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Posted By pc25 1 year, 4 months ago in NewsThe Honorable Senator Barack Obama
This is clearly the must-watch video of the day. If you click it, stay the entire two minutes. I promise you the time is well-spent.
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pc251 year, 4 months ago
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Sabretooth1 year, 3 months ago
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Spinner, where is this country of which you speak, certainly not Iraq? I would just like to ask you where you get your propaganda from friend? It is ignorant folks like yourself Spinner that allow your government to be the world terrorists that they are.
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kobzikov1 year, 3 months ago
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Yes, there is no need for rape rooms, at least for raping women, because that kind of thing can be done behind the corner nowadays with Iraqi government doing nothing about it, which is why women need male escorts to get around.
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http://dahrjamailiraq.com/hard_news/archives/newsc...
Now if you are talking about something more exotic like rape rooms for men, something that even Saddam didn't have, then for that you gotta go to Abu Ghraib or similar "detention" facilities.
Women had more rights when Saddam was in power
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...
If there is no murder of opposition why do Iraqi politicians live and gather in the Green Zone?
No torture of dissenters??? Really? I don't remember seeing any marches against Muqtada al-Sadr in Sadr City. Must be because of all that freedom that Iraqis have.
What concerns hoarding of revenues then can you remind all of us how much surplus billions that Maliki government is looking at for the end of the year? Was it $79 billion? How much of that are they spending? Or are you saying that if the hoarding is not done by a megalomaniac then it's perfectly fine?-
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Spinward1 year, 3 months ago
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I had no idea you were such a strong supporter of Saddam!
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I stand corrected. Saddam was a just and wonderful ruler with a love for humanity who was doing a good job for his people. Surely the Iraqis are much worse off now than when they had the Obamessiah's champion, Saddam Hussein in power.
Please accept my apology.
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italymeetsdixie1 year, 3 months ago
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Given the many difficulties that our powerful military have encountered while occupying (liberating) this country, it seems to me that he really had no choice to rule with an iron fist.
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I am not saying that he was right, but he wasn't any more vicious than we are with the people there. With the exception we have "trials" before we execute them.
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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To understand this post you have to know that the source is from extremist zioncons who just love the idea of killing americans in the mideast to cover up zionist crimes against humanity.
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You really should ask yourself if having israel-firster zionists running our foreign policy and military in the mideast is in our best interests. You might also ask yourself why they keep pushing the same old tired lies over and over and over.
General Petraeus: Zionism’s Military Poodle: From Surge to Purge to Dirge
.... In theory and strategy, in pursuit of defeating the Iraqi resistance, General Petraeus was a disastrous failure, an outcome predictable form the very nature of his appointment and his flawed wartime reputation.
In the first instance Petraeus was a political appointment. He was one of the few high military officials who shared Bush and the Zioncons’ assessment that the ‘war could be won’. Petraeus argued that his experience in Northern Iraq were replicable throughout the rest of the country. Moreover Petraeus, unlike most military analysts, was willing to ignore the heavy costs of multiple prolonged tours of duty on US troops. Petraeus willingness to ignore the larger costs of prolonged military engagement in Iraq has weakened the capacity of the US to sustain its world-wide imperial interests. For Petraeus, sacrificing the overall cohesion and structure of the US military in Iraq, the global interests of the empire and the US domestic budget were worth securing Bush’s appointment as ‘Commander of the Forces in Iraq’. Shortly after taking office and in the face of massive domestic, international and Iraq demands for the withdrawal of US troops, Petraeus took the path dictated by the US and pro Israeli militarists in the Bush Administration and their powerful ‘Lobby’. He escalated the war, by calling up more troops, what he euphemistically referred to as ‘the surge’ – a massive call-up of 40,000 more mission-weary infantry and marines.
An analysis and critique of the failure of military-driven imperialism and its militarily dangerous consequences requires an objective critical analysis of Petraeus’ media-inflated military record prior to taking command. Equally important Petraeus close ideological and political linkages with Israel’s militarist approach toward Iran (and the rest of the Middle East countries opposing it) dates back to his close collaboration with Israel’s (unofficial) military advisers and intelligence operatives in Kurdish Northern Iraq.
