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Posted By Neophile 1 year, 3 months ago in NewsLast night during her speech to the Republican National Convention, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) sought to play up her experience as mayor of a small town in Alaska by mocking community organizing.
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Neophile1 year, 3 months ago
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Here's a great little description of exactly what it was that Giuliani and Palin were mocking:
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antibrainwasher1 year, 3 months ago
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If you think having babies, one after the other, neglecting them while persuing your ambitions, is qualification for president, you probably are a republican shill. If you think smoking dope while becoming a extremist evangelical right wing moron is qualification for president, you are a republican shill, incapable of thinking for yourself
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amazed1 year, 3 months ago
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It never fails to stun and amuse me how quickly those on the left sink to comfortably insulting people by commenting negatively on their race, gender, gender identity or economic status.
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Governor Palin has been insulted because she chooses to have her career as well as a family. Should Obama drop out of the race because his children need him? Their still at home and THEIR mom works (or did until the campaign).
She has been insulted because of her education. Now, anyone who has anything to do with college applications knows that, when it comes to the Ivies, if your grades and SAT's are at a certain level (say, 1590 and 4.48 out or 4.5) it doesn't guarantee you admission, even if you are, say class valedictorian. My niece, a recent graduate of MIT, had these scores and didn't get accepted to any of the Ivies. I don't know what Ms. Palin's scores were, but then again, neither do you. To get into an Ivy, you need an edge -- being a minority (but not Asian) helps, having a special talent helps --but sports more than musical or artistic talent, having a parent who attended helps, but is still not a lock. Besides these other things you need a whole pile of luck.
With the comments about how many kids she has and how substandard her education is, comes the implication (and I haven't heard it said explicitly, but I'm sure it's coming) that she is trailer trash. Now, for democrats to use that as an insult -- whether explicitly or implicitly -- is truly a hoot as they always claim to be for the downtrodden and the poor and working class.
Apparently, they want to lord it over the poor and working class, who after all are ignorant fools churning out babies and need their guidance. It's painfully obvious from their rhetoric against Gov. Palin (as well as Obama's 'clinging to their religion and guns' gaffe) that they have absolutely no respect for those they claim to be the party of.
and they wonder why they are called elitist...
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pfjjl201 year, 3 months ago
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If you think that being in a marriage, having children and taking care of those children are the sole responsibility of the wife, then you must be a male chauvinist who still lives in his mother's basement. If YOU think we republican's cannot think for ourselves, then you need to smoke some more dope, follow your evangelical, terriorist supporting, loves his "God D*mn" American Pastor annoited fool straight to hell. And please have a pleasant trip!
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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If that were Obama's only community qualification, yes. Obama was also director of the Developing Communities Project.
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:"During [Obama's] three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization."-
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judithod1 year, 3 months ago
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Yes, this is the project that Obama was involved in with the guy he said was "just a neighbor"--the anarchist Bill Ayers. The project was a failure. Obama has some explaining to do on this one, but of course, the mainstream media has been giving him a pass.
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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If you think that supporting that your state SECEDE from the US Government, YOU don't set YOUR sights very high.
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Register democrat voters....give me a break. As if that's the ONLY thing Obama's ever done. Jesus.
It wouldn't matter who McCain put as his VP you NeoCon parrots would be screaming their praises day in and day out.
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fgismo01251 year, 3 months ago
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This is all the LIBERALS can do. Ever since Palin became the V.P.nominee, the press has been after her. You have not named one thing Obama has done. And don't use the LORD'S name. It won't save his rear. BIDEN doesn't even know that our next V.P. is a Governor. Who has the experience?
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scavfrank1 year, 3 months ago
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********.....communuity organizers are nothing but special interests who want federal funding for nothing and believe the government should pay for everyscrew up and when they do something wrong....its biased or racial, not my bad and lets correct it. She laid it on the line. As much as i dont like him...I was at ground zero Tues Sept 11 and 27 days after that. I saw him there. No community organizers to try to recruit help. Isnt that special.
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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Actually the organizers might like to demand that Palin give up her corruption and lies on many topics.
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Fact Check of Governor Palin's Speech
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PALIN: "It was the spirit that brought me to the governor's office, when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau … when I stood up to the special interests, the lobbyists, big oil companies, and the good-ol' boys network."
REALITY: PALIN HAS A LT. GOVERNOR WHO IS A FORMER OIL LOBBYIST, HIRED WASILLA'S FIRST FEDERAL LOBBYIST (A FORMER STEVENS STAFFER) & HAD THE SUPPORT OF ENTRENCHED ALASKA POLITICIANS DURING HER 2006 RACE.
Palin's Oil & Gas Appointee Is Former Lobbyist for TransCanada. "Marty Rutherford, who leads Gov. Sarah Palin's gas pipeline team, made $40,200 in 2003 while consulting in Juneau for a pipeline subsidiary of TransCanada. TransCanada is one of the companies bidding for a state license to build a pipeline to carry gas to market from Alaska's North Slope. It's not a disqualifier, but the past connection deserves a second thought." [Anchorage Daily News editorial, 12/15/07]
Palin "Counting on Her Lieutenant Governor Candidate… Former Oil Lobbyist" to Help Win Oil Industry Support. "The defiantly grass-roots nature of the campaign may have distanced her from certain traditional centers of power in Alaska. The oil industry is one -- but the campaign says it is counting on her lieutenant governor candidate, Parnell, a former oil lobbyist and legislator, to help there." [Anchorage Daily News, 10/24/06]
Palin's Former Chief of Staff is Stevens' Campaign Manager. "Monegan says pressure came from those around Palin, including former Palin chief-of-staff Mike Tibbles, Department of Administration Commissioner Annette Kreitzer, and director of boards and commissions Frank Bailey. Tibbles, who is now the campaign manager for Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, said Friday he couldn't comment on whether he spoke to Monegan about Wooten." [Anchorage Daily, 7/19/08]-
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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As Mayor, Palin Hired a Washington Lobbyist to Help Get Earmarks for Wasilla – Lobbyist Was Former Chief of Staff for Indicted Senator Ted Stevens. "And as mayor of the small town of Wasilla from 1996 to 2002, Palin also hired a Washington lobbying firm that helped secure $8 million in congressionally directed spending projects, known as earmarks, according to public spending records compiled by the watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste and lobbying documents. Wasilla's lobbying firm was headed by Steven Silver — a former chief of staff to Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, a key proponent of the bridge project." [USA Today, 8/31/08]
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The Usual Alaska Suspects - Ted Stevens, Don Young, And Lisa Murkowski Fundraised For Palin. "Will we see Ted Stevens stumping for Sarah Palin? Palin said this morning that Stevens appeared at a fund-raiser for her in Ketchikan and gave a speech about 'moving Alaska forward.' But does that mean he'll pop up in any advertisements? (Remember his arguably pivotal role at the end of the Knowles and Murkowski Senate race?) Palin said she doubts it and hasn't asked… She said Don Young came to one of her fund-raisers two days ago, and she expects Lisa Murkowski at an upcoming event. Tonight she planned to talk with John Binkley, who she says is writing a letter to his supporters on her behalf, and she planned to meet with Frank Murkowski tomorrow morning." ["The Trail" blog, Anchorage Daily News, 10/13/06]
In Her 2002 Campaign for Lieutenant Governor, Palin Raised 'About 10 Percent Of Her Campaign Fund' From Veco, An Oil Company At the Heart of Federal Investigation. "While mayor of Wasilla, Palin ran for lieutenant governor in 2002. She gathered $5,000 -- or about 10 percent of her campaign fund -- from Veco officials or their wives along the way." [Anchorage Daily News, 9/6/06]
http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/09/sara...
