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Posted By omerazam 1 year, 3 months ago in News

When Pandora's Box is fully opened on the deceptions and abuses of power by the Cheney/Bush administration ~ the 9/11 conspiracy and cover up will stand alone as the most treasonous act in American history and here are 40 experts backing up that claim

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    HannibalBarca1 year, 3 months ago

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    Nope;will just be another white wash like the "Warren Commission"

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      Nowalive1 year, 3 months ago

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      HB

      What do you think about the Warren Commission's cabana boy Spectre?

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        Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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        just doing what he was told to do... hey if you can kill the President and get away with it.. a Senator would be NO PROBLEM..

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      looter1 year, 3 months ago

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      I think Bush/Cheney knew about the attacks on 9/11 before it happened. Look how much money they made because of that one event. It gave unprecedented powers and they were able to get a foothold in Iraq with the second largest oil reserves. Even if Bush/Cheney goes out of power for years it will yield them millions. See Cheney don't wanted to try for the office. Why? He already got what he wanted. hehe...
      Let me say it once more. The Bush administration had prior knowledge about what is going to happen on 9/11. They didn't do anything, because they were knowing what they can gain from it. Maybe when Obama gets into White House he will be able to shed some light on this issue. Or will he become yet another politician?
      Lets wait and see.

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        slate1 year, 3 months ago

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        Yeah, they chose the heart of the economy to do this?

        They would have been just as 'served' to get the deal done and the support to make money if they would have attacked a tall building or two in LA.

        Let's see, no, let's destroy the economy and the stock exchange's most valuable assets, the Twin towers and the pentagon, which is in cahoots with them?

        Logic was never a liberal strong suit.

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          looter1 year, 3 months ago

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          Logic never gone anywhere near a conservative. If so they would've been Liberal. Look here buddy what I told is the truth. It can be kept hidden but never erased and one day it will see daylight. Pray that you will live to see that day.

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            slate1 year, 3 months ago

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            PSST I've never seen you before, you aren't my 'buddy'.

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              Bruedaddy1 year, 3 months ago

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              who wants to be?

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            Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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            you attack LIBERALS.. but offer nothing but conjecture to refute anything .. ..

            LOGIC TELLS ME YOU HAVE NO ANSWERS... NO CLUE..

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              slate1 year, 3 months ago

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              Will can you not see how illogical it would be to make a plan like this and attack the Pentagon and WTC?

              You can't refute false claims they refute themselves.

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                Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                again... where you see it illogical.. if one does not give a hoot about the American people.. and I believe this administration DOES NOT...

                and it becomes about enriching yourself and like minded people..

                IT BECOMES ENTIRELY PLAUSABLE...

                again you only offer your own opinion.. and you know what they say about those..

                if the administration had not drug it's feet on investigating the laid ground rules on the investigation and withheld evidence they deemed classified... that leaves a scent this ole dog would like to track..

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                  Xaos1 year, 3 months ago

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                  I would say it was just as illogical as a 1930's German political party being involved in the burning of the German Reichstag. The Enabling Act which was passed in Germany after this event bore many similarities to our Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act. Kinda ironic isn't it.

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                    AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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                    Xaos ~
                    That's quite a coincidence! I wrote a letter to my Senator over the Patriot Act and told him that I knew he would understand when I said that I felt like the Reichtag was burning!
                    I really did! Sadly, he didn't see it my way and voted for it anyway.

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              AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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              When Project for a New American Century says America really
              needs a new Pearl Harbor - and I STILL do not understand the
              type of damage at the Pentagon - nor have I seen any evidence
              of the plane .......................I have to wonder.
              Why would the FBI RAPIDLY confiscate the security video from
              The Sheraton National Hotel - the Citgo station and the Dept. of
              Transportaion after the Pentagon event? Have those very same
              security cams been filming that area for years - yeah. So what's
              the secret.....................a plane? Or maybe NOT a plane, more likely.
              Why was I shown video ON Sept. 11th of Gaza residents distributing
              candy and dancing for joy but NEVER even told about the suspected
              Mossad agents high-fiving and joyously filming the towers' demise -
              right here? Well lots of people did - but certainly NOT on the news.
              The whole thing REEKS - but even "respected" legislators are loathe
              to question anything. We are NOT wingnuts - we are curious about
              issues that have never been addressed. I think it is awful.

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            riverdog1 year, 3 months ago

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            Which conspiracy seems more believable? 911 commission or controlled demo? Hopefully the truthers will continue to push this in the next administration. If the new 'cons' get into office by distracting the electorate, there will be another 4 years to sweep this dirt further under the rug.

