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Posted By Fedquip 1 year, 3 months ago in Science & TechnologyThe scientists behind the world's biggest-ever scientific experiment have received death threats from critics who claim it could cause the end of the world. Experts are attempting to recreate the forces that occurred in the immediate aftermath of the Big Bang, which created the universe. To accomplish this feat, the Large Hadron Collider, located in Geneva, Switzerland, will be switched on this Wednesday. Professor Brian Cox of Manchester University (who also played keyboards on the 1997 UK hit single "Things Can Only Get Better") is among those who have received the threats. He was quick to dismiss the public's fears about the LHC. "Anyone who thinks the LHC will destroy the world is a t---." To hear this ex-rock-star and British brainbox talk discuss the LHC in greater detail, check out the video below.
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fairleababy1 year, 3 months ago
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Onahuto1 year, 3 months ago
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I couldn't agree more.......
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After screwing up the natural environment just for greed or else to have more and replacing scientific investigations and formal/mathematical logic with mere faith or so called Creationism mumbo jumbo; this is time for our genes to go through an another evolution to get rid of those that instigates all sorts of non-scientific thought paradigms within us. I think only knowledge can take us to the route to the Truth that in turn enable us to transition to the next phase/level of existence. Only there we may(?) find the gateway to advance knowlwdge/experience which may enable us to ponder more effectively to ascertain the basic explanations behind the Big Bang or ..... other pertinent questions.........
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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Errrrr Huto, don't you think if this destroys the world it might not be good for the natural environment?
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Psssst if you didn't 'realize' man is part of the environment and made out of the same things this 'experiment is looking for as the rest of the things on this planet.
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smithichie1 year, 3 months ago
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How do you know you won't die in an accident the next time you bathe? Or drive a car? Odds are far greater to die those ways then by global catastrophe yet most of us deal with that risk and maintain both our hygine and our vehicles.
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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I'm all for it if they can get cold fusion pwer out of it. Plus I want to know all about the BIG BANG, since I don't separate the power called God and the Big Bang.
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Science is veryimportant to all humans. If it weren't for science, I wouldn't be able to argue with the good peple on here from around the planet from the comfort of my room.
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Phaedrus1 year, 3 months ago
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The world actually needs this, jeyliberty. The kids that play with this oversized toy will become the world's next generation of particle physicists, and even if the experiment produces nothing useful, these kids will find work producing clean nuclear energy when all the world' oil is gone, and some might even find jobs making isotopes for medical research and treatment of disease...
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Bottom line: yeah, it's one expensive toy, but it will educate the next generation of smart nuclear engineers - and that's got to be worth something.-
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smithichie1 year, 3 months ago
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Technology is a double edged sword, this is true today just as it was in the past. Learning to control fire has led to some being burned but what is the alternative? Personally I think the risk is worth cooked food and a warm house.
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jcpalmnj1 year, 3 months ago
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I say if we screw the universe up, so be it! what is an anonymous internet commenter going to do about it? Besides You and me will both die withing the next 150 years anyway. Universally speaking, that is so little time that ,universally speaking of course, it never happened. Get over it man. Either the universe ends (doubtful), or we discover our very origins (besides apes that is), and so many other possibilities that this could create. You make the choice for yourself and hope you can please every little insignificant internet commenter in the world. So what's your move?
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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Did you poop and dirty the planet today?
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Did you drive your car and pollute the air?
Did you turn on your computer and polute the air even more with the electricity?
How about the waste from the Cup of coffe you bought this morning, the burger at lunch and the bottled water?
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outridersrules1 year, 3 months ago
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I ALSO have a great idea jeyliberty. If your mother had kept her skanky legs CLOSED, then maybe the gene pool wouldn't have been infected by your subhuman intelligence. How about you do the world a favor and just dry up and blow away. THAT is something the world REALLY needs.
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jcpalmnj1 year, 3 months ago
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Thank god (lowercase) someone is talking sense. I mean do you honestly think that the lives we could save can measure up to answering the ultimate question? You don't know anything about the Colider? Do you jeyliberty? The possibilities of the results from this machine are literally endless. They range from Biology (about evoloution of course) to Space Exploration and everything in between. Get over yourself jeyliberty, or just go home and drown yourself and do something this whole world needs (ok so that was a bit harsh...sorry)
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stopnogo11 year, 3 months ago
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hey almighty jeyliberty, please enlighten us on the 'this world really needs'. I personally would like to use a very small portion of the money to have your head examined, and an even smaller amount to buy you a bible with a shovel handle on it so you can dig a hole and bury your head in it deeper.
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iceman31 year, 3 months ago
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ya i totally agree!I mean it'll be sad and all but who cares if the world ends its bad enough that we live like animals.F$@**&^ the world anyway i mean we all gona die eventuall. if this dont kill us all the neuclear holacost will surtinly will. if we survive that that freezing of the earth will.if this doesent kill us or if it does we would only be delaying the inevitable
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johnsmth_smith156 months, 2 weeks ago
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Opponents of the large hadron collider are afraid its ability to smash atoms at such high speeds that it will generate temperatures of one trillion degrees centigrade will create a mini-black hole that could “tear the earth apart” How could a "mini" black hole be stable and self-sustaining?For a black hole to exist do you not need to accept credit card or the mass of a large star to provide enough gravity to collapse normal matter into a singularity?
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How could colliding a few sub-atomic hadrons provide enough gravity to spontaneously degenerate the entire mass of the Earth?
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TSTE9285731 year, 3 months ago
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THIS IS TRUE. SCIENCE SAID THE EARTH WAS FLAT, THE
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STARS MOVED AROUND THE EARTH AND MANY OTHER
THINGS THAT SCIENCE PROVED WRONG IN LATER YEARS.
SCIENCE ALSO SAID THAT THE EARTH WAS THE CENTER
OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM. HISTORY AND SCIENCE HAS PROVEN
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iwasdreamin1 year, 3 months ago
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And yet, more and more scientists, particularly those who deal with such concepts as sub-atomic particles, are saying that the orderliness of the universe, whether created by a big bang or fashioned by a creator, leaves no doubt that there is an intelligence that formed the entire universe. The chances being random of that kind of specificity throughout all forms of matter gives odds far too great to imply that creation was happenstance. Some scientists who had made science their god for many years have sought out their Creator as a result of what they have learned in science.
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smithichie1 year, 3 months ago
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Here's a few for you.
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Donkeys and snakes can't speak. The Earth was never completely flooded. The moon does not produce light. Bats are not birds. Insects have 6 legs, not 4. Hares do not chew cud. Blood from birds and sheep followed by prayer does not cure leprosy. Eagles don't carry their young on their wings. The sun does not orbit the Earth. The Earth is not set on pillars. Pi does not equal 3. The sky is not a solid structure. Ostiches are not cruel, stupid birds who abandon their eggs. Snails don't melt. The Earth doesn't have boarders or corners. Stars can't fall from the sky. People can't live for 3 days in the belly of a whale. No mountain is high enough to see every kingdom. Mustard seeds are not the smallest seeds, nor do they grow into trees.-
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jcpalmnj1 year, 3 months ago
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Ahh be careful on the comment about the flood. It said it was a flood of the known world. Which is essentially true, the flood spread over the Mediterrainean Sea and beyond, where all known civilation was at the time of writing. But don't mistake me for a bible-quoting freak. I'm right on with the rest. I'm just trying to help a fellow person fend of the hoards of raving bible-freaks.
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smithichie1 year, 3 months ago
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I agree the flood myth may in fact be based on an actual event, such as the flooding of the Black Sea, however the bible clearly claims the waters covered the mountains "that were under the whole heaven". It further claims every thing on Earth died, a global event.
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I don't blame primitives for getting the story wrong or assuming their area was the whole world but it remains a biblical error.-
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jcpalmnj1 year, 3 months ago
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Well played. I have no reply because everything you say is right. Maybe it's a little ignorance showing through on my part, but I decided not to consult The Bible before posting. Good call. It's nice to be able to finally have an intelligent conversation with someone on a forum without a raving lunatic screming his divinity's name and denouncing the rest of us. At least I have enough humility to realize I'm wrong (hint hint creastionist "scientists")
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TSTE9285731 year, 3 months ago
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THERE ARE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS THAT PROVE JESUS
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WAS A PERSON AND AT THE TIME PERIOD THE BIBLE SAYS
HE WAS HERE. SO YOUR ZERO EVIDENCE HAS ZERO TRUTH
IN IT. AS AN EDUCATED PERSON I FIND IT MUCH EASIER TO
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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To your latter point: the Big Bang theory does not posit the universe came 'from nothing'. A singularity is certainly not nothing. What cosmologists are unsure of is what existed before that singularity. Indeed, we may never know, but there are several theories. Some theories may gain evidence from the observations of the LHC collisions, while others may be entirely discredited.
