Palin won't release 1100 e-mails »
Posted By Wil 1 year, 2 months ago in NewsThe Palin administration won't release hundreds of emails from her office, claiming they cover confidential policy matters. Then why do the subject lines refer to a political foe, a journalist, and non-policy topics?
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AntiNeoCon1 year, 2 months ago
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Dionys1 year, 2 months ago
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"I certainly am not a Palin fan, but hey...email is personal and private so why should anyone be able to look at it?"
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They're state governmental records and as such are part of the Public Record.
I'm guessing they'll be 'lost' like the millions of emails the White House 'lost' surrounding the dates of investigations. -
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Actually Palin has a record of using municipal and government infrastructure, including computers, to support GOP political campaigns. Indeed, Palin's Attorney General recently came up with the novel idea that the use of state resources by "state employees" (read political appointees) should not be subject to investigation for wrongdoing. One more example of abuse of political power.
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dunkirk1 year, 2 months ago
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Simple just like when you work for a company any private emails that you send are open to the company to examine. Your using their equipment. The same applies here she was sending emails using government equipment, it should be open for viewing., especially in cases of wrongdoing. As the REPUBLICANS loved to say, whats she got to hide?
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georgii11 year, 2 months ago
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Email written on the job is not private. If she was on the job, using puplic equipment, and accessing a public provided server; it's not private e-mail anymore. If I want it private I definitely would not send it through a work place service and at every job I've held at some point you are given notice that your e-mail are the company's property. Now, if she's writing and sending though a government service then they are actually the publics.
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Bradgrp1 year, 2 months ago
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Not when you're a public official. Any and everything that a public official does is "public" with a few exceptions. This is the continuation of the Bush Administration through and through. This nation is on the brink of collapse and we are a presidency away from an international incident. We won't have any allies in this world if Mccain/Palin is elected. Mccain is senile and inept.
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HateKoolAid1 year, 2 months ago
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The ones concerning public matters are not. Considering how 'dramatic' her family is I'm sure there are some that are not for the faint of heart but it looks like she is already cloning herself into another Bush with this executive privilege position.
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david_nwpa1 year, 2 months ago
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I doubt the Republicans have ever seen a video, a tape, an email or any other recorded bit of information they were not willing to shred or discard to keep their names clean. From Nixon to Bushco, to Sarah Palin, what the people cannot read cannot be used against her.
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epiphannyy1 year, 2 months ago
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I totally agree. And the claim that they might be classified is a joke. The cc's to her husband negates any argument claiming confidentiality or classified status. I doubt anything will come from this, since nothing has ever really come from Bush doing the same thing, but its just one more nail in the coffin for those listening and paying attention. Of course they are a matter of public record if they were sent on her office account by order of the Freedom of Information act. The fact that they are trying to hide them makes them so much more conspicuous too. She's proven herself to be a vindictive and spiteful person, both personally and professionally (according to the many different reports I've read quoting those closest to her). Its obvious these emails with subject headings about political foes are the "words from the horses mouth" that the GOP wants desperately to hide from the American public. Why? Because they like the Rovian politics that we've had in this country for the past eight years and don't want it to end. They like the great and growing expanse between us and them. They like being in power while the country flounders because, well, at least they're in power...right?
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In the end, the McCain/Palin ticket is looking less and less original and more and more like Bush/Cheney reincarnated. McCain, like Bush, isn't the smartest guy in the world, yet fairly popular among the middle American, blue collar voters as the guy they can most relate to (or in Bush's case, share a beer with). Palin, like Cheney, has the evil streak that that the GOP really loves. She's not afraid to fight dirty and take no prisoners. She's proven willing to do or say anything to get what she wants. And just like Karl Rove, she'll destroy anyone who even looks like they may cross her. Just look at the wake she's left behind her in Alaska...from the librarian who refused to her censorship order (unsuccessful attempt at firing her, but that was her intention and only stopped by the fact that she underestimated the popularity of the librarian) to the whole trooper-gate scandal. She is the worst of Cheney and Rove combined.