Petraeus’ Phony Success in Northern Iraq
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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Turning the Tables on the Israel-Firsters
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... The idea that there are U.S. citizens who have equal loyalties to the United States and Israel is passé. American Israel-firsters have long since dropped any pretense of loyalty to the United States and its genuine national interests. They have moved brazenly into the Israel first, last, and always camp. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Norman Podhoretz, Victor Davis Hanson, the Rev. Franklin Graham, Alan Dershowitz, Rudy Giuliani, Douglas Feith, the Rev. Rod Parsley, Paul Wolfowitz, James Woolsey, Bill Kristol, the Rev. John Hagee, and the thousands of wealthy supporters of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) appear to care about the United States only so far as Washington is willing to provide immense, unending funding and the lives of young U.S. service personnel to protect Israel. These individuals and their all-for-Israel journals – Commentary, National Review, the Weekly Standard, and the Wall Street Journal – amount to nothing less than a fifth column intent on involving 300 million Americans in other peoples' religious wars, making them pay and bleed to protect a nation in which the United States has no genuine national security interest at stake....
... American voters must start using the democratic process to begin removing themselves from the religious war known as the Arab-Israeli conflict. Disengagement will take time, hard work, and a steadfast commitment to the rule of law. Three actions are well within the voters' capability...
http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/?articleid=13139
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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So here we have the israel-firsters again trying to use the suffering of americans to justify their wars in the mideast!
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Here is a more credible set of iraq veterans.
Iraq Veterans Against the War
http://ivaw.org/faq
Why we're against the war
Q: Why are veterans, active duty, and National Guard men and women opposed to the war in Iraq?
A: Here are 10 reasons we oppose this war:
The Iraq war is based on lies and deception.
The Bush Administration planned for an attack against Iraq before September 11th, 2001. They used the false pretense of an imminent nuclear, chemical and biological weapons threat to deceive Congress into rationalizing this unnecessary conflict. They hide our casualties of war by banning the filming of our fallen's caskets when they arrive home, and when they refuse to allow the media into Walter Reed Hospital and other Veterans Administration facilities which are overflowing with maimed and traumatized veterans.
For further reading: www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/index.html
The Iraq war violates international law.
The United States assaulted and occupied Iraq without the consent of the UN Security Council. In doing so they violated the same body of laws they accused Iraq of breaching.
For further reading:
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/imtcons...
http://www.westpointgradsagainstthewar.org/-
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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Corporate profiteering is driving the war in Iraq.
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From privately contracted soldiers and linguists to no-bid reconstruction contracts and multinational oil negotiations, those who benefit the most in this conflict are those who suffer the least. The United States has chosen a path that directly contradicts President Eisenhower's farewell warning regarding the military industrial complex. As long as those in power are not held accountable, they will continue...
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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Overwhelming civilian casualties are a daily occurrence in Iraq.
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Despite attempts in training and technological sophistication, large-scale civilian death is both a direct and indirect result of United States aggression in Iraq. Even the most conservative estimates of Iraqi civilian deaths number over 100,000. Currently over 100 civilians die every day in Baghdad alone.For further reading:
http://www.nomorevictims.org/
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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Soldiers have the right to refuse illegal war.
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All in service to this country swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. However, they are prosecuted if they object to serve in a war they see as illegal under our Constitution. As such, our brothers and sisters are paying the price for political incompetence, forced to fight in a war instead of having been sufficiently trained to carry out the task of nation-building.
For further reading:
http://thankyoult.live.radicaldesigns.org/content/...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qa6ZHYcG_EM-
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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If you really believe in "supporting our troops" and american democracy, then have a closer look at the many other things these Iraq veterans say.
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Q: Why do Iraq Veterans Against the War call for the immediate withdrawal from Iraq?
A: There are several reasons why immediate withdrawal is the critical first step toward solving the problems in Iraq.
http://ivaw.org/faq
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mompro1 year, 4 months ago
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I am not at a loss for words. I am tired of being told that it's unpatriotic to disagree with a war. There are as many without limbs on the other side of the debate over the mistake. He didn't mention his lost limb because it was in the video as he walked away. Why didn't he just cut it before that. Please, I honor this man's service, but I do not honor his words as true from all his fellow service men and women.
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Unfotunately, there is terror being carried out each and every day around this world against people who are unable to defend themselves, whom the US has not made the decision to save in any way.