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injest1 year, 3 months ago
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MINNEAPOLIS -
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"Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Thursday blamed supporters of the Democratic presidential ticket for spreading "misinformation and flat-out lies" about her and her family."
Thats a fact Daily Kos MSNBC Huf po, think progress the list goes on,no doubt about it.
Apparently Obama supporters have no faith, zero, none, nada, zipo that Obama can win on issues so the resort to spreading lies and rumors.
Classic.
BTW did ya see the vid today of Obama after his interview with Bill O. He look shaken, distant, like a man who’s bubble just burst.
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International experience, as a Seven-year-old boy living in Indonesia
A Community Organizer, someone needs to let Obama in on the joke.
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Vladada1 year, 3 months ago
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Here's a joke. Being the Mayor of Wasilla Alaska, a Town with a population of approximately 7,000. There are High schools in NYC with not much less than that. So i guess Sarah Palin is qualified to be a NYC school principal. She's a joke and so is her party. Alaska has about half the population of the Bronx so that means that Mike Bloomberg could easily become master of the UNIVERSE using that as a comparison.
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miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
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As another commentator said:
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"Please remember, Jesus was a Community Organizer and Pontius Pilate was a Governor."
The responsibilities of being mayor of a town of 5,000 were so great that Palin had to hire a city administrator to run her town for her. That begs the question: Who is running Alaska?-
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ind061 year, 3 months ago
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The largest state in the union? well, physically, yes, but Alaska ranks 47 out of 52 in population. The population of the most populous state, California, is 36,553,215. The population of Alaska is 683,478. Alaska has approximately 2% of the population of California (rounding up), so, to say it's the largest state is a bit disingenuous.
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ecotourusa1 year, 3 months ago
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we are in a very serious time right now. this candidacy is just a distraction from what's really going on
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read more:
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/05/in-effec...-
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antibrainwasher1 year, 3 months ago
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Meant for comment below from the republican shill moron.
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Hypocrite, the community organizers like creationists, you love to death, poisoning the minds and lying to children, but let somebody hand out food to poor people outside a church, and watch you religicons froth at the mouth. You are sickening.
Fundamentalists like Palin all have some sexual secrets that motivates them to crow about how wonderful they are, like Haggarty, preaching against gay marriage while getting sodomized while smoking crack by a gay prosititute.
Palin was having affairs, her last downs baby is not from her husband. She was smoking pot and neglecting her kids while they were smoking pot and getting pregers.-
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DaneL1 year, 3 months ago
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"Palin was having affairs, her last downs baby is not from her husband. She was smoking pot and neglecting her kids while they were smoking pot and getting pregers."
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Do you have any proof of this or just another one of your stupid posts.-
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Klarissa1 year, 3 months ago
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I don't know what demo letter you got that from, but here is something for you:
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Today he published a chart arguing that part of what was driving the scrutiny of Sarah Palin is "anti-Republican liberal media bias," and he then went on Joe Scarborough's MSNBC show this morning to make the same claim:
There are three bad reasons [for the "frenzy" against Palin]. One is the liberal press. I think the McCain campaign is right that people are going after her harder than they would go after a Democratic Vice Presidential nominee.
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JOE BIDEN: PATHOLOGICAL LIAR AND FRAUD: It was also discovered that, while at Syracuse Law School, Biden had plagiarized a law review article in a class paper he wrote.
Biden said the act was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and Biden was permitted to retake the course after receiving a grade of F in the course.
Biden also released at the same time the record of his grades as an undergraduate which were C's and D's and an F in ROTC during his first three semesters.
Further, when questioned by a New Hampshire resident about his grades in law school Biden had claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class, (when he actually graduated 76th in a class of 85
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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I'd try doing more research. Obama was the director of the Developing Communities Project for three years.
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"During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization."-
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pfjjl201 year, 3 months ago
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Great for the people within the community...........what has he done on a state level?? When did he fight party corruption within his own party? I am for community organizers and projects. But in NO WAY does this give you any experience to be the President of the United States.
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Charlson1 year, 3 months ago
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"like Acorn is rebuilding neighborhoods? Acorn's only purpose is to register more voters for the democrats.
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that's the kind of neighborhood organizers, the self serving political ones, that she was skewering."
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fgismo01251 year, 3 months ago
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Communities are not destroyed by parties, but by individuals. If Welfare Reform is bad, why is it wrong to teach someone respect for themselves instead of having government give them a free ride? The problem with the Democrats is they believe free rides mean more votes. COUNTRY FIRST.
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Bonded1 year, 3 months ago
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Nobody is mocking community organizers in church basements and community centers across the country working to improve their neighbors' lives. What deserves ridicule is the notion that Obama's brief stint as a South Side rabble-rouser for tax-subsidized, partisan nonprofits qualifies as executive experience you can believe in.
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What deserves derision is "community organizing" that relies on a community of homeless people and ex-cons to organize for the purpose of registering dead people to vote, shaking down corporations and using the race card as a bludgeon. -- Michelle Malkin-
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Klarissa1 year, 3 months ago
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inverse - Right, and we ex-PTA presidents, community workers, and moms have a lot power.
