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Posted By Aidenag 10 months ago in NewsOn July 20, 2008, the pastor of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's home church, Larry Kroon, delivered a sermon called "Sin Is Personal To God." Kroon, the senior pastor of the non-denominational Wasilla Bible Church in Wasilla, Alaska, used the book of Zephanaiah as his reference point for discussing "that great day of the Lord when God will finally bring closure to human history... a day of wrath." According to Kroon, "all things and all people" are going to bear the brunt of God's "intense anger." "There's anger with God," he proclaimed. "He takes sin personal."
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Eagle_Eye10 months ago
God is angry all right , but the humans are too deluded with themselves to understand that the anger is over the sin of how they have trashed the beautiful world that was created for them along with the total disregard for God's beautiful Creatures of Creation of which I am one.
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Aidenag, your posting some really good stories, keep it rolling!-
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Aidenag10 months ago
Thanks EE, i've been on what I am calling "Palin Watch" the last week. She seems to have a new story about her pop up every 1-3hr it seems covering a totally new topic.
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hyperbola9 months, 4 weeks ago
Frankly one has to ask why the corporate media has strenuously avoided telling us that Palin is for theocracy, even if it has to be imposed on Americans by force.
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Sarah Palin used AK tax dollars to fund dominionist churches
Over the past few days, I've done reporting on Sarah Palin's extensive dominionist connections--including the attempt to run her as a "stealth" dominionist candidate and her connections to some scary dominionist groups including not just "Joel's Army" folks but a far-right Christian Reconstructionist political party linked to domestic terrorism.
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Natureboy9 months, 4 weeks ago
Typically, it is man who makes God in his image.
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Palin's pastor has apparently manufactured a god who is powerful, but angry, vindictive, mean and chickensh!it, perpetually on the hunt for someone to punish, judge, get revenge on, etc.
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Klarissa9 months, 4 weeks ago
Just because Obama quit his church doesn't mean that he changed his beliefs. Does he still believe in:
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A non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A committment to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A committment to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
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marcoarodriguez9 months, 4 weeks ago
If a pastor or anyone else are going to pretend to represent God, then maybe they should read all of the Bible. THE NEW TESTAMENT says that God poured out "all of His wrath" on Jesus for "our sake." If God is still mad at us, then He is a liar. By the way, the Bible also says that God cannot lie. Yes, you read this right. There are a few things God cannot do. The Bible says that He cannot sin. It also says he cannot lie (which is also sin). So maybe this pastor should read "all of the Bible" before he stands in front of people and tries to speak for God. The problems in this world are a result of our own doing. God gave us the planet to care for it. He gave us the power of dominion. We have free will to make our own choices, but we must accept the consequences of our own behavior. Read the book of Genesis. To blame God for our own troubles is to slander God. I am sure this pastor was sincere, but he was also sincerely wrong. It is preaching like this that gives God a bad name.
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Anyhow, as far as my opinion on Sarah Palin: whether one agrees with her political views or not is our own God-given choice. It's also our right as Americans so I wont belittle anyone who thinks differently than I. So, keep in mind that the following is just my opinion. I do take exception at the narrow mindedness of some people who say that Palin is somehow a bad parent if she is not home taking care of the kids (paraphrase). Last time I checked, she had a loving husband who has no apparent issues on taking care of them. The only thing he can't do is breast feed. :) I am a father of 5 children. My wife and I are both professional people. My wife runs a rehabilitation hospital and is required to travel extensively. I am able to take care of our children just as well as she can. There are a few single parents out there, you know; and some of them happen to be fathers. Its interesting to me that in these "modern times" some would have you think that it is ok for men to be in political powerl, but not women. If you are a woman and you "choose" to not pursue other ambitions outside the home... GREAT. That is your choice. But don't be so narrow-minded and criticize someone else who thinks differently. By the way, I do a great job taking care of our kids. My oldest just started college, he is an honor student, and got an accademic as well as athletic scholarship to a private university. my 12 year old and 10 year old are also honor students, blackbelts, play basketball for their schools, swim on the swimming team, and volunteer at our church. Our 5 year old twins are also doing well and are in gymnastics.