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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That's not entirely accurate. Most science builds on previous science. It is quite rare for an accepted theory to be entirely proven wrong. Darwinian evolution has remained mostly accurate for the past 150 years, though it has certainly been built upon by Mendelian genetics.
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markmawn21 year, 3 months ago
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Darwinism has been adopted by the "right" in the form of Social Darwinism, which is derived from an incorrect intepretation of the Survival of the Species doctrine.
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One missing detial about Darwin is that he also stated that systems work due to cooperation of the species, not the alleged elimination of weaker species. If the stronger species were to eliminate the weak, they would be committing species suicide. Balance is the key to survival. -
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The bible said God greated the creatures of
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the water first. From the waters came the fowl
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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Science is not about 'proof' at all. That is the realm of logic. All of science can be entirely complete and consistent in pointing to naturalistic causation, and yet God could still 'show up'. Science is 'factual', but the epistemologist in me wouldn't call it 'truthful'.
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robear1 year, 3 months ago
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and your assuming that it was actually "created"? who says it was created - who said it had to be made? what if its always been there? why does everybody always think in beginnings and ends? what if there never was a "beginning"? hell for all the know the big bang is part of a large cycle the universe goes through over and over and over and over again. cant ever find anybody around with an open mind. bunch of closeminded ***** around here - especially the religious types - personally i classify people like that a rung or two lower than most people on the evolutionary chain.
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nelak5921 year, 3 months ago
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thank u.......finally that was cleared up because i know for a fact that Aristotle(to some one of the fathers of science) thought that man was at the center of the universe and the church accepted this and most of the things that he said,thought, and believed. And this is why the church believed this......and if u dont believe me google aristotle and the great chain of being
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and another thing the bible was not written to be historically accurate...it was written to change ur internal self or ur nephesh.....and when you ever read a story in the bible you must think of what the text meant to the author and audience of that time....not if it is historically accurate.
almost all of these comments sound like they come from a bunch of fundamentalists who are soooooo ignorant ....just think before you type next time and research and dont think everything you believe is right(not right as meaning truth but right meaning morally right and wrong
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Warrior0121 year, 3 months ago
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You probably have no idea what you are talking about when you say they have proved the church wrong. Scientists have tried to dissprove many many things in the bible Guess what they have not found one thing that is inaccurate. It is the most questioned book in existance and not even your almighty scientists have proven it wrong. One day you will know that God does exist I just hope it isn't in the end of your days.
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smithichie1 year, 3 months ago
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You don't need a scientist to find errors in the bible, you just need to be able to read. There are two accounts of Genesis, one has animals being created AFTER humans, the other has animals being created BEFORE humans. They can't BOTH be right, so right there in the very beginning is a blatant error, the first of hundreds.
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nelak5921 year, 3 months ago
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what your are saying is that when you read the bible you take everything to be a historically accurate truth....well IF the answer to that question is yes than what you are saying is just fundamentalism......which is in the strictest sense an emphasis on a literal interpretation of a religion's sacred texts, in this case the bible.....................if you did not know by now that is the wrong way to interpret the bible
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smithichie1 year, 3 months ago
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I agree it shouldn't, but I think the problem comes from a misunderstanding of the word faith. I find it amusing to no end, how many people will tell me how strong their faith is in their god and then try to PROVE their god to me.
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If you have proof, what's the faith for? I don't have faith in elephants, black holes or atoms, I have 'proof' in the form of strong, tested, testable, observable evidence for these things so no faith is needed. -
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jcpalmnj1 year, 3 months ago
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I always took the stories of the Bible metaphorically, because it was my understanding that snakes don't talk, and that means that Adam and Eve is symbolic of human's falling away from faith in the lord. Ironically this lead to my own loss of faith. I am now a proud Atheist who can respect your beliefs as long as you don't preach them in my face. I know what I am. I don't need someone who believes in an entity who controls everysingle thing in the universe (all at once) getting in my face about what I should believe
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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"Scientists have tried to dissprove many many things in the bible Guess what they have not found one thing that is inaccurate. "
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There is no evidence of a world wide flood. A flood of that magintude would leave evidence (unless of couse that supreme supernatural creature you call God cleaned up it''s mess)
How long did Adam live. Who did Adam and Eves children mate with. Doesn't that mean we're all products of incest or what?
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jcpalmnj1 year, 3 months ago
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Ignorant faithful like you are the reason we haven't been able to advance to our full potential as a race (product of EVOLUTION, don't even try to challenge me). I respect the faithful, and think there is a place for religion in this world. This place is not, however commenting about topics they have no idea about. When you learn something about science and are not some evangelical nobody who rejects all science because there aren't formulas in "The good book" you can discuss it intelligently. Until then, go to church and enjoy life. Because life is to short to waste it arguing about topics that are obviously way over your head.
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moiw1 year, 3 months ago
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do u ever hear urself talk, i bet if u did ud sound like a complete D%*#@$bag
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i mean saying theres a god is fine beliveing it is fine but but saying somone else is wrong is totaly intolerent i mean realy most scientist are religous but still see science is a major part of the world and creation of life and and you no what i still fine it funny people who belive in god and act like u think there right seeing that they believe in tolerence and acceptance in there religion wow i mean could you be more of a hypocrit , -
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geoguy1 year, 3 months ago
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What a wonderful talk by Brian Cox! As a former PhD student of Carl Sagan's I can appreciate Brian's ability to convey an exceedingly complex topic in a very compelling manner. I was captivated--and gratified that he recognized Carl's contribution to science communication, which is inestimable.
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As far as these knuckle-headed (or perhaps knuckle-dragging) threats re: the LHC, it just shows that ignorance in the world is profound and rampant--and that some idiots, having missed out on the last 4.5 BY of evolution, still have mostly hydrogen and helium in their unexpanded craniums. -
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Coatl1 year, 3 months ago
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"Who knows what this thing can do!"
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The people actually doing it, you may want to stop a congress sesion because you think that what they do may destroy the world, but that doesn't mean that they have to stop based only in your ignorance. -
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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"Who knows what this thing can do!"
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It's simple really. They seperate two streams of protonsand excellerate them in opposite directions to nearly the speed of light and then cross the streams and watch what happens when they collide. Kind of like smashing a fine watch with a sledge hammer and then examining the pieces in hopes of determining how the watch worked.
But really they're looking for the Higgs Boson.
They can split an atoms and even fuse atoms together in bombs I don't think splitting sub atomic particiles will destroy the world either.
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nicpapa1 year, 3 months ago
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Where the hell did you get 60%? thats a completely made up statistic. Just like this. Theres a 60% chance you ate your own feces this morning. Now obviously you didnt eat your own feces this morning. But according to my statistic theres a 60% chance you did..
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"Why are ppl just letting this happen?"
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oddtech1 year, 3 months ago
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I think 60% in this subject is a velocity of 111,600 miles/second, the earth is less than 4000 miles thick. that means 35 thousandths of a second to clear earth if it goes through the long way and it won't be coming back. A quantum black hole wont lose much velocity going through earth it's mass to drag is too high.
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jag1 year, 3 months ago
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I think it is highly unlikley that the beginning of the universe began with a "big bang". Just the odds of us getting it right the first time (our theory of "big bang) are a long shot. Maybe the universe is a lot older than we think.
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JsDragColt1 year, 3 months ago
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I think you are close. The universe having the big bang would indicate that there was a universe before the big bang. A world coming to an end creating a big bang for the rest of the universe. Maybe it even happened after a certain machine was turned on! Our history seems to repeat itself all the time. Why not the end of the world?
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pdramoslll1 year, 3 months ago
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HaHa. Could be that the last guy in the room flipped the switch billions of years ago and fried us all.
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Or it could be like Mr. Anderson/Neo returning to the core to deposit the info in his programming and thus beginning the Matrix for the eight time and Zion begins again new with the chosen ones to repoplate the world.
Or couldn't we just take the machine and it's created mega ball of energy/dark matter that's attracting all the matter towards it and drop it in a river just next to the LHC just like Dr. Octopus and Spiderman did in Spidey 2? That would stop the reaction correct?