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We are going to the polls and show you that small town volunteers can vote. Forget the "community organizers" who are doing their thing so they can register only those who will vote democrat.
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somecommonsense1 year, 3 months ago
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that was what he did when he finished Harvard...you arrogant little monster...he has never stated that his 3 years of work when he was just out of college qualifies him to be President...how ignorant are you, or how ignorant do you perceive Americans to be...you seem to leave out his position of editor of THE Harvard Law Review, I think Sarah Palin has a BA in journalism with high hopes to be on ESPN...noble indeed...he did the 3 years helping poor people in the slums of Chicago when he could have been making a mint, helping mostly people who had been laid of from the local steel plant. Obviously then going on to become State Senator for 7 years in 1997, he was in elected office before Hillary was..I think Palin had just won In Wassila with a whopping 650 votes for mayor. Then he became a US senator where he been for almost 3 years, where contrary to republicans passed BIPARTISAN legislation dealing with ethics reform, nuclear nonproliferation, veterans health care, transparency in govt contracts, children s health care, various educational issues, and much more, a simple google search will enlighten any republican of his accomplishments. Sarah palin is an empty skirt, a puppet a joke really, Sen. Barack Obama on the other hand is someone I feel has my best interests in mind and has the intelligence, and the judgment to properly navigate the times and make improvements on American governmental systems and ultimately American's lives, I trust his to create jobs, and improve world standing and security, I think McCain is too reckless and ideological and too ambitious with too many "scores" to settle to get anything meaningful done, especially now with Palin.
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simonsez1 year, 3 months ago
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Nine out of 15 stories today on Propellor trying to destroy Sarah and your cry baby Obama feels he is being treated unfairly.
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At least 1000 times, CNN and MSNBC referred to Sarah as a small town Mayor. Not one called her the Govenor of the state of Alaska, the largest state in the union.-
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spkguy1 year, 3 months ago
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There ya go again!
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From Ind06 above.
"The largest state in the union? well, physically, yes, but Alaska ranks 47 out of 52 in population. The population of the most populous state, California, is 36,553,215. The population of Alaska is 683,478. Alaska has approximately 2% of the population of California (rounding up), so, to say it's the largest state is a bit disingenuous."
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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Simon YOU are the DUMB ASS. As if being governor of the largest LAND MASS in the Union really makes you more qualified?
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You are truly an idiot.
I guess Putin is the best Prime Minister in the world, since Russia is the largest country....
Give me a break.
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sgf66711 year, 3 months ago
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GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!! She was the mayor of a SMALL town. Wasilla's population was only about 9000 if that while she was mayor and she only had a 6 person city council. Alaska is the largest state ONLY by land mass - POPULATION wise California is the largest state! So, basically, she is governor of a state with lots of acreage, not, people!
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Klarissa1 year, 3 months ago
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Published On Thursday, March 21, 1996 12:00 AM
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By THE CRIMSON STAFF
As Harvard College continues to flounder in the mires of grade inflation, we applaud the Law School for setting stricter limits on the number of students who graduate with honors.
Currently, 70 percent of graduating law students achieve the minimum grade point average to receive a cu*m laude degree. With that ridiculous fact staring them in the face, Law School faculty members overwhelmingly voted to bestow honors upon only 40 percent of the graduating class.
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Using a competitive process that takes into account first-year grades, an editing exercise, and a written commentary on a court decision, The Harvard Law Review selects between 41 and 43 editors annually from the second-year Law School class, which numbers 560.
Two editors from each of first-year class's seven sections (fourteen in all) are selected half by their first year grades and half by their scores on the writing competition.
Another twenty are selected solely on their scores on the writing competition. The other seven to nine are selected by a discretionary committee, either to fulfill the review's race-based affirmative action program, to select students who just missed the cut by either of the other two processes, or by some other criteria as the committee sees fit.
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Until the 1970's the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. (for those of you who don't know that is Summa cu*m laud, top 10%)
That system came under attack in the 1970's and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition.
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nikkibabe1 year, 3 months ago
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If only this pit bull from Alaska had worked as a "community organizer" making students aware of the dangers and immorality of illegitimate pregnancy, she would not have been in the position now of accepting an illegitimate grandchild in to her arms.
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I work as a volunteer at a local hospital and also at a school where my grand daughter is enrolled. There is no greater satisfaction to myself and the gratitude I get for my efforts.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 3 months ago
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Repubican hypocrites are crapping in their own bed. They are attacking community activists, while they attend the community church which is promoting creationism, home schooling, anti-abortion, no sex education and so on.
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beavith11 year, 3 months ago
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jeez. READ will you? she didn't jump on the Red Cross, the Boy Scouts, the Campfire Girls, just on a politically self serving 'community organization.'
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in a weird way, i applaud Palin's selection because it cements votes for O that he already had locked up, but it also energizes people to vote that may not have otherwise voted. i have sneaking suspicion that these 'new' voters won't be supporting O.
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amazed1 year, 3 months ago
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((If only this pit bull from Alaska had worked as a "community organizer" making students aware of the dangers and immorality of illegitimate pregnancy, she would not have been in the position now of accepting an illegitimate grandchild in to her arms))
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whatever happened to "there are no illegitimate babies only illegitmate parents". Or those who have been insisting that two parent homes aren't necessary to raising a child?
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fgismo01251 year, 3 months ago
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How you Liberals twist things. It was allright for one of your Democratic President's daughters to have a baby 5 months after she got married in the White House. Lyndon Baines Johnson's daughter. I guess if you're a Democrat it's fine to attack family. We don't vote family. We vote for President. If your family has no skeletons it's a miracle. You must be a LIBERAL.
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ladylou41 year, 3 months ago
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Hopefully, the American people saw through Palin's attempted comparison between her job as mayor and the O'Bamas work on the South Side of Chicago. Has anyone visited there lately? There is much to be done, but evidence of the work they accomplished there is real. Chicago is proud of its neighborhood communities, and collectively the neighborhoods build Chicago. Michelle Obama was instrumental too in building a network of "Public Allies," to reduce crime and unemployment. (http://www.barackobama.com/learn)
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 3 months ago
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The simple fact
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For too many years now, the conservative right of America has been running on 'the simple facts', - falsehoods that turned war into peace, cowards into patriots, neglect into governance, theft into business.
