CNN: Only Racism Explains Obama's Slide In Polls »
Posted By Karlyc 1 year, 2 months ago in News"The differences between Barack Obama and John McCain couldn't be more well-defined. Obama wants to change Washington. McCain is a part of Washington and a part of the Bush legacy. Yet the polls remain close. Doesn't make sense…unless it's race."
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Karlyc1 year, 2 months ago
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Some people find it impossible to believe that anyone could possibly disagree with Obama for policy reasons, or heaven forbid, actually like Sarah Palin. We will see a lot more of this race card being played before election day, and after election day too, if Obama loses.
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StillUnashamed1 year, 2 months ago
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The first line said it. "The differences between Barack Obama and John McCain couldn't be more well-defined." That is why Obama is slipping. People are beginning to find out who he is and where he stands on issues.
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When Obama was only seen as the first viable black presidential candidate people became enthused about him BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. Many now no longer see him as the first viable Black candidate, but another clone of the long line of liberal candidates with positions that run counter to the average American. -
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bigurn1 year, 2 months ago
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I see a lot of people getting drunk on highmindedness with Barack Obama's candidacy. They are too much a part of the historical perspective to have an analytical perspective. We STILL don't know much about this guy, except what he's told us.
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
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not the novelty ... its all the lies and distortions by her and embellished by McBush!
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Then add her support of indicted Stevens, her denial to talk to investigators on her firing of the police chief, and her refusal to release her tax history when Biden has! Just more nontransparent repug garbage.... who if elected would just give us the next Great Depression! Repugs gave us the first too! -
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jovial1 year, 2 months ago
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There's two sides to that coin Karly. Some people find it impossible to believe that anyone could disagree with Palin for policy reasons. Or the fact wthat McCain is elderly and has been diagnosed with cancer 4 times. This makes the posssibility of this person becoming president more than just likely. The sex card is being played by Republicans. Everytime questions are raised about Palin it raises the hair up on conservatives' necks and the sex card is played quite often. They don't even want her interviewed on foreign policy for chrissakes! The questions were to hard. Obama went through this vetting for almost two years and conservatives felt perfectly justified to leave no stone unturned. Yet this governor comes on the scene as a nobody and when people ask questions or start digging into her past people claim sexism.
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
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pc251 year, 2 months ago
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in a desperate attempt to become elected the Obama campaign and all his supporters have been playing the race card since the election cycle began. Not surprisingly the MSM soon picked up on this and began trumpeting it through this election year. No you simply MUST BE FOR OBAMA ANYTHING ELSE IN UNACCEPTABLE. WE ARE THE CHOSEN ONES, WE HAVE BEEN ORDAINED TO CHANGE THE WORLD, BELIEVE IN US AND BE SAVED, ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT IS HERESY AND ALL UNBELIEVERS SHALL BE PUNISHED. If you are not a supporter of Obama it is simply because you are racist. It doesn't matter if you agree with his policies, or lack of experience (a total of 143 days on the Senate floor, and a failed community organizer before that) it is simply you are a racist. As far a Washington insiders are concerned Obama picked the ultimate Washington insider ( 35 years) as his running mate Joe Biden.
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Here is a prime example of the race card being played out by the MSM
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/17/jack-caffert...
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mark-stevens1 year, 2 months ago
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It's a trick question, Obama is slipping in the polls, but to the positive side, he's a head in the polls for the first time since Mayor Moose got on board.
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Do you know that when dead and hanging from an airplane, an Alaska wolf looks just like the family pet German shephard. $150 tax payer money?? -
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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Alph, no, I think most sane people find it hard to believe that right wingers are still pretending to have a thoughtful, rational, morally defensible approach to deciding who they should elect to run their country (particularly after their behavior over the last 8 years and after the GOP nominated a candidate cons despise and who doesn't represent their values). What most Americans find hard to understand is why cons think they have anything to be proud of after the colossal horrific trainwreck Bush and the GOP have made out of the US.
