Obama Admits He Is A Secret Muslim, Or Not, You Judge »
Posted By JaimieM 9 months, 4 weeks ago in NewsThis is not proof of anything other than a gaffe, but it is interesting that he would make such a gaffe. Freudian slip? Or a tired candidate making a verbal slipup?
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JaimieM9 months, 4 weeks ago
I think it's just another example that Obama sucks without a teleprompter. Please let him only read off speeches.
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Candida9 months, 4 weeks ago
This is neither an admission of anything nor a slip due to the lack of a teleprompter. Some Republicans have been claiming that he is a Muslim ever since he became a candidate. He simply states on the video that McCain has not made such accusations personally. It is George Stephanopoulos's interruption that makes it look like a slip.
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NoWayMan9 months, 4 weeks ago
ridiculous. the only thing it proves is that the blog where this came from (say anything) is appropriately named.
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yet another non-story from the right.
the people who believe obama is a secret muslim are the same type of people who believe Iraq was responsible for 9/11. the truth doesn't matter at all to these people. they're just looking for something, anything, that re-enforces their hatreds and fears. and they don't care if its a rumor, an innuendo or a complete fabrication. -
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HMMace9 months, 4 weeks ago
According to the Koran--once a muslim--always a muslim--or your dead...
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Obama uses a black african church,,which is allied with Africa, not America...
He did not wear a U S flag lapel pin because--" I do not want to offend any one"..
I woinder who it was he did not want to offend????
He removed the American flag from the tail of his jet plane..????
He traveled the world with Wright, Farahahn,to Lybia ....
But--fear not --he can not get elected...i believe Clolin Powell could have...or-Harold Ford could have....Bill Cosby would be a shoo in..
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capecoralM9 months, 4 weeks ago
This subject is getting kind of old. It is quite clear to the most casual observer that Obama was raised in a Muslim Family. He "converted" (Those are his words) when he joined the christian church and was guided by his "spiritual leader" ever since.
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Chicago-based journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin, when asked about Obama's baptism, wrote, "I have never been able to obtain any evidence that he was baptized, although I asked for those records."
It seems that Obama's conversion occurred when he answered one of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright's altar calls by walking down the aisle of Trinity Church to make a formal commitment of his faith.
Cathleen Falsani, religion columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, writes, "He (Obama) described his conversion experience in his mid-20s, how he walked the aisle at Trinity United Church of Christ one Sunday in a public affirmation of his private change of heart."
"I came to Christianity through the black church tradition where the line between evangelical and non-evangelical is completely blurred. Nobody knows exactly what it means."
"Does it mean that you feel you've got a personal relationship with Christ the savior? Then that's directly part of the black church experience. Does it mean you're born-again in a classic sense, with all the accoutrements that go along with that, as it's understood by some other tradition? I'm not sure."
"There are aspects of Christian tradition that I'm comfortable with and aspects that I'm not. There are passages of the Bible that make perfect sense to me and others that I go, 'Ya know, I'm not sure about that.'"
"It wasn't an epiphany," he says of that public profession of faith. "It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me." -
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CRYMTYPHON9 months, 4 weeks ago
JaimieM
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you fool no one on propeller with your little introduction of faked objectivity.
You are attempting to spread a lie, like someone with a cold deliberately sneesing on others.
In other words, this post is snot .
And by the way; as per your suggestion: we do judge .
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djn3nunez39 months, 4 weeks ago
I think it's just another example that Obama sucks without a teleprompter
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Nah it's another example of how the right wing sucks in this country. It's neither a gafe nor an admission. It's a sound bite clip use to try and convince people (who aren't otherwise too bright) of something that isn't true. -
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gulfview7779 months, 4 weeks ago
that is what is so scary. he doesn't seem like a bad guy but is OBAMA A MUSLIM??? just watch one 9/11 show and you will not vote for anyone who could possibly be a muslim
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sinophil499 months, 4 weeks ago
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Just read what the Christians did in the 7 crusades.
Read about the barbaric tortures during the Inquisition.
Read about the atrocities and massacres of the Incans and the Mayans in the conquest of the Americas.
Read about the near slavery conditions in the mission system in California.
Read about what the Christian Adolf Hitler did to the Jews and gypsies.
Read about the Christians in Serbia persecuting Muslims.
Read about the Christian Protestants and the Christian Catholics killing each other in Northern Ireland.
Read about what our white, Christian government did to our Native American population.