We entered into this war under a false pretense. Not by our service personnel, but by our LEADERS. Lies were told to soldiers like this man and they are in harms way waiting for someone to figure out what's next. I have no doubt that the terrorists will lay in wait while we leave Iraq and then return to the same behavior. They have waited patiently for years to die for their cause, and I have no doubt they will again.
But make no mistake, we should not have been there and money is not a good enough reason, even if they tell you it wasn't. But, no one can convince me otherwise.
I am the President of my local VFW Ladies Auxiliary, and a patriot who serves those abroad and at home during and after their service. I am sick and tired of having this attitude shoved in my face as 600,000 women in the Ladies Auxiliary wit at the bedsides of wounded soldiers and their families. Give it a rest already.
There is no shame in admitting we were duped. There is shame, however, in letting it keep our soldiers in harms way. They have served the people here and in Iraq and now it is time for them to leave.-
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italymeetsdixie1 year, 3 months ago
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There are several factors that I am able to see that go into whether we choose to "help" another country.
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1) How much will it cost to "help" this country? (versus how much can we profit, which leaves out Sudan and N Korea)
2) .........
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kobzikov1 year, 3 months ago
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Are you talking about Operation Normandy? Where US and Britain together fought against 380 thousand German soldiers? Is that it?
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You want to compare that with Nazi Operation Barbarossa that consisted of 5.6 million soldiers, which Soviet Union has completely stopped in its tracks and reversed their advance by the time US and Britain so much as started considering opening a Second Front in Europe???
Go for it. I'd love to hear the argument of how defeating a force of 380 thousand was more instrumental to defeat of Nazi Germany then defeating a force of 5.6 million.
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Sabretooth1 year, 3 months ago
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Try learning history instead of trying to rewrite it Spinner, you only joined the war effort when it looked like Germany might control all of Europe. One other point, that was back when America had honour and integrity, values long lost in todays America.
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pc251 year, 4 months ago
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We entered into this war under a false pretense. Not by our service personnel, but by our LEADERS.
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listen to what you beloved Democratic liberal leadership had to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1q9Q0OtJ4g
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pc251 year, 4 months ago
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/26/vets-for-fre...
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silvera1 year, 3 months ago
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PC25...Since your profile implies you are probably a fairly young man, let me pose a question to you: as one of Propeller's most ardent supporters of this so-called war, why don't you march down to your local recruiter's office and enlist? Or, as with Cheney, "it's just not convenient". Wouldn't want to interfere with that blossoming musical career, would we? Don't be concerned with qualifying, I understand they are now taking drop outs, gang bangers, white supremacists, ex felons, the mentally ill; just about anyone who can sign their name. You must fit in there somewhere and besides you'd be doing the rest of us a big favor.
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hamy1 year, 3 months ago
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Um...insulting is still killing them. That is the truth. The army has had to lower it's standards. There are several credible stories about that.
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So answer the question pc.
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silvera1 year, 3 months ago
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Tell me exactly how I insulted the men and women who serve this country. Everything I said about the lowering of standards has been reported in the news. Everything! If anybody should be insulted or ashamed it should be our government who is putting these individuals in harms way for NO GOOD REASON! Sorry, I needed to yell that.
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Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater, and all the other war profiteers who are complicit in prolonging this stupid, unnecessary "war" are the ones who are really insulting our soldiers. If you really want to support our troops, BRING THEM HOME! Darn, there I go again. -
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Sabretooth1 year, 3 months ago
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Come on Spinner, where is your patriotism, you support a war as long as someone else fights it? Spinner, are you a coward? Americans gave up nothing to fight this war, where are the sacrifices, why is profiteering allowed in a time of war, that is treason.
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Spinward1 year, 3 months ago
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As I am a U.S. Marine, I have the right to say what I choose.
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You're the coward. You won't fight. All you do is stand in the way of getting the job done right.
By the way... we're winning. No thanks to you and your ilk.
THANK YOU JOHN MCCAIN!!!
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italymeetsdixie1 year, 3 months ago
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Are we? I am unsure how you have come to the conclusion we are winning. Winning what? Spin, I respect your service to this country. I takes a both a brave and intellegent individual to be a marine. But......we are not winning anything in Iraq. We are losing, lives, money, and respect.
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pc251 year, 3 months ago
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first of all I am not a fairly young man and second of all I was drafted the last year the draft was in effect reported for my physical at Fort Hamilton and then the lottery came out. By the end of 74 no one was being taken.
