody needs to stop trying to figure out who going to do what and look at the situation we as a people are in right now. For 8 years the eoncomy has been going down. Washington is not for the people. There for themselves. Who can out do each other. McCain/Palin all they have done is talk about what Obama can't or have not done. We need to here specifics about what the republicans are going to do. I am so tired of our leaders using tactics just to get in. Get in on your own merit. If you dig one ditch for someone to fall in you better dig two. Because the trrap you set for some else just may be for you.
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So people look at the way this country is. No other country respect the USA anymore. We are so busy trying to put each other down that it is sickening. If we don't come together as a people of this country and quit looking at race, we are going to be in a world of trouble more so than ever.
I am so tired of this. When Clinton was in office, things ran so smooth for 8 years. And look at us now under the republicans, can't even buy grocery without thinking about if I have enought to get gas to go to work.
McCain is a joke and so is Palin. How is it that he talked about Obama being young and inexperience. Then he turn around a picked the very thing he was against for his running mate. Talk about man unstable in his way. what you think he's going to do when he gets in office. Don't know which way to go.
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miklkit10 months ago
As another commentator said:
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"Please remember, Jesus was a Community Organizer and Pontius Pilate was a Governor."
The responsibilities of being mayor of a town of 5,000 were so great that Palin had to hire a city administrator to run her town for her. That begs the question: Who is running Alaska?-
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simonsez10 months ago
She was also Govenor of the largest state in the union.
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Why are you jerks so afraid of Sarah?
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ecotourusa10 months ago
we are in a very serious time right now. this candidacy is just a distraction from what's really going on
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read more:
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/05/in-effec...-
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antibrainwasher10 months ago
Meant for comment below from the republican shill moron.
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Hypocrite, the community organizers like creationists, you love to death, poisoning the minds and lying to children, but let somebody hand out food to poor people outside a church, and watch you religicons froth at the mouth. You are sickening.
Fundamentalists like Palin all have some sexual secrets that motivates them to crow about how wonderful they are, like Haggarty, preaching against gay marriage while getting sodomized while smoking crack by a gay prosititute.
Palin was having affairs, her last downs baby is not from her husband. She was smoking pot and neglecting her kids while they were smoking pot and getting pregers. -
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Tangent00110 months ago
I'd try doing more research. Obama was the director of the Developing Communities Project for three years.
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"During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization." -
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doggammit10 months ago
McCain doesn't care about rancor. He cares about dissenting opinions that upset him and his candidacy. There would be no fire there if there was no fuel. This is just a political ploy to shift the platform of presidential politics away from issues and onto personalities. The majority of Americans already know that the republican party can't win on issues, so, according to McCain & Co, there are no "issues" only "personalities' - this after McCain denouced Obama for being a "celebrity". So apparently, by his own choice of words, McCain wants us to believe there are neither issues nor personalities. Why then is there even a presidential race if there is nothing to contend? This two prong attack is totally Nihilistic - not very RW or evangelical by any stretch of the imagination - and not the thing Americans need to hear from anyone, at any time, for any reason.
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Against what appears to be his own personal judgement, McCain is forced into this dark corner because he has chosen to lockstep with the party as opposed to dealing with the many disasters the Republicans have created both domestically and abroad - American issues - not party ones. But, Obama himself is obviously reluctant to take the real issues as far as they could be taken - and has backed away from some of the positions that many would welcomed back into the fold of political discourse. Now he is just luke warm - which I suppose is better than a stone cold McCain - but still less than satisfactory IMHO,
I don't believe that those who are in real charge of either party are unaware of the real depth these much avoided issues plum and it suits both to evade them because any coherent exercise in frank debate like the ones Ron Paul delivered exposes both parties as co partners in a multitude of lies, coverups, and debatable policy interests.
If you want to follow the false front leitmotif we are being fed all the way down the line without questioning what either side is really saying, or if you decide by your emotions that one side sings a better tune than the other, then you're too tone deaf to deal effectively with the real meaning of their combined rhetoric and any mantra you decide to sing will not be the truthful one, just another counterfeit to cover for a counterfeit political culture built on stacks of lies and deceptions. If America has lost her moral compass and her soul it is because realistic discussion is now counterproductive to the direction the monopolistic post WWII state has declared for itself - not what we the people have declared for it. I can't stop that ship from continuing on its inertial course - but I can get to the top of the crow''s nest and point out that direction to others. Soon such things will be a crime if we continue on our present journey. In fact, with the arrest of prospective dissenters and journalists in actual attendance at the RNC thought crime is now upon us even as habeas corpus languishes in exile. -
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fgismo012510 months ago
Communities are not destroyed by parties, but by individuals. If Welfare Reform is bad, why is it wrong to teach someone respect for themselves instead of having government give them a free ride? The problem with the Democrats is they believe free rides mean more votes. COUNTRY FIRST.