Read about what the Christian Ku Klux Klan did to slaves and free blacks in rural America.
Read about what the Christian neoconservative right did to subvert our constitution and incite an illegal war in Iraq.
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jordan119 months, 4 weeks ago
just watch one 9/11 show and you will not vote for anyone who could possibly be a muslim>>>>>
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Perhaps you're speaking for yourself, because you most certainly are NOT speaking for me. Obama will have my vote.
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JaimieM9 months, 4 weeks ago
The funny thing is that in the complete interview he accuses everyone else of smearing him, but then admits McCain / Palin actually did not do that.
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bluetexasvalley9 months, 4 weeks ago
I don't see how anyone could call this a gaffe. I understood exactly what he was saying.
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Candida9 months, 4 weeks ago
Now I'm getting fed up with this spam filter. Why do I have to type a full sentence to say:
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Me too ??? -
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TONJA-S9 months, 4 weeks ago
I watched that interview and thought....oops!! The truth comes out!! If he wasn't corrected, he wouldn't of gave it another thought.
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sinophil499 months, 4 weeks ago
Tonja - Oh puhlleeeze! Listen to it again.
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Although his syntax or phraseology was poor, he corrected himself and clearly meant the ISSUE of the allegations of his Muslim faith.
Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill!!
Haven't you neocons heard about Rev Jeremiah Wright and the controversy of Obama being in his church for 20 years? Obama had to dissociate himself from the over-the-top Wright.
So half of the neocons believe he still belongs to Wright's church and his militant christianity. The other half believes he is Muslim.
SHEEESH! Make up your collective minds which false accusation you guys want to use in your smear campaign!!!
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mark-stevens9 months, 4 weeks ago
I wanted to be a Santa's helper. I got bitter and became a republician
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jordan119 months, 4 weeks ago
We are ALL more intelligent than this.>>>>
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Bless your heart for wanting to think so, but sad to say that just isn't so. Ignorance has found a home in the republican party.
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MouseGoddess9 months, 4 weeks ago
There are several sects of Muslims, just like there are several sects of Christians. Baptists don't agree with what Methodists teach, Nazarenes don't agree with Lutherans, and everybody disagrees with Catholics! Even if he were a Muslim, it doesn't mean he's a terrorist. Being a Muslim in and of itself doesn't make a person bad. Different, maybe. But if there are extensive background checks in order to work in a bank, what do you think they do if you want to be President? This is just nit-picking! What if he were an Atheist? Nobody would like that, either. What about real issues, like his stand on the economy? We're sinking and we need someone who can figure out what to do about it. Is it Obama? I don't know............
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Candida9 months, 4 weeks ago
MouseGoddess: "What if he were an Atheist?"
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Then he would have zero chance of ever being elected. I agree with you that it shouldn't be so, but it is. -
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joey-evans9 months, 4 weeks ago
"....and everybody disagrees with Catholics!"
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I don't know why? Catholics ARE the DIRECT followers of Jesus. Roman Catholics are the Catholics of The Bible. All the other factions are false. That is in the Bible,
Just sayin'
JOEY EVANS
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AbuAmirah9 months, 4 weeks ago
Dude is not a Muslim. No muslim would put up with going to a CHRISTIAN CHURCH for 20 years plus. No Muslim would have the attitude towards the zionist entity that he has. Dude is about as Christian as they come. So dude left out some words during his interview. That doesn't make him a Muslim. I pi$$ed that the rest of you would think that by him being a Muslim would make him a bad president. Most of you are stupid, redneck, barely intelligent, don't read, and scarcely traveled a$$holes. Go ahead and vote for the dead man walking and his gun toting bimbo. I'll be laughing my ass off in 2013, when America is all f'd up, and you dumb sons of bitches will be voting of Palin for President
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MeaJen309 months, 4 weeks ago
Are you sure about that Abu - are you a Muslim?
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I wouldn't think that a muslim would blow himself/others up either, but some do, at least the radicals do...
By the way, it's a little twisted, that you would say we are stupid, redneck, barely intelligent, don't read, and scarcely travel...yet your comment has NUMEROUS typos in it, has curse words (the lowest form of communication), and name calls...so really, were you talking about yourself? -
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Mutainia9 months, 4 weeks ago
Hey, Abu, you say no Muslim would attend a "Christian" Church for 20 years plus? What if it had anti-America/pro-Hama sermons that would make the Nation Of Islam proud, which it did while he was there? Obama may not be a Muslim, but, he sure seemed to cater to them. I can see why you are for him.
