Judge warned Palin in 2005 to back off brother-in-law's job »
Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 3 months ago in NewsAn Alaska judge warned Gov. Sarah Palin's family against trying to get her then-brother-in-law fired, according to court records. That warning came long before the controversy over her dismissal of the brother-in-law's boss, the state's public safety commissioner, records show.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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TonyByron1 year, 3 months ago
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"Why isn't this spread all over the MSM?"
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Where have you been n2n? Surely you just crawled from a cave. This story has been on nytimes, wapo, latimes, nbc, msnbc, and yes, even fox.
Unlike the MSM's deliberate avoidance for months of Wright and others regarding Obama, they were and still are full tilt on Palin immediately after she was announced.
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Klarissa1 year, 3 months ago
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At the time, Palin was a private citizen and would not become governor until 2006. In complaints filed with the state police, she and other relatives had accused Wooten of threatening her family during the divorce.
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Suddock was in the process of settling the couple's property and child-support arrangements in the 2005 hearing. The judge said his decision might have been different had Wooten's continued employment with the state police been more certain.
Wooten was suspended for five days in March 2006, after state police commanders determined he had used a Taser on his 10-year-old stepson "in a training capacity," drove his patrol car while drinking beer and illegally shot a moose using his wife's hunting permit.
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KISA452a1 year, 3 months ago
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Did you read this article? Apparently the main focus of the judge was getting money...
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"the judge hearing the couple's case said McCann's family appeared to be putting Wooten's job at risk at a time when he would be required to pay child support.... "Aesop told us not to slay the goose that lays the golden egg. For whatever reason, people are trying to slay the goose here, and it tends to diminish his earning capacity."
"At the time, Palin was a private citizen and would not become governor until 2006. In complaints filed with the state police, she and other relatives had accused Wooten of threatening her family during the divorce"
"he had used a Taser on his 10-year-old stepson "in a training capacity," drove his patrol car while drinking beer and illegally shot a moose using his wife's hunting permit."
Yeah, how DARE they say something bad about him? Sounds like the judge is a psycho. BTW: I've heard this all over the place... Just try to keep up :D-
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StevieGee1 year, 3 months ago
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Any man who refuses to support his children is a piece of crap. I don't know why a judge would intervene in something like this unless Sarah's sister was receiving public assistance or something like that. I would rather live with wolves than be Sarah Palin's bro in law except that she would shoot me from a gulfstream jet.
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Hobe1 year, 3 months ago
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Palin acted on behave one of Palin's family members going through a divorce.... this is immoral and illegal....
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Palin is a Hart Beat away from mcCain a 72 year old corrupt senator ala being a member of the Keating five savings and loan fraud that cost Hard working American Taxpayers Billions of wasted Dollars.....
Palin, if she gets her way will attempt to rescind a Woman's Right To Choose on the abortion issue even if Incest and/or Rape is involved..
We have come too Far for this Nut to set back Women 20 years as a Right to decide the correct decision Only the Woman can and should make..
McCain has a very Bad temper, may be in need of some serious Mental health examination and a very Poor decision maker choosing Palin when their are many well qualified VP candidates..
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TonyByron1 year, 3 months ago
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What a silly, misleading headline and story. The judge warned Palin's family, not Sarah (as the headline implies), and the supposed logic of the judge? We shouldn't fire this dangerous trooper who tasered his own 10 year-old stepson and threatened to kill his wife's father if he provided a divorce attorney for his daughter. Because Wooten might have trouble paying child support. Fick child support, the greater good is getting that gun, badge and authority from such an unstable bully.
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Here are some PDF's of complaints, charges and punishments involving Wooten and various families and his superiors.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread386471/p...
I would list the PDF's seperately but the propeller monster seems to not like more than one at a time. ;)-
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KISA452a1 year, 3 months ago
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You have to realize, the Palin haters wish this guy had killed Palin's father and preferably her and preferably by an attempted exorcism. Tazing a 10 year old? He's related in some way to the devil, I mean Palin, so that is GOOD.
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I am AMAZED at how much hatred and venom has been thrown at her so fast... It is psychotic. -
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ind061 year, 3 months ago
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"the judge warned Palin's family, not Sarah (as the headline implies),"
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Is Sarah Palin not a member of the Palin family?