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swasdiva1 year, 3 months ago
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I watched a special on Discovery once about a theory that the universe has been through several big bangs based on measurements of how fast/slow the universe is expanding, pointing to a more cyclical existence, so your idea is a pretty solid one.
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swasdiva1 year, 3 months ago
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The problem is that most people commenting here about God don't respect that if he created everything, by their reasoning, he created science and our human ability to experiment with it. God has no place in this article not because the article excludes him, but because some of his "students" are blowing smoke about a concept they know nothing about. This article is not about defending or offending God, it's about something completely removed. Honestly, I'd bet God is rolling his heavenly eyes right now about the ignorance in some of these comments.
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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I'm not going to leave Him out of it like most people do...He is the creator of all things...including science! The only reason we have a universe to study is because He created
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Can God create a boulder so heavy that even God can't lift it?
Can Gods creation create a machine that can destroy Gods creation?
Can't God just stop it if it's going to destroy the universe?
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willottica1 year, 3 months ago
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I think you're onto something there. If God is infinite, omniscient and all-powerful, then surely He would stop us from destroying His Earth. I mean, He gave us free will... but even if you give your kid a toy, you can still take it away when it becomes clear they're about to choke on it.
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norgermish1 year, 3 months ago
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Hi camr1987,
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I understand the attitude that science minded people have toward "christians" sorry about all the wierd attitudes we give. Just a quick comment on your post. In truth those that followed Jesus are called students. The word to describe them is disciple, in Greek (transliterated) mathetria. It means student, disciplined learner. I love to learn it's relly cool. Hmmmm what would a computer be without input?:) You know there was something written in the bible, that really made me think, From a science view. It was written aprox 2700 tears ago. "As far as the East is from the West, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. " At first glance it is just a sentence, but I thought, Why East West, why not North South? It dawned on me, if I walk North eventually I will start heading South, only about 12,000 miles. But if I walk East I will always be heading East. The distance is infinite. There are amazing truths in science really cool stuff, and when looked at without prejudgement the bible is an amazing book as well. It takes time and serious study, historical, social, etc. But essentially it is about love and living to improve each other.
Take care thanks for reading this:)
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JsDragColt1 year, 3 months ago
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First of all, why is there a need for such a machine? Science can't even cure a cold how are they going to guarentee this machine will not harm anyone or anything within it's range. For that matter affect the current time line? One would think there are far more important studies to be done.
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eleda1231 year, 3 months ago
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People who rode horses scoffed at the need for cars. You can't even guarantee that car, that machine won't harm anyone (major cause of death here in the US in case you haven't been paying attention!) or its surroundings (heard of CO2 emissions?). Where did you see that this new contraption would affect the time line, and hey, couldn't we all use a little fast forward/rewind button on life? :)
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And "Science" could cure the common cold...Scientists, researchers, HUMANS just haven't gotten there yet. The nature of people has always been to seek answers for what they don't know, or are unsatisfied with the current explanation. Just as many people seek to stymie that progress of knowledge because they are already sure (see religion). How about, if you think there are far more important studies (and I'm curious what those would be), go do them! Research! Study! Prove them wrong! -
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cleare1 year, 3 months ago
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i think exploring the birth and nature of the universe (and the behavior of smashing protons with all their associated particles like quarks) is well work the effort...i can't wait until they fire the machine up - let the fireworks begin!
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shoewindow30001 year, 3 months ago
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Remember, scientists are only human. They are just as open to arrogance and narrow-mindedness as anybody else. I just hate how a scientist's word is always taken as 100% infallible by the general public, simply because of the fact that they are a scientist. There have been many times in history when a scientist was not willing to change their opinion on something, regardless of what the evidence may have come to show later on. They tend to be offensive and attack someone who may think differently. Even in the so-called "enlightened" era of today, many scientists have over-inflated egos.
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My point is that if the people on this project are not completely sure as to what they are doing, they should let the world know. It is better to let their egos deflate a little bit, rather than to have
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knockinright1 year, 3 months ago
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sprite6225 - let me ask you. What are you wearing? Cuase I bet something some scientist who "... just can't admit that they're wrong. I guess one day they'll figure it out" invested the one of the materials associated with what you are wearing. Or maybe you had a vaccine that saved your life. Keep your faith, its fine. If your gonna make a comment like that, live in the woods, don't interact with society cuase your bound to benefit from something a scientist invented or discovered.- yours truly...a scientist
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Athena824871 year, 3 months ago
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CERN and the collider have been around for years. If people are just hearing about it now and are getting outraged, well, that's their own fault. One of my good friends is in experimental physics. She recently worked at CERN and is convinced that everything will be okay.
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protectuwithfire1 year, 3 months ago
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Anyone who thinks the LHC will destroy the world is a... tart? I agree. If scientists thought there was even a remote chance the Large Hadron Collider could destroy the world, they would not have spent years and billions of dollars building it. Sending scientists death threats is the epitome of ignorance.
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freegamesonline1 year, 3 months ago
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You rright.regards http://www.onlineflashgames.org
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hailcat1 year, 3 months ago
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Are these the same gloom & doom critics Who say that humans have caused global warming? What proof do they have? Scientists must continue to experiment which might someday help solve our problems. Congress certainly have not been able to solve our problems.
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babykay07221 year, 3 months ago
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I just want to know why it is so important that they turn this thing on...what will that accomplice? Who exactly needs to verify how the world was created anyway? If they are right what will that accomplish? Just so they can go to all the people with religion just to say "your wrong"? I think it is better for people to have that wonder. Alot of people NEED to believe there is more. Im not saying which I believe is true, but I just think it is crazy to put our world in danger to prove who is right or wrong.
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Athena824871 year, 3 months ago
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I think it's more like they're doing it because they can. It doesn't have anything to do with religion, and I wish people would stop trying to say that it does. Science breeds technology. They're just trying to test theories and then see what they can do from there. That's it.
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nicpapa1 year, 3 months ago
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They arent trying to prove religion wrong they are trying to discover the beginnings of the universe and how particles developed and what makes the universe act the way it does. If not for people like them you wouldnt have anything. In fact you probably would have died from disease and starvation rather than stating your poorly informed opinions on an imaginary space (internet) created by intelligent people.
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Whitex1 year, 3 months ago
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If anyone IS proving anything there going to prove that "god" is the most infulanced mass murder out there, think about how many killed in the "name of god"
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you might Argue: "God dosent kill man, man kills man"
well, there would be no killing in the name of god if ppl knew it was a myth, dont you think?
If man kills man then dont bring religion into it... Its just a scapegoat to make the weak minded feel better about their choices.
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Altier4991 year, 3 months ago
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haha..even though i dont believe God created existence..this made me chuckle...
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with the world so corrupt these days, if this thing does what its supposed to do without screwing up..then maybe we can solve some prolems..
(ie) - should this thing reveal elements/protons/etc. that have not been found yet, maybe cures for diseases or legitify cloning (not the stem cell version)...
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stormiekim031 year, 3 months ago
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Protect- The reality is they do not know what will happen if the experiment works this time. They tried before in either 2005 or 2006, and the magnet chain was off. And I'll be quite honest with you that does cause me to worry slightly. The Higgs Particle is greatly unknown. And I do not believe a single scientist with a conscious would be doing this, especially with the 60% chance of "something going awry". It is absolutely ludicrous.
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mikegugliemelli1 year, 3 months ago
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This experiment is 17 miles long and how long did it take to build, somebody knows something about what this can do and the technology supporting it, is from whos minds???? Scientists are very smart people and with the catstophes on earth the past 40 years somebody needed to try something extraterestial who knows maybe a human will come out at the end of the experiment or some fresh dirt lol a modest investment for an unknown return hmmmm.... or is it propaganda???Years ago my Grandfather told me that the items from the incident in Roswell was used to create more sophisticated craft to leave our earth and communicate to and from places they didnt know about and it was impossible to think of such things here on earth, I think he was right. What if we retrieved an aircraft from our future years ago? Would we have used its information in this present day but anyway I think the experiment is safe and confined enough that collateral damage would be confined to those who are monitoring the results, you cant blow up this planet with whats from here and besides were just a speckle in space. Im still trying to find a woman who has morals, maybe I can invent one........
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pdramoslll1 year, 3 months ago
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Death threats? What? Over the chance that we might create a black hole in the LHC? I'm a NOOB at this physics stuff but from what I've read wouldn't we need a huge particle accelator (1000 lightyears in diamter) to ceate a micro black hole? Don' t theories speculate that high energy cosmic rays coliding with the atmosphere of earth can also create these black holes? Don't most theories postulate that the smaller a black hole the more energy it emits rather than consumes?