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As far as my music/production career is concerned I have worked with a lot of the people that are out today and have done so for awhile.....What is your problem
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italymeetsdixie1 year, 3 months ago
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I am supportive of those men and women serving. My first husband was a military man, I still send cards to the soldiers who serve, I still stay up at night making cookies, I send money to Veterans Groups, I buy from every fund raiser they have outside WalMart. I support the men and women who serves this country. But I do not believe that we should be in Iraq. The Iraq war has little to do with protecting this country and everything to do with money and oil.
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 3 months ago
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It is truly sad when a person cannot accept the reality of a situation because they are too emotionally invested.
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I am sorry that young man had to lose a leg (as is implied) because BushCo felt that it was OK to take on a country with a marginal army with no concern for our troops' safety in the subsequent inevitable babysitting mission (mentioned by Cheney in 94). We are there and will be there to insure "peace" - read push our oil interests, until every drop of oil has been squeezed out of Iraq or we can no longer afford to be there.
And I am thoroughly disgusted by the moral bankruptcy of Cons for using this emotional tripe to avoid ACCOUNTABILITY and to try and justify their failed policy. Hey, guys, some people might feel bad if we admit Iraq was a mistake, so we should pretend it was the right thing to do, right? WRONG!!!
Tell me, Cons, if you're so d amned concerned about "freedom", why are you not pushing for invasion of North Korea? It has a regime as least as bad as Saddam and they actually had (have?) WMDs!!! Why don't we invade them? Why do we agree to BRIBE them?
Which also leads to an interesting question of what happens when we stop bribing, excuse me, sending Iraq "AID" (with THEIR massive surplus)? Will they be such a great ally?
If you're so concerned about freedom, Cons, are you prepared to SACRIFICE butter to build up our guns to take on the "evil empire", again. I've checked our balance on the card, Cons, and you're going to have to agree to do a little more than put yellow ribbon magnets on your car if you want to maintain our military industrial complex in the face of all these threats, well, in the face of Iraq, ALONE.
This stunt is an epic fail on your part, Cons. But at least you never fail to please. Bravo.
It never rains, it only pours in the Con Culture of Lies and Incompetence.-
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rivermint1 year, 3 months ago
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The words liberal and conservative..i.e. Dems and Cons are becoming dangerous to our ability to communicate with each other. This labeling of all people in one category without bothering to discuss the differences is harmful.
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When we run around saying things like " The Libs hate America," or "The Cons are all fascists," we destroy our ability to talk to each other.
The war and the ethics of the war are messy and complicated. Both sides have some useful things to say about it.
It is also dangerous to belittle calm inteligent introspection and thought. That is what wisdom is all about. You cannot make good decisions when you act without questioning your own position carefully.
If people really love this country they will try to find common ground and help each other get what they need. Denying the feelings and values of half of the people on the other side of the imaginary fence is insensitive at best.-
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wtagg1 year, 3 months ago
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"It is also dangerous to belittle calm inteligent introspection and thought. That is what wisdom is all about. You cannot make good decisions when you act without questioning your own position carefully."
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This would have been good advice in Washington immediately after 9/11. The original desire was to go after Iraq even though the admin knew that al qaeda was responsible. I believe Rumsfeld's (or Cheney's, I can't remember which) comment was that there were more opportune targets in Iraq. I believe Powell was the person who suggested that we would lose the good will we had received from 9/11 if we pursued an effort outside of Afghanistan. That view prevailed and it became an Afghanistan first, which meant that some other country would be second. It was very much understood what that second country would be.
It would be nice to define what liberal and conservative mean. Democrat and Republican do not necessarily related respectively to those terms. There is hardly anything conservative, by definition, in the current Republican platform and actions. Similar contradictions relate to liberals and democrats. Many are branded as liberal only because their opinions are different from republican opinions. The irony is that the two respective candidates are almost clones when considering their actions and statements.-
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rivermint1 year, 3 months ago
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Carefully defining our terms would be very helpful, I agree. Having two parties in constant conflict has left us with the idea that there are only two ways to veiw any situation or public issue.
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I would love for our leaders to sit down and really discuss their differences and points of agreement, and move on those points of agreement.