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              bobo-in-texas1 year, 3 months ago

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              The "Truthers" are minted of the same coin as the Worldwide Zionist Conspiracy and Trilateral Commission fetishists.

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                Shadowolf1 year, 3 months ago

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                ...one thing I gotta say for ya, Boob; you are consistent...always wrong...you gotta be digital because even a stopped analog clock is right twice a day... you are just another Mammonite pretending to be a Christian spouting hate, lies, spin and venom...

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                  Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                  it's also VERY STRANGE.. bobo.. hasn't posted a comment in OVER A MONTH...

                  put up a story regarding 911 he's right there....

                  next we'll be getting a visit from Torrent29....

                  they call EVERYONE who has any questions a TRUTHER.. well I do want to know the WHOLE TRUTH.. and anyone who doesn't might as well live in Russia or China.. where they tell you THEIR TRUTH...

                  that being said.. I WANT TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT.. these people WORK FOR US... it's time we reminded them of that little fact..

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                    Nowalive1 year, 3 months ago

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                    Will,

                    If the whole thing finally does come out, and it does turn out to be the largest of a series of attacks by terrorists, going back to the '80s, will "truthers" believe it? No.

                    I say no because every bad thing that happens in the world is attributed to America's government.

                    Hurricanes, floods, droughts, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, plagues, famine are all caused by America generally, and her government specifically according to the "truthers".

                    Additionally if you want transparency in government, you need to read over my web sites.

                    Vote Hamilton in 2012
                    Common sense, is genius dressed in it's working clothes.

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                      Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                      please don't get me wrong.. I saw the planes hit.. I BELIEVE that they were piloted by 19 arab "terrorists"... I do NOT BELIEVE the twin towers were brought down by controlled demolition.. tower 7 "maybe"..

                      what would I like to see..

                      a photo of the GAPING HOLE in tower 7..

                      real video of the plane hitting the Pentagon.. which has to be one of the most survieled buildings in the world..

                      I'm more in search of the question ...

                      WHAT DID ANYONE KNOW .. WHEN DID THEY KNOW IT.. AND WHY COULD NOT ALL THE PIECES HAVE BEEN PUT TOGETHER TO PREVENT .....

                      answer that question.. and you can prevent future attacks.... I know.. I know.. there haven't been any since....

                      my theory on that.... and it isn't popular.. is that anyone who is going to do harm is most likely here already... and they realize the attacks of 911.. were like spitting in Mike Tysons face.. they are simply scared sh*ttless of possible repercussions on friends and family left behind... .. many of us are armed and would have no sense of humor if another 911 happened and it was proven that they LIVED AMONGST US..

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                        Nowalive1 year, 3 months ago

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                        You are right. Read Stratfor. You will be amazed at how many plots have been thwarted since 9/11. America, until 9/11 has historically been reactive, not proactive. Pearl harbor anyone?

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                          Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                          Clinton stopped sever also..

                          one got thru...

                          trying to DEFEAT terrorists is like playing WHACK A MOLE..

                          hell by definition those two snipers in the DC area were terrorists.. an WHO KNOWS how long they could have continued if THEY hadn't tried to extort money..

                          a smart terrorist with just a handfull of like mined people could bring the nation to it's knees with only high powered rifles.. 30 people shooting 1-2 a week in major cities would incite a panic and have everyone holed up inside..

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                      AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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                      Hip-hip, Will1313 ~
                      They act as if we WANT to distrust our government. I guess they just do not understand. I am p*ssed because I have been given reason to be wary of their "explanations".

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                      bobo-in-texas1 year, 3 months ago

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                      Shadow

                      "hate, lies, spin and venom..." I suggest that you go look in the mirror for those items.

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                        Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                        crawl back under your rock.. . don't like the truth.. don't play..

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                          Shadowolf1 year, 3 months ago

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                          ...the standard NeoConArtist ploy of accusing others of your own foul tactics...typical hate filled little Bushbitch,ain'tya??? You've proven time and again you have no regard or patience for truth or facts... the prepuked poison pablum Mama Rove urpos down your throat is all you want and need...or will tolerate...

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                            Shadowolf1 year, 3 months ago

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                            ...I used to think you are at the mental equivalency of a teenager...I was wrong...you are not smarter than a 5th grader...you are so full of crap, that every time you open your mouth a toilet somewhere flushes itself spontaneously out of sheer sympathy...