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ollytoo1 year, 3 months ago
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I can't imagine how in the world they ever convinced those in charge of the purse strings to release so much money to build this monster machine to try to prove what they call their 'creation story.' Just think of all those who could have been helped with all this wasted money. I will be surprised if this experiment proves this fairy tale they have spun, but I won't be surprised if they blow-up themselves trying.
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realmikejones1271 year, 3 months ago
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It is apparent to me that in time we will have the capacity to create worlds. It is not the discoveries that we have seen in the distant cosmos that have brought us to the creation of this technological monstosity. It is in fact the discovery of all things inward, minute, and seemingly invisible. In order to build on a galactic scale one must first behold all its intricate components thereof. The supreme being or should i say master architect of this universe within the myriad of the now known polyverse is most wise. This is the destiny of man. To one day become one and the same with the creator. We are no doubt created in its image. It is knowledge of self that will help us attain this notion as fact and undenyable truth.
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pdramoslll1 year, 3 months ago
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That's Mr. Gore's next movie and he will win the Nobel prize in Physics for it. Then he's gonna invent a new fuel yet unheard of and he will get the Nobel prize for Chemistry for that (movie included for free). Of course there will be a whirlwind tour for each of these monumental events.
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mcast19741 year, 3 months ago
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So let me get this straight, there may be a possibility that the earth might experience "Doomsday". My questions are, when were they, "Scientist", going to tell the world?, how am I going to explain this to my 4 year old child?, and finally if somthing does occur and I survive, I Hope that People around the world could stop f...ing around and bring every one of those m...fer..s to justice for crimes against humanity and genicide.
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marcus325881 year, 3 months ago
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i belive in god just as much as anyone else but who is to say that god is a being he could be a speck that was the first attempt of evalution. the bible isnt tru look and the new finding here in the us where the new findings totaly went against the old book. The bible never tells you the whole story. it is like a guideline 4 what 2 do and not 2 do.
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crespi1 year, 3 months ago
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Anyone who would risk all our existence to gratify his scientific ego on some theory is a MAD scientist.
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I don't doubt for an instant we have reached the capability for such horror.
They said we could never affect the atmosphere because it was "too vast." Then we had lethal coal smog over the whole of London 100 years ago, burned holes in the Ozone starting in the nineteen fifties, and are melting the icecaps and glaciers in the new millennium. They said we could never affect the ocean because it was "too big." Now dolphins have Herpes from human medical waste, the fish are loaded with heavy metal pollutants, and there are huge dead spots forming out there. Oh, WE can ignite all the oxygen in our atmosphere, or something else that would kill everything and ALL of US, because we are SO STUPID!!!!
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jxv6051 year, 3 months ago
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curiousity keeps us going foreward, wether god created the universe or not is a great debate which we must continue. science is our way of finding how things work in the universe. it is human to try to figure things out, and to try to solve earthly issues and problems. religion is also a guide for humans that higher forces may be working also in the universe. truth is we still dont know. if your religious keep your faith, if not continue to look for answers.
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rdbda1 year, 3 months ago
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Curiosity just makes us go places. But it's now always forward. Or better said, it's not always the good path. Science is like walking between quicksands. If you're in a safe place you can choose to remain there (till you slowly die of boredom, if not hunger). But if you choose to walk, you have a chance to progress, but also a chance for a sooner death if you make a wrong step. And 'crespi' above gave some good examples of such wrong (most of which irreversible) steps human kind has done in the last 150 years.
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cHEsteRO1 year, 3 months ago
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if god created all things, then he created diseases for a reason. and from my experience diseases kill and or make life suck for all living things, so if we try to cure diseases or eliminate them then we are working aganist god or out right playing god.
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panhermes1 year, 3 months ago
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Let's all 'prey' something most extraordinarily fantastic happens when at long last scientists pull the switch-It best have nugatory effect on my TVO---
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Why, I posit, Y O Y does everything happen to ME???
IF it's not this it's that, if not something then it's something else-IT"S AAAAAAALLLLWAAAAYS
somthin'.
For those who fear some sorta G-o-d thingy-may you get your wish---
As for moi, I'll drink to that!!!!
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LivinWhim1 year, 3 months ago
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There isn't an Atheist on a crashing plane....good luck kids. As for me I am saying an extra prayer, kissing my kids twice, and coming clean on how much I reallly charged at Nordstroms last week. JUST IN CASE As for the Geek Squad in charge of this "experiment" I'll say a prayer for them too.That the people who want to harm them don't get to them before they get to us. just because there is science doesn't mean there isn't a GOD ,,if anything they celebrate him by discovering and sharing all that his wisdom and hand creates.
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svego511 year, 3 months ago
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Funny that some people think God is the answer to all things that go right or wrong, gee how nice and simple.
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The human race as we know it is some 50,000 years old or more, and this God is 2008 years old.
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amusedfred1 year, 3 months ago
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End of the world? I guess someone should tell God that His time for us has been bumped up so He can make other plans lol. News of the end must really anger terrorists as well since scientists will have beaten them to the punch? Worst case scenario, maybe they can use the device to microwave hotdogs? See you all tomorrow ;)
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Altier4991 year, 3 months ago
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I dont believe that God created existence and that we had to come from somewhere...
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so if this thing does what it is supposed to do (without exploding/destroying the world/etc.) then maybe we can finally understand some of the earths common problems..
MAYBE this thing will reveal the true way to clone things (not the stem cell way) and we can clone food/etc. to feed the hungry/etc.
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RMcMillan1 year, 3 months ago
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"...If the weak force had been a little bit different then carbon and oxygen wouldn't be stable inside the hearts of stars and there would be none of that in the universe..."
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Unfortunately, at a certain point, we can never know why these things are the way they are only that they are. So what kind of world does this leave the "naked ape"? Thanks, I'll take the research but you can keep the conjecture.
What we have here is another dandy harlequin standing on the bedrock of science contributing his two-cents to the atheist movement. Why is it that so-called objective scientists like this always inject evolutionary bias into their research? Don't be deceived by this minion or the collective bias he represents. He has given an inductive argument, where the premises all seem true but the conclusion is false. We did not evolve! For those of you who are wondering, God doesn't forbid scientific endeavors, just our worship of them.
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Altier4991 year, 3 months ago
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I dont believe that God created existence and that we had to come from somewhere...
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so if this thing does what it is supposed to do (without exploding/destroying the world/etc.) then maybe we can finally understand some of the earths common problems..
MAYBE this thing will reveal the true way to clone things (not the stem cell way) and we can clone food/etc. to feed the hungry/etc.
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realmikejones1271 year, 3 months ago
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We are in terms of civilization at a cross road between spiritual and technological enlightenment. As yin cannot exist indipendeptly without yang we must acknowledge the fact that we can only achieve harmoneous balance through trial and error. Realisticly these scientific breakthroughs and/or blunders are one and the same with our daily learning experience as well. Now is not the time to criticize those whom are obviously gifted scientifically. Neither should we bash our spiritual leaders. What we must realize is that we are all infants to the truth and reason for all things "being". In time when all life has become catalyzed and calibrated with the upcoming photon belt, we will all become enlightened. Thus eradicating ignorant criticism of things that we either fear or simply have no knowledge of.
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It is apparent to me that in time we will have the capacity to create worlds. It is not the discoveries that we have seen in the distant cosmos that have brought us to the creation of this technological monstosity. It is in fact the discovery of all things inward, minute, and seemingly invisible. In order to build on a galactic scale one must first behold all its intricate components thereof. The supreme being or should i say master architect of this universe within the myriad of the now known polyverse is most wise. This is the destiny of man. To one day become one and the same with the creator. We are no doubt created in its image. It is knowledge of self that will help us attain this notion as fact and undenyable truth. -
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Gregpoo1 year, 3 months ago
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Have you ever seen the movie Earth two, I fear that as had been said polution, wars, and too many people being born all over the word you need a super size space station as in the move for TV Earth two, where many people a million would live without hate or that would not even allow even toy guns to be up on this super mega size space station, while our eath we live on just turns into dust and it could no have any life human or plants or animals all will end but on Earth two all will live on in peace
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Fedquip1 year, 3 months ago
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I thought I should add, you can watch this live
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PainGoddess1 year, 3 months ago
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This has nothing to do with religion and that is another category here. What a bunch of willy nillys thinking the end of the world is near. SO WHAT! The rest of the universe wouldn't care either way. The universe does not revolve around US> ;)
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baldlars1 year, 3 months ago
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Well, I think this is a great opportunity to finally prove whether God exists ...
