Obama Looked Presidential, While McCain Was Angry »
Posted By capj71 1 year, 3 months ago in NewsWe can talk about who had the best lines or zingers all night, but a major subtheme of this debate was the question of Barack Obama’s readiness to be president. Obama held his own in foreign policy. McCain was a little subpar, but Obama won tonight by looking like a president.
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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That's the new CON spin. They're all trying to distance themselves from bush, & put democrats in their place. And they're hoping Americans are so stupid that they'll forget their rubber stamps for every last one of bush's requests. (And Johnny is right up there with the rest of them).
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Goppy1 year, 3 months ago
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I was very eager to watch this debate.
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Obama validated my assessment of him that has been crystalizing since he became the nominee. He is a serious, straight talker, not prone to typical 'old school' ad hominem attacks, and very, very prepared.
What was added, in my opinion, was a refreshing embrace of ... a vision for Moral Values.
I say refreshing because ... this has been missing for so long in American Politics. In fact, the past 8 years will go down in history as the most Morally Vacant in our long, illustrious history as a nation.
Ttraditional American values' is precisely what's been painfully missing since the Reagan era.
When Republicans merged the Neo-Conservative ideology into their platform, they not only took on an immoral military expansionist ethos ...but also a Morally Vacant ideology of promoting welfare for the wealthy.
This 'Welfare for the Wealthy' also goes by 'Trickle Down' economics. The very essence of which is something America rejected after the Robber Baron days.
Even Republicans, in their candid moments, ridicule the whole notion ... as George H. W. Bush did when he ridiculed Reagan's Trickle Down ideas as 'VooDoo Economics'.
And yet, here is Johnny McCain ... STILL promoting tax cuts for the wealthy.
Let me tell you, you can only give someone money (welfare) until there is reached a point of diminishing returns.
It happens with welfare to the poor, and it happens with welfare for the rich.
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quackpot1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama was NOT prepared for this debate. He missed several knock-out-hits that should have ended the contest in round three.
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just one example (more to come from the duck- hold on)..
--Obama when asked about the current recession should have POUNDED McCain's approach to reducing spending.: The U.S. needs to pump money INTO the economy during a recession so as to give the main street person money to spend.......like duh?
During the EARLY prosperous years of GWB (thanks to Cinton), the REPUBLICAN controlled congress and executive ranches, the U.S. should have been paying down the debt, NOT raSING IT. But. instead they SPENT SPENT SPENT. -
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tschrnywolf1 year, 3 months ago
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YES, SENATOR OBAMA WON DEFINITELY :)'
MCCAIN CAN DISH IT OUT, BUT HE BEHAVED RUDELY AND WAS REPETITIVELY BORING. IT WAS AWFUL HOW HE INTERRUPTED OBAMA AND KEPT BEING HOSTILE. MCCAIN IS IN THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL, EITHER FOR HEALTH CONDITIONS, OR INSANITY. MANY DRUGS CAUSE CRAZY SIDE EFFECTS, DEPRESSION OR ANGER.
NOW KISSINGER, THE FORMER COOL STATESMAN IS TRESPASSING THE LINE TOO! OH, BOY. SEE WHAT PALIN DID? JUST DISGUSTING. -
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YES, SENATOR OBAMA WON DEFINITELY :)'
MCCAIN CAN DISH IT OUT, BUT HE BEHAVED RUDELY AND WAS REPETITIVELY BORING. IT WAS AWFUL HOW HE INTERRUPTED OBAMA AND KEPT BEING HOSTILE. MCCAIN IS IN THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL, EITHER FOR HEALTH CONDITIONS, OR INSANITY. MANY DRUGS CAUSE CRAZY SIDE EFFECTS, DEPRESSION OR ANGER.
NOW KISSINGER, THE FORMER COOL STATESMAN IS TRESPASSING THE LINE TOO! OH, BOY. SEE WHAT PALIN DID? JUST DISGUSTING. -
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ISITJUSTME1 year, 3 months ago
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When you have sided with Bush over 90% of the time, you have to say "What" when they try to portary their opponent as being like the president. So McCain is saying Obama voted with Bush more than 90% of the time. What happen to the republican brand and why are the republican running away from it.