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                          rightfromwrong1 year, 3 months ago

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                          Yo BOBO YOYO - U must be one of those with their head in the sand. Or you maybe still think that RFK & JFK were killed by the same bullet

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                          4thchance1 year, 3 months ago

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                          This is plain stupid...if the government was actually behind the 9/11 attacks, don't ya think it would have taken at least a few years to get the attack all prepared. (many years that date far back to President Clinton's turn in office, Bush was only in office a few months before the attacks took place) Don't ya think there would be dozens and dozens of government people who would have known about the plan. Don't ya think if there were dozens of people involved or dozens knew about it, then many of those government people would be Democrat Bush haters. Don't you think those Bush haters would have spilled the beans on the Bush administration. There's simply no logic to it, anyone who does beleive the government was behind it are simply out of their minds... If you think about it, It's really more likely that the Clinton administration would have been behind it. The entire thing was all planned while Clinton was in office.

                          Hey, how about this thought. The attacks were actually a CLINTON conspiracy and they blamed it on Bush.

                          9/11 was an inside job, all set up by President CLINTON!!!! It's actually more likely that Clinton was behind it, because he was in office while all of it was planned!

                          OR how about this idea...CRAZED MUSLIMS did it. Gee, could that be possible!?

                          You Left wing morons...

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                            djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago

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                            OR how about this idea...CRAZED MUSLIMS did it. Gee

                            When you say it like "CRAZED MULSIMS" it reminds me of the human wave attacks Iran pulled on Raygun's ally Sadaam Hussein back in the 80's . Now that was crazed. I think the men who pulled off 9-11 were more like a dedicated, skilled and motivated enemy.

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                            DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 3 months ago

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                            ''"Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States.''

                            you forgot the 'possibly using aircraft' part

                            I'm with you-I think maybe it was allowed to happen

                            I was VERY offended when I heard Condi say 'I don't recall' when asked if she remembered reading that memo

                            a) it was her f***ing JOB to read it

                            b) if she did read it, how many memos say that? wouldn't it kinda stand out, considering Clarke called OBL America's principle threat? wouldn't she recall it?

                            same goes for her as for Bush Inc as concerns bad intel on Iraq

                            incompetent or liars

                            name yer poison

                            [and yes I suppose they could be both]

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                              djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago

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                              While I agree the 911 commission was hamstrung from the begining I simple can't believe the controlled demolition therory either. I don't believe the Bush administration planned or carried out the attacked either. However I think there is credible evidence that they deliberately ignored the warnings that a terrorist attack was imminent and they planned to use the attacks to project American military power into the ME via an Iraq invasion. In other words they were expecting truck bombs not planes as missiles.

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                                Nowalive1 year, 3 months ago

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                                Interesting theory. If you follow that logic then the previous administrations ( 41 and Clinton) had to have known about this as well because of the first WTC attack.

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                                  djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago

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                                  I don't think President Clinton or Bush 41 ever recieved a PDB titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States.

                                  Not saying the either one doesn't share some responsibility, along with the Republican Congress (that was fascinated with the adventures of the presidental penis instead of focusing on the threat of international terrorism).

                                  Clinton should have attacked bin Laden in Afghanistan soon after the USS Cole was attacked. 41 should have told Saddam that we would defent Kuwait as if we had a mutual defense pact with them to stop his aggression before it started.

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                                    Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                    yep... passed it all along to Bush who IGNORED IT..

                                    hell Condi.. NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR.. wouldn't talk directly to Richard Clarke...

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                                      Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                      what everyone is ASSUMING is that ANY administration is actually in control of such matters.. probably not.. day to day stuff withing GUIDELINES yes.. important stuff , like stimulus for a PLANNED WAR.. NO..

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                                        AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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                                        I remember Condi saying there was no reason for them to
                                        consider planes being used as weapons!
                                        Outrageous! It was discussed when we were planning security for the Atlanta Olympics. That was during the Clinton
                                        administration - but when a President leaves office, do the intelligence agencies shred all the prior intelligence?
                                        I don't think so.
                                        If it weren't so tragic, you'd want to ask ,"How much are we paying these people??" But you guys believed her when she sat on the Sunday shows and warned of an imminent threat of a mushroom shaped cloud from Iraq!

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                                        rightfromwrong1 year, 3 months ago

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                                        The administration knew about the attack....they just went along with it.
                                        why do you think there was no security in the buildings the weekend before? Why were they doing wiring during that weekend?Why was the debris not analyzed after? Why were there explosions below the ground? Who had the personel to implement it? JUST MAYBE THE PENTAGON

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                                          slate1 year, 3 months ago

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                                          Clinton did know about it that's why they wrote a report about the possibility of it happening.