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Bonded10 months ago
Nobody is mocking community organizers in church basements and community centers across the country working to improve their neighbors' lives. What deserves ridicule is the notion that Obama's brief stint as a South Side rabble-rouser for tax-subsidized, partisan nonprofits qualifies as executive experience you can believe in.
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What deserves derision is "community organizing" that relies on a community of homeless people and ex-cons to organize for the purpose of registering dead people to vote, shaking down corporations and using the race card as a bludgeon. -- Michelle Malkin-
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Neophile10 months ago
No, Palin mocked ALL community organizers. Between her and Giuliani it appeared as if they were trying to turn "community organizer" into a pejorative.
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somecommonsense10 months ago
that was what he did when he finished Harvard...you arrogant little monster...he has never stated that his 3 years of work when he was just out of college qualifies him to be President...how ignorant are you, or how ignorant do you perceive Americans to be...you seem to leave out his position of editor of THE Harvard Law Review, I think Sarah Palin has a BA in journalism with high hopes to be on ESPN...noble indeed...he did the 3 years helping poor people in the slums of Chicago when he could have been making a mint, helping mostly people who had been laid of from the local steel plant. Obviously then going on to become State Senator for 7 years in 1997, he was in elected office before Hillary was..I think Palin had just won In Wassila with a whopping 650 votes for mayor. Then he became a US senator where he been for almost 3 years, where contrary to republicans passed BIPARTISAN legislation dealing with ethics reform, nuclear nonproliferation, veterans health care, transparency in govt contracts, children s health care, various educational issues, and much more, a simple google search will enlighten any republican of his accomplishments. Sarah palin is an empty skirt, a puppet a joke really, Sen. Barack Obama on the other hand is someone I feel has my best interests in mind and has the intelligence, and the judgment to properly navigate the times and make improvements on American governmental systems and ultimately American's lives, I trust his to create jobs, and improve world standing and security, I think McCain is too reckless and ideological and too ambitious with too many "scores" to settle to get anything meaningful done, especially now with Palin.
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nikkibabe10 months ago
If only this pit bull from Alaska had worked as a "community organizer" making students aware of the dangers and immorality of illegitimate pregnancy, she would not have been in the position now of accepting an illegitimate grandchild in to her arms.
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I work as a volunteer at a local hospital and also at a school where my grand daughter is enrolled. There is no greater satisfaction to myself and the gratitude I get for my efforts.
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antibrainwasher10 months ago
Repubican hypocrites are crapping in their own bed. They are attacking community activists, while they attend the community church which is promoting creationism, home schooling, anti-abortion, no sex education and so on.
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beavith110 months ago
jeez. READ will you? she didn't jump on the Red Cross, the Boy Scouts, the Campfire Girls, just on a politically self serving 'community organization.'
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in a weird way, i applaud Palin's selection because it cements votes for O that he already had locked up, but it also energizes people to vote that may not have otherwise voted. i have sneaking suspicion that these 'new' voters won't be supporting O.
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Klarissa10 months ago
nik- worthwhile, yes. Leadership experience - Is it??
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amazed10 months ago
((If only this pit bull from Alaska had worked as a "community organizer" making students aware of the dangers and immorality of illegitimate pregnancy, she would not have been in the position now of accepting an illegitimate grandchild in to her arms))
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whatever happened to "there are no illegitimate babies only illegitmate parents". Or those who have been insisting that two parent homes aren't necessary to raising a child?
It is funny how fast you guys dump your core principles to trash someone with whom you don't agree.
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vidman0410 months ago
Your work may not be worthless but your posts certainly are, and mean, and nasty, and pointless, but keep up the good work...
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ladylou410 months ago
Hopefully, the American people saw through Palin's attempted comparison between her job as mayor and the O'Bamas work on the South Side of Chicago. Has anyone visited there lately? There is much to be done, but evidence of the work they accomplished there is real. Chicago is proud of its neighborhood communities, and collectively the neighborhoods build Chicago. Michelle Obama was instrumental too in building a network of "Public Allies," to reduce crime and unemployment. (http://www.barackobama.com/learn)
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Klarissa10 months ago
lady - but oh, those condemned buildings that Obama helped fund, sad waste of money
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JoseMadre10 months ago
Talk about grasping at straws! She wasn't belittling "community organizers" but was simply showing that being one does not qualify someone for the presidency and that the responsibilities of such a job are actually less in general than that of a small town mayor. Remember the context - Obama ridiculed her credentials by attacking her previous position as a small town mayor (completely ignoring the fact that she's governor of the largest state, the biggest oil producer and the only one that borders two foreign nations) while his executive resume consists of "community organizer" and chairing the Woods Fund on which domestic terrorist Bill Ayers served. It is akin to being a fry cook at Del Taco and ridiculing the cook at Denny's for trying to get a job as the assistant chef at Spago while maintaining that your experience at Del Taco qualifies you to be Spago's head chef.