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rhea124831 year, 3 months ago
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The only reason Obama seemed more prepared was that he was jabbering out a larger vocabulary; trying to be the wiser intellect, but McCain knew exactly what he was talking about. Obama just prides himself on being a good speaker, which in my opinion, he is not...Remember, Obama only "speaks" of all his political views, when he intern does not have the slightest clue on how to make it happen, whereas, McCain, he has the knowledge and background. "This is not an on-the-job training" type of career, but presidency! Use common sense! McCain is the way to go!
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sub_q1 year, 3 months ago
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After watching this debate is is clear to me that McCain has more to him than I had first thought. Obama has a lot of talk about how he would like things to be. I do not have confidence in him to do what he says. America is at war and our economy is suffering because of it. We need a realist to take care of the situation at hand. I am really scared to see people interested in electing Obama. I don't want to "change" the problem; I want a fix to the problem.
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november081 year, 3 months ago
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sure it is not a 'on the job training' to be come and be the next president, but look what happened to us so far. son with daddy background screwed it also up. We need a real change or we all might be living of bread and butter pretty soon.
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Bacalao1 year, 3 months ago
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After watching the whole debate I realized that I should have been taking count. That is taking count of how many times Sen. Obama Had to Correct Sen. McCain. McCain said several misstatements or outright lies about Obama. Sen Obama called him out on lies many times. Most of those seemed to be at the point of subject change. The point at which Mr. Obama couldn't fully question Mr. McCain on these statements. en. McCain seem to be very good at timing his lies about his opponent. Unfortunately he has to stoop to lying about his opponent instead of sticking to factual points.
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MrsRMcDowell211 year, 3 months ago
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Obama seemed more prepared because he was more prepared. Just because he was using a bigger vocabulary doesnt mean anything he still spoke in a manner to where people who didnt understand "BIG WORDS" would understand. McCain on the other hand spoke as if he was speaking to one of his colleagues. Alot of americans dont have the education to follow along in such debates. There were points that Obama didnt argue, but overall he did a fine job. Just because he may not be "QUALIFIED" for the position doesnt mean he wont do well. Hell, we gave men like "BUSH" who had the qualifications the votes and look where that has gotten us.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 3 months ago
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Yes, rhea12381223121223!
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You hit on the head it! The only jabbering was Obama trying to be with of a larger vocabulary...but he is not....Remember Obama only 'speaks' but all his political views are intern views, and internal, while he does not have the slightest clue how to make it happen! This is not an on-the-job training in argumentation; this is Propeller and the real thing! Use Commone sense or it will us use! -
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sinophil491 year, 3 months ago
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rhea - That's funny. It is McCain who keeps speaking of all the old methods of dealing with problems. He still refuses to speak w/ any world leader. He still thinks only of military options for solving any and all problems.
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All these ideas are outdated, useless, and ultimately dangerous.
Did not talking to No Korea help dissuade them from making nuclear weapons and missiles?
Did not talking to Ahmadinejad dissuade him from advancing his nuclear program?
Did not talking to Castro topple him from power?
Did not talking to Hugo Chavez bankrupt Venezuela?
In fact, the greatest foreign policy breakthroughS have come from initiating surprising dialogues. Ronald Reagan is renowned for his rapport and support of Gorbachev. That resulted in the toppling of the Berlin Wall.
Nixon is acclaimed for travelling to China and tearing down the Bamboo curtain
Anwar Sadat is famous for his travelling to Israel to sign the peace treaty in 1977 has resulted in peace between Egypt and Israel for the past 3 decades.
USE COMMON SENSE. McCAIN IS NOT THE WAY TO GO
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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I didn't watch. McCain is a republican who voted with bush more than 90% of the time. He's voted against every bill to help veterans. He's voted for every piece of deregulation that crossed his desk. He hired the man ( whose deregulation bill was the straw that broke the camel's back with our economy) as a campaign advisor. He learned nothing from the savings and loan collapse, and interfered with its investigation (see Keating 5). He chose a running mate who would be devastating should she have to assume his role & who wouldn't have the intelligence to make decisions & would be easily manipulated by outside republican forces. He would be a disaster fixing the messes of george bush on the world stage. No need to watch debates. Obama has my vote. I judge the candidates on what they've done, not what they say. Obama is far above McCain on that score.