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If during the experiment the world is destroyed, then God must exist and he destroyed us for messing around in his domain.
On the other hand, if the experiment is successful, then it proves that God doesn't exist, since we are one step closer to having God-like powers.-
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rdbda1 year, 3 months ago
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either what swasdiva said, or God just created humans because after a while it may have gotten a bit boring just watching the rest of creation developing according to preset rules. He/She created a being capable of slowly reverse engineer different creation processes, to see how that would develop.
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Enigma191 year, 3 months ago
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I have to agree with 'okokok'...people you should really read up on something, esp. something this important, before you spout out comments. The reason this machine is looked upon to be disastrously dangerous is because it has been found that if used, can cause little black holes in our system...and if we all know what blackholes do, they pull things toward them, things like, hmm our planet..Think about it..
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swasdiva1 year, 3 months ago
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There was a family stuck on the roof of their house during a flood. They prayed for God to save them. A boat came by and asked if they needed help, but the family said, "No thank you, we're waiting for God to save us." They continued to pray and a helicopter came by, offering to help them, but again they said, "No thank you, we're waiting for God to save us." After many hours of unanswered prayers, the dad got a little angry and shouted, "God, we've been praying for so long for your help, and you haven't done anything!" Now God was pretty frustrated by this point and answered, "I've sent you a boat and a helicopter, what more do you want?!"
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Everyone's heard this story before, I'm sure, but I couldn't resist. If God wanted to end the world, which I don't believe will happen with this scientific experiment, he'd probably use natural means.
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phenderson_11 year, 3 months ago
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couple things i kinda understand by theory and chemistry and televisions : only a theory
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or a guess but i know not exactly when platonium and uranium you get split atom from the uranium atom if its possible what happens if the heat is so immence it splits a normal atom or the H atom or moecule he was talking about what happens if the machine just explodes from the heat i doubt the hole thing is made from titanium or heat resistant materials will people be hurt ? ok so its a super magnet will it atract metiors ? throw us off course ?
create a giant atom explosion ? just melt from the heat ? is there some type of cooling feature ? what the heck happened to E = mc 2 wtf if something break that energy has to go somewhere .9999.9 speed of light -i know some pilots have said that when they go speed of sound there voice catches up to them and there is a sonic boom -- they can here there voice in future from the start point of sound barrier being broken --does the speed of light also have a light barrier that creates a boom ? i think in reality if this was a time machine
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james62m261 year, 3 months ago
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D bags,
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The experiment isn't actually going to be done until October 21st, 2008.
So you all can go on with your lives. My opinion is that the world won't end. Whoever thinks they positively KNOW what is going to happen on the 21st is mistaken. People only have ideas of what may happen. Not even the 8000+ scientists know what's going to happen when the experiment starts.-
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markmawn21 year, 3 months ago
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Yeah, really the end is on October 20th. So the experiment is to kick start the second Big Bang AFTER the end so that it can start all over again.
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Either that, or that Red Dwarf episode "Backwards" is prophecy and we start living our lives in reverse-time.
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soulfly6201 year, 3 months ago
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"All of you are out of your minds and really are twisted. Its almost like the world has lost faith in everything they ever once believed in. Most of you need to read the bible again because scientists make absolutely no sense."
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Actually, many of us have lost faith in what truely makes no sense, The Bible. Yes it may be a good bunch of stories and have a message of how to live and treat others with respect BUT, the book of Genesis is Fiction. Many of us aren't satisfied with the simplicity of how the world began that the Bible offers. Honestly it makes little sense. Science at least strives for new answers and ideas rather than drowning in the old, stagnant pool of ideas known as Religion. -
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emailthe1 year, 3 months ago
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Just check the x-rays of the welds on the containment vessel!!! They were all faked!! Corrupt inspector!!! Millions of dollars are at stake!!! Just drop leaflets all over the muslim world stating that George Bush is in there!!!! Then they will fly a plane into it and and we can wait for Russia and Venezuela to destroy the world.
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actual, live footage of singing angels, recorded by Professor's Cox's colleagues.....try and top that!! ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl-ai9HuR60
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yeah, didn't think so.
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this is live footage of what REALLY goes on behind the closed doors of science labs everywhere. Now. You. Know.....and bet you didn't know scientists could dance like that, did you? never, EVER, let their nerdy demeanors fool you.
now, what you do with this information, is up to you......
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tunaboat691 year, 3 months ago
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Maybe Metallica should push up the release date of thier new cd DEATH MAGNETIC from Friday to Wednesday to coincide with this. Let's give everyone a double dose of stress over nothing...lol. Makes me wonder if Metallica knows something even these scientist don't know....lol. I have heard some of the new cd, and I am thinking that it will produce more energy than this experiment. And if the people who are making the death threats are thinking this is going to end the universe as we know it, aren't making death threats a waste of time?Hopefully this will somehow eliminate all of the stupid people in the world. Once this is turned on and scientists figure out even more about everything that created this universe and everything in it, make sure if you posted a death threat, you go on living life in "stone-age" mode. The rest of the world can and will progress without you. Maybe you should take your death threats to Pakistan and use them on Bin Laden, not some scientists who want to figure out exactly why you are here.
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jag781 year, 3 months ago
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the guy said that the universe was perfectly balanced in order for creation.what happens when u mess with that balance???has anybody ever heard of"for every action there is an opposite or equall reaction"Higgs are unkown...maybe set of a chainreaction..just a thought...then maybe not
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Daltonic1 year, 3 months ago
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If Obama is not ready to lead then why is GWB following his lead and moving Troops to Afghanistan
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If Obama is not Ready to lead then why is John McCain Following his Lead in is massage for Change
If Obama is not ready to lead then we are in for 4 more Looooooooog years.
If John McCain is different then Bush Why are the same people telling you to vote for John McCain
that told you to Vote for BUSH Shawn Hannity, Glenn Beck, Pill head radio Guy, Karl Rove,
Look take it from a Gate American : “ Fool me once shame on me Fool me twice , well your not goan
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fashion11 year, 3 months ago
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excellent!! I couldn't agree more! Wish the rest of America understood this. But alas most middle american's and southern's are too blinded by stupidity and bigotry to think smart. So they will vote for the old man and the woman who really is anti-woman!
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justDaniel1 year, 3 months ago
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You Jesus freaks really do have your head in the sand. End of the world my aching b... You morons have been predicting the end of the world for 200+ years and so far it's been a bust. Smashing a few particles is not going to end the world. We are not the center of the solar system nor are we even more than a speck in the universe. Even if it did end the world the rest of the universe wouldn't even notice.
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just seems like i need to point out that the BIBLE was written by people that thought the world was FLAT!
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Neither theory has been proved at this point so everyone should just sit back and relax. Or are the bible thumpers afraid that everything they base their religion and therefore their lives on is about to be proven to be a farce?
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how very sad that these pathetic scientist’s hv decided to quell their thirst of trying to figure out how the heaven's and earth were made at the rest of the earth's expense. They hv NO idea what the true ramifications of this test will be - good or bad - To say that nothing will happen is to say that you know who for sure will win the elections on Nov.4th. I think it is irresponsible that we ( all people around the world) are only really being advised the day b/4. So this whole time Al Qaeda was fighting us when they shld hv been fighting the scientist's of the world who are trying to destroy it! I say do a jihad on them and leave the American's alone!!!!
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Even if scientists create the first particles that make up our known universe, at the end of the day, it is consciousness and intelligence that assembled this LHC device. If you look at the complexity of the biological world as opposed to the physical universe, it only points to intelligent design to me. I doubt this device will bring as much organization and complexity of particles as when the Creator created the universe. This experiment only proves that we were made in gods image, not that he doesn't exist. Why cant science and God exist together? Can you see you oxygen and nitrogen molecules? NO, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are dimensions that we are unable to see, so how can one say that cosmic spiritual beings don't exist? Life along with consciousness is eternal, and that's because it is the will of God, because he is eternal. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, Praise Jah!
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Al_J1 year, 3 months ago
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Lol. If you're going to come from a religious viewpoint, check your source material again. It's us human beings who do "intelligent design"-- and you can see the rather messy results all around us in the state of the world today.
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BUT (it's a big one):
Creator on the other hand, according to all of His Messengers, does *loving* design. (You don't have to take my word for it; you can look it up in the Bible and other Holy Books-- or ask the Elders of what we call more "primitive" cultures.) There's a difference.