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antibrainwasher10 months ago
She was reading the teleprompter. She was doing what she was told to do. She's a freaking moose in the headlights, she has no idea what is going on or what she is saying. She's never been to Chicago. I live in a city with more people than Alaska. Pathetic. She isn't qualified to run her own family, and she does a lousy job at that. Palin is the most unqualified moron ever to be selected for Vice, for the oldest most senile presidential candidate in the history of the US.
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Tangent00110 months ago
What she said was that a community organizer doesn't have any "real responsibilities". So yes, this IS insulting. Obama managed a staff of 13 and a budget of $400,000 as director of the Developing Communities Project. That may be small potatoes compared to being Governor, but that doesn't make Palin's comment any less belittling.
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CRYMTYPHON10 months ago
The simple fact
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For too many years now, the conservative right of America has been running on 'the simple facts', - falsehoods that turned war into peace, cowards into patriots, neglect into governance, theft into business.
When faced with complex issues, the right found a simple lie; and defended it with flag and bible and color-coded terror levels.
But like deficit spending, Jose, truth-deficits catches up with you eventualy.
The Republican party has become a crowd of babbling fools, cheering how they will bring change, - to the policies they still support; cheering how they are outsiders, - in their own regime.
McCain; rebelling against his own 25 years of service!
Modern 'rightists' label anyone who wants to bring real competition back to America, as 'socialists'.
Of course Obama is no socialist; he is a harvard lawyer who has made a fortune on his own efforts, and wants to see others have that same chance. Capitalism.
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beavith110 months ago
its been simple for O to same that McCain is just another W and that nothing will change under him.
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let me let you in on a secret. McCain is NOT Bush. by definition, whatever he does will be different.
since congress went blue, no pub congressperson can be accused of running the regime. Reid and Pelosi have already shown their incompetence. after two years, its time for them to go.
real competition to america? wtf? the only competition that O stands for is how he's going to compete for the income of Big Oil, the wealthy and the small business owner, all in the name of 'fairness'. whatever that means.
robin hood was a socialist. and so is O. there's no two ways to slice it. raising taxes and redistribution of wealth at Gov't whim IS socialism.
if he were a real capitalist, he'd craft tax and fiscal policy to favor investment, not take the money for the Gov'ts hare brained purposes.
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Locky1210 months ago
Nobody is mocking community organizers in church basements and community centers across the country working to improve their neighbors' lives. What deserves ridicule is the notion that Obama's brief stint as a South Side rabble-rouser for tax-subsidized, partisan nonprofits qualifies as executive experience you can believe in.
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cleare10 months ago
she was actively trying to diminish the importance of obama's experience as a community organizer, by diminishing the importance of community organizing. she DID make the phrase sound like a perjorative. conservatives have already successfully redefined the words "liberal" and "compromise".
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anyone doubting the importance of community activism should be reminded that "all politics are local". community organizing is how you acquire "street cred" and build a political career.
while obama was helping disenfranchised workers in south chicago, palin was shooting moose.
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ConsAreNonGrata10 months ago
There is a delicious irony in The Windfall Tax Kid mocking community organizers.
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For years, Cons have tried to tell us they are for "smaller" government, but then cheer when one of their own demeans those who choose to work in the community because they are not part of the government.
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Georgia5010 months ago
Sorry liberals. We're already overdosed on Grievance Theatre from Muslims who are more agitated by a frikkin cartoon than when a Muslim girl is gang-raped by her male relatives, then stoned to death by those same male relatives for bringing "dishonor" on the family by letting herself be gang-raped.
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antibrainwasher10 months ago
To put Palin anywhere next to Biden or Obama is a joke.
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What is it about Republicans, they just love to put unqualified morons in a position of power, then laugh when cities drown, or wars start, because they don't care a crap about anything but greed, racism, ignorance, religion and more greed.-
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amazed10 months ago
unqualified morons that let cities drown == you mean like Nagin and what's her face== the ex-governor of Louisiana?
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antibrainwasher10 months ago
Republican values as manifest in the most unqualified vice ever to be nominated for the PTA or Vice: Ignorance and religious dogma, racism, arrogance, self promotion and self serving, greed, greed, greed, greed, and more ignorance. The ability to attack people for what it is you are doing yourself. Like Haggarty preaching against gay marriage while being sodomized while smoking crack.
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antibrainwasher10 months ago
Republican fantasy: Jesus was a white rich status quo son of a rich white status quo conservative, Jesus hated blacks, mexicans, hated the poor, and worshipped the rich. Jesus wanted to create a Teliban theocracy where women didn't vote, and anyone with a non white skin was a slave with no rights.
