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Posted By jovial 1 year, 3 months ago in Science & TechnologyA group of hackers that hit the Church of Scientology's site earlier this year have apparently cracked the Yahoo Mail account belonging to Gov. Sarah Palin , the Republican nominee for vice president, according to documents and screenshots posted on the Web.
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jovial1 year, 3 months ago
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http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_...
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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No, Anonymous isn't associated with the Obama campaign.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)
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Charlson1 year, 3 months ago
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If you conduct government business on your personal email account to hide your involvement in something you don't want the public to know, then you have no reasonable right to privacy. When the president refuses to turn over emails relating to a congressional investigation and then mysteriously loses them and when the governor of the state of Alaska refuses to turn over her emails because of that same "executive priviledge", then I applaud citizens who attempt to reveal what they're trying to hide. Wish they'd go after Bush and Cheney's emails.
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jovial1 year, 3 months ago
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Excusing Perjury charges are a favorite pasttime of the GOP. All the Plame outers got away. Libby took the fall. Then had his sentence commuted. Cheney was never investigated, and refused to testify under oath. Can we just say that Republicans can't perjure themselves because they invoke "executive priviledge" and never place themselves under oath.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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gamahuche1 year, 3 months ago
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For once I'll disagree with you.
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If she had been using the site solely as a place to chat [not-so] privately wirth friends I'd agree that the petty-mindedness of the interlopers would be nothing other than a gratuitous and offensive act.
The fact that she was evidently using it to hide partisan political activity completely nullifies that and is just as anti-democratic and culpable as document shredding/phone-tapping and all the other devious scams.
Only open government can be legitimate, allowing some wriggle-room only for what are genuine non-partisan STATE secrets.-
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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I believe intent rather then damage caused should be the reasoning behind whether an action is justifiable or not. Unless Anonymous can produce a reason other then "Well, its obvious what it was being used for, isn't it?" or "She's Palin. She doesn't deserve privacy." I can't excuse these actions. There has to be a justified reason for the hacking of the account in the first place. This is not different then if an officer would pull you over, search your car and find drugs and use the drugs as a reasoning to search your car before said officer had any evidence drugs were in the car.
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Evidence of illegal activity after an illegal search does not excuse the illegal search.-
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Charlson1 year, 3 months ago
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Ah, but the information you gleem from the illegal search many shine a light in the illegal actions of public officials. And may also cause some of these public officials to think twice before conducting government business on personal email accounts.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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No, I'm just sick of the b.s being propagated by everyone on this site, the right in particular but the left hasn't exactly been exactly innocent in it. I'd be completely outraged if a group hacked into a private e-mail account of Obama's and I'm outraged that a group did the same to Palin. Its disgusting. The only consolation is that it isn't part of either campaign, just a group of idiots. No reason existed for the hacking in the first place other then vague suspicion and that isn't a valid reason. All of you should know better, including the idiots who claim this is part of the Obama campaign. This is no more part of Obama's campaign then the idiots who planned to kill Obama were part of McCain's campaign.
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And no, your comment wasn't insulting. That is why I gave it a positive. It did miss the point of what I was stating though.-
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Charlson1 year, 3 months ago
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Mdlar, I am guilty of going over the top in comments I make on Propeller. And I didn't miss your point of legality and use of illegally accessed evidence.
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If Obama was conducting official or unofficial government business in his email account and refused to make them public then I'd have no problems with hacking to get that information. People have tried almost every legal way to get access to email accounts from both Bush and Palin and have been snubbed all the way. Some times civil disobedience is needed to shine a light on the practices of our government officials if these officials refuse to conduct business the right way. And I have no illusion that either Palin or Bush will be held accountable by the law but maybe they'd be held accountable by public opinion.
And I apologise about my comment about you leaving. That was low, even for me.-
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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At the moment, its a worry of Alaska what Palin has been doing.