Creator doesn't create because he's so smart, or to impress us with or prove His vast intelligence. He does it because he loves it. If you don't get the difference, ask any artist or musician.
That it's not only loving, but intelligible too is a token of His mercy upon us. :-)
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Caisse1 year, 3 months ago
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I think that Brian Cox gave an excellent presentation and after they finish researching the Hicks Particle; I think another interesting experiment would be to prove or disprove The Einstein - Rosen Bridge Theory, or possibly the Lorentzian Wormhole Theory.
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I doubt that this super collider will cause global destruction, there are far too many countries involved in this project. It is human nature to be skeptical or fearful of something that is not understood; but on the other-hand, it is also human nature to be suspicious and untrusting. This makes me beleive that if this project were a global killer it would never gotten off the ground; with all the countries involved they would have had to sign a suiside pact. I just see that happening. -
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facefinder1 year, 3 months ago
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i am amazed at the potential. i am frightened by the unknown. as most humans. remember those scientists at trinity site weren't really sure if their new bomb wouldn't also end the world. in its success it just made the world more complicated. good luck!
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mykelf1 year, 3 months ago
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A scientist was doing an experiment on a live frog. He picks up the frog and then sets it down on a table and says to the frog: "Jump frog, jump" ...and the frog jumps. So he thinks to himself: "Ah, my experiment is going well."
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Then the scientist picks up the frog and takes a pair of scissors and cuts off the two front legs. He sets the frog on the table and says: "Jump frog, jump" ...but the frog just sits there. So he scratches the side of his head and thinks: "Hmmm."
Then the scientist picks up the frog again, takes the pair of scissors, and cuts off the two back legs. He sets the frog on the table and again he says: "Jump frog, jump" ...and the frog just sits there. So he scratches his head again, picks up his clip-board, and writes down the following conclusion:
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lencac1 year, 3 months ago
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Can I remind others that scientists at one time did not know weather or not detonating the first nuclear explosion in the dessert of New Mexico back in 1945 would lead to the complete destruction of the planet through a continuous chain reaction. I find it interesting that Oppenheimer and Edward Teller placed bets with each other on the outcome. Perhaps the whole thing is a result of a wager.
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fcsaraj841 year, 3 months ago
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As a physicist and a person of Islamic faith I find it odd that Christians and Atheists only hold two extreme views of existence and creation of a man. If you are a Christian you have to deny any scientific explanation for creations, and if you are a scientist you are not a Christian. Educate yourself about Islam, the only book of faith that has remained unchanged since its origination, the facts in it have never been tempered by a human hand. Islam supports and explains reasoning behind scientific discoveries that have occurred, and some that will occur in the future. Islam does not dismiss scientific claims, but rationally and logically helps you understand science and faith in parallel. Don't waste your life living in ignorance and blindness, read, learn, and open your mind.
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lencac1 year, 3 months ago
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the only book of faith that has remained unchanged since its origination, the facts in it have never been tempered by a human hand.
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Oh please spare me the religious mumbo jumbo. The fact that there is a GOD is understood by what has been made but ALL religion is a bunch man made garbage with the intent of swaying the human mind in a certain direction. It is said the truth is sharper than any double edged sword. -
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swasdiva1 year, 3 months ago
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Well, I can personally say not all Christians are so extreme. I myself am Christian, and this article's concept fascinates me. I see no conflict with my faith in God. There are plenty of other Christians, and Atheists, I assume, who are open minded enough to consider and wonder at scientific progress, we just don't waste our time posting angry, ignorant comments on every Propeller story. ~_^ Thanks for your thoughts.
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robertawilburn1 year, 3 months ago
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get real people there not trying to end the earth but figure out were it came from and in the process they just might do some good to the human race LOOK THIS IS THE DEAL----- I COULD NOT FIX MY BROKE CAR OK----- BUT ONCE I NEW WHAT IT WAS AND WERE IT CAME FROM I WAS BETTER ABLE TO UNDERSTAND IT AND THEN I WAS ABLE TO FIX IT.now my car is much better thank you.
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curlytop4231 year, 3 months ago
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Even if scientists create the first particles that make up our known universe, at the end of the day, it is consciousness and intelligence that assembled this LHC device. If you look at the complexity of the biological world as opposed to the physical universe, it only points to intelligent design to me. I doubt this device will bring as much organization and complexity of particles as when the Creator created the universe. This experiment only proves that we were made in gods image, not that he doesn't exist. Why cant science and God exist together? Can you see you oxygen and nitrogen molecules? NO, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are dimensions that we are unable to see, so how can one say that cosmic spiritual beings don't exist? Life along with consciousness is eternal, and that's because it is the will of God, because he is eternal. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, Praise Jah!
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5g5g5g5g5g1 year, 3 months ago
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This is groundbreaking discovery! Who knows what will be the benefits. Space travel at the speed of light, matter transfer through breakdown and reassembly in less than a second's time,the ability to make other planets inhabitable for life as we know it are just a few of the possibilities.I say let her rip!
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smartone34661 year, 3 months ago
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first of all this shouldn't be a religious debate ll of a sudden, because it is not going to cause the end of the world.anything created by the particle collisions can be contained by magnetic fields, and since huge elctromagnets are conected to it on the outside, theres n need to worry. Secondly why can't the universe have been created by a fusion of both the creationist and big bang theories. Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe god created the big bang. the big bang fits our theories, due to laws of physics and relativity, and other factors, but what created the big bang and all those laws and the matter that started the big bang? it had to have come from somewhere didn't it? so why can't the answer simply be it was god? plus on either side of the debate, wether pro creationist or pro big bang why can't you just be more tolerant and let sleeping dogs lie. Forcing your opinions on people isn't going to get you anywhere and will only cause trouble. Not everyone is going to agree, and not everyone has to, if the world learns that it would be a better place.
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HateKoolAid1 year, 3 months ago
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Why are all the true believers upset?? I thought they were looking forward to Armageddon. Isn't that when Jesus will perform His second coming?? "I just baked a fresh batch of cookies and poured a cold glass of milk for Jesus when he returns so stop fooling around and fire that baby up!!" Sad how everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die.
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LivinWhim1 year, 3 months ago
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Well as a believer I am mm all good with it,,,worried if worst possible scenario comes to be,, well the suffrage for those left behind will be gruesome,,the ones left behind are the unfaithful/nonbelievers. As Christians we love and care for everyone, and I have to tell you,,,,, you can believe in God who created this world ,AND appreciate the science of which we have all come to be.
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While I know we will all be fine ,,what ever the plan he knows. no worries
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rivermint1 year, 3 months ago
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I don't know how this became a religious debate. The scientists are looking for the Higgs Boson so they can figure out what gives matter mass. I
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I wish folks would simply take an educated interest in the research and leave all this other arguing out of it. This is not a debate about creationism or evolution.
The concern is that the supercollider will create a cascade of microscopic black holes and destroy the planet. Some people are concerned about it.
This is what the supercollider debate is about.
Please go and learn for yourself about supercolliders and subatomic particles so that you can form an educated opinion on this.
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HateKoolAid1 year, 3 months ago
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It's kind of hard to read the days headlines and then think ...this is all by intelligent design. Terminal illnesses, humankind committing atrocities on themselves,thrashing our own planet.....the word 'genius' does not come to mind.
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picvegita1 year, 3 months ago
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I find it interesting that humans are still fighting about how we got here. Instead of focusing on what we should do while we are giving this sliver of time or how we can make things better....
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Oh and for the whole science vs religion thing, perhaps God used science to create us???????
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anthonyelement1 year, 3 months ago
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i dont no if u thought of this but u know if u do this i could make a new universe and destroy ours which idk maybe kill us i would split atoms of our universe causeing explosin ever where and if theres any alein species im sure if we and them did live they would be pretty ****** off so think about this before u make a new universe
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Xoxoxox1 year, 3 months ago
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But let's say he IS from England, ok?...so, where's that cute accent from? I'm going to deduce his background from the evidence presented in this video:
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1. Hair -- hmm, just like John Lennon's, back in the day (note the prominent center part, and the oh-so-with-it "bangs")
2. Sense of humor, easy way with the crowd --similar to John Lennon's, and Beatles in general
3. Pronunciation of "doubles" "discover" and several other words -- suspiciously, too, similar to John Lennon's
4. His being a musician --goes without saying, here....
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realmikejones1271 year, 3 months ago
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We are in terms of civilization at a cross road between spiritual and technological enlightenment. As yin cannot exist indipendeptly without yang we must acknowledge the fact that we can only achieve harmoneous balance through trial and error. Realisticly these scientific breakthroughs and/or blunders are one and the same with our daily learning experience as well. Now is not the time to criticize those whom are obviously gifted scientifically. Neither should we bash our spiritual leaders. What we must realize is that we are all infants to the truth and reason for all things "being". In time when all life has become catalyzed and calibrated with the upcoming photon belt, we will all become enlightened. Thus eradicating ignorant criticism of things that we either fear or simply have no knowledge of.