By the way, no, we are not rich, and don't have nannys. My wife and I take care of them, ourselves. I am not saying all of this to brag, just simply to say that it can be done. If my wife and I can do it, I am sure someone like Sarah Palin can do it too. -
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marcoarodriguez9 months, 4 weeks ago
If a pastor or anyone else are going to pretend to represent God, then maybe they should read all of the Bible. THE NEW TESTAMENT says that God poured out "all of His wrath" on Jesus for "our sake." If God is still mad at us, then He is a liar. By the way, the Bible also says that God cannot lie. Yes, you read this right. There are a few things God cannot do. The Bible says that He cannot sin. It also says he cannot lie (which is also sin). So maybe this pastor should read "all of the Bible" before he stands in front of people and tries to speak for God. The problems in this world are a result of our own doing. God gave us the planet to care for it. He gave us the power of dominion. We have free will to make our own choices, but we must accept the consequences of our own behavior. Read the book of Genesis. To blame God for our own troubles is to slander God. I am sure this pastor was sincere, but he was also sincerely wrong. It is preaching like this that gives God a bad name.
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Anyhow, as far as my opinion on Sarah Palin: whether one agrees with her political views or not is our own God-given choice. It's also our right as Americans so I wont belittle anyone who thinks differently than I. So, keep in mind that the following is just my opinion. I do take exception at the narrow mindedness of some people who say that Palin is somehow a bad parent if she is not home taking care of the kids (paraphrase). Last time I checked, she had a loving husband who has no apparent issues on taking care of them. The only thing he can't do is breast feed. :) I am a father of 5 children. My wife and I are both professional people. My wife runs a rehabilitation hospital and is required to travel extensively. I am able to take care of our children just as well as she can. There are a few single parents out there, you know; and some of them happen to be fathers. Its interesting to me that in these "modern times" some would have you think that it is ok for men to be in political power, but not women. If you are a woman and you "choose" to not pursue other ambitions outside the home... GREAT. That is your choice. But don't be so narrow-minded and criticize someone else who thinks differently. By the way, I do a great job taking care of our kids. My oldest just started college, he is an honor student, and got an academic as well as athletic scholarship to a private university. my 12 year old and 10 year old are also honor students, blackbelts, play basketball for their schools, swim on the swimming team, and volunteer at our church. Our 5 year old twins are also doing well and are in gymnastics.
By the way, no, we are not rich, and don't have nannys. My wife and I take care of them, ourselves. I am not saying all of this to brag, just simply to say that it can be done. If my wife and I can do it, I am sure someone like Sarah Palin can do it too. -
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hyperbola9 months, 4 weeks ago
If it comes down to a choice between "religion" that advocates liberty and equality versus "religion" that advocates theocracy associated with racism and fascist violence, the first seems much more American than the second. Why is Palin supporting these kinds of groups with taxpayer money?
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'Arming' for Armageddon - Militant Joel's Army Followers Seek Theocracy
Joel's Army believers are hard-core Christian dominionists, meaning they believe that America, along with the rest of the world, should be governed by conservative Christians and a conservative Christian interpretation of biblical law. There is no room in their doctrine for democracy or pluralism.
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NoWayMan9 months, 4 weeks ago
exactly.
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you libs just don't get it.
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Endoscopy9 months ago
Typical of a far left looney tunes kind of guy.
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You people don't have a clue about what he was talking about. What the pastor was talking about was eschatology. The end times. Tribulation etc.
You people are laughable.
Rev. Wright claims that the CIA created AIDS as a method of killing blacks but he is not racist or anti American. He points to the result of people jailed for the unusually high amount of black on black crime. Then he points to the relative number of blacks in prison and says his "G D America". but this is not racist or anti American.
But a preacher talks about end times and you ridiculous atheists go berserk about something you don't understand.
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Dionys10 months ago
Does this mean now that he's a black racist, too?