God help us if they actually get elected. I doubt seriously if our country can survive another 4 or more years on the same trajectory. If we don't incite the world to take us out by bullying everyone we can, we'll likely implode from the economic and social divisions that have grown exponentially during the Bush years. -
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david_nwpa1 year, 2 months ago
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Yes! If this were Joe Biden who were being subpoenaed by the Legislature in Delaware, and he refused to turn over 1,100 emails, wouldn't the Republicans be incensed if he refused to do so? Governor Palin is under investigation by the Alaska legislature for abuse of her office. The questionable emails are pertinent, relevant, and potentially damaging to her position in Alaska as governor and as VP candidate. She forfeited privacy and bought media scrutiny as soon as she accepted her candidacy.
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anschauer011 year, 2 months ago
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Exactly, this has happened at least half a dozon times in Minnesota, on both sides, and it was a very big deal here as it violated several laws on usingf public property and civil servants for private political purposes.
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Of course in welfare queen Alaska (highest per capita earmarks and 12th highest overall dollars) such corruption is probably business as usual.-
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lfergie8121 year, 2 months ago
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"Governor Palin is under investigation by the Alaska legislature for abuse of her office."
That's why she was picked as the presidential candidate. She already has experience in the art of cover-up which would be a continuation of the present policies of the Bush administration. McCain and Palin. Candidates that have nothing to hide but their life history in politics.
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quackpot1 year, 2 months ago
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Nixon's missing 18 minutes of tape set a president for making "missing" records cause for concern - and for good reason.
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Bush's zeal for making government unaccountable wvia super secret dealings has gone a lot further to make this sort of action unappealing.
The more that happens, the more the Republican candidates look line more of the same past seven-plus years. -
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Georgia501 year, 2 months ago
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She can delete all the emails she wants. But she can't scrub the servers.
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Any person running for office needs to count the cost before doing so. Certain issues and communication become public domain--period. Anything you say or write can and will be used against you if possible, and it's a given that you have opponents begging to do exactly that.
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VicRugby1 year, 2 months ago
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This Mother Jones article is a series of hints, innuendos and guesses. The mere fact that Palin provided a list of e-mail covered by priviledge demonstrates openness.
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All political parties, and politicians in power, have this priviledge. They all use it. This is not a Republican, Bush, or Palin thing, just as it is not a Democrat, Clinton or Obama thing.
The same people who are dismissing her experience are asking for these e-mails. If her experience is so inconsequential, then why the big need to see an inconsequential person's email?-
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anschauer011 year, 2 months ago
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Not in Minnesota, if you use public e-mails for personal campaigning you'll be in sh-t upto your eyeballs as several democrats and repubs have discovered. I guess you come from one of those corrupt repub states where basic civil service laws don't exist
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Progressive1 year, 2 months ago
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"If her experience is so inconsequential, then why the big need to see an inconsequential person's email?"
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Because McCain did not vet her, so the media must do the job for the electorate and this is part of the process. Otherwise this inconsequential person might end up leading the free world.
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koranagirl1 year, 2 months ago
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The courts have declared over and over that work emails are not private. Period. If she answers from a government website, she has to expect that it will someday become public. It's time for her to put on big girl panties and move on.
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lfergie8121 year, 2 months ago
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If she has any hope of coming out of this investigation clean, she should come clean. After all, it's the guilty that has anything to hide. Do we really want another lying group like the Bush administration back in the White House?
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RBL101 year, 2 months ago
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I think most people who insist on this are hypocrites. I'll bet there's not a single one of you that would like to have every email you ever sent in your office to be made public. There has to be some line drawn as to what's public. All this is doing is bringing out the hatchet job and conspiracy fanatics and giving an them excuse to do onto others what they would not want done to them.
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Georgia501 year, 2 months ago
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I support Palin. She needs to either open her emails or make a compelling case before a judge in order not to. Her only two options are whether to do so voluntarily or to have the investigators go through the necessary steps to compel disclosure, and then once a formal request goes through proper channels, whether or not to challenge it in court. -
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DeeDeeBeautyNBrains1 year, 2 months ago
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OK I can't stand it, have to chime in here. At work, on the job, your e mails are the property of your employer. In Palin's case, that is the people of Alaska. At home, have at it. Slander anyone you want, spend hours on facebook, go to the porn sites. At work, you are stealing from your employer when you do it. It's unethical.