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Jesus want to drill drill drill so he can drive his suv cheap, Jesus wants americans to buy all their cheap plastic crap at walmart, jesus was a televangelist rebublican ignorant money grupping greedy white man. Praise the baby jesus, Praise the pot smoking Palin, who neglects her children to run for govenour then accept the nomination for vice, praise the delusional swiftboating hyprocrites, republican jesus is on their side. -
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honestly410 months ago
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOES NOT....I REPEAT DOES NOT OWN AMERICA, PATRIOTISM, MILITARY SACRAFICE, 9/11 OR GOD!!!!!! THEY JUST THINK THEY DO!!!! AND I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THEM THINKING THEY DO!! THEY ALSO DON'T OWN THE RIGHTS TO USE ARTISTS WORK WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION! THEY OWE US ALL AN APOLOGY!
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Charlson10 months ago
"In theory, community organizing provides a way to merge various strategies for neighborhood empowerment. Organizing begins with the premise that (1) the problems facing inner-city communities do not result from a lack of effective solutions, but from a lack of power to implement these solutions; (2) that the only way for communities to build long-term power is by organizing people and money around a common vision; and (3) that a viable organization can only be achieved if a broadly based indigenous leadership — and not one or two charismatic leaders — can knit together the diverse interests of their local institutions."
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"This means bringing together churches, block clubs, parent groups and any other institutions in a given community to pay dues, hire organizers, conduct research, develop leadership, hold rallies and education campaigns, and begin drawing up plans on a whole range of issues — jobs, education, crime, etc. Once such a vehicle is formed, it holds the power to make politicians, agencies and corporations more responsive to community needs. Equally important, it enables people to break their crippling isolation from each other, to reshape their mutual values and expectations and rediscover the possibilities of acting collaboratively — the prerequisites of any successful self-help initiative."
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Karlyc10 months ago
What are the responsibilities of a community organizer? Who elects a community organizer?
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Ann071610 months ago
This is politics, folks. Can anyone tell me what exactly did Obama do as a community organizer? I'm just trying to understand EXACTLY what he did, his accomplishments as a community organizer. All it says in researched data is south side of Chicago, which is a very large area, what neighborhood specifically. And where did he get all his money? Not from that job. And not from the Senate. So where? Sorry, I'm trying to get convinced, I was a Hillary fan, I need convincing on Obama, someone out there help me!!!!!
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cleare10 months ago
community organizers are often volunteers. i thought conservatives were all about volunteerism. community organizers sometimes work for non-profit institutions for low pay and minimal benefits; often these non-profit institutions are church-based. i thought conservatives were enthusiastic supporters of faith-based activism. sometimes community organizers are paid for by grants paid for by corporations, public social institutions, private foundations and even neighborhood associations.
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the bottom line is that community organizers help communities to become more self-sufficient by addressing the specific needs of that particular community. i thought republicans were all about self-sufficiency.
becoming a community organizer is a calling, not a job. generally the individual sacrifices a gracious standard of living and top dollar earnings to help others. considering all this, how can some of you snipe about anyone involved in such noble causes?-
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amazed10 months ago
it is not that we are against volunteer work, it just is kind of funny that that is all Obama could come up with for executive experience -- while he's trashing Palin for being a small town mayor and the governor of Alaska. I will admit that Palin's experience is a bit thin, if any of you Obama supporters will do the same...
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yeah, I didn't think so.
As far as "how can you snipe about anyone involved in such noble causes?" that can go right back to so many of you on the left.
How dare the party who claims to be all about equal rights and equal opportunity for women (and minorities) snipe at a women for having both a family and a career?
How dare the party who claims to be all about the "common man" and the "working class" snipe at someone for going to a state university rather than an Ivy League school?
How dare those who are appalled at the thought of anyone even suggesting to teens that they are not ready for sex and insisting that there are no morals or right or wrong about sex outside of marriage attack this woman for having an unmarried pregnant daughter?
How dare this party, who always claims to be the party of the poor and downtrodden, imply that her unmarried, pregnant daughter makes her low -class and somehow unworthy?
Perhaps the values (or more precisely the lack of them) that you have foisted upon society over the past thirty years contributed to the kid not listening to what she was taught at home.
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injest10 months ago
“community organizers are often volunteers”
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sheilab210 months ago
Typical republican comment about community organizers. These selfish people only care about themslves. They care nothing about the poor, the sick or those less fortunate than they are. When those delegates to the republican convention booed and laughed at palins' remark about community organizers my heart sank. I can't believe any American could be so cruel, but I guess it is the republican genes to hate everyone who is not their mirror image. If the republicans get in we can only assme that only the rich will benefit and the rest of us will be on our own. God forbid.
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