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HateKoolAid9 months, 4 weeks ago
A perfect society is where we ALL get along and live peacefully among each other. Politics is the method by which we try to get to that point. When certain people inject religion into the process (My God is true and yours is false) it just brings us down to the primeval level we are at now. I think IF there is other intelligent life in the universe, surely they must have monitored our behavior and said ....."There nothing here to see folks, keep moving".
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gypsycat20089 months, 4 weeks ago
I feel hes always been a muslim look at his past and his name, his wifes comments. they are doing their best to get in and will do or say anything. get real. I know blacks want a black pres but at what cost ??? I am not prejudice just dont want anouther 911 from the white house because of the stupidity of some who feel they are being liberal. take notice. listen and use your brains.this man has no experience and is full of talk. hes against the white race. if we want that then go for it.
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sinophil499 months, 4 weeks ago
gypsycat - "I know blacks want a black pres but at what cost??? I am not prejudice (sic)"; "hes against the white race."
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REALLY??? Your post is the epitome of prejudice, misinformation, and twisted logic.
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hyperbola9 months, 4 weeks ago
Frankly, as a 14th generation American, I prefer someone who believes in the principles of american democracy as opposed to a "theocracy wacko".
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Sarah Palin used AK tax dollars to fund dominionist churches
Over the past few days, I've done reporting on Sarah Palin's extensive dominionist connections--including the attempt to run her as a "stealth" dominionist candidate and her connections to some scary dominionist groups including not just "Joel's Army" folks but a far-right Christian Reconstructionist political party linked to domestic terrorism.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin9 months, 4 weeks ago
your welcome to your opinion and to your vote
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but if you air your opinion publicly, you're gonna get feedback one way or the other
here's what you said:
'because of the stupidity of some who feel they are being liberal'
'use your brains.'
'blacks want a black pres but at what cost ?'
you start out insulting people-not good way to get your foot in the door as far as expressing yourself, in my experience
I think you should let blacks speak for themselves-even if you yourself are black, that does not give you leeway to speak for other people. I'm white, and I never recall saying 'whites want this or that'
how the heck do I know what other people want?
It also sort of hamstrings the whole 'one man, one voice, one vote' democracy thingamajig
I understand we let blacks and women vote nowadays along with everybody else-will find out what the voters want soon enough. Let them speak for themselves
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reviewer9 months, 4 weeks ago
The out of context sound bytes get old, but so does a front page of stories that mostly consist of bashing Palin or McCain. There are enough issues of concern about Obama (and McCain as to policy, for that matter) without making too much out of misspeak. It's starting to look like the headlines in Reddit this weekend.
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Incidentally, it is okay to not support Obama, it is okay to be Republican or Independent and it is okay to question patriotism -- thinking people of good concscience can disagree. (I think -- makes one wonder these days when any word can and will be misconstrued for political gain)
Yet, the petty attacks from either supporters towards each other do not help their respective candidate's image, let alone their own.
Otherwise, despite what some social media sites have you believe. I just hope we start getting to substance soon ....there is not much time in the election cycle left. I am missing the old Propeller, there was more variety and meaningful comments.
All of this said --- patriotism and religion are important issues be it Obama or Palin (the two least known), but submissions like this aren't informative on those accounts.-
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reviewer9 months, 4 weeks ago
Religion -- or lack of -- it affects your global world view...be it Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Mormon, Buddah ....or Atheist -- at least most will admit to it.
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To relegate importance means to consider how religion would impact one's executive decisions rather than as a means to prejudice.
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B1BLancer9 months, 4 weeks ago
I love all the Obama apologists here. Obama screwed up. Deal with it.
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Poulenc9 months, 4 weeks ago
And what if he were a Muslim? My understanding is that in America, one's religion is--or should be--a private matter that's irrelevant to one's ability to do whatever job one is called upon to perform.
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The underlying prejudice here is no less revolting than if the story asked, "Obama Admits He is a Secret Jew." Or Catholic. Or.....-
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hyperbola9 months, 4 weeks ago
There are substantial followers of the right that no longer believe in that principle of American democracy. They are loud and shrill in their attacks on everything that does not conform to their sect. Fortunately more ande more American christians are speaking out against them.