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As 'koranagirl' and 'anschauer01' have both eloquently pointed out, it is already well-established in law and upheld in the courts. What is it that people don't get about that? I have talked to people who display all kinds of righteous indignation about their boss' monitoring of the employees' e mails. Even knowing that to be the case, they still can't stop themselves.
Stop being silly, people, and start asking our public officials to obey the law, regardless of their political affiliation. As all the furor over the stain on the blue dress should have taught us!
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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its utterly amazing how the repubs so quickly and willingly hung their hopes on this woman. it proves how desperate the repubs were for someone, anyone, to lead the way. they jumped, blindly, at the first person who walked in the door.
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and now its only been a week and more and more dirt is spilling out from everywhere about her.
she actually supported teh bridge to nowhere. as mayor she raised taxes, increased spending and created a deficit for her town then took off. she loves earmarks. she over-sold natural gas to foreign entities and left her American constiuency in a shortage mode. she's a jesus freak who used tax dollars for religious purposes. she condemns choice then applauds her daughter for making the "right" choice about her pregnancy (thus proving the legitimacy of the pro-choice argument). she's married to a secessionist. her church preaches hate. etc etc etc.
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 2 months ago
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As continues to be my usual response these days:
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Not surprised.
Much like a kid who will do what their parents do, because, obviously if your parents do it, it must not be wrong!
"But Uncle Cheney and Uncle Bush do it ALL THE TIME! Why can't I delete my e-mails!"
She sounds a lot like that POS Matt Blunt we have here in Missouri. -
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styxnut1 year, 2 months ago
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Unlike everyone else on here, I certainly am a Palin fan, and with good reason.
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Luckily most of America, more than half, agree with me on that one.
Her brother in law, the cop, was a piece of ****. Thats been proven.
So who cares if she used her political power to get him fired. He deserved it.
You would do the same too.
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quackpot1 year, 2 months ago
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Your pro-dictator approach to dealing with problems is TOTALLY ANTI-AMERICAN.
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The founders of this nation went to GREAT lengths to prevent such an abuse of power. Even in precolonial England such an abuse would not have been tolerated. Even in 16th century England with the antics of Henry VIII and Elizabeth such abuses were far from the norm.
The U.S.A. has a legal system for dealing with problems. The legal system does NOT include special mechanisms for Governors to met out punishment. -
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mitchrn2b1 year, 2 months ago
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All candidates whether a Dem or Repub, give up privacy when they run for public office. When Palin agreed to run for the VP slot, her career, email and family life are open for total public scrutiny. Thats the way it works for all regardless of poltical party.
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Can you imagine the uproar from the Republicans if Palin was a Democrat? They would be holding congressional hearings claiming she was formenting seccession from the USA. -
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pt109rick1 year, 2 months ago
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She's been contacted by some Rappers for a Rap Video. She struck a nerve with not only her looks but that she made the pitbull joke with lipstick. There are no pitbulls in Alaska. Win or loose, this lady is going to make a ton of money. That's what America is all about.
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
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FTA: "'I've known Sarah for years,' says McLeod, who moved to Alaska from New York in 1978. 'When the finger is pointed at somebody else, she's all for accountability. When it's pointing at her, it's different. Sarah Palin was elected on the basis of providing open and honest government. She has failed miserably.'"
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So much baggage, so quickly!
That said, time will, I believe, prove Palin to be an empty shoe: much bark, but no substance, to mix several metaphors.
Even as I type this I hear the sound of furious cramming sessions in which P. is being made debate-ready. Let's hope the cramming reveals itself as such.-
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PatrioticAmerican1 year, 2 months ago
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October surprise??? sounds like this guy is just waiting till october to try and damage McCain/Palin, if he has something he should push for it now , instead of waiting. The waiting till October just shows that this guy just wants to try and interrrupt the rally of McCain /Palin , and not actually after her for not opening her records, if she does then it should be with the stipulation that ALL of Obama and Bidens records are also opened after all if her records and emails are important when she is running for VIP then Obamas Records are more important since he is running for pres, he needs to discuss why 2 hospitals claim he was born in them and why only him and his mother say he was born in hawaii and all other memebers of their family say he was born in Kenya, and why he didnt file for nationalized citizenship when he turned 18 since his mother gave up US citizenship when she married BHOs father.
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