As for the charges against Wooten, it was a messy divorce / custody battle and fourteen charhges were leveled against Wootewn by the Palin family, FIVE of the charges were found to be "actionable", meaning, there was some proof they were actually true. The result being that Trooper Wooten was suspended for ten days, reduced to five after a union complaint.
We all know the kind of lies and outrageous misrepresentations that fly when a custody battle gets nasty. To simply accept as gospel any single "charge" the Palin's brought against Wooten is disingenuous. Particularly, IMHO, the tasering of his ten year old son. I can only assume that that would be a crime, if the ten year old in question wasn't coming at his father with a knife, which I also assume did not happen. If there was any proof to be found to THAT charge, Wooten would have been arrested and not suspended.
This is not about throwing hatred and venom at Sarah Palin. This is about getting at the truth of a complicated set of facts. Crying out that Trooper Wooten "deserved" to have the governor of the State he lived and worked in on a witch hunt for his head presumes a perfect knowledge of which of the five out of fourteen charges had any merit.
Beyond that, Wooten wasn't fired, his boss Walt Monegan was, for saying that Wooten's punishment had been handed down and he was not going to put himself up for charges of improper behavior by not living with said punishment.
Governors are governors, not dictators who get to turn the power of their office to attack those they do not personally care for. We call that abuse of power and we rely on our elected officials to NEVER do this, even to those they dislike, so that we can all feel safe from personal vendettas from on high.
Her behavior is not understandable. She is certainly not the first governor to come into office hating a person or two. Governors before her and after her will face this same moral quandry. Live by the rule of law or attempt to make their own personal feelings paramount. We are all served by those elected officials who do not see themselves as above the rule of judgment already handed down. We are all endangered by public officials who would act on personal feelings to ruin the lives of those they dislike.
Her behavior is reprehensible at best, criminal at worst and no one should excuse it, no matter what they think of Trooper Wooten or Sarah Palin.
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miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
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In article after article from many different sources one theme keeps repeating itself. Everyone is afraid of Palin. That is not the kind of government we have had in this country. This is not the kind of government we are supposed to have in this country.
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SAAB76991 year, 3 months ago
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I guess it would be irrational to be afraid of a PRESIDENTIAL candidate who
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has ties(past and present) to a radical terrorist who's organization blew-up
several government buildings in the past ,is unrepentant,and wishes he had done more(in an interview made public Sept 10,2001)
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limosis1 year, 3 months ago
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She was not Govenor then, and that is family stuff- who knows what that guy was like, he may have been a real jerk, this should not even be an issue
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Everyone is making reference to her being a heart beat away from the Presidency, but McCain is not the President yet, nor Obama -- besides as Lyndon Johnson said, the Vice Presidency is worth as much a warm pitcher of spit... but I suppose that bit him in the arse didn't it?
the point is, if she does become the VP, does she have the cohones to stand up to the oil boys again? She did it as Govenor, but can she as VP?-
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StevieGee1 year, 3 months ago
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Stand up to the oil boys again? She supports drilling in the Alaskan wildlife refuge, In the gulf, the coast of California, and anywhere else they want. She supports cutting the oil companies taxes. She supports relaxing environmental restrictions for them. She opposes any regulation of them. All she did was squeeze them for a little payola. That isn't standing up to anyone.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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This is a question of judgment, as well as illegal and immoral abuse of power.
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What kind of person would try to make a known fire-arms expert and a supposed lunatic get fired from his job? Hmm, not asking for trouble there eh. Also, what kind of person would try to eliminate the funding source that is paying for one`s children or niece/nephew? What kind of person would do both of the above?
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60nhappy1 year, 3 months ago
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There is little question that Palin appears to be an out of control, guntoting, shotgun marriage participant( Both for herself and her daughter ), who is being embraced by all the other uneducated or under educated caucasian women who resent the fact that the world no longer dances to their tunes. Did anyone see the other story on AOL that shows footage of Mc Cain's release from the POW Camp. He has no crutch and seems to be perfectly fine except for a limp. Why is the only image we are forever seeing the one with him leaning on a crutch looking like he's risen from his death bed. How come his war records are sealed. Is it possible that his much ballyhooed and self proclaimed hero status is the same figment of the imagination as the recession and loss of jobs are purported to be by all of us whiners??
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Klarissa1 year, 3 months ago
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And this is someone you are proud of??
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It was also discovered that, while at Syracuse Law School, Biden had plagiarized a law review article in a class paper he wrote.