When faced with complex issues, the right found a simple lie; and defended it with flag and bible and color-coded terror levels.
But like deficit spending, Jose, truth-deficits catches up with you eventualy.
The Republican party has become a crowd of babbling fools, cheering how they will bring change, - to the policies they still support; cheering how they are outsiders, - in their own regime.
McCain; rebelling against his own 25 years of service!
Modern 'rightists' label anyone who wants to bring real competition back to America, as 'socialists'.
Of course Obama is no socialist; he is a harvard lawyer who has made a fortune on his own efforts, and wants to see others have that same chance. Capitalism.
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tehranchik1 year, 3 months ago
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Stewart does it best!
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cleare1 year, 3 months ago
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she was actively trying to diminish the importance of obama's experience as a community organizer, by diminishing the importance of community organizing. she DID make the phrase sound like a perjorative. conservatives have already successfully redefined the words "liberal" and "compromise".
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anyone doubting the importance of community activism should be reminded that "all politics are local". community organizing is how you acquire "street cred" and build a political career.
while obama was helping disenfranchised workers in south chicago, palin was shooting moose.-
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Georgia501 year, 3 months ago
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Really? Here's a current Drudge headline from the effectively community organzied city of Chicago...
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"Bloody Summer In City: 125 Dead In Chicago, Double Number Killed In Iraq..."
What the hell was Obama organizing? Target practice for the Crips and Bloods?-
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Charlson1 year, 3 months ago
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"Bloody Summer In City: 125 Dead In Chicago, Double Number Killed In Iraq..."
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And the deaths of our soldiers, journalists and diplomats in Iraq was avoidable back in 2003. And now it's 2008 and still the deaths keep coming. 5 years of avoidable deaths would be hard for any decent person to live down, but not for Bush or his clone, McBush and his loyal sidekick "Pit-Bull-with-the-lipstick" Palin.
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 3 months ago
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There is a delicious irony in The Windfall Tax Kid mocking community organizers.
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For years, Cons have tried to tell us they are for "smaller" government, but then cheer when one of their own demeans those who choose to work in the community because they are not part of the government.
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Georgia501 year, 3 months ago
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Sorry liberals. We're already overdosed on Grievance Theatre from Muslims who are more agitated by a frikkin cartoon than when a Muslim girl is gang-raped by her male relatives, then stoned to death by those same male relatives for bringing "dishonor" on the family by letting herself be gang-raped.
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abntv1 year, 3 months ago
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Good work Neo..
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Another left wing smear story...
Has anyone looked at who runs those so called Community Groups?
Tell me Neo...
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antibrainwasher1 year, 3 months ago
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To put Palin anywhere next to Biden or Obama is a joke.
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What is it about Republicans, they just love to put unqualified morons in a position of power, then laugh when cities drown, or wars start, because they don't care a crap about anything but greed, racism, ignorance, religion and more greed. -
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antibrainwasher1 year, 3 months ago
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Republican values as manifest in the most unqualified vice ever to be nominated for the PTA or Vice: Ignorance and religious dogma, racism, arrogance, self promotion and self serving, greed, greed, greed, greed, and more ignorance. The ability to attack people for what it is you are doing yourself. Like Haggarty preaching against gay marriage while being sodomized while smoking crack.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 3 months ago
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Republican fantasy: Jesus was a white rich status quo son of a rich white status quo conservative, Jesus hated blacks, mexicans, hated the poor, and worshipped the rich. Jesus wanted to create a Teliban theocracy where women didn't vote, and anyone with a non white skin was a slave with no rights.
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Jesus want to drill drill drill so he can drive his suv cheap, Jesus wants americans to buy all their cheap plastic crap at walmart, jesus was a televangelist rebublican ignorant money grupping greedy white man. Praise the baby jesus, Praise the pot smoking Palin, who neglects her children to run for govenour then accept the nomination for vice, praise the delusional swiftboating hyprocrites, republican jesus is on their side. -
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honestly41 year, 3 months ago
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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOES NOT....I REPEAT DOES NOT OWN AMERICA, PATRIOTISM, MILITARY SACRAFICE, 9/11 OR GOD!!!!!! THEY JUST THINK THEY DO!!!! AND I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THEM THINKING THEY DO!! THEY ALSO DON'T OWN THE RIGHTS TO USE ARTISTS WORK WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION! THEY OWE US ALL AN APOLOGY!
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Charlson1 year, 3 months ago
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"In theory, community organizing provides a way to merge various strategies for neighborhood empowerment. Organizing begins with the premise that (1) the problems facing inner-city communities do not result from a lack of effective solutions, but from a lack of power to implement these solutions; (2) that the only way for communities to build long-term power is by organizing people and money around a common vision; and (3) that a viable organization can only be achieved if a broadly based indigenous leadership — and not one or two charismatic leaders — can knit together the diverse interests of their local institutions."
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"This means bringing together churches, block clubs, parent groups and any other institutions in a given community to pay dues, hire organizers, conduct research, develop leadership, hold rallies and education campaigns, and begin drawing up plans on a whole range of issues — jobs, education, crime, etc. Once such a vehicle is formed, it holds the power to make politicians, agencies and corporations more responsive to community needs. Equally important, it enables people to break their crippling isolation from each other, to reshape their mutual values and expectations and rediscover the possibilities of acting collaboratively — the prerequisites of any successful self-help initiative."
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Ann07161 year, 3 months ago
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This is politics, folks. Can anyone tell me what exactly did Obama do as a community organizer? I'm just trying to understand EXACTLY what he did, his accomplishments as a community organizer. All it says in researched data is south side of Chicago, which is a very large area, what neighborhood specifically. And where did he get all his money? Not from that job. And not from the Senate. So where? Sorry, I'm trying to get convinced, I was a Hillary fan, I need convincing on Obama, someone out there help me!!!!!
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cleare1 year, 3 months ago
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community organizers are often volunteers. i thought conservatives were all about volunteerism. community organizers sometimes work for non-profit institutions for low pay and minimal benefits; often these non-profit institutions are church-based. i thought conservatives were enthusiastic supporters of faith-based activism. sometimes community organizers are paid for by grants paid for by corporations, public social institutions, private foundations and even neighborhood associations.