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brisco151 year, 3 months ago
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It always amazing to me how cheaply peoples' vote can be bought. You praise Obama for being "truthful" without knowing the facts about his background and his voting record. You are the same people who bought all Clinton's lies and think he was a good President - Take the time to check facts about his record on deregulation, on health care, etc. Now you cheer for another smooth talker with no experience at leading. This is our country - you people must get serious about holding our politicians to a higher standard and stop believing campaign garbage. Check out politifact.org and others. You might want to check on why and when this mess began and on whose watch.
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bluebirdwatcher11 year, 3 months ago
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What has Obama done? He has been groomed into the person you see. That is not the person inside the suit. In Illinois he voted present so he would not have a track record. He has no vision. He has not a clue! He can memorize and give a speech but when it comes to common sense I do not believe he has any.
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wynner1 year, 3 months ago
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Mccains demeanor was of an old man or a pit bull, hunched over, always looking at the floor. Never looking directly at Obama and never looking presidential. His answer rambled and repeated the same lines he continues to use in his campaigne speeches. I DONT WANT mCCAIN OR PALIN IN OUR EXECUTIVE BRANCH, NO WAY, NO HOW
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Dionys1 year, 3 months ago
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I'm not a fan of McCain because he's flip-flopped and changed his stances to fit what he thinks will get him elected with the Repugnant Con right.
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However I do want to point out that the reason he was 'hunched over' is because he's old and because he suffered a *lot* of damage to his body when he was tortured by the VietCong (or not tortured according to BushCo).
McCain used to be one of my favorite senators, frankly. He was the 'Maverick' he now claims to be but has since sold out to every Right-wing nutjob 'value' that I despise in this nation's divided state. He has embraced wedge issues that matter little in the grand scheme of America, embraced insane evagelicals where he used to be atheist or at least non-religious and chosen a partner who is the utter representation of every repressive, oppressive, violent, disgusting evangelical to run beside him for the VP slot.
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lewby54-591 year, 3 months ago
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Finally some one with the sense to see through the BS. You Go WYNNER!
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46patom471 year, 3 months ago
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According to Chaney recently, the VP is NOT a part of the Exec. Branch, so he's not subject to having to save his documents that the courts recently told him he can't destroy. So, I guess Palin wouldn't be in the exec branch either. Either way it IS NOT A PRETTY THOUGHT!!!!
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lewby54-591 year, 3 months ago
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McCain is dangerous to the United States. We don't need another general via election, we need Good judgement! McCain would have the American education system ranked 100 instead of only 17 in the world!
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wishforfuture1 year, 3 months ago
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rhea12483, It is too bad that you cannot understand when a speaker is making a specific point; you have to fall back on the old, common, typical complaint that the vocabulary is too big.
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It was beyond you. That's your problem.
Specific problems need solutions of specificity, including descriptions of those problems that are accurate, and plans of action that are NOT just Wal-Mart level preaching.
If you slept through your English and grammar classes, and rant about someone who did not, it is an embarrassment for you, not for Obama. -
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jube2b1 year, 3 months ago
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McCain looked like the asshole he is. He didn't have the balls to look Obama in the eye. That is something a liar cannot do, is look you in the eye. He is not for veterans and he is a Bush clone. Hopefully, America will get it right this time and put the right person in the White House..........Barrack Obama!
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Oh God! Did you see Sarah Palin's interviews with Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson? What a dingbat, can you just see that idiot taking over when McCain drops over! Lord help us! Just what we don't need.... an old fart and a airhead! -
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jube2b1 year, 3 months ago
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Anyone making less than $250,000.00 a year will get a tax break.McCain isout for the rich and not for the middle class. Barrack Obama will take care of the American people. Do you have 7 homes? I don't think so. McCain is a war monger and a thief. He is a doddering old man who is still trying to look like he has all his faculties. He makes so many blunders it is hard to keep count of them. Just like last night, he had to put the dogs on and tell everyone Ted Kennedy was in the hospital........WRONG ASSHOLE! Ted Kennedy was at home watching the debate. His doctors sent him home you dumbshit!