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evadadiva10 months ago
It's really scary to know how absolutely crazy people in this world are. What are you all talking about? Sara Palin? Sara Palin?. This is not about the color of the persons skin, its not wheather your Rep. or a Dem. All that matters is whats happening in this economy- are some of you actually so full of hate that you would even CONSIDER living another day like this. I am a professional mother of 2 children 1 in college 1 in high school. "I know all about bringing home the bacon and fryin it up in a pan", but I know there is no sane way that a women with 5 children- all of which are in situations or ages where they NEED there mother can run this country. She cant be two places at once- do you really think she is going to miss her kids hockey game to attend a serious matter that affects you and me? And if she did - is that fair to the child? I mean- come on yall' that's no life to have - with a nanny for a mom? Nothing scares me more than the thought of McCain & Palin in the white house. the decision today is going to effect our children our childrens children.........Unless you all have 5 million dollars in the bank, can buy anything you want from the market- not just what you need, pay for college tuition with no struggle. If that is you then I guess by all means-go crazy! But if you want to not see your parents and grandparents suffer because they cant afford all the medicines they need, or can pay for private school with ease...but if that' s not you, then put your hate aside, and listen with your ears to what is being said- we dont know who is going to keep their word when they get in the office, but when the words are without substance -just cliches and stories of being a prisoner of war- for 51/2 years- I mean is that something to brag about? Did McCain get any psychiatric help when he was freed- can you trust his mental and physical condition? And since everybody wants to talk about Palin and this stupid Ebay/Private Jet thing? Were's the money ? Where did the money she did get for the plane go? No one else eve thought about that? What is going on in this country! God help us all.
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chuck-the-canuck10 months ago
“God help us all.”
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Haven’t you figured it out yet? Part of the reason the US finds itself in its current situation is because of its population’s delusional need to believe that there is some kindly old gent up in the sky that cares about them. Well there isn’t one.
Stop looking to a book written over two thousand years ago by itinerant goat herders and an imaginary man in the sky, to solve the problems of today.
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obiefrommuskogee9 months, 4 weeks ago
Evadadiva... you make way too much sense not to get targeted by the Palintators.
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Besides the whole "I am woman" argument, there is no way Palin can not neglect her children and be VP at the same time. The reason we don't ask this of men is because men are not the primary caregivers... unless the whole traditional values things the GOP espouses is now a thing of a past, which I doubt given all the Cindy madonna camera pans at the GOP convention.
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enoughbledinghearts9 months, 4 weeks ago
its a good thing you are sending your kids to college, it seems you have but a middle school education. stay off blogs until you learn about real life
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Searchbeam10 months ago
We look for some intelligence, wisdom, gravitas, understanding, and the ability to unite our country for a common purpose when we choose our President.
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We made a collective mistake twice in a row and put a real, authentic fake in the White House!
It will take years to get out of the ditch this guy has landed us in.
Do we want to do the same stupid mistake again and get this 72 year old con artist there?
If we do, we might as well forget the future - if we survive at all!
There is a TEN TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT hanging on our heads, and we expect our children, grand-children and our great-grand children to pay for our blunders?
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saneman9 months, 4 weeks ago
I have talked to many Republicans who don't believe that the U.S. has a $10 trillion National Debt. They actually think it is made up just so that the government can tax them. The dollar would not have set record lows this year had there not been a $10 trillion National Debt. When Clinton balanced the budget, the dollar soared. I am not sure if the Republicans are smart enough to access and read the Forex currency charts, because I have yet to talk to a Republican with brains.
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mamafig9 months, 4 weeks ago
Yes, dollar soared, but the money came from somewhere, the FBI was in a shambles from cut funds and low and behold 3000 people died due to Clinton's mis calculations. You can save plenty, but you had bes be sure that you take the money from areas that are not necessarily needed at one time but might at another. Do you remember in the middle 90's when all the defense companies closed, thousands were out of work, did those people mean less to you then those out of work today?
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PainGoddess9 months, 4 weeks ago
Let's hope she does not use her rifle around anybody...LOL
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miklkit9 months, 4 weeks ago
I don't know about that. I was brought up as a Lutheran, and there was none of that fire and brimstone stuff. That was where the bad people went. But we were taught to look to the light and strive to make ourselves better. The lion laying with the lamb.
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That negative, angry stuff is totally alien to me.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin9 months, 4 weeks ago
the call is for equity...fairness
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like with the racist thing where the same people who cry out when Obama says typical white person have nothing to say about McCain saying 'I will always hate the gooks'-unless it's to qualify [hilariously] McCain's statement for him, saying he only meant some 'gooks'
so if you sh!t a brick over Reverend Wright's condemnation of America and say 'see how this reflects on Obama' you have to at least crap a stone over Pailn's pastor going further and saying not only is God gonna condemn America, but 'strike' it as well
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epiphannyy9 months, 4 weeks ago
Of all the people commenting here and railing against this pastor, how many of you actually took the time to listen to the sermon in question? There is a audio file on the linked article and I just listened to it. The article takes the pastor's words completely out of context and makes it sound like he's preaching how God is mad at America, etc. He doesn't say that at all. He's preaching on a passage where it says that God will wipe out all of humanity, which includes America. Taken in context, he's saying nothing outrageous if you believe in the Bible scripture he is sermonizing.