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                                      Mutainia1 year, 3 months ago

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                                      I think Muslims wanted to get to a slothful brothel in the sky, read Quran 9:1-5 and Quran 9:29, and, the rest is history.

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                                        decibelintent1 year, 3 months ago

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                                        Sadly, I think we'll never fully know.

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                                          rightfromwrong1 year, 3 months ago

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                                          you know nothing Danel....you should be over there in Iraq fighting if you believe in all this crap that the Administration keeps telling you

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                                            DaneL1 year, 3 months ago

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                                            rightfromwrong
                                            And tell me about your expertise in the collapse of building or even their constuction. What about the molecular change of steel when it is heated or maybe a basic seismic force-resisting system. I thought not you parroting fool.

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                                              DaneL1 year, 3 months ago

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                                              bobo
                                              Your right, I just get so tired of this CRAP. People putting out things that are just totally false and the fools that jump to believe it. God help us.

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                                            DaneL1 year, 3 months ago

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                                            Any person with an IQ over 40 already knows 911 was no inside job.

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                                              bobo-in-texas1 year, 3 months ago

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                                              Lay off DaneL. He knows what he's talking about. He's an honors grad from the Rosie O'Donnell School of Engineering.

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                                                DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                ''People putting out things that are just totally false and the fools that jump to believe it.''

                                                I agree

                                                like yellow cake with WMD frosting, like Saddam has a chemical weapons factory under his palace, like Gen Powell reading a UK college kid's thesis in his pre-war 'The Case Against Iraq' speech

                                                you're right, fools shouldn't jump to conclusions

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                                                  protoham1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                  bobo, I guess you are wrong, he didn't graduate.

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                                                  AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                  DaneL ~
                                                  What did they come up with just this past month to explain what happened to Bldg. 7? Something that has never happened before in the history of the world? Funny they really needed any further explanation than that contained in the two-part PBS documentary
                                                  called, "Rebuilding America". During the doc - they interviewed the owner, Mr. Silverstein. He is calmly sitting at his desk explaining to the film-makers how after talking to fire officials on the 11th -
                                                  HE DECIDED TO "PULL" BLDG. 7 - !
                                                  Why stand on your head in 2008 to offer an exotic explanation to the strange implosion-style collapse when any demolition expert can tell you what
                                                  the owner meant (the ONLY logical interpretation) when he said that he decided to PULL it.
                                                  Why would they lie to us? IMO, you'd be a fool NOT to question.

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                                                corl641 year, 3 months ago

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                                                I think it's a waste of time and energy to keep investigating this. Our country was attacked by terrorists, and all you want to do is point fingers at the administration. I would also feel the same way if a Democrat was in office at the time this happened.

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                                                  dissent1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                  then what say you to this?

                                                  fta

                                                  "to this day, the FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorist" web page on bin Laden, while listing him as wanted for bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, makes no mention of 9/11....

                                                  When the FBI's chief of investigative publicity was asked why not, he replied: "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.""

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                                                    DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                    I guess we just took Bin Laden's word for it. He's an honorable guy tho, values the truth. he'd never lie to us...

                                                    I asked yesterday what evidence there was AQ did 9/11 on a thread when it was less than 7 hours old

                                                    I honestly wanted to know

                                                    407 comments, and no one answered my question

                                                    why isn't the evidence against AQ common knowledge, since we've gone to 2 wars and spent trillions on it?

                                                    because we just took a mass murdering scumbags word for it?

                                                    I don't know, but if anyone knows an answer to that evidence question, let me know. I still want to know.

                                                    It will save me a lot of reading, which I don't like

                                                    my own busy brain tells me that maybe some of the highjackers were traced to OBL, but I don't know

                                                    I think AQ did it, but just have never heard the 'proof' spelled out

                                                    Like I said, it should be common knowledge, yet no one will answer my question

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                                                      AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                      DeadXXXMan ~
                                                      I wish I knew that answer as well. Why do we think we know who
                                                      flew those planes into the towers, Atta and others? We were shown
                                                      photos of them going through the boarding process and told
                                                      that they were all members of al-Qaeda. I know of NO human
                                                      remains found of ANY of the passengers on ANY of the planes -
                                                      only of those poor souls in the towers. Then we are shown video
                                                      of Bin Laden happy as a clam SAYING he did it. Anyone connected
                                                      to al-Qaeda was tortured - so that's not testimony I feel comfortable
                                                      accepting without question. Maybe they DID do it - but I question
                                                      the reports that there were warnings inside the US AND from
                                                      outside intelligence sources BEFORE it happened. What
                                                      if this is like Pearl Harbor and we (well, SOME) really knew
                                                      what was coming and chose to let it proceed? As I stated above,
                                                      PNAC has said that we NEEDED another Pearl Harbor.
                                                      This scenario could not have been more perfectly tailored
                                                      to the Neocon dream ...........if they had done it themselves.