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the bottom line is that community organizers help communities to become more self-sufficient by addressing the specific needs of that particular community. i thought republicans were all about self-sufficiency.
becoming a community organizer is a calling, not a job. generally the individual sacrifices a gracious standard of living and top dollar earnings to help others. considering all this, how can some of you snipe about anyone involved in such noble causes?-
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amazed1 year, 3 months ago
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it is not that we are against volunteer work, it just is kind of funny that that is all Obama could come up with for executive experience -- while he's trashing Palin for being a small town mayor and the governor of Alaska. I will admit that Palin's experience is a bit thin, if any of you Obama supporters will do the same...
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yeah, I didn't think so.
As far as "how can you snipe about anyone involved in such noble causes?" that can go right back to so many of you on the left.
How dare the party who claims to be all about equal rights and equal opportunity for women (and minorities) snipe at a women for having both a family and a career?
How dare the party who claims to be all about the "common man" and the "working class" snipe at someone for going to a state university rather than an Ivy League school?
How dare those who are appalled at the thought of anyone even suggesting to teens that they are not ready for sex and insisting that there are no morals or right or wrong about sex outside of marriage attack this woman for having an unmarried pregnant daughter?
How dare this party, who always claims to be the party of the poor and downtrodden, imply that her unmarried, pregnant daughter makes her low -class and somehow unworthy?
Perhaps the values (or more precisely the lack of them) that you have foisted upon society over the past thirty years contributed to the kid not listening to what she was taught at home.
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yesitszoe11 year, 3 months ago
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I am sorry these people are so upset. BUT can one person .. kindly send me a help wanted ad that lists this so called JOB? I have never , ever seen one.
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I know there are neighborhood busy bodies who poke their nose into places.. but a job?-
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sheilab21 year, 3 months ago
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Typical republican comment about community organizers. These selfish people only care about themslves. They care nothing about the poor, the sick or those less fortunate than they are. When those delegates to the republican convention booed and laughed at palins' remark about community organizers my heart sank. I can't believe any American could be so cruel, but I guess it is the republican genes to hate everyone who is not their mirror image. If the republicans get in we can only assme that only the rich will benefit and the rest of us will be on our own. God forbid.
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lloydm651 year, 3 months ago
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What in the world are you wimps crying about, I thought Obama Mama,and papa Biden had this election in the bag.Besides even if Obama loses in the fifty continental United states, there will still be seven states up for grabs.Could a good place to dump all you Libs, leftist,Marxist.
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fdl1 year, 3 months ago
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So very tired of all the talk that the Dems will raise taxes - so will the GOP - higher taxes are inevitable. The deficit is ridiculous, the $$$ amounts we owe to foreign powers like China, the continued amounts we use to support Iraq - all this and more mean higher taxes. The biggest difference between the two parties is that Dem taxing is more obvious, while GOP taxing is more obscure, less easy to put a finger on, e.g., McCain's health care package gives Americans $5K for insurance, then proceeds to tax employee health insurance payroll contributions which can easily come close to $12-15K per yr. So we all lose the pre-tax option on those premiums that we now are entitled to. Stop kidding yourselves - doesn't matter who gets elected - higher taxes are coming - just decide on whether you want them coming through your front door or sneaking in through the back.
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Also, how many more cuts can programs that help the poor, mentally/physically disabled, veterans, elderly...the list is goes on - how much more can get cut in order for the GOP to keep Bush's tax cuts? By the way, Palin stated that she plans to help parents of children with disabilites - is she going to reinstate the funding that has been ripped away from these same families since Bush has been in office? -
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catndryer1 year, 3 months ago
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GEE.......WE HAVE PEOPLE TO GET THEM A JOB.....WE HAVE PEOPLE TO TREAT THEM WHEN THEY ARE SICK.....WE HAVE PEOPLE TO DRIVE THEM AROUND IN NICE PRETTY BUSES........AND NOW........WE HAVE PEOPLE TO ORGANIZE THEM.
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I'M JUST CURIOUS.....ARE THE PEOPLE THEY ARE ORGANIZING ALL PARAPLEGICS......CAUSE IF NOT.....YOU'D THINK THEY COULD DO SOME OF THIS STUFF FOR THEMSELVES. -
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nuchatter1 year, 3 months ago
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if you were on your deathbead, would Palin's comment be anywhere on your mind? LIfe is too short to be offended by someone's comments. If this is the worst thing said about you, you should be happy. Just keep doing a great job. As long as you know, who cares what anyone thinks. You are doing the job for the community, not recognition.
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Recce11 year, 3 months ago
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Antibrainwasher: Liberal Democratic fantasy - How about if I claimed that liberal Democratic demagogues like you believed that Jesus didn't exist; there's no God. Bible is a book of fables that were faked. There's no guilt; morality is relative; there's no one to answer to except oneself? Would I be being unfair?
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It's obvious you haven't a clue what Republicans believe about God, Jesus, or the Bible except what you read on far left hate sites like the DailyKos, Moveon.org, and the Huffington Post. It's also obvious that as a partisan demagogue you have a need to resort to canards, innuendoes, and prevarications, ad hominem attacks. I honestly think that's all you far left liberal Democrats are capable of doing. You claim we're racists. Is that because we won't vote for Obama who happens to be black? You claim we’re wrong. Is that because we won’t vote for a socialist who wants to institute a socialist welfare nanny state, who wants to make the US into a semi-isolationist open borders country, and who wants to use environmental laws to make the US into a 3rd world country?
Of course the community organizers are angry and demand an apology. That’s their job; create strife, anger, and a sense of entitlement due to a victimization worldview. It’s the position of socialist/communist agitators who try to intimidate governments and businesses. Their ranks contain the type of agitators who rile up crowds, throw bottles and rocks from behind the lines, run and then complain when the police use force against “violent” demonstrators.
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bybfan1 year, 3 months ago
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I thought Rudy Guiliani made a complete a of himself and Palin - I have news for you -- not all women are falling for your little game. This is one republican voter that will be voting democratic.
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GOP out of touch with reality!
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bybfan1 year, 3 months ago
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ALSO -- AS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN VOTER VOTING FOR OBAMA/BIDEN THIS YEAR
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WHAT A PITY FOR THOSE THAT ARE USING RELIGION AND ETC. WITH LIES TO GET GOP ELECTED. GO TELL YOUR FRIENDS AT CHURCH - AND YES I AM A CHURCH GOER THAT SPREADING LIES ABOUT SOMEONE --- IS A FAKE CHRISTIAN.-
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fgismo01251 year, 3 months ago
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Who started the religious issue? I believe it was Obama who denounced his church's minister after sitting there and listening to his hatred against white people for 20+years before he found it to his benefit to denounce him. Isn't that being a fake Christian? I believe in my minister until I run for President. Then he can go to HELL when it appears a woman will beat me. Your caps are annoying also. You are not a conservative or you would not vote for a LIBERAL run ticket. Stupid.
