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Spinward1 year, 3 months ago
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What's your source for the 1.2 million dead Iraqis?
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Didn't one of you nuts post on here recently that we killed about 2 million innocent Iraqi children as we went on our nursery school bombing campaigns or something?
Political gain? This soldier made a video supporting McCain and taking Obama to the wood shed for his profound stupidity. That's all it is. A soldier exercising his right to free speech.
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donald511 year, 3 months ago
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its a flagrant political abuse of a hurt soldier who wants to believe he lost his leg for something, nothing less!
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You repugs want more good young men to come forward to become your cannon fodder! Heaven forbid you actually have some diplomacy in the future before you actually commit these fine young people!
Dumya and McBush's foreign policy consists of condemning from afar ("axis of evil" or "Bomb, bomb Iran"), then send in the troops and bomb, bomb away with no care whatsoever for collateral damage!
I, nor my son with a purple heart and medals for valor in Iraq, will never throw our medals away!-
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Spinward1 year, 3 months ago
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Collateral damage is terrible. I'm schocked to hear that you, a retired officer, would imagine a war without any collateral damage.
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Why don't you go to the middle east and ask the nice terrorists to quit hiding behind women and children?
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donald511 year, 3 months ago
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...one of the goals is to prevent collateral damage, if you want to win the "hearts and minds"... why we lost Vietnam and why until Petraeus we were losing Iraq, and may still lose Iraq. All fact beyond your comprehension spin!
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The truth is that Bush doesn't give a damn about collateral damage ( he can't even guess how many Iraqis have died since he invaded), and most pilots with guns and bombs don't either - like McBush in Vietnam!-
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Spinward1 year, 3 months ago
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This might come as a shock, and again I'm amazed that you served in the military as an officer and don't know this, sir, but PILOTS DON'T CHOOSE THEIR TARGETS!
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As a terminal air controller, I am the one that gives the targets to the aircraft. I am the one who decides what will be vaporized. The pilot follows the coordinates I give him and drops the ordinance I tell him to drop.
Here's another thing you should know, sir. We don't bomb schools, hospitals, or mosques... we bomb enemy combatants. We weigh the coward's hiding place with the target value and make a decision.
You already know that, don't you, sir?
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 3 months ago
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What's your source for the 1.2 million dead Iraqis?
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http://www.infoshout.com/#-
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Candida1 year, 3 months ago
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Spinward,
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Lancet, the respected British medical publication estimated the number of dead around 600,000 a couple of years ago if I remember correctly. Since nobody seems to count the Iraqi dead, it's hard to tell how many there are. Anyway, does it really matter whether the number is 100,000 or 1.2 million? Those were people who didn't have to die. They died for no good reason at all, just like the 4,000+ American soldiers, some coalition soldiers, and the ???? American contractors did.
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 3 months ago
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"What's your source for the 1.2 million dead Iraqis?"
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Cons care about sources now? Too bad they didn't ask for sources for those imaginary WMDs. I wonder if Cons had known the centerpiece of the WMD case was a LIAR if they would have been so gung-ho about sending our kids to the meat grinder. -
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epiphannyy1 year, 3 months ago
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Lists the current Iraqi death count as 1,255,026
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http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.h...-
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Spinward1 year, 3 months ago
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I checked it out... and you're WAY off.
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The website you named is getting their data from a survey published in The Lancet, a revered medical journal in the UK.
I went to The Lancet and they have revised the initial report and said, "First, according to Burnham and colleagues' results, there were nearly 600 war deaths per day—an unusually high number compared with almost any other armed conflict or indeed with other Iraqi mortality estimates. Burnham and colleagues' figure 4, in which cumulated Iraq Body Count deaths parallel their study's mortality rates, is misleading. Rates cannot be compared with numbers, much less with cumulative numbers. The correct comparison would be the one presented here (figure), in which the Iraq Body Count numbers are transformed into rates by period. In that case, there is no similarity between the trends in the study and Iraq Body Count."
In other words, Iraq's population is 27 million. We could not have killed 5% of the population and to say we did is PURE PROPAGANDA!
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epiphannyy1 year, 3 months ago
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The "official" body count is much less. It is estimated to number between 86,864-94,782.
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http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
The truth probably falls somewhere in between. Ultimately though, it doesn't matter what the exact number if. To those affected, any civilian death is too many. After all, what freedom is there in death?-
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kobzikov1 year, 3 months ago
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I think the number of casualties as a result of the conflict are much higher then even 1,255,026. Why? Because the estimate only relates to those who are victims of violence.
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It doesn't factor in those who die because of poor sanitation, disease, lack of decent health care system, effects of DU, etc. Before we have information on any of the factors we can't even begin to fathom how deadly the war has been for the Iraqi people.
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italymeetsdixie1 year, 3 months ago
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http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.h...
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Hope this enlightening for you.
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