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                                                  unome21 year, 3 months ago

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                                                  The Official 9-11 story insults the intelligence of a ten year old. The holes in the official story are so grotesque that you could fly a 757 through them.
                                                  The idea that some part of our own government could be responsible of such horror is more frightening than some bogeyman in a cave in some foreign country being responsible so many Americans cling to their guns , Bible , and the ridicules Bush/Cheney version.

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                                                    nestdevil1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                    Anyone who believes the government was behind 9/11 is a MORON!!

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                                                      Shadowolf1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                      ...and anyone who believes the Bush regime on ANYTHING is retarded...

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                                                        Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                                        and anyone that thinks the government has done a complete investigation and all questions have been answered would be equally a MORON..

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                                                          AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                          Sven62 ~
                                                          Do they also explain TWA Flight 800?
                                                          Another case of a huge, pains-taking investigation that presents
                                                          as it's final conclusion a far-out mechanical error that had NEVER
                                                          happened before - wow!
                                                          Were we all so eager to refute the direct testimony and film evidence
                                                          from the people that actually saw it happen? Why did we latch on to
                                                          what I will always consider a real s-t-r-e-t-c-h of credibility - the
                                                          alternative was not just too awful - but admitting that without our
                                                          government being truthful we have absolutely NO way to prove it
                                                          happened otherwise. That is so scary - like you're not really living
                                                          in America anymore. So yeah - it just HAD to be that little wire and
                                                          the fuel tank and maybe a spark...................it just HAD to be - huh?

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                                                          Sven621 year, 3 months ago

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                                                          You can go to About.com and a million other sites to read every answer you want to your "unanswered questions" concerning 9/11. Also there is an excellent video available from the Discovery Channel that explains in detail how and why the buildings collapsed. It includes interviews with the firemen and building designer. Popular Mechanic also answered most of your questions in a now famous article. Google it.

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                                                          GLee1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                          CRAZIES!!

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                                                            AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                            Cause Oswald had worked undercover for the agency for years?
                                                            I forget what they call that type of agent - his Russian adventure, then his return to the States, then pretending to be pro-Castro and handing out leaflets in New Orleans - but really working for the CIA. Oswald was made to be the patsy - and then Ruby had to go, and Tibbets as well.
                                                            I have a History Channel DVD called, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy".I don't buy into every theory advanced - but the government approved version of the event could not be further from the truth and they KNOW it.
                                                            I was 14 - and the whole family was in tears for weeks. We didn't question ANYTHING. I don't think we ever even contemplated our government being remotely capable of such deceit.

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                                                              simonsez1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                              I am not a conspiracist, but I will make one comment, then I'm outta here:

                                                              I do believe #7 was pulled. I SUSPECT that when the CIA took it as their eastern office, THEY took control of the building and wired it as a doomsday protection for their secrets held in the building. They pulled it ...

                                                              That's my theory. Bye

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                                                                Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                that is something on which we can agree...

                                                                how come no pictures of the GAPING HOLE in tower 7..

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                                                                  Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                  even the guy from Popular Mechanics.. says HE'S SEEN classified pictures.. for the proof.. the readily available stuff is blurry at best....

                                                                  5-6 floors of damage externally does not seem to me.. to be enough to pull down a building of that stature in almost it's own foot print..

                                                                  the CIA was a large tenant.. and it is more than believable that they had secrets there that must be destroyed.. and it got a little out of hand..

                                                                  see my reply above..

                                                                  I AM NOT A TRUTHER.. in that sense.. I WANT TRANSPARENCY IN ALL OF GOVERNMENT.. if you work at trying to hide something .. or tell half the story. MAYBE YOU'RE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING.. the TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE..

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                                                                    Nowalive1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                    Will

                                                                    There were. If you watch the documentary "102 Minutes that Changed the World", you will see civilian footage of WTC 1+2, 5 and 7. In the video you can see the partial roof collapse, from debris from the towers, and a large hole in the building encompassing 5 to 6 floors beneath the roof damage.

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                                                                      Nowalive1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                      Will

                                                                      I was merely answering your question about footage. Yes there is footage of the damage. As to your theory, it is MORE than plausible.