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Now, I am not a Sarah Palin fan. I don't agree with any of her policy stances that we know of and I think she makes the McCain ticket even scarier than it was before she was selected. However, attacks like this are going to backfire on us. They aren't accurate, for one. And for those who are on the fence and really investigate what is being said, she comes out looking like the righteous one in this exchange......that's the scariest thing of all.
I really wish I could convince you all to quit with the slime attacks like these because it is so important for Obama to win that we can't afford to lose people over a matter of losing credibility for putting such unsubstantiated or false hack pieces out there about her. I want to defeat her, not martyr her. And pieces like this walk a fine line between the two. For the religious voters out there, you'll do nothing but alienate them when they hear the sermon and see how its all been twisted for political gain. They'll vote Palin just because you've called them nuts too. Is that really want you all want to do here? I hope that's not the case..-
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hyperbola9 months, 4 weeks ago
The last thing America needs now are the "end-time-whackos" that Palin is associated with (and has been funding with taxpayer money).
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I will be convinced that the "religious voters" are not nuts when they show us that they believe in democracy rather than theocracy. Until now they seem awfully naive.
Where Have I Seen Sarah Palin Before?
I grew up in Iran and immigrated to US to avoid living in a theocracy. Lately though, the trajectory of US politics is like the Ayatollahs. Sarah Palin was much better dressed than the average show mom paraded on Iranian TV more than 20 years ago. The show moms were typically dressed in a black veil. But that’s about the biggest difference. The rhetoric was eerily familiar. When she was finished, I knew I had seen her before. Only that it wasn’t her. It was her ideological predecessors at a different time in a different country.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/06/where-ha...
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obiefrommuskogee9 months, 4 weeks ago
Debra,
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Because we all don't process information through emotional filters like you do. Some of us actually believe Palin is not fit to be leader of the free world, and it has nothing to do with jealousy, resentment, or a thousand other emotional reasons people who watch soap operas all day come up with because that's what they think makes the world turn. -
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Bruedaddy9 months, 4 weeks ago
Why doesn't this man just write that he hates Sarah, 1000 times and get it over with?
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hyperbola9 months, 4 weeks ago
If it comes down to a choice between "religion" that advocates liberty and equality versus "religion" that advocates theocracy associated with racism and fascist violence, the first seems much more American than the second. Why is Palin supporting these kinds of groups with taxpayer money? Sounds like you are a member of this kind of group.
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'Arming' for Armageddon - Militant Joel's Army Followers Seek Theocracy
Joel's Army believers are hard-core Christian dominionists, meaning they believe that America, along with the rest of the world, should be governed by conservative Christians and a conservative Christian interpretation of biblical law. There is no room in their doctrine for democracy or pluralism.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/06/arming-f...
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whispererk9 months, 4 weeks ago
God/Nature is going to win out over mankind,but not for any religious reasons; simply put mankind is nothing more than a ****ant in the face of Ma Nature. Really, when you think about it, mankind is not that far removed from the cave. We are far to ignorant to understand our place in the grand scheme of things. We have misjudged our position and as a result have worked against Nature instead of with it. We have not been very good caretakes of the planet; we are still too bellicose; and perhaps most important of all, we are so full of ourselves that we have inflated our importance. Our time is just about over.
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BronxBomber9 months, 4 weeks ago
Oh my! Every term of the presidential race seems to be in the same mode...pick the "lesser" of the two evils..I wish we can pick a candidate who has a good track record, and has the interest of the people's, and the Constitution in mind, instead of pursuing they're own veiled personal agenda's. To tell you the truth I'm not satisfied with either candidate. I hate to "eeny-miney-moe" it at the voting booth this November...I'll once again have to seek an alternative, and vote.
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Searchbeam9 months, 4 weeks ago
BB,
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Good to see you here!