Biden said the act was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and Biden was permitted to retake the course after receiving a grade of F in the course.
Biden also released at the same time the record of his grades as an undergraduate which were C's and D's and an F in ROTC during his first three semesters.
Further, when questioned by a New Hampshire resident about his grades in law school Biden had claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class, (when he actually graduated 76th in a class of 85 .
1988
Democratic presidential candidate Joseph R. Biden Jr., a U.S. senator from Delaware, was driven from the nomination battle after delivering, without attribution, passages from a speech by British Labor party leader Neil Kinnock. A barrage of subsidiary revelations by the press also contributed to Biden's withdrawal: a serious plagiarism incident involving Biden during his law school years; the senator's boastful exaggerations of his academic record at a New Hampshire campaign event; and the discovery of other quotations in Biden's speeches pilfered from past Democratic politicians.
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lloydm651 year, 3 months ago
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Lets mull this thing over a bit.I have a grand son who is a Dallas policeman, he carries a service revolver, a baton,and is trained to use a taser.He also has a boy at home,who just so happens to be my great grandson,and if he used any of those weapons on him drunk or sober,the best part of his remaining life would be the protection of prison bars.You low life piecies of dog crap,make me puke.What kind of problem did his stepson pose to deserve the same treament a hardened criminal resisting arrest would recieve,and which one of you creeps said to be tasered was really nothing.This is the reason I could never vote for a democrat,a damn democrat
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ind061 year, 3 months ago
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Let's mull things over just a little bit more.
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You said your grandson, a Dallas policeman, would be in jail if he tasered his son.
I agree.
Yet, Trooper Wooten is not in jail.
Why then, is Trooper Wooten not in jail?
Well, Wooten was involved in a messy custody trial at the time this particular charge was leveled against him. By who? By the police? No, it was one of 14 charges brought by the Palin family.
Even if you have no personal experience of messy divorces and unfriendly custody battles I'm sure you can grasp the concept that both sides exaggerate the bad qualities of the other. Why, indeed, people have been know to outright lie.
FIVE of the fourteen charges were determined "supportable", meaning, there was enough evidence to indicate action could be taken. And because of those five charges Wooten was suspended for ten days, later reduced to five. Punishment handed down and served.
Why wasn't Wooten arrested? Well, the answer would seem to be that "tasering his ten year old son" was NOT one of the charges found supportable. In other words, the kid didn't show bruising marks and wouldn't testify that it had been done. So, case closed. Right?
Wrong.
Because people all across the country have decided that because Sarah Palin made an unsupported charge against her Republican ex-brother in law that he tasered his child, then went on after being elected governor to hound the man because SHE didn't think the punishment he received was strong enough and has since obstructed a Legislative inquiry (by the Republican controlled Alaskan Legislature) which, at first, she was all for, but THAT was before she was running for vice president which made the Oct. 31st end date of the Legislature's inquiry just a bit too soon somehow means "democrats are bad".
Please explain your logic. Or don't.
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rrobin61281 year, 3 months ago
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This is such a bunch of crap. They were talking to a reporter just last night about this and it was said the trooper was released because he had tazered a 10 year old. It was then brought up on other charges by a trooper and 2 democrats who have been known to be against Palin on several issues. Go figure!
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ind061 year, 3 months ago
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It no longer matters what you or I or the governor thinks. Do you think Wooten's punishment was not enough? Do I? Well, tough. The law has spoken and as a nation of laws and the rule of law we are not allowed to form a posse and "see that justice is done" to our personal liking. Neither is an elected official, any elected official, allowed to do so.
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As I said, incidents are often exaggerated in divorce trials:
FTA: Wooten was found to have violated Dept. policy in using a taser on his then 11-year-old stepson in 2003. He told investigators that he did so "in a training capacity" after the child had asked to be tasered in order to show his cousin, Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol, that he "wasn't a mama's boy". In a statement to police the boy said "that he wanted to be tased to show that he's not a mommy's boy in front of Bristol". In a September 2008 interview Wooten claimed he attached clips to the child rather than firing darts from a gun then set the taser to the "test" mode, meaning it was on low power. He turned the power on for less than a second and that afterwards his stepson "thought it was great and wanted to do it all over again" He claimed that "everyone laughed about" the incident at the time and the boy went immediately upstairs to tell his mother he was fine. According to a spokesman for Taser International "if the Taser is on for just a second it would feel like your funny bone is hit".