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Don't cons here realize that after you elect George Bush twice, your credibility and personal judgement have been confirmed to be FUBAR and warped in all conceivable ways? This is why we don't believe cons when they pretend to be speech, voice, and diction experts and we don't believe them when they regurgitate crap about "socialism" (particularly now as we're seeing the tragic results of socialized capitalism on our economy more and more each day--please cons, now STHU about the "free market"). It doesn't work. We know you've been lying all along so please don't try to peddle this crap anymore. Thanks. ;-(
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lilaws1 year, 2 months ago
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There is the "Dinkins" effect. In every entry and exit poll Mayor Dinkens beat the challenger, Rudy Guiliani, in the NYC mayor race. The only poll Rudy won, was the one that counted, the election. The lesson is that racism is alive and well and does not show up in polling. If NY City had the effect, imagine how much greater it is, in less cosmopolitan areas. The Republicans have feasted on wedge issues and race for decades. The current polling should not even be close given the failures of the current administration and its low approval rating. Add to that an unpopular war and a poor economy and the incumbent party should be 10 points down. Race is a huge part of Obama's problem. Sad but true.
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Karlyc1 year, 2 months ago
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It also is called the Bradley effect. In reality it is a form of reverse racism, not actual racism as you suggest. What it means is people who are polled do not want to appear to be racist to the poll taker who is in their face, or on their phone, so they mis-state their preference to pollsters. They fear being labeled racist - as in the CNN article and the comments here - by their policy views, when they are contrary to those of a minority candidate playing the race card like Obama and his followers have been. So, where intimidation is not present in the voting booth, the voters are free to vote their policy preference.
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Klarissa1 year, 2 months ago
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cruising73881 year, 2 months ago
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Don't ya just love it? The message here is if you don't vote for Obama you are either racist or a retard - there are no other possibilities in the liberal mind because only they see the world as it truly is. What totally biased bigotry
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Candida1 year, 2 months ago
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Klarissa: "If you were black, would you tell a pollster that you were voting for McCain?"
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How does a pollster know whether you are black? I'm just asking because I completed a poll a few minutes ago about our election, and I'm pretty sure that the pollster at the other end of the line had no idea whether I was white, brown, yellow or black.
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ChefEOD1 year, 2 months ago
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Don't ya just love it? The message here is if you don't vote for Obama you are either racist or a retard - there are no other possibilities in the liberal mind because only they see the world as it truly is. What totally biased bigotry.
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SpareChange1 year, 2 months ago
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this is supposed to be posted under Klarissa's idiotic question: "If you were black, would you tell a pollster that you were voting for McCain?"
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well, after knowing that McCain rejected and fought against the MLK holiday even after it was made into a national holiday and knowing that McCain voted against divestment of american funds in south africa's apartheid regime and voted against sanctions that would have punished the south african govt. for their apartheid policies during that same time, the answer is NO. -
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ind061 year, 2 months ago
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"If you were black, would you tell a pollster that you were voting for McCain?"
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Since most polls are conducted by phone I would think unless I had one of those D!ck Tracey two-way wrist radio phones (that would be just SO COOL!) I wouldn't care what I said because they wouldn't know what the color of my skin was anyway. And even if they somehow magically did (or non-magically, had simply asked me) my answer to your question would be "Of course I would, why should I be any more or less ashamed to tell a pollster my vote than any other person?"
I see a lot of assumptions being made here and I don't understand how you think this helps you. The poll numbers are what they are, pretending that they're not... what good does that do you?
I know who I'm voting for but I don't want to sit around discussing reasons why what's going on may not actually be what's going on and an appearance of losing is actually the sign of a titanic win, or vice-versa. I want the truth. Polls aren't infallible, and at best are simply a snap shot of a moment in time, but they've proved to be pretty reliable. At any rate, they're the best we've got.
In my life, on this very site actually, there have been numerous times when I've been painfully reminded of Walter Matthau teaching the Bad News Bears why one should never assume. I try to take that lesson with me.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 2 months ago
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lilaws - well said - however, what I don't get is why people get so angry when called on this. Why does it bother the racist so to be told that he is what he is? I have always said there is no such thing as the race card, if what is being said is true. Then you are being told you are using the race card only to silence your truth! In essence the race card statement is being used by the racist to promote his racism, you are being called a racist by the racist!
