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    slate1 year, 3 months ago

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    'That the "surge" worked is just a propaganda myth designed to keep Americans from understanding who really won the war in Iraq.'

    So you're saying that Obama was stupid enough to fall for it, since he said it worked?

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      DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 3 months ago

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      did he say it worked or won't he admit it worked? which is it?

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        slate1 year, 3 months ago

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        He said it did work but won't admit to being wwwwwwwrong on the subject

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        hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago

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        Actually the real problem is the extreme levels of "state propaganda" to which Americans are subjected. The "surge" has only worked as a means of getting us out (Obama's stance) without Bush and his zioncons having to admit too loudly that they lost.

        The American Conservative

        Surging to Defeat
        Petraeus’s strategy only postponed the inevitable.

        ... Although violence in Iraq has decreased over the past year, attacks on coalition and Iraqi security forces continue to occur at an average rate of 500 per week.. ...

        ... The costs to the United States of sustaining this dependency are difficult to calculate with precision, but figures such as $3 billion per week and 30 to 40 American lives per month provide a good approximation.

        What can we expect to gain in return for this investment? The Bush administration was counting on the Iraq War to demonstrate the viability of its Freedom Agenda and to affirm the efficacy of the Bush Doctrine of preventive war.

        Measured in those terms, the war has long since failed. Rather than showcasing our ability to transform the Greater Middle East, Operation Iraqi Freedom has demonstrated just the opposite. Using military power as an instrument for imprinting liberal values in this part of the world has produced a failed state while fostering widespread antipathy toward the United States....

        http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/apr/21/00026/

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