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                                                                        Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                        no offense taken. sorry if it seem that way..

                                                                        I'd bet there are some GREAT stills from many different angles that we haven't seen ..

                                                                        why is ANYTHING regarding photos or video footage of any of the crash sites CLASSIFIED.... seems that footage of the plane.. entire footage not 3 or 4 frames of the plane hitting the pentagon not shown.. why were all the tapes from surrounding security cameras confisgated within minutes of the crash.. which leads to the question.. who would have thought that quickly to go and get them..

                                                                        see that's my big question about Kennedy.. in that day and age. .. How did they obtain a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald and put it on national TV so quickly.. .. and why did so many officers respond to a patron not paying for a movie ticket ... when the President had just been shot.. .. I questioned that when it happened and I WAS 12...

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                                                                          Nowalive1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                          If you remember, the response to the theatre was not for the non payment. It was for the shooting of the deputy. Shoot a cop and police come out of the woodwork, shoot a President and the response is somewhat less than spectacular.

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                                                                  Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                  for anyone touting Popular Mechanics... here's the guy that wrote the story .. TRYING to answer questions on a radio show...

                                                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLx5GATh_z0

                                                                  the guy is an IDIOT..

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                                                                    miklkit1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                    There are just too many strange coincidences. There was the radar operator who was surprised at all of the security that showed up at his site for one time only. 911. Cheney took over NORAD for the first and last time on 911. Our fearless leaders knew in advance.

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                                                                      Xaos1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                      I am not a truther either but I feel this was seen as an opportunity, that is why it was allowed to happen. Would not be the first time that a Government has allowed something bad to happen to advance its position.

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                                                                      onlyonesecret1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                      Why has the United States Department of Justice not charged Usama Bin Laden for 9/11? now, they charged him when he blew up our embassy in Africa in 98. Why the biggest terrorism act in history have they failed to officially charge him for? Why have they not convened a grand jury, presented their evidence, and got an indictment? Second: go to the Internet, go to the FBI website and go to the international list of top 10 terrorists. You will see Bin Laden there. bring his name up, and his picture. Amazingly, all the charges, the embassy of 98 and all this other stuff is all listed. But ironically nothing on 9/11. Nothing. Now, when the FBI was pressed as to why 9/11 wasn't included? Their response was we don't have enough evidence.

                                                                      Jesse Ventura's Speech at Ron Paul's Rally For the Republic, September 2, 2008

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                                                                        AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                        I don't support the death penalty.
                                                                        I would say that a Life term of confinement and living out their days
                                                                        with the awareness that the whole world KNOWS what they did to their own people - their country - and the untold misery they instigated around the globe would be a proper punishment. It would also restore some sense of order to our world. I do not believe that wrongs, such as these, can be righted - but there MUST be a reckoning.

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                                                                        cleare1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                        i don't subscribe to the theory that bush & co created the disasters on 9/11, but there certainly are some serious queries still unanswered. like why they didn't pay attention to the warnings, it is clear they received... the infamous memo and the "chatter" prior to the events.

                                                                        and i will state unequivocally that the administration's response has been worse than inadequete.

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                                                                          Xaos1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                          There were other indicators that something was in the works that were ignored. The best example of these I can recall is reading about a large number of short positions being purchased on US Air and American airlines stock. Someone knew this was coming and planed on making a profit on it using our stock market.

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                                                                          Shadowolf1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                          Let's see...we have some of the worlds best demo experts...some, like the SEALS work for the US Government...we have Cheney confirmed as shutting down NATO, we have the mass evac of Saudi nationals via private jet when ALL civilian air travel was COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN...and almost immediately after fingers started pointing at IRAQ...you compulsive liars,spinners,smearers, Mammonites and FALSE "Christians" pull yourselves up on a pedestal of "Morality" and accuse all others of the same crap you yourselves are proven to do habitually, while deriding the search for answers as "Truthers"...
                                                                          The TOU forbids me from expressing what I really think should happen to those who have defiled my country, done so much damage to the land of my birth, the country I served...

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                                                                            Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                            The TOU forbids me from expressing what I really think should happen to those who have defiled my country, done so much damage to the land of my birth, the country I served...

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                                                                            treason is punishable by DEATH..