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aquilusdomini1 year, 3 months ago
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this is such a huge waste of money and time. while there are no cures for so many diseases, these boobs are wasting valuable intelligence on an experiment that could be catastrophic. when doubts in the scientific world were presented, they should have called off the experiment, because even one doubt means there is the possibility of tremendous error. the german scientist who attempted to prevent them from turning on the machine was proof enough that this is not a safe way to go about figuring out the mysteries of the universe. if a black hole were created, they stated that it would bip out almost immediately and everything would be fine, however, there is the likely possibility that it would not bip out and could grow to a massive size and thusly devour the planet. my hope is that the atom smasher fails miserably and doesn't work at all. it would be a good example of how the world shouldn't waste their money on such needless things.
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apostah771 year, 3 months ago
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Some acting like Nimrod built this thing dang, it is 2008 and man has ruled, filled and subdued the earth as asked... Now they learned to subdue itty bitty atom particles and smash em' .... Since when was there a black hole at the center of the universe? This could be the beginning of the world since they might learn to subdue the most fundamental aspect of nature... There is no limit to what men can accomplish especially on an international level...
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dirtnap081 year, 3 months ago
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Whether this ****o destroys earth or the universe for that matter, is really trivial. I’m sure we will miss disease, famine, the vma's. The fact that they spent how many years and, billions on this thing is just stuptarted on a level that is just mind boggling. Do we really need to know how everything works? Spend this money on curing cancer, patching up the ozone, preparing for 1212 when the world is suppose to end again. Like in the year 2000
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Kdizz1 year, 3 months ago
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that guy never watched that h bomb we made back in the day. you know those islands that use to exist. I thank that if you get out side of the half life you can not bet the half life back to the photon. this is why people dont vist us from are past or future.
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realmikejones1271 year, 3 months ago
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We must let go of fear, doubt and disbelief. Regardless of what these geniousess are attempting, we the common people must evolve.
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pllnwrfr171 year, 3 months ago
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Remember when they did the Bikini Atoll experiment they said the hydrogen in the sea water would all chain-react and we'd all be toast?.....now forget it!....carry-on with the new experiment so that we can all get our gravity-repulsion vehicles and time machines!
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cwdagefor1 year, 3 months ago
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knowledge is over rated. we dont need to know everything and especially risk the existence of our race. there is more to life than knowledge. The further we dig the hole of knowledge the further we raise the bar of ignorance to the truth and point of life. Just live to live and let live. This planet and our race is here for living and exploring not for destroying and wanting more. Maybe one day we will be wiser when the whole world is older.
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sethro5hc1 year, 3 months ago
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the funny thing about all of this is one of the first things you learn in basic physics, is that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Ok so a mass of particles or whatever collided and created everything.........what started them in motion to begin with. No matter what any scientist says, SOMETHING started those particles in motion to begin with, and until science can explain that, i'm not buying it. P.S. I'm a grad student from GA TECH in ME so i'm not some uneducated kid, however this is not an area of expertise for me, I'd still like to hear an explanation of how the very first moving thing in the world STARTED MOVING OR GOT THERE TO BEGIN WITH, without going against this very basic rule. Saying something appeared and just started in motion with no outside input is the same as a scientist waving his hand and making a marble appear and roll down the hall.
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v1_061 year, 3 months ago
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LOL woooooowwww.... people actually think this thing is going to destroy the earth??!!! psshhh....but still; i absolutely hate it when people say ' your God' or 'your church' or when they ' say God is for the ignorant'. Well, i have a 145 IQ and scored 1550 on my SAT and i believe 100% in God after being an atheist for almost all my life. hmm, yea im ignorant.
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anyways Evolution is a bunch of bullsh*t. I studied Molecular and Evolutionary Genetics and SCIENCE proved in the theories we read and experiment we attempted that the evolutionary perecentage index between humans and chimps is too close for us to even come from monkeys or from any other animal for that matter. 2.) Many scientists have tried to find God through an un-biased, scientific approach and have found that THERE IS A GOD, A FORCE GREATER THAN THE UNIVERSE; i.e. Newton and Einstein. In fact, Newton devoted the last years of his career to finding God and Einstein said once that if you reach the end of the universe, you'll find God. 3.)as for the big bang THEORY? there is a law that stipulates that energy cannot be created or destroyed. well, then in order for the big bang to happen you energy 'that wasnt created' thats been floating and sitting around for millions of years that all of a sudden just decided to interact and KA_BOOOMMM; Earth just popped out of that. hmm, not buying that either. and for such a reaction to occur you need a catalyst. now where the f*ck are you gonna get a catalyst that big in EMPTY SPACE? Well, ahem...God makes sense. Religion has never been the problem, but the people who use it for themselves. Science has been disproven and contradicting more times to itself than the Bible has. Oh and there are scientists working on decoding the Bible (since it cannot be taken literally and it is cryptic) and ahhh, well, they CAN'T for as intelligent as they are. The Bible is more than a book, but if anything, proof of divine intervention on paper. Another thing; see people dont believe in miracles but believe in anomalies. LOL, if A=B and B=C , then A=C, right? then an Anomaly is the same as a Miracle and a Miracle is God's work then science basically knows that THERE is a God but refuses to acknowledge it.
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tangy20081 year, 3 months ago
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If you believe in the Propeller, then you can just imagine how many atrocious experiments are going on. Imagine being a toddler, a mere baby, and having a neural implant beamed into the back of your head. That's what happened to me and thousands of of mind control victims that were children world-wide. Our stories (some sick) are revealed at www.mindcontrolforums.com. This is a victim without any Justice. ~T
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eskimoinfloriduh1 year, 3 months ago
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alright... I truly believe in my heart the God created the universe. However we don't know how and we never will know how he caused this all to occur. God could have caused the big bang but we as humans will never be able to fully comprehend the power of God. People are curious to figure out how the Earth was made not who made it but how. It doesn't say in the bible how God made the Earth. So that is my oppinion but it's just the oppinion of a 17 year old.
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If you believe in the scientist end of the world machine, then you can just imagine how many atrocious experiments are going on. Imagine being a toddler, a mere baby, and having a neural implant beamed into the back of your head. That's what happened to me and thousands of of mind control victims that were children world-wide. Our stories (some sick) are revealed at http://www.mindcontrolforums.com
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cleare1 year, 3 months ago
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the lack of understanding of what is the purpose and promise of the lhc on this thread is shocking and alarming to me. i realize even wikipedia is controversial these days, but it may be helpful to some to look up what we are talking about, before they spout off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
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science is all about observation. the lhc will allow us to observe events never seen before by man. these observations will be circulated amongst physicists and will ultimately help answer some of our most primal questions about the origin and nature of the universe. how did the universe begin? are there more than 3 dimensions? is light particle or wave or both?
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the lack of understanding of what is the purpose and promise of the lhc on this thread is shocking and alarming to me. i realize even wikipedia is controversial these days, but it may be helpful to some to look up what we are talking about, before they spout off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
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science is all about observation. the lhc will allow us to observe events never seen before by man. these observations will be circulated amongst physicists and will ultimately help answer some of our most primal questions about the origin and nature of the universe. how did the universe begin? are there more than 3 dimensions? is light particle or wave or both?
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alligatorboy3211 year, 3 months ago
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Nothing is worth the risk of bringing the world to an end! What good is this discovery going to do us if the entire world is gone in the next year or so? I know I don't want to worry about the possibility of the world coming to an end soon. If these scientists would quit denying that God is real and that the Bible has all the answers, we wouldn't have to worry about this. God help us that this won't bring an end to the world.
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Goodby to all of you, it's been a real blast. But don't think I'm waiting for someone else to destroy the earth. Tonight at one second past midnight I'm turning on my gigantic Tesla Oscillator that I finished last weekend. I'm running out right now to the 7/11 to get some double A batteries for power. Don't wait up for me. See you on the other side!
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publicist1 year, 3 months ago
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Just so you know, I'm a university grad from California and registered Democrat. That doesn't stop me from having faith and believing in the Bible as a way of living Gods will. I believe that faith and education can coexist.