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Civil disobedience is necessary when it serves its purpose. This does not serve its purpose. Palin won't be held accountable by public opinion. I've grown extremely skeptical of voters in the world (not just the United States). Rarely, in the more mature democracies at least, do issues actually matter anymore. Its vote party line and whoever has the more energized base wins. This event could serve to energize the Republican Party base by adding to the Us vs. Them mentality.
Don't worry about the comment. I'm only participating in this thread because someone accused the Obama campaign of doing this in the first place, which is a pretty dumb assertion when you consider only 5 screenshots exist when, if it were a competent group, a screenshot of every e-mail would have existed. Obama's campaign is competent.
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Spadecaller1 year, 3 months ago
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The entire world is only affected by this next election. Full disclosure should be demanded by a presidential or vice presidential candidate of both parties.
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Palin's need to hide her real identity is becoming more clear as we go on. We would not even need to know about her email communiques if she submitted to allowing the press to really get to know her. It is all too apparent that an organized effort to conceal her extremist views has been operating since her surprising nomination. After eight long years living with the secret Bush administration should be enough warning for anyone.
I find this whole thing amusing in an odd way. The neocons are showing concern about the invasion of personal privacy.
Ha! Since when have they posted those concerns before on Propeller?
They never cared a hoot about wire tapping performed by corrupted government officials. The flip flopping hypocrisy of this new right wing in our nation is pathetic and dangerous.The repression of the truth is the real theme of the GOP. That has become more and more obvious. One good look at the state of Wall Street, K Street, and our public streets are proof of that!-
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jovial1 year, 3 months ago
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Really, you're right. I guess in their minds it's OK for the government to look at your emails, but individual citizens need to stay out! I wonder if the GOP response would have been as loud if the emails leaked had been Al Sharpton's or John Kerry's or Nancy Pelosi?
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ind061 year, 3 months ago
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I'm sure people are working on it.
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For the record, I saw and read these e-mails last night on a different site, and...
It was like taking a stroll through someone else's mail, or reading your sister's diary, interesting (kind of) but fraught with that distasteful feeling of truly violating another's privacy.
I feel soiled.
Even if the letters had contained something somehow important it would still not be my preferred method of finding out about corruption. The ends do NOT justify the means in a nation ruled by law.
Heck, I didn't even like it when they "outed" William Shatner for being bald.-
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jovial1 year, 3 months ago
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I'm sure in some NSA spy room this type of stuff is done day in and day out. It's nasty, it's despicable, and it's wrong. Yet I heard many propellerites on this site say, " I don't have anything to hide, so who cares if they read my emails. You Libs are so silly! You must be a terrorist if you afraid of someone listening to your phone calls or reading your email." I hope this illustrates to everyone how vulnerable and invaded this type of thing makes people feel.
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nd70md1 year, 3 months ago
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I haven't seen anything of any government import on the emails that I have seen. There does not seem to be any intent to hide anything. Her private email account is just that. If there were to be any discovery, it should be done legally. If the posting web site knew that this was illegally obtained, the editors and/or publisher should go to the same State/Federal jail for trafficking in stolen goods. This is so insulting that few focus on the illegality of the known fact that these were illegally pirated and would rather focus on speculation that she might have something in these emails of significance. The high and mighty on this would be singing a different tune if it were their private correspondence spread over the net.
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flyonthewallzz1 year, 3 months ago
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HMMM.....
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I seem unable to reply to comments this evening at this box.
Klarssa: I wish you knew about my recent positive votes.
Mdair and mntnman444: I find myself in fuzzy disagreement with you.
Let me repeat "Fuzzy".
It seems to me that since "Operation Shamrock" electronic communication is unprotected. So my feeling "this evening" is that, if folks phones are tapped, Emails monitored, cell phones are being used to locate where people are.
Well then the hackers are just pointing out the weaknesses and possibly tempering the system.
I say go ahead: publish Baracks Email.
It is funny how Diary's have little locks on them.
It is true that folks write stuff they do not want to share.
It is naive to think that stuff bounced off satellites is private.
Be they Hackers or the NSA, people will try to peep.
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