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Lindarma1 year, 3 months ago
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community organizer? I know quite a lot about that!!! And I am sure communist Saul Alinsky is proud of you all. Agitators, some professional litigators, rabble rousers... that's all a community organizing really is. Community organization is what elected mayors, ward representatives, and city councils are for.
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Poulenc1 year, 3 months ago
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The Repub condescension toward community organizers was matched only by that towards its own "base."
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Astounding how out of one side of their mouths Mc Cain and Co. can defend "real people," i. e., ordinary folks, while out of the other sell them short by dishing community organizers, who work hard to help the poor and otherwise marginal/disenfranchised get a leg up.
And by cynically picking Palin for VP.
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lauesenc1 year, 3 months ago
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Sarah Palin wasn't putting down community organizers she was stating that just because you are a community organizer doesn't mean that you are qualified to be the President of the United States.
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naota1 year, 3 months ago
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"These Black Ethics must be taught and exampled in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered . . . .
The highest level of achievement for any Black person must be a contribution of substance to the strength and continuity of the Black of the Black Community. . . . .
The God of our weary years will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism and become Black Christian Activist, soldiers for Black freedom" . .. . . . . . .
This church also preaches hatred against whites, and donates money to the Nation Of Islam - which calls Jews, "a gutter people with a gutter religion"
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AngelInArmor1 year, 3 months ago
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Save your comments. You obviously do not understand the STRUGGLE that we've come through. Being physicall beaten and hung. Torn apart from our country and families made to work for the lazys without pay. Don't even comment. You are obvious oblivious or in denial of the TRUTH and what we as a "black" people have come through.
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For the record, Obama is a product of a black man and a white woman which makes him mixed. He is only accountable for Obama not every fart that comes from his pastor, freinds, family or constituants. I don't think that anyone is "worried" about Sarah's daughter. I think they are concerned about the double-standard the the Right sets. If it were Obama's daughter you Right-Wingers would be digging dirt! Just as you are Pro-Lifers you should also be Anti-War since war takes away life. Hypocrites! Consider your ways!-
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fgismo01251 year, 3 months ago
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You are the HYPOCRITE. Backing Obama because he is black. He is a great speaker with a big mouth with no leadership.It is not about his race. It's about leadership or lack of. And as most LIBERALS you brought up the race issue. All us PENNSYLVANIAS know is religion and rifles. DAMN RIGHT. And we don't owe blacks anything. The Civil War occurred 145 years ago to free the slaves. It was a Republican who changed that. We did not bring your ancestors here. Look at history. Many of your ancestors were sold by your own people into slavery. I was not alive then. Don't let history repeat itself. Obama is not ready.
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mr2nole1 year, 3 months ago
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To anyone out there: Community orgs, Dems, Republicans, Independents< Why do any one of you care what ANYBODY has to say about you as long as you know yourself who you are? Why do you care what anybodies opinion is? I really don't get that any one values what another human being says as a life changing event when you either know that you are not what the other person called you or you know deep down that YOU believe in what you are doing is for the best Please some one explain it to me and feel free to call me a name if it helps you sleep at night
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mphalc241 year, 3 months ago
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Folks! The point Governor Palin was making is that she is a Governor and that her experience if greater than Obama's. It is not insult to community organizers!! The facts are facts and she was making a fair point. There was no despairing comments saying that community organizers don't count or aren't needed. But some people want to get huffy and offended to try to throw the political discussion out of balance hoping it will fall in their favor. Palin is a great selection for VP and Obama blew it big time when we turned a cold sholder to Hillary and selected a political crony who represented the best of the 'old politics.' Obama's first decision was a poor one and he will have to live with it.
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judithod1 year, 3 months ago
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Talk about overly sensitive folks making a mountain out of a mole hill! Palin was not condemning the work of all community organizers. She was refuting the Obama campaign's mockery of her as being just a small town mayor as well as Obama's ill-conceived comment about people from small towns "clinging to their guns and Bibles." Moreover, if you read the article entitled "Making It," in the July 21, 2008 issue of the New Yorker magazine (a liberal publication by the way), you will note this comment on Obama's community organizing "achievements": "As a community organizer, he [Obama] tried to turn a partnership of churches into a political force on the South Side. But the work accomplished very little." In other words, Obama's 3-year stint as a community organizer does not pad his qualifications for the presidency.
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annettecounsel1 year, 3 months ago
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I thought it was very amusing that speakers belittled community organizers and then at the
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end of McCain's speech he shouted out to the audience that they should go out and do something good for their community .. like volunteer and help others. This is like the left
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Poulenc1 year, 3 months ago
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Mphalc and others: Palin was belittling Obama's experience as a community organizer.
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One could hardly get any mileage out of that move if people didn't wish to believe that community organizing has no merit, is dilletantish.
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Bonded1 year, 3 months ago
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Poulenc, Who threw the first punch here? Obama was the one who criticized her first for her lack of experience. The Obama campaign couldn't even acknowledge she was the govenor even though she has been a working govenor longer than Obama has been a working senator; instead portraying her as a small town mayor. Of course, why not? Their actions towards Hilary indicate they don't think much of female abilities anyway; why stop now?
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Did you really think that Palin wasn't going to respond to the critcism when she was on the national stage? Better face it, the Obama camp screwed this one up big time. It would have been better for them to welcome her graciously to the game and wait until the convention had passed before trying to antagonize the Republicans. It is further evidence about the lack of forsight the Democrats possess.
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renziel1 year, 3 months ago
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Well if I was fortunate enough to have a "stay at home husband" for my five kids, a mansion, a nanny, a private luxury jet, and a chef....I would certainly NOT critizize or belittle the work of community organizers! No, I have five kids, no stay at home hubby, (we both have to work 2 jobs) a car that barely runs, and the only chef I see is on a can of "Chef Boyardee"! But pathetic a life as it is, we still find time to stand in the soup line and help feed the homeless.