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Candida1 year, 2 months ago
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ChefEOD: "The message here is if you don't vote for Obama you are either racist or a retard"
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No, that's not the message. The message is that since about 70% of the population is dissatisfied with the current administration, and since the Republican Party offers more of the same, it would be logical that the Democrats lead by a large margin. One explanation for the even split is racism.
Do you have a better explanation? In what way would the McCain/Palin government be different from the Bush/Cheney government? I listened to Sarah Palin as she attempted to answer this question during the Charlie Gibson interview, but all I heard was vague promises to "make government better." I'm listening; explain to me how the world truly is. -
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ind061 year, 2 months ago
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I believe the question Jack Cafferty asked was, IF Sen. Obama loses, did race play a part in the loss?
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Which is exactly the question you just asked, minus the "This is sick" part.
I don't blame you, that question, which was the original title, has been re-worded to be a statement of fact so that might be confusing.
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protoham1 year, 2 months ago
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Of course I include myself. What if both applicants applied at the exactly same time and you didn't have your magic coin to make critical decision for your company? Lets add more thing, all your customers are blue and some of them really don't like green people. What are you going to do?
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protoham1 year, 2 months ago
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Fine, if BO loses it is because of his race. OK with me.
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Everybody is a racist, everybody, and I can prove it. Consider two people applying for a job, both with equal education, both with equal experience. One is Blue one is Green. You are Blue, Be honest, which one do you hire?
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StillUnashamed1 year, 2 months ago
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Do you include yourself in the phrase "everybody is a racist"?
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You don't know me, yet you call me a racist! Isn't that the definition of PREJUDICE? Actually if everything was absolutly equal between two applicants the job would go to the one who applied first. If both applied at the same moment, I guess I'd have to flip a coin. -
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
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busterggi1 year, 2 months ago
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i'm voting for Obama but my 85 year old mother won't vote for him and neither will her friends.
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Why? Because he's black.
For their age bracket racism isn't considered bad, its considered the norm.
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
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...I hope you are trying to broaden their minds... and show them how Un-American their old beliefs are!
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Our own Supreme Court declared Indians "un-American and dependant" in 1873 to steal their land and issue sole source unadited contracts to poorly maintain them on reservations too (it was a repug world from the Civil war to the Great Depression)! Got to start somewhere to really make America what the Constitution and Bill of Rights originally envisioned.
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poniesnpoker1 year, 2 months ago
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After the last 8 years of Republican destruction, this election should be a no-brainer. Unfortunately, we are not as far along in society as many people think. Any white man who could put two words together would be way ahead in the polls. This man, as thoughtful, intelligent, and well-spoken as he is, is struggling in the polls. It's his color. People, wake up. Haven't you seen enough of the Republican party and the damage it has done? It's time for a new direction.
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Nailkeg1 year, 2 months ago
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In talking politics with several of my clients whom are african american, I find some of them who will vote for BO are doing so because of race not policy! Therefore if the candidates races were switched we would have a good number of blacks voting for JMC. Now that is ignorant racism. People we need to look at the policies a candidate stands for and decide which one will hurt us the most and vote accordingly.
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somesayok1 year, 2 months ago
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I think you all are wrong. I'm black and i'm not voting for Obama, But i'm also not voting for McCain. I think they are both shady. I also live in Alaska and im not on the Palin wagon. I think I'm going to sit this one out. Let everyone else have the choice. I feel like neither are fighting for the little man Who makes just enough, whose not on hand outs and does it on their own. I thought someone would have a voice for us but they dont and lets face it ( we heard it all before with bush and i am sorry that i voted for him the first time. How is this new person going to effect us, No jobs, No security, I for one don't see any of this getting better and have no faith in our future president.
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GehlLady1 year, 2 months ago
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Somesayok,
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I can understand how you feel, but, may I ask you to reconsider not voting at all? There are other options on the ballot for the Presidency, the small parties. I'm disgusted myself, but I think for myself, instead of giving up my right to vote I'll register my dissatisfaction by showing support for someone other than the 2 parties in power. I am well aware the smaller parties won't win, this time, but the more good hard working people that sit home the more power the big "2" have, and most important, the closer we get to having our right to vote taken from us. The more votes the smaller parties get, the more "they" know we won't stand for much more of this cr*p.-
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
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If you an't see the damage done by Bush and that McBush is more of the same... then you deserve what we get.