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beavith11 year, 3 months ago
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you're drinking the kool aid.
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under McCain, everyone gets a tax cut. the only difference with O is that he plays robin hood and steals from the rich to give to the poor. when you take away the incentive to work hard, you drag down the poor as you drag down the rich.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 3 months ago
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''WRONG ASSHOLE!'
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'''dumbshit!''
Dick Cheney -___ Cheney
LOL -Laugh audibly
amen -ah-men
shi-ite -McCain :"Sunni"
this is a test, this is a test of the propeller censor system. This is only a test
-----what the heck? somebody better nudge the censor-he sleepin
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pcknowledge1 year, 3 months ago
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Watching the debate, I don't understand why many people are under the assumption that McCain is better at foreign policy.
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With respect to Iraq, Obama is right. We should never have started the war. With respect to Iran, Obama is correct when he says Ahmedinejad may not be the most powerful person in Iran. Iran is actually run by the religious leaders who tell Ahmedinejad what decisions to make. McCain is wrong when he says Ahmedinejad is the most powerful figure in Iran. And those are just 2 examples.-
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NoWayMan1 year, 3 months ago
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pc, you hit the nail on the head. on all points.
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this idea of the right being better on foreign policy is nothing but fantasy. and it seems people forget McCain touring Iraq with a heavily-armed escort delusionally trying to sell us on the false point that downtown baghdad was somehow like a state fair in the midwest.
the guy simply is out of touch.
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reviewer1 year, 3 months ago
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I think Obama did a better job at fooling the American voters, so, yeah, he wins this round.
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So we have an authentic, but dated and myopic McCain vs. an "I have a bracelet too," textbook-savvy visionary...If America were a ship, I'd be wearing my life preserver about now. (shakes head)-
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sacmom31 year, 3 months ago
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You would THINK people would WANT a president that spoke in "big words" instead of like the blithering idiot we have now. The dumbing down of this country is just so sad to watch, it's like watching a relative with Alzheimer's slowly lose their mind.
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cushi1 year, 3 months ago
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And just because you've been in dozens of countries, doesn't mean whatever you say about them or their people is right!
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With a lousy track record like McCain's, he should NEVER admit to having traveled so broadly and learned so little! -
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 3 months ago
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Tempestuous, Cumulous Cloud15,
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the mere presentation and augmentation of a vocabulary of bon mot y belle lettres should not happenstance upon a welt-anschauung
of distress to such a nebulous (pun intented) entitation such as yourself.
That, vis-a-vis the Olympian Obama we recieve great grand words played upon an accordian of thunder, does not sublimate to any ulterior metamorphosis of our good opinion of him.
So there!
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cloud151 year, 3 months ago
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I didn't watch the debate but I've been reading through the transcript, which I think is a better way to understand what the candidates were saying. If you watch it sometimes you get distracted by how someone sounds and miss their points.
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From what I've read so far I would put McCain ahead by a little. So far he has come across as more knowledgeable especially on foreign policy. He can pull out the knowledge he learned through his own experiences when it comes to foreign policy while Obama can't. Both of them are giving good counter arguments and throwing in some hard hitting one liners. The reason I have McCain ahead as of now is because it seems hes had Obama on his heels more often than McCain has been on his.
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Bacalao1 year, 3 months ago
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I grew up on the love of the common people(welfare). I made a promise to myself long before I became a man. That was that I would NEVER be a burden on society. I am not just voting for Obama but against McCain. The reason "Because I love my country so much that I would gladly put it before myself" I would gladly give all that I have/am for the greater good of my nation. How many other would say the same? How many would really mean it? How many would rather others suffer so they could prosper? I know of many who have they re-upped their enlistment. I know of other who would gladly send someone else's child to war. -
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srussfea1 year, 3 months ago
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Unless you make a lot of money, McCain never spoke to you during this debate. Obama repeatedly spoke to the middle class, the same people who have been abandoned by Bush policies for 8 years. It is difficult to understand how any struggling American could ever relate to Bush/McCain. The debate cemented that.