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I know, first hand what it is like to see people laying on the streets, no home, no food. And who do yo think helps these people? Not the basketball playing-moose hunting-family value preaching Queen of Alaska! Gimme a break here! -
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injest1 year, 3 months ago
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“Community organizations have been at the heart of every major reform in modern history – from the Boston Tea Party to the civil rights movement for example, the quest for civil rights began when community organizers mobilized the disenfranchised.”
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Actually she was mocking Obama claim that being a community Organizer
Is akin to actually real executive experience.
And to put an explanation point on it She’s been in elected office for 16 years and is Gov of Alaska with an 80% plus approval rating.
When you have 80% approval, that kinda sorta says for the most part people are happy with what your doing.
And that ,being a good public leader kinda sorta eliminates the need for “community Organizers” ya think?
BTW 75% of Democrats gave her high approval rating.
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FancyLulu1 year, 3 months ago
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Isn't Alaska Gov. Pallin the one that allowed arial shooting of all grey wolves?, and also wanted to offer a 2,500 for the leg of such animal but was outvoted. I just want to know if this is how she deals with things that offend her. In a world that has expanded so much into animal territory I sure as hell cant trust her for any kind of conservatrion plan human or otherwise. I also dont like Obama because of the speculation that he has received millions of annonymous donations from middle east. So I will not be voting not because I forgot, but because between these two nothing is going to change for the lower income person. Also can we get a vote on how long we should support ex-presidents? its not like they dont get millions for their version of "Memoirs"
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brushsong1 year, 3 months ago
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seriously worry about something more important. think about this: her comment was meant to offend one person only, Obama. so don't for one second think that your job doesn't have real responsibilities. you know what you do and what you mean to the community. so get over the comment and move on. there is someone always offending another and it's all about interpretation.
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Poulenc1 year, 3 months ago
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Bonded, politics IS punch after punch...but some are cheap and/or below the belt.
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Some make people despair for public debate....for the ideal of civility. For the protection of morale.
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LAMcCorn1 year, 3 months ago
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As a progressive pastor and a former community organizer, I was not only offended by the arrogant, patronizing comments by Guiliani and Palin, I was disgusted! Community Organizers are the ones who empower people to take back their government, rebuild their communities and reclaim the real American dream. I hope that this will awaken and arouse organizers and grass roots leaders to rally against this attack on true democracy. This ought to really rally the grass roots to rise up.
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jolar1 year, 3 months ago
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But you will buy Obama's criminal friends that help him get a house, an evil pastor's influence for the past 20 years , and his serious lack of experience (because the absolute truth is that whatever lack of experience Palin is accused of having , Obama's record undoubtedly shows much less) etc., etc.,. And as far as community organizer's are concerned, if you are really offended by what is being said about Obama's lack of experience for this top job is because the BEST thing he can report on his resume is his community organizer experience. then I'm offended because I have a college education and I bet that won't be good enough to be elected for President Of the United States. Get over yourselves. The Community organizers used as examples in this blog would never have been elected, (especially if that 's the best and only experience thay could tout).. That should make yuo feel better...
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echo4texas1 year, 3 months ago
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One of the biggest difference between the two camps is one will say anything about the other and then claim they are "offended" by something said about them. Mccain supposedly had an affair, nope, Mrs Pallin supposedly is covering for her daughter having a special needs child, nope, untrue. Not a word from these "activists" who claim to be out for the good of all. On the other hand, Mrs Pallin says community activist may have goals but no requirements of success. They do not sell a product or service. None the less, they are offended that someone isn't politically correct in kissing their ass! It is my guess, these people have degrees and little more, over-schooled and under-educated.
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VF-321 year, 3 months ago
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You all are right Palin is no a Communithy Organizer......She is a PLAN A BABY WITH MY TEEN ***** DAUGHTER. WHAT VALUES WAS SHE PREACHING AT HOME?
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So now being a teen mom is RIGHT. Wrong. See you where raised properly by your parents, this kind of thing will not happen. I have 4 sisters, 6 female cousins and none of them or thier friends got pregnant. So I Gov.Palin' s practice what she preaches then her TEEN ***** would not be in the spotlight . I bet her TEEN ***** have experiment with alchol and drugs b/c if your HIGH MORAL VALUES NEGLIGENT mom(PALIN). Thanks for giving our party the candidates with MORAL ISSUES.......LIBERAL McCain cheated on his sick wheelchair bound wife with his new plastic ***** CINDY. He even went and got a marriage certificate months before he was divorced from his first family. The religious right should not support the tickek. Don't preach family values and do not follow through with practicing it.I will not support the McCain/Palin ticket -
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wagthedog1 year, 3 months ago
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Attacking the Democratic majority elected in 2006 as do-nothing is unfair not only because Bush vetoed several bills paased by majorities in both houses of Congress (including some Republican votes) but because if the Republicans do not agree with a bill they can obstruct it in the Senate -- where it takes 60 votes to get a bill passed. The Democrats do not have anywhere near 60 votes in the Senate, and Lieberman is not a Democrat any more, so that's one vote less. This makes Bush vetoes even more opposite to the will of the people since any bill that passes the Senate had bipartisan support.
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crownscaster1 year, 3 months ago
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The only point Palin and co. was trying to make is that BEING A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER DOES NOT MAKE YOU FIT TO BE PRESIDENT!! And she is right!
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All you people attacking Palin and McCain are just afraid of LOSING because McCain and Palin have ALL THE MOMENTUM right now and Obama looks WAY unqualified to be President. This could be a landslide in McCain's favor!! He is a GENIUS for picking Palin. Now all the dems are shaking in their boots and trying to do EVERYTHING they can to discredit her.
Michelle Obama was never proud to be an American untill OBAMMER ran for President. SICK.