Although the taser incident happened in 2003, it was not reported to the police until April, 2005, the day Wooten's wife filed for divorce. Sgt. Ron Wood asked Sarah Palin's daughter, Bristol, why they "waited so long and brought the incident up after two years." Bristol said "Because of the divorce."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Public_Safety_...
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lloydm651 year, 3 months ago
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ind06 I didn't say the trooper should be in prison, that's not my decision, I said if my grandson had pulled a stupid asinine thing like that,he would be safer behind bars.I don't play games where my kids are concerned.Thank god this nut case had the presence of mind not pull service revolver.Sounds like he might have a rage problem
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ind061 year, 3 months ago
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I agree lloydm65, even though the incident was not what the charge says it was I would certainly regard it as poor, EXTREMELY poor judgment. I still do not believe that that gives the governor the right to hound the man. She simply foes NOT have the right to do this, nor does ANY elected official.
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Ajtlawyer1 year, 3 months ago
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It's a complete non-issue. I'm an attorney and have done probably 1000 divorce cases. The story itself is misleading. In a divorce case the judge has no authority to tell the extended family members of the litigants what to do or what not to do. In this particular case the judge was suggestin that it might not be the best idea for the Palin clan to try and get the state trooper fired since if he lost his job it would be difficult to pay child support, alimony, pay bills, etc. That's all the judge was referring to and in any event he could not order the extended family to do anything.
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This is a state trooper who, by the way, had been cited many times for misconduct, not by the Palins but by his superiors---he drank on the job, shot big game while on the job, had even used a taser gun on his small stepson. My question isn't whether or not Palin tried to get him fired, my question is, why wasn't he fired anyway? If he hadn't lost his job and was still working despite all of that misconduct the Dem claim would've been that Palin had used her influence to protect her brother-in-law who was a rogue, incompetent police officer. In the end, the Dems and MSM are ignoring what the trooper did, his years of misconduct which merited firing under any circumstances. This is not a man who deserved his job, regardless of whom he was married to or the in-law of. Had he pulled that b.s. in the county where I live, he would've been fired within a month.-
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ind061 year, 3 months ago
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One last time. The troopergate scandal is not about Mike Wooten and his behavior and whether or not he deserved to be fired. The troopergate scandal is about Walt Monegan, who insisted, rightly, that Wooten had already been punished by Col. Julia Grimer, head of the Alaska State Troppers, who not only suspended Wooten but told him any more trouble of the nature of his previous problems would result in his being fired. As Wooten, now two years on and still working, has not been fired it can only be assumed that he cleaned up his act.
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It was Monegan who was put under pressure to fire Wooten despite the ruling of the Col., it was Monegan who claims he was fired for not doing so. This is "troopergate".
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treebeard4311 year, 3 months ago
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The *NYTimes* of all papers, the biggest acolyte to Husseinmania of them all posts the results of a poll saying that 4 out of 5 Americans believe the MSM is in the bag for Ol'bama Hussein, and wouldn't you know, those few 1 out of 5's all gravitated to this thread to moan about how poor lil' Hussein is getting bad press, and the MSM is sucking up to the Republican party.
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If only it were so!!. Get your heads back out in the sunlight, people! This pretender has gotten where he is with practically no experience in politics solely due to the fawning attitude from the MSM. All I need say is the name of Chris Matthews, a "reporter" who gets so overcome with emotion that he gets tingles down his legs when his papa Hussein walks onto a stage. He probably wets his panties, too, but I won't be checking that out. If someone were to say what he did about a Republican pol, they'd be laughed out of their job and you all know it. Morons..I've had my say, I'm ignoring this thread. I only pray that you're all disafffected ex-felons with no voting privileges, because grasping the subtleties of news coverage seems to be above your pay grade, and people like you have no business trying to vote!-
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sussieq1 year, 3 months ago
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WOW!!! what a rational comment!!.. But there is nothing new about it... when people do not have anything to say.. they just offend ...that is easy.. you do not have to be smart at all !!...what a waste..somebody so limited having a computer ...when so many smart kids around the world can not have one....
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purpleicon1 year, 3 months ago
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Oh, and there aren't hateful , pyschotic comments being made about Barack Obama ? You right wingers are screwed by the Republicans who favor the rich, just like the rest of us., and you just keep going back for more. You are the morons.
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