I also feel sad to see our presidential nominees arguing and slandering each other as opposed to working together.
Whichever side wins, they will only represent about half of us, both parties should be prepared to understand and try to meet the needs of the other half as well.
I think that 911 was a serious blow to the feeling of security that we have had here for a long time. It was a new and unsetteling experience to be attacked in our own country.
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wtagg1 year, 3 months ago
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"Some people feel that this extended war was helpful in preventing future attacks. I do not know if it will help in the long run or not."
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I wonder why some do. Capturing OBL is apparently very unimportant. Wouldn't that be an important part in preventing attacks? It was something that was promised and is currently unfulfilled with no apparent effort being made to fulfill it.
Why? It was so important in 2001. Had Bush remained focused on that job, I think we would still be looking at gas in the $2 region, and an economy that wouldn't be struggling under the enormous debt we are currently carrying, a Republican Congress, and a republican shoo in for president.-
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rivermint1 year, 3 months ago
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Hey Donald,
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I do see your point. I actually live in Texas so I know how radical things have gotten latley. I feel really frusterated with the extreme ideology of many of the people in my own state.
I do think that the extreme ideologies depend on us not seeing each other as human beings or fellows.
I also think that most people (lika any bell curve) are somewhere in the middle.
If those of us from both sides who can pull together, do pull together, we might be able to rest our country back from the swinging extremes.-
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 3 months ago
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Here's some more red meat for you, Cons.
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Warning: Explicit Lyrics
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pcknowledge1 year, 3 months ago
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The Iraq war was long planned by the Bush Administration, and has been about PNAC, and Iraq's oil, not the freedom of our country. Multiple Weapons Inspectors confirmed Saddam did not even have the capability to make WMD'S, Blix was the most outspoken one. Bush ignored everything the Weapons Inspectors said.
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For people who have never been to the Middle East, thousands of Iraqis, including civilians, and hundreds of our troops have died in iraq due to this war, and are continuing to die there on a daily basis, though Saddam himself is long gone. Also, for people who are not familiar with Middle East politics and the region, Saddam was actually a stabilizing force in the ME, he and BL were enemies, and Al Qaeda was not allowed any presence in Iraq as long as Saddam was alive.
In addition, Saddam was a brutal Dictator, but under Saddam, Iraqis who were unhappy with his methods were free to leave Iraq if they wanted to, and many Iraqis did leave Iraq when Saddam was in power.
Currently, our military is fighting a faceless, namless enemy as it is impossible to distinguish between Sunnis, Shiites and other factions in Iraq. None of the Iraqis were responsible for any attacks on our soil, and they were certainly not responsible for 9/11.
Iraq's infrastructure is completly destroyed, and will take years to re build.
I was working in the Middle East when Bush announced the war. I was working in a region that was safe, yet our government placed travel warnings for all Americans in the region I was in on their US State Department website.
For those of you who can sleep well at night, knowing Bush and Cheney send our troops to Iraq because of his greed for oil, just know that our troops are continuing to die there on a daily basis, so Bush/Cheney and his oil cronies can continue to make profits from Iraq's oil. Cheney's latest adventure is the opening of a Halliburton office in Dubai. -
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Bruedaddy1 year, 3 months ago
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screw you ****ant neocon.
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you people make me sick. why don't YOU go to Iraq if you're so G D honorable and patriotic?
yeah, I thought so prick, YOU'LL be saying home...
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icono11 year, 3 months ago
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I take it that when OBama becomes President and has 'his surge' in Afghanistan with intentions of invading the tribal regions Pakistan to capture or kill OBL, which if done, could start a much more dangerous and far reaching war, then that war will be 'justified' and therefore supportable by the multitudes of Bush Haters because the 'OBama war' will be a 'just war' and therefore morally supportable.
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So it comes down to 'who commits the troops to war' not 'why they are committed to combat'.
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pcknowledge1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama has the right idea. Our troops were already in Afghanistan, before Bush diverted our forces to Iraq. Invading the tribal regions in Pakistan is not that difficult, and would not start a more dangerous war. The region is constantly in turmoil, and the Taliban is easier to defeat then the Sunnis, Shiites etc in Iraq are, because they are easily recognized.