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                                                                            jordan111 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                            Never has my mind allowed me to believe that this administration had a hand in planning the 9/11 attack. They're not stupid, and too many people would have to be involved. BUT; I DO believe that they deliberately ignored the risks and the warnings, knowing that it would open pandora's box for them if we were attacked, and they could follow through on the plans they'd held for decades,.....control of Middle Eastern oil. Wolfawitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc etc etc. ALL of them wanted 9/11 to happen, & allowed it to happen. I believe that with all my heart. And if Mcbush is elected, anything left will be buried so deep, the American people will never know the truth. They can't let Obama win for that reason.

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                                                                              Shadowolf1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                              ...especially in time of war which this regime has convieniently provided...the methods I have in mind is what might gross out the Brass...

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                                                                                slate1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                And since Clinton Knew enough to have a report written claiming something was going to happen, why didn't he arrest them instead of leaving it to Bush. It's easy to turn the blame huh?

                                                                                Just like with 9/11 things are monitored and they make assumptions of what those things mean. They seldom get it 100% correct, but it appears that Clinton was pretty close, I still ask, why did he not act on that information and keep Bush from having to?

                                                                                Could it be, he didn't want the responsibility? Could it be like many people want to claim about Bush complacent?

                                                                                There are many scenarios we can look at, of course, since mine doesn’t match yours and others, you’ll believe something else and think I’m wrong. That’s why I love this country, diversity of thought and the right to have a heated debate over it.

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                                                                                  Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                  Could it be, he didn't want the responsibility? Could it be like many people want to claim about Bush complacent?
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                                                                                  or could it be that the republican congress was too busy climbing up his ass about a bl*W j*b to allow him to do his job...

                                                                                  you are aware that Clinton proposed the Patriot Act.. almost verbatum and the Republican congress said it was too intrusive..

                                                                                  they also turned down any recommendations on Al Gores report on terrorism..one of which was to harden cockpit doors and seal them while in flight..

                                                                                  are you aware of all these things or are you just too busy justifying the incompetence of the Bush administration...

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                                                                                  vidman041 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                  coo-koo, coo-koo, coo-koo......

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                                                                                slate1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                It's a known fact that terrorists have plans to blow up tanks of Chlorine and natural gas, what should be done about that? If they do indeed do that when Obama is in office, will that mean he did nothing to stop it from happening?

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                                                                                  Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                  It's a known fact that terrorists have plans to blow up tanks of Chlorine and natural gas

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                                                                                  if they know.. then they probably know WHO .. arrest them..

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                                                                                    jordan111 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                    And since Clinton Knew enough to have a report written claiming something was going to happen, why didn't he arrest them instead of leaving it to Bush. It's easy to turn the blame huh?>>>>

                                                                                    yes, Clinton knew. He warned Congress. He also asked for increased authority to track their network. That included adding cell phones into wiretap authority. It was denied. It included tracking the money source going to known terrorists through increased scrutiny of banks. It was denied. It included bringing all law enforcement officials together for quick assessment of possible terrorist activities. It was denied. It included tracking the origin of explosives. Denied. Clinton knew, and was denied the most favorable means of being pro active. But he kept trying, despite the abjectly moronic congress. He quadrupled the funding for terrorist intelligence to our agencies. He had a daily briefing, and made anti terrorism his #1 priority. Several planned attacks were stopped because he DID make it a priority. And the planner of the first WTC bombing was found in Pakistan, and sits to this day in federal prison.
                                                                                    Rumsfeld cut back the anti terrorism departments. Bush dismantled the anti terrorism office that Clinton set up in the WH so he could be on top of it. Rice sent the FBI 'through channels', and told its head not to bother "the principals" directly.
                                                                                    They're incompetent in the least, and complicit at the worst.

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                                                                                      cloud151 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                      All the theories have been thoroughly debunked. Give it up.

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                                                                                      jordan111 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                      I'm not going to take the bait of your deflection, Slate. Let's stay on subject. Terrorist attack warnings that specifically used the language of using airplanes as weapons.
                                                                                      WHY didn't george bush institute high alert at airports, Slate? WHY did rice send the FBI through 'channels', putting off for months their request to meet with her? WHY with the intelligence of country after country warning of terrorist plans, did bush & CO make terrorism their lowest priority? Why?

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                                                                                        Will13131 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                        jordan.. you make waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much sense for Slate to follow along...

                                                                                        next thing he'll be calling you names..

                                                                                        anyone who doesn't agree is a LIB or idiot..

                                                                                        since most of the other Bush apologists are over at the Trustserve circle jerk.. he has to carry the water..

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                                                                                      mre-teacher1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                      This reminded me of an article (as mentioned by agoodlibertarian) I had sent to me a number of years ago, basically saying there was a plan already in place to invade Iraq, and there was a need to a catalyst to do so. Note the date and those that signed it. Clinton would not go for it, so they found a puppet that would allow them to do so.