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Christian PAC boosts Obama in effort to broaden issues
The Matthew 25 Network is a group of Evangelical, Catholic, Protestant, and Pentecostal Christians which are sponsoring radio, television and print advertisements using religious appeals to encourage citizens to vote for Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin9 months, 4 weeks ago
''The underlying prejudice here is no less revolting than if the story asked, "Obama Admits He is a Secret Jew." Or Catholic. Or....''
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1000% right
and its 1000% unAmerican to even be discussing religion in a negative context and slant like this.
Didn't our forefathers come here to escape religious intolerance and bigotry supposedly?
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let's face it-we all know why many will flinch at that 'same as a Secret Jew or Christian comment
it's not the same to them
muslims are bad
it's as schoolyard simple as that to many
prejudice, pure and simple
some muslims did some bad stuff, so all muslims are bad, and we can't take the chance on electing a secret muslim, because he'll be bad too
I know I sound like a 5 year old BTW
sad, isn't it?
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REX9 months, 4 weeks ago
Hello everyone.
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It does not matter to me if he is an Muslim
What I feel about him that he is a kind as well as intelligent man.
The whole country is expecting great things from him.
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slate9 months, 4 weeks ago
I thought I'd better come in and read this before it's 'removed' from the site like yet another 2 articles that were against Obama from the Dail Kos no less. Funny, I can't remember any anti McCain or Palin threads removed, maybe Donie was on to somethng?
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That being said, I've already stated that I don't think he is one nor do I fear him more or less if he is. however, if he is, why would he hide that fact in a country that have freedom to be Muslim?
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gulfview7779 months, 4 weeks ago
jordon- NO I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A MUSLIM OR ANYONE WHO COULD POSSIBLY BE RESONSIBLE IN THE NAME OF "ALLAH" FOR TAKING DOW WORLD TRADE CENTERS AND THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO DID NOTHING BUT GO TO WORK AND MAKE A LIVING sino- you too are out of it. NO MUSLIMS- by the way Hitler was athiest you idiot
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jordan119 months, 4 weeks ago
And again; you're ignorant. Yelling won't change that. Oh, and if you knew anything at all, then you wouldn't have said "no muslims." We have a Muslim in the Congress. He took his Constitutional oath on the Koran.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin9 months, 4 weeks ago
I stand by what I wrote just above not 5 minutes ago
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buckncindykill9 months, 4 weeks ago
In Indiana, Obama tries to explain what he has learned since being president. He does correct himself, but this is not the first time we've experienced this kind of mix-up with Obama or his campaign. Remember the presidential seal? Or how about when he made his speech in Berlin and his advisors tried to say that is wasn't a political speech because, "When the president of the United States goes and gives a speech, it is not a political speech or a political rally." A reporter had to remind him that he wasn't the President.
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He sure gets ahead of himself; maybe he thought he was muslim at one time but now subscribes to christianity after being around Wright all these years. Either way, too many gaffes = I shouldn't have to run for this office, I deserve it already.
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buckncindykill9 months, 4 weeks ago
In this interview with Stephanopoulos, Obama slips and mentions "my Muslim faith." Now you watch this video for yourself. Obama tells George "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith ..." George interrupts to say "Your Christian faith." Obama responds with "My Christian faith ... well, what I'm saying is that he hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim."
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Draw your own conclusions. I don't believe he's a muslim ... but I do wonder what Stephanopoulos is doing correcting him.-
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Hhussk9 months, 4 weeks ago
Look. If you're a conservative, you are used to this. When liberals screw up on the screen, we typically notice how easy and lightly the interviewers question them. When conservatives make a screw up, or even attacks a liberal position, the interviewer will actually take the liberal defense position.
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We always see this. This is nothing new.
I mean, after all, Stephanopoulos was part of the Clinton administration. Would it be surprise anyone if he announced he was voting for Obama?
The problem here is that Obama has a speaking problem. Not the gaffe itself.
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gulfview7779 months, 4 weeks ago
i do not care if the guy is hindu, jew, worships buddah or whatever these religions are not violent muslim if the man rapes a woman then says its her fault then he throws hot oil or tortures her, or how about all the dads who kill their daughters for "HONOR OF THE FAMILY" this is ********
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not2needy9 months, 4 weeks ago
John McCain has no faith, sought out the endorsement of Hagee, only to have to denounce the man he sought out, which speaks volumes about his ability to pick people of real character. Obama is not a Muslim, that statement was nothing more than a gaffe, taken out of context, yet again!
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