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I believe BL is dead by now, but it would hurt to clean up a bit there just in case. Baitullah Mahsood currently leads the Taliban in the Afghanistan/Pak mountain areas. It would be more important to get rid of him, then it was to get rid of Saddam.-
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Spinward1 year, 3 months ago
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Obamessiah has the right idea?
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Maybe you should ask the Pakistanis about invading their tribal regions first. I can assure you, the'll crap kittens before they would let Hussein Obama do anything there.
The Obamessiah's proposal of bombing Pakistan and having tea with Iran... yet one more example of PROFOUND inexperience on his part.
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hamy1 year, 3 months ago
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Yes. It is truly honorable of Bush Senior to pay money to keep his son out of war's way.
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What an honor it has been to hear the screams of men and women and children dying while he jokes about the cause of their deaths at a $2,000 dollar a plate dinner.
What an honor it has been to have a president who cares so little about his own people that he would lie in order to see them dead.
What an honor it's been to have a Vice President who actually said the word "so?" when he was asked about the men and women who died for his cause.
You know nothing about honor yourself.
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pcknowledge1 year, 3 months ago
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I always urge people, who believe in the Iraq war to enlist and sign up to serve in Iraq. It's nearly impossible to form an educated opinion, while sitting safely away at home. When one actually travels to the Middle East, and looks around, that's when one learns there is no way to distinguish between Shiites and Sunnis, we won't win this war because Iraq, being a country in the Middle East, will never be a Democracy of any kind. One learns that this war is definetly about oil, greed and the abuse of power and nothing else. One learns, that while Bush calls all moslems "radical fanatics," Bush and Cheney are having oild fields seized in Iraq for their own benefit, striking deals with the Saudi Monarchy, Bin Laden's family, and the Sheikhs in Dubai to profit from the oil that flows in those ME regions. One sees photographs in the newspapers of Bush/Cheney striking business deals and shaking hands with the very people they publicly call our enemies.
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One learns that your President, is lying and has sold you and me out to make profits for himself, and his oil cronies.
When one travels the Middle East, one understands that our troops are shedding their blood, every drop of it, so Bush/Cheney and his oil profiteers make megabucks.
I, like everyone else, took an oath to protect my country from our enemies. I, like everyone else, would always honor my oath. The Iraqis are not our enemies. And I hope this unjustified invasion of Iraq will not turn the Iraqis into our bitter enemies in the future.-
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kobzikov1 year, 3 months ago
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It's so ridiculously easy to skewer the piece of propaganda with its own words it's not even funny.
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For example, if Iraqi people are just like us then does anyone recall how it is that Americans reacted to being under a British occupation? It seems that Iraqis prefer to die on their feet then live on their knees, not unlike everyone in US who picked up a weapon to fight for independence from Britain.
If Iraqi people are just like us, then ask yourself would you be better off with only a few hours of electricity, failing sanitation system, destroyed and underequipt hospitals, under a foreign occupation, afraid to leave your house because of daily violence by criminals, suicide bombers, militias, US forces, military contractors, etc. Or if you lived in Egypt or Saudi Arabia, both US allies, where you'd have about as many rights as if you had lived under Saddam, unless of course you are a woman, which means that you'd have less rights at least in Saudi Arabia.
But then again, just like all propaganda this video relies on viewer's ignorance, same kind of ignorance that allows John McCain to still support Vietnam War without reading Pentagon Papers and the person in the video to support Iraq War without reading Downing Street Memos. And those who consider the video a source of any kind of truth got the kind of ignorance in spades. -
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GLee1 year, 3 months ago
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I can safely say that the socialism being promoted by the liberals is dangerous to our Great Nation. McCain walks a tight line between the Democrats and Repulicans but he is no socialist. That is one of the reasons that he has my vote........ only one of the many reasons. Obama is dangerous. Sorry, but it is so true.
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rivermint1 year, 3 months ago
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Socialism is not bad.. it is an economic philosophy. Europe and Scandinavia in particular are democratic socialist countries that run very well. I have lived in Denmark and they have really great services for their people.
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Socialism and communism are not the same thing, and even communism had some good ideas on paper ( thought they failed to work in reality
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Socialism might not work in a society as large and diverse as America but it is not evil.
All economic philosophies have strenghts and weaknesses. Capitalism has benefits and costs. Socialism has benefits and costs.
I am not increadibly versed in econimic theory but I know that in any system or science things are not good or bad, there is cost and benefit. -
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