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That being said, I believe in the rapture of the church as fortold in Revelation and have been scanning news headlines for a tool that could give a scientific reason for a whole bunch of people disapearing.
Now here is where I get lazy. I have heard that people worry of this atomic smasher creating black holes on earth or worse. Has anyone heard of the machine causing a mass disapearance of people?
Now go ahead and make fun of me for my faith, but just so you know, here are my credentials.
California State University Fullerton graduate 2004
Degree in communications currently employed as a Media Relations Specialist
My clients have appeared in the Financial Times, LA Times, New York Post, La Opinion, Univision, AOL Latino, Hispanic Business, but my biggest accomplishment is giving my life to the Lord. -
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Scienctists are believing in false lies from Satan himself. What big bang? God created the Heavens and Earth. They think their intellect minds are so ingeniouly set on facts of the world. They dont believe in God Almighty, they dont believe in Jesus Christ the Son of the living God, was conceived by a virgin,that whosoever believeth in him would have ever lasting life. They dont believe that we are living in the very last days before the rapture. We are living in the final hour before Jesus Christ returns.I am telling everyone that what is going on in our world and country economy depletion was prophecied in Matthrew 24:1-22, Mark 13:3-23 and Luke 21:5-28. All on international wars, revolutions,famines,earthquakes,epidemics,strang natural disasters,unpredictable oceanic events,worldwide dissemination of the message of Jesus,persecution of christians,rampant immorality. Dont listen to these scienctists they are liers from hell. In the last days sons and daughters will Prophetic visions and men would have dreams. May your heart find truth through Gods spirit.
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swaqqbeenretro1 year, 3 months ago
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everyone seem's to forget God did create science :)
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and if not that a world simply cant be mad from and explosion.
ithought an explosion will cause everything to drift away not towards.
and arnt the planets like big magnets so if they are all the same. we would swoosh
away from eachother idk.
point being we aps or big bang idk makes no sense monkeys are only so smart
and explosions cant create such a perfect world and we are alittle to well formed dont ya think.
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Dylann1 year, 3 months ago
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ok i agree with the guys who promote this experiment because all that money into this not only can it provide probably a new power source it could do a whole crapload more. and by the way let those people who are starving starve its not our buisness to feed the hungry so **** all of the starving let them deal with their own problems and as for pollution oh well we knew that it was hapening. and also if it does end the world so ******* what if we die we die i mean we are all gonna die one day so i really dont care. and also those of you who say we pollute the air guess what you do too so dont give me any of that crap about the whole mankinds greed ****. because if you have beleifs like that than your a dumbass for hating your own kind
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sunngrl21 year, 3 months ago
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Does anyone reading all this hoopla remember anything in the bible stating that god would end this world and if so where? I remember reading that man would end the world as we know it by believing in the antichrist ruler out of Europe and the rapture will take those who are saved in the real spirit of Christ. I don't know if this large LHC will contribute to the end of our world or not but I do know that the people playing god are blasphemists and bound to the lake of fire or better known as hell.
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wanabwild1 year, 3 months ago
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Allright, I just seen the video, and I see a brilliant dumbass. This character goes on and on to say how the earth evolved from an explosion. He basically said that god doesn't exist! He talks about the composition of cells and their origin. But what he doesn't talk about, is all the containment of energy, that's going to be going on in that machine. The universre is constantly flowing. It doesn't crash into itself. These guys are so worried about ,if they can do it, but why are they doing it. He never says!
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"IT WAS THE BEST OF TIMES, IT WAS THE WORST OF TIMES; IT WAS THE AGE OF WISDOM, IT WAS THE AGE OF FOOLISHNESS; IT WAS THE EPOCH OF BELIEF, IT WAS THE EPOCH OF INCREDULITY; IT WAS THE SPRING OF HOPE, IT WAS THE WINTER OF DESPAIR' - Charles Dickens
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tangy20081 year, 3 months ago
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If that's believable then so is https://www.mindcontrolforums.com
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tangy20081 year, 3 months ago
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If one can Believe the new machine, then one can believe in mind control. The correct website is http://www.mindcontrolforums.com
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Well, my beloved forum posters, from all your stimulating diatri--, I mean, discussions ....about science, about religion, and about the illustrious Professor Brian Cox of the UK's Manchester University (or, was that just me discussing him? anyway....),
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I have at this time arrived at resounding resolutions about the true purpose of my life (c'mon, help me out from the other side with this, Don L.!!.....):
"In a world....
where one Large Hadron Collider
may hold the key
to the secrets of
life
and death
on the planet Earth (Earth, Earth, Earth.....)
One man….
and one man alone
holds the key
the destiny of
a-woman-who-blew-an-entire-business-day-posting-si...
Professor (bang! bang!)
Brian (…long tire screech).
Cox (“No, don’t open that door…aaaahhh!!…”)
Yes, you’ve helped me formulate a plan for my destiny:
1. I will become the next Obama Girl, however, I will be known as, The Brian Cox Girl (not just “the Cox Girl,” cause they already call me that….). and in the ensuing weeks and months to come, I will pelt the internet with “Brian Cox” written across my scantily clad tush!
2. Then, with this undeniable evidence of true devotion and love, I will don my most slu--, I mean, flattering red dress, load my car with gas and champagne, and make a fateful drive to beautiful Monterey, on the California coastline, to
3. have a one night-- I mean, to have a brief, yet compelling courtship with the illustrious Professor Brian Cox of the UK's Manchester University.
4. Then, we will marry, and then
5. I will have a litter of children, all possessing high IQ’s, and a Davie-Jones--Hey-,-Hey-,-We’re-the-Monkeys- Kind-of-Cuteness that will defy all credulity
Yes, thank you chatroom people, thank you Fedquip for making this all possible,
…and thank you Great Universe, for finally bringing me to the threshold of my true destiny (-ny, -ny, -ny).
Well, wish me rots of ruck guys, ‘cause I’ll need it!
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Mutainia1 year, 3 months ago
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I was listening to Coast to Coast last night, and learned that NO one really knows what this thing will do. There is good evidence that this thing will do nothing. Then, again, there is also evidence it WILL produce black holes. But, the little black holes it might actually create are supposed to vanish due to "Hawking Radiation". That they will "evaporate" into nothing IF Steven Hawking made it to the top without people feeling sorry for him and saying, "Gee, you are RIGHT, you poor wheelchair bound guy, you. Things CAN escape a black hole AFTER all!" (Anyone study Hawking Radiation? It doesn't sound like black holes disappear, after all).
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By the way, I've read that the solar energy smashing into our atmosphere DOESN'T create black holes, and that Cern will be creating something quite more powerful and unique. That it might create something far more frightening and dramatic than little black holes. But, then again, no one really knows, so, take your pick. Wouldn't it be bizarre if, in trying to find out how we came into being, we just learn how we're going to go out and it CAUSES us to go out? The Tower of Babel was built to meet God face to face, THIS is being built to see if there is a "God particle". The Tower of Babel resulted in the confounding of the languages, and, possibly, the rapid splitting up of the earth plates breaking off South America from Africa. Well, I'm not worried. I believe in God, and, believe that God is stronger than any gravitation tug created by the most massive of black holes. IF the earth starts getting eaten up by little black holes that this thing creates, I'll know that God has a funny sense of humor for sure, and was joking in His prophecy.-
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Mutainia11 months ago
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Oh, I heard recently that these little black holes will servive MUCH longer, that the calculations were very off. They will servive over a second, enough time to grab an atom or two, to keep them from evaporating, and, to help them grow stronger.
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Dylann1 year, 3 months ago
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do you guys even think what this can do for mankind think if we can understand dark matter than we can probably make more advanced technologies besides they are using a particle accelerator to do the experiment.but i either think these 3 things will happen.the earth will be destroyed.we have another big bang or something close to which will destroy earth in the process but create another universe.we will be able to make more technologies that are advanced.
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livearticlestoday21 year, 2 months ago
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Thanks your share
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johnsmth_smith156 months, 2 weeks ago
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Opponents of the large hadron collider are afraid its ability to smash atoms at such high speeds that it will generate temperatures of one trillion degrees centigrade will create a mini-black hole that could “tear the earth apart” How could a "mini" black hole be stable and self-sustaining?For a black hole to exist do you not need to accept credit card or the mass of a large star to provide enough gravity to collapse normal matter into a singularity?
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How could colliding a few sub-atomic hadrons provide enough gravity to spontaneously degenerate the entire mass of the Earth?
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