If you read Barack Obama's bio and his accomplishments, perhaps you can see why SO MANY people are excited about his positive message and an extremely well-run campaign that always took the high road.
Now that McPain has started slinging mud on a daily basis, Obama has to respond. Even then, he is sticking to facts that can be verified.
McPain, in the meanwhile is running like a rooster around Palin! Something just seems very odd the way his body language speaks! After all, he has a long track record of fooling around with married women - his divorced ex-wife was married when he was making out with her; from what I read, his current wife was married to someone else when he was doing his "thing", and one lobbyist who also fit that description!
It is disconcerting, isn't it?
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mamafig9 months, 4 weeks ago
What is more alarming in this world is the amount of ministers doing sermons that do not help people cope with every day life, help people survive and find good in those around them, these pastors and ministers are promoting evil, hate and contempt and this does not seem to be a healthy environment for us and our children. How would americans feel if in our public schools this was not only done, but accepted? We would be furious. Enough, if your big old mouth cannot put out some kind words of optimism and encouragement, pack your crap up and move to a country were your sermons will be welcomed..... PEOPLE NEED TO START THINKING AND NOT LET RELIGION DICTATE WHAT THEY FEEL, STOP LETTING THESE CRAZY CONTROLLING MEN/WOMEN WHO STAND AT PODIUMS ALL OVER THIS GREAT COUNTRY TELL YOU ALL OF THE REASONS THAT LIFE SUCKS, FIND THE REASONS WHY LIFE IS WONDERFUL, THEY ARE THERE IF YOU LOOK...
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Natureboy9 months, 4 weeks ago
The oddest thing about all this is that if I as a crank and curmudgeon went about publicly declaring that the creator of the universe, whose eye is on the sparrow yaddah yaddah, is actually just a vindictive little prick whose game is inflicting death, mayhem, misery and despair, the faithful would surely stone me at the village gates as they did the prophets of old.
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But if I were to proclaim that view of diety from the pulpit as this pastor does, I would be golden, and there would be nimwads aplenty lapping it up as they filled my collection plate.
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sflorida9 months, 4 weeks ago
You are all crazy! The problem with this country is that we have democrats and republicans. We are no longer AMERICANS. We need someone who can represent our ideals and goals in this government. The democrats are all for taxing the rich but that is not really what happens. The rich never pay taxes. They just seek another shelter for their money. The poor don't have anything so 0 of 0 is 0. The ones who end up paying for all of this socialized programs is the middle class. So we keep working to pay for bums that cannot get off of their a-- and do something for themselves. We are also paying for a war that the republicans insisted that was necessary for our national security. When are we as Ameicans going to rise up and tell these imposters that we don't want any of them? I am neither republican nor democrat. I AM AMERICAN and proud of it. We the people are supposed to be running this country not some off the wall liberal or crazy conservative. Most Americans are middle of the road. The questions is when are you going to quit fighting with your brother/sister and unite as Americans?
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lloydm659 months, 4 weeks ago
what did Katherine Harris ever,except her job.She done what the law required,and by the time line it was to be done.Democrats remind me of someone putting a jig-saw puzzle togather using scissors.
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sflorida9 months, 4 weeks ago
You are all crazy! The problem with this country is that we have democrats and republicans. We are no longer AMERICANS. We need someone who can represent our ideals and goals in this government. The democrats are all for taxing the rich but that is not really what happens. The rich never pay taxes. They just seek another shelter for their money. The poor don't have anything so 0 of 0 is 0. The ones who end up paying for all of this socialized programs is the middle class. So we keep working to pay for bums that cannot get off of their a-- and do something for themselves. We are also paying for a war that the republicans insisted that was necessary for our national security. When are we as Ameicans going to rise up and tell these imposters that we don't want any of them? I am neither republican nor democrat. I AM AMERICAN and proud of it. We the people are supposed to be running this country not some off the wall liberal or crazy conservative. Most Americans are middle of the road. The questions is when are you going to quit fighting with your brother/sister and unite as Americans?
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jaern9 months, 4 weeks ago
(Grrr to edit) I remember sitting in a Pentecostal church 30 years ago when the pastor said the only reason why the US hadn't imploded on itself was because the US supported Israel. Could that be the real reason why the US turns a blind eye to Israel's shenanigans in the Middle East?