Palin has run a town. She has run a state. She can run a country!!! What has OBAMMER run? NOTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE. THAT IS SCARY
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spiritualchild21 year, 3 months ago
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I am a proud MSW (masters in social work), and before that I did lots of community organizing. Most people who are church or spiritual people do community work, and many others such as the wonderful Martin Luther King Jr. also did it as well. Where would we be without these activists and organizers? Wed be back in the stone age, with women being treated like dirt, and African Americans being treated the same. Things have come a long way, and I was disgusted by Sarah Palin's hateful and condesending comments. Her ranting of put downs made me sick to my stomach thinking that Americans have elected for 8yrs someone who has led us down the path not to Bin Laden, or Afghanistan, but to Iraq? People dying needlessly in a war that should be in Afghanistan and over with by now? Her hateful comments completely clash with McCain's mostly respectful, (however not talking about issues)speech. He said he wanted to unite all parties together. Her behavior was sickening to women. She could have presented herself as a class act, but instead just became what people refer too as a, "bitch" in plain English. I am terrified that Americans will be as blind and lazy as to think that they should vote in a pretty but hateful face to lead this country. I dont want to go there. Barach Obama's change I have learned is not being disrespectful, but giving and letting us participate in a change of truth, and power that we have not had with the dictator that is in charge now. How can the media talk about Palin as if she were a goddess thats brilliant? She was demeaning, viscious, and would be a humiliation to this country. I pray that people wake up from the crazy sleep they have been in for 8 yrs! Is this what you want America? Is that the best you can do? If they get elected, Im leaving the country, Ive had enough! ONe more thing, the media has bent over backwards to kiss the republicans butt, and IM tired of it. How bout some old fashioned responsible impartial reporting? Boy have we gone down the tubes.
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Thank God for people like Barach Obama,Michael Moore, Gloria Steinham, Martin Luther King/ and more...all community activists and organizers. Wake up AMerica and smell the crap that is being given to you!!!-
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spiritualchild21 year, 3 months ago
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One other thing, I am repulsed by the fact that I have to even see this kind of behavior in politics and where the country has gone. I have been patriotic all my life, and love my country and I have to educate my daughter about this? We cant go down, we have to get up and get back the power of the people, and the dignity that this country has. We need to be able to look our children in their eyes and be proud of our country and how we are shaping it.
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BROSIHK1 year, 3 months ago
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Wow! All these nasty attacks! I wish we could get a psychologist into this conversation to see what all this mean-spiritedness is all about. As I heard Obama say a few weeks ago, if the country is ready for his presidency, then it will happen. If McCain becomes president, then we need to hope and pray for prosperity for our nation. We will pray that he becomes capable of obtaining a deeper perspective into how much the middle and lower class people of this nation are hurting right now.
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fgismo01251 year, 3 months ago
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I don't believe the truth was stretched. Under Governor Palin's lead Alaska has seen a boom. She fought the Party leaders and she won. This was not a diss of community leaders. This was a diss of Obama himself. He never led. That is the point. Even while serving his own state instead of voting on an issue he voted PRESENT. in Washington he was always voting party lines. Most LIBERAL SENATOR. Community leaders lead, not follow. Get with it all you LIBERAL CLOWNS.
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shera7161 year, 3 months ago
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I'll enter this debate. I am a "community organizer", but I volunteer my time. I sit on a number of boards and I am the person who establishes the budgets that work, puts together the plans for the various programs, is literate enough to write a successful grant application so these programs can be funded, and actually goes out and makes the projects happen.
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Many (not all) of the paid persons on our staffs are completely incompetent. My opinion is that if you are being paid in your role then you have a job just like anyone else and you are not providing some great service; you are simply doing what you are being paid to do. And none of the persons I work with is underpaid based upon his or her skill sets. It is great if you believe in the projects you are paid to work on, but when you are actually volunteering your time and money then I will believe your level of commitment.
I recently resigned from one organization I was affiliated with. Their stated policy was to put low income and very low income persons in the decision-making positions and positions of power within the organization. Why? These people have already proven they are not capable of making good decisions. "Well, these are the people that this program is designed to help" is the pathetic reason given.
That is like putting a bunch of 5 year olds in charge of kindergarten. I have no problem with letting the 5 year olds decide whether they would like mac and cheese or hot dogs for lunch, but they are not going to establish the budget; decide when, where, and how classes are conducted; and hire the staff. That is not within their skill set. If we want them to have these skills, we need to teach them.
The people who are involved in these community projects need to learn the same way that those of us in business learned: by paying attention to the things that others were trying to teach us. I didn't get to be the boss my first day of work, or the tenth, or the 100th!
I get tired of arguing with someone with no experience and no education about how funds should be expended. My business ventures and my projects are successful and I am able to feed, house, and clothe myself. And I started from nothing, so I will submit that maybe I do have some idea of what I am talking about. -
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shera7161 year, 3 months ago
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Obviously my last post was too long to fully display, so here is the remainder of my original post.
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A successful non-profit or community service organization operates just as a for-profit business does. You need an effective business plan, you need a valid budget, and you need competent persons to carry out the plan. I tell many of the organizations that I work with "There is a place for anyone in any given project; however, sometimes that place is baking cookies for the meeting." The mark of a good manager is knowing what people's strengths and weaknesses are and placing them in positions where they can use their strengths and minimize their weaknesses.
Oh, and by the way, I work full time in my "day job" and I volunteer more time on many of these projects than the staff members we are actually paying to do the projects. Real "community organizers" already know that they are making a difference and they are proud of the projects they are involved in. As always, the people complaining that Ms. Palin's statement was offensive to community organizers are those who aren't contributing! -
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BROSIHK1 year, 3 months ago
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Bottom line to it all...the majority of Republicans will say anything to get elected. It's been proven time and time again. They have been working on this process called "framing" for about 50 years now. It's how we have had Republicans in control of the White House and Congress for so long (well, we did start to wake up in 2006). Karl Rove is excellent at saying one thing but meaning another (framing). Because they know that the average American would not vote for them if they knew what their positions really were. So basically they think we're a bunch of idiots. I pray that they do not insult the intelligence of 300,000,000 Americans again.
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honestly41 year, 3 months ago
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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOES NOT....I REPEAT DOES NOT OWN AMERICA, PATRIOTISM, MILITARY SACRAFICE, 9/11 OR GOD!!!!!! THEY JUST THINK THEY DO!!!! AND I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THEM THINKING THEY DO!! THEY ALSO DON'T OWN THE RIGHTS TO USE ARTISTS WORK WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION!
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HORIZONS WILL WIDEN WITH OBAMA AND BIDEN!!!!! -
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rosebud9991 year, 3 months ago
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There goes that liberal media again. They are just trying to embarrass Sarah Plain with their lies.
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I have no idea what a community organizer does. It sounds like someone in league with Satan.
We need her. We need her to be President, not just Vice-President.
We need her to stand-up for family values; stand against the purveyors of filth and birth-control (I call it murder). Stop the sodomites and the baby killers. Fight the heathens and lead a crusade in the name of the Lord.
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