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One more repug supreme court judge and habeas corpus is out ( 4 votes last time to throw it out) and the Unitary Executive is approved throwing out the Constitutions' checks and balances.
Or, you can trust the track record, even if not the best of the last Dem in the White House, who left office with a 65% approval rating in spite of 7 years of repug instigated investigation of him to stop him from really helping Americans (healthcare revamp was one of his goals for example). He also led during the greatest continuous period of prosperity and got full NATO consensus before the Kosovo war where not a single soldier was lost to enemy fire!
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cushi1 year, 2 months ago
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I don't believe you for the simple reason that if you have listened to the candidates and evaluated their positions, you would definitely know that Barack Obama's whole political life has been spent fighting for the little man! If you don't know that by now, you are not paying attention and I urge you to educate yourself in that respect. Going to his website and actually reading his positions would be a good place to start.
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cushi1 year, 2 months ago
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I do not believe you for the simple reason that if you have examined all the candidates, you would definitely know that Barack Obama's whole political life has been about fighting for the little man! If you don't know that, you have not been paying attention and you need to. I suggest you go to his website and actually read his positions and his ideas as a start.
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slmgdy1 year, 2 months ago
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It's kind of hard to think that race isn't a factor in this election. What we must understand is that racism works both ways. You shouldn't vote for Obama because he is black if you don't know what he stands for. And on the other side, don't vote for McCain because you don't want a black president. Whoever wins will lead this county for four years, please people look beyond the color of the skin of the candidates and listen to where they want to lead us as a country.
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
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...and look at the last two presidential elections to see that McBush is stating the same lies as Dumya! And a VP with no national or international experience.... what lunacy!
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If its the economy, remember that BcBush said his weak point personnally is economics... why he takes on just more proven repug failures as advisors, including lobbyists!
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epiphannyy1 year, 2 months ago
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I think its extremely naive to believe race plays no part in this race, both for and against Obama. There are some who will vote for Obama simply because he is black, just as there are those who won't consider voting for him because he is black. That is simply a fact in a country where race plays such a huge part in people's lives and decision making process.
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Conversely, there are many in this election making a reasoned choice that race plays no part in at all. They are basing their decision on policy stance and the political promises made by each candidate.
All that being said, the fact that we have polls indicating 80% of the people believe we're on a collision course with disaster, yet those same polls show a 50%-50% split between a candidate proposing change and a candidate proposing "stay the course" then it does beg the question as to why. If they are all voting based on the issues, then the same 80%-20% split should exist, but it doesn't. Is race the issue that creates such a disparity? Perhaps, although I think its impossible to know for sure since most people would never admit to racism being a factor in their own decision making process. I think to believe it plays no part at all, however, is pretty unrealistic.-
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
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Epi, good sane thought process and conclusion! Remember the George Mason study last month that determined that 72% of opinions on ABC/NBC/CBS evening news were negative to Abama... add the Repug ownership of the media to your list why Obama isn't polling higher!
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Well, the major media gave Dumya a go on his go to war lies too! Why we need the Truth in Telecommunications Act that Reagan vetoed and the Fairness Act that all the repugs fight now!
The Conservatives are just polarizing and destroying America more every day with Fox Faux Facts (3 F's) in the vanguard!
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slmgdy1 year, 2 months ago
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I think for those who are not racist it's hard to believe that racism is alive and well. I also believe that everyone to some extent is a little prejudice. If you weren't raised around a certain type of people, then you tend to believe what you hear about them and in some cases believe it to be fact.
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barboy1 year, 2 months ago
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The world is unaware how black people are hated. People have a very difficulty time with the color of our skin. being a black female I spented 7 years as a nurse in the USANC. while working in the private sector, I would go home some times and ask GOD WHY?. FROM SLAVERY until today and the years to come, . Most older white will not vote for a black man. the young white will. that's how black have been able to keep going. We know many white people care. Racial Prejudice is a problem in this country and will be when were dead and buried. My father was in world war 2. it was their then and still is.