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nightweasel9 months, 4 weeks ago
its foolish to think that god doesnt exist. just us being here is a pretty big miracle. but i believe for more scientific reasons...i mean look at water, its a molecule that seems like it was made specificaly to bring life. i mean we are literally a bubble of life in the middle of the most uninhabitable enviroment imaginable. now whether or not god is watching over us, or whether or not there is an afterlife none of us can say. for every story of miracles and prayers working there is a hundred stories of them not. i say god exists but i'm sure he or she is not interested in the least by this election.. or in christmas for that matter. we've made a mess of that holiday.
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marcoarodriguez9 months, 4 weeks ago
If a pastor or anyone else are going to pretend to represent God, then maybe they should read all of the Bible. THE NEW TESTAMENT says that God poured out "all of His wrath" on Jesus for "our sake." If God is still mad at us, then He is a liar. By the way, the Bible also says that God cannot lie. Yes, you read this right. There are a few things God cannot do. The Bible says that He cannot sin. It also says he cannot lie (which is also sin). So maybe this pastor should read "all of the Bible" before he stands in front of people and tries to speak for God. The problems in this world are a result of our own doing. God gave us the planet to care for it. He gave us the power of dominion. We have free will to make our own choices, but we must accept the consequences of our own behavior. Read the book of Genesis. To blame God for our own troubles is to slander God. I am sure this pastor was sincere, but he was also sincerely wrong. It is preaching like this that gives God a bad name.
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Anyhow, as far as my opinion on Sarah Palin: whether one agrees with her political views or not is our own God-given choice. It's also our right as Americans so I wont belittle anyone who thinks differently than I. So, keep in mind that the following is just my opinion. I do take exception at the narrow mindedness of some people who say that Palin is somehow a bad parent if she is not home taking care of the kids (paraphrase). Last time I checked, she had a loving husband who has no apparent issues on taking care of them. The only thing he can't do is breast feed. :) I am a father of 5 children. My wife and I are both professional people. My wife runs a rehabilitation hospital and is required to travel extensively. I am able to take care of our children just as well as she can. There are a few single parents out there, you know; and some of them happen to be fathers. Its interesting to me that in these "modern times" some would have you think that it is ok for men to be in political power, but not women. If you are a woman and you "choose" to not pursue other ambitions outside the home... GREAT. That is your choice. But don't be so narrow-minded and criticize someone else who thinks differently. By the way, I do a great job taking care of our kids. My oldest just started college, he is an honor student, and got an academic as well as athletic scholarship to a private university. my 12 year old and 10 year old are also honor students, blackbelts, play basketball for their schools, swim on the swimming team, and volunteer at our church. Our 5 year old twins are also doing well and are in gymnastics.
By the way, no, we are not rich, and don't have nannys. My wife and I take care of them, ourselves. I am not saying all of this to brag, just simply to say that it can be done. If my wife and I can do it, I am sure someone like Sarah Palin can do it too.-
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin9 months, 4 weeks ago
''It also says he cannot lie ''
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that's the problem of God as omnipotent.
the all-powerful, beneficent Allah, cannot do a lot of things. God cannot cease to be, he cannot lie and he cannot beat me at thumb-wrestling, as it requires thumbs
I prefer to believe in a non-omnipotent God, because then its not that he COULD save babies that die in car crashes and wars, and yes, abortion tables, but chooses not to help.
I wouldn't have any respect for a man who lets a baby get run over in the street when he could have easily run out and picked the child up, so why should I have any more respect for and hold God to a LESSER standard than man?
so I prefer to believe in a non-all-powerful God who's nature is not understood by those that call him omnipotent
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benighse9 months, 4 weeks ago
THE REPUBLICAN MANTRA ON TEENAGE PREGNANCY: Example 1: About Teenager Jamie Lynn Spears: Premarital sex and teen sex and teen pregnancy are all sins! Example 2: Sarah Palin and her teenage daughter: Premarital sex (mother and daughter) and teen sex and teen pregnancy (daughter): Their Republican pre-marital pregnancies are a GIFT FROM GOD as LIFE HAPPENS! ==== YUP, YOU GUESSED IT: SIN AIN'T SIN WHEN GOOD FOLKS DO IT!!!!
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