                                                                                      http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonlette...

                                                                                      The last line of the letter is eerily fortelling, "If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk."

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                                                                                        agoodlibertian1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                        Thank you mre-teacher for a copy of the letter, lost my original copy. The people who signed this letter are the ones who were screaming the loudest about Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction.

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                                                                                        lloydm651 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                        Wow I can't believe you leftist first you cast dispersions on Palin allowing a defective child to be born,I believe he will be ten times as smart as any of you when he's five years old .Most of these theories about 9 11 were put forth by the hollywood crowd.Didn't your mommy,and dada tell you that nothing these people say,or do is real.These bums take their work home with them ,their poor little children grow up thinking they them selves are real people.

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                                                                                          agoodlibertian1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                          If you really wanted to know what happened and if the Bush Administration was behind 9/11. Look at the project for a new american century(pnac). This organization wanted the U.S. to invade Iraq in 1998. They wrote a letter to Clinton begging him to invade Iraq in January 1998, he would not do it. The pnac took matters into their own hands. It was easy , the 2000 elections was 2 years away
                                                                                          all they needed to start a war with Iraq was to get the right people in power(president, v.p etc)
                                                                                          and make up a reason.If you read their 2000 paper titled Rebuilding America's Defenses, you will find a reference to a new pearl harbor type attack to get the american people behind going to war. 9/11 was their pearl harbor type attack and of course they tried at first to blame Itaq for 9/11 when that failed they waited 6 months and when with weapons of mass destruction to invade Iraq. I do not know if this administration had anything to do with 9/11, but the people in power (look up members in the pnac and compare that to who was in the highest levels of the Bush adm.) you will clearly see(ofcourse not republicans-no common sense) what I am typing about. Know this They were warned 51 times about the terrorists even about using airplanes. To this day I have not found one piece of evidence where they tried to stop the terrorists. Also norad, cia ,the military and Cheney were doing war excersises that day : the
                                                                                          excersises terrorists hijacking U.S. airplanes. When the first warnings were sent to Norad they thought it was part of the excersises this is why there were no initial response. Seems pretty clear that something is wrong. A full investigation is needed but will probably never happen. It needs to be.

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                                                                                          TonyByron1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                          Good God. The astounding lack of critical thinking out here is truly...astounding.
                                                                                          http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tru...

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                                                                                            Commodore11 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                            Oh gosh. The conspiracy lunatics have escaped again from the loony bin. It's sad that they sing the same tune but never once have provided a shred of evidence. Please return to the loony bin and let the nice doctors give U the help U desperately need. .

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                                                                                              Xaos1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                              Speaking of loonies, who let you out Commodore1?

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                                                                                                AnteUp1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                                Hey Commodore ~
                                                                                                Old enough to remember the Pueblo? Commander Lloyd Bucher - ring any bells?
                                                                                                Was Watergate a lie? Was poor old Gary Powers of U2 spy flight fame - doing the job he was assigned?
                                                                                                Did Tiger Force have Free Fire Zone orders? Did My Lai happen? - did Abu Ghraib?

                                                                                                You did not get the straight scoop on ANY of those events until they were either re-investigated or they grew so old that it was okay for we citizens
                                                                                                to know the truth.
                                                                                                As far as looking for evidence? At least some of us still try whip up some public interest in the subject. As for unquestionable evidence of a HUGE -
                                                                                                and largely unknown......and certainly never mentioned... LIE. Get a copy of "Day of Deceit", by Robert B. Stinnett from your library. Yeah - even a
                                                                                                family hero, FDR - played this miserable game of strategically planned disaster for the USA, to further a White House agenda. Over 60 years ago
                                                                                                and few people know about it. Because it's not true? No - because they don't want to discuss it.
                                                                                                I think sticking your head in the sand rather loonier than trying to figure out what is really going on in our world.

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                                                                                                  TheRealizer1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                                  Spade...It almost looks like the cool-aid destroys brain cells and causes the inbibers to get ever more convinced that the cons are never wrong.......

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                                                                                                    Spadecaller1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                                    Some people would not want to know the truth anyway. They are usually the ones ridiculing everyone else for asking questions that need answers.

                                                                                                    “There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”

                                                                                                    —Herbert Spencer

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                                                                                                      VicRugby1 year, 3 months ago

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                                                                                                      I think the tin foil industry is doing great. A LOT of hats are being made in this crowd.

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