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andersjudy1 year, 2 months ago
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We desperately need Obama to take the reins of government. Comparing Obama to McCain is like comparing FDR to Hoover. The only reason Obama is not soaring in the polls by double digit numbers is simply because he is black! There is a dark underbelly of our society that is racist, homophobic, anti-semitic, ageist, and every other ugly trait that goes against the purity and nobility of our human American spirit. Pray that our citizens wake up and see the light before November.
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gopcaseman1 year, 2 months ago
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I want Obama to win so I don't have to hear this, everyone is racist bullcrap. If you got a black president that better be the last time I hear how we white are all a bunch of racists holding blacks down. Powell, Rice, Thomas, all appionted by Republicans, where they praised? No they where called house n*^%^rs. Nice! All blacks are apperently suppose to agree on all issues, just like woman of course. The only group that can have different opinions are white males. What a joke.
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prokat1 year, 2 months ago
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Thank you i am also sick of hearing this crap about race to it will not be cause of race if he dose not win.Look at how many whites are voting for him where ever he go's all you see is in the crowd is almost white people i don't understand why blacks think it will be cause he is black Obama is not all black you don't ever here a black person say anything about Obama being white to he was raise in a white home.If anyone should know about being black or white it should be him i don't see him talking bad about his mother or his grandmother and grandfather cause if you look at this as race you are also saying that they are racists to cause of them being white.I know that Obama is sick of hearing about the race card to you know that it dose put him in a spot .The next thing you will hear if he dose win and the blacks don't like some of the things he dose is all that is the white side of him he not going to help the black people he for the whites. Look what Jessie Jackson said about him cause he though he was talking about the black man.Yes there is still alot of racist going on but the blacks are racist too they just don't want you to think they are.For me i don't know if i will vote for either one i am not a republican .I think it will be Obama .Why all this about race just turn me off on all this crap i don't think i want any part of who going to win i don't think either one is going to help the little man anyway.All you hear on tv is them talking about each other i am sick of it.I have other things to be worry about that this crap i am trying to help my sister get some kind of inc here in tenn she has cancer and this state dose not cover the kind she has now if that is not something then i don't know what is what is she going to do when her inc runs out in Oct i don't know But i bet i can't get these two men to help.Maybe i should write them just to see.
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DreamofJeanies1 year, 2 months ago
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The title of this article is a little misleading. I don't think CNN ever made that claim in the article.
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Otherwise, has anyone heard of this racist white organization that are saying they will vote for Obama so that "when he fails," people will believe that black people shouldn't be in power? I heard it but I'm not sure there's any truth to it. -
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Candida1 year, 2 months ago
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sdyent: "there is a race issue in America,I think your comments and tone prove this , his slip in the polls , IMO, has little to do with it."
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I agree with most of your comment, but I'm curious. If you don't think that race has much to do with this slip in the polls, what do you think does? -
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ungles1 year, 2 months ago
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No, the fact that he is a whitey-hating racist, socialist, and elitist among many other things is the reason he is doing **** poor. I get so tired of "African Americans" throwing race in our face, every time that things don't go their way. It really should be an embarrassment to upstanding blacks across the country.
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sdyent1 year, 2 months ago
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It'd be nice to see you provide some of the "facts" that prove he's a "whitey-hating racist". I get tired of African Americans (no quotation needed) pulling the card when it's not valid and his drop in the polls are not a valid time to pull it. Just so I'm clear there is a race issue in America,I think your comments and tone prove this , his slip in the polls , IMO, has little to do with it.
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 2 months ago
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Registered IDIOT as well, I assume?
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I grow so tired of the whitey-hating elitist socialist crap.
It's complete reverse-racism. "I'll call the other guy a whitey-hater so I can get away with being racist". You prove it by referring to in quotes "african americans" (as a whole, by your implication) COLLECTIVELY "throwing race in your face every time things don't go their way". Then you try and compensate for your racist rant by saying that they are an embarrasment to "upstanding blacks". The fact is, whether or not ANYONE else is a racist, you most DEFINITELY are, as is proven by your comment.
Of course, now you'll just say I'm playing the race card, even though simple paragraph comprehension betrays you as at the VERY LEAST a bigot.
Reverse racism. It's the new thing. Call the black guy whitey hating racist so you can get away with trashing him and not feeling bad.
You make me sick.
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