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epiphannyy1 year, 3 months ago
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I was a little disappointed myself. I don't think there was a clear winner in this.
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Obama failed to make a number of points against McCain when opportunities arose. For example, when asked what they would be willing to cut from their budgets in order to pay for the bailouts being currently proposed, McCain responded that he'd cut everything "except military and veteran benefits"...Obama should have pounced on that because McCain has voted down EVERY veteran benefit package that has crossed his path. There were at least a half-dozen missed opportunities like that.
On the other hand, I thought McCain did better than expected. He didn't appear to be as scattered on issues as he has in the the past. Although, his demeanor came across as a cranky old man as he refused to look at Obama when he spoke, and chose condescension over congeniality when addressing the issues.
All in all, I saw this debate as a tie. A few negative points for Obama because he didn't take the easy opportunities to shut down McCain on issues left wide open to him. And a few positive points for McCain for his overall grasp of the issues, coming off a week of total disintegration. He had no where to go but up, while Obama lost a little ground. Going into the debate, I think Obama had a clear lead, and now it seems to be neck and neck again.
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cushi1 year, 3 months ago
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I do think that Obama is such a compassionate person at heart that he found it difficult to crush the old man! He certainly could have trounced him on that, but it seems to me that he only tagged him a couple of times when McCain really got out of hand with his lies and garbage!
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I think he will do what he must, when pushed to the point, but that he really has no taste for blood and would just as soon not have to go there. I think he wants to believe that people like John McCain are well intentioned, so he keeps giving him a chance to do the right thing. However, he will have to accept that John McCain is ruthless and that he lies not by accident, but by intent and malice of forethought! Obama must accept that fact and act accordingly. Old or not, a snake is a snake! -
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Dunamis1 year, 3 months ago
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I watched the debate, I am a McCain / Palin supporter, but if I did NOT know anything about Obama and his past associations with William Ayers & the rascist, Amerca hating Jeremiah Wright, I would possibly vote for Obama because he did come off like someone who cares for the American people . Unfortunately he and his wife are a radical socialists, therefore I will NEVER vote for Barack Hussein Obama .
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megatherion1 year, 3 months ago
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Have you ever heard of the keating 5 scandal?
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mcsame should have been drummed out of politics for abuse of power. hmmmm, kinda like palin. Great we could have a president and a V.P. who have loads of abuse of power experience. LOL. of course after dubya and his crew mcsame and palin would be a relief......if only they didnt intend to "Stay the course". -
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era1 year, 3 months ago
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Do Palins church associates trouble you at all? Having a witch doctor lay hands on you to help you get elected govenor.
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Praying away the Gay and telling Jews they're responsible for terrorism because they haven't accepeted Jesus
Obama had a professional relationship with Ayers.He was only 8 when Ayers became infamous.Obama has repeatedly rejected Rev.Wrights radical views.
Since when do we blame someone for what another says or does.
Judge a person by the content of their individual character.
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quackpot1 year, 3 months ago
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What a load of B.S.
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NOTHING was said of those issues in the debate - perhaps you heard them from Rush?
You are welcome to cast you vote for more debt, more U.S. dependence on other countries, more pentagon dollars spent that offer no advantage to the U.S.A. (e.g. Bush's "star wars"), more money going to bail out the already filthy rich. -
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cushi1 year, 3 months ago
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Do you not realize that Obama was only 8 years old when Ayers was involved with that radical group? Obama had NO dealings with him in that regard and is NOT a close associate of Ayers, that is a flat out lie and guilt by the flimsiest association! I also know that Obama's views are NOT that of Rev. Wright, and that he is an independent thinker. He may not have wanted to accept that the same man who introduced him and his family to Christianity could become so embittered and espouse such vitrolic rhetoric. His sense of gratitude and loyalty probably made him reluctant to believe that Rev. Wright had become so bitter and angry, but people do change over the years.
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Obama comes off like someone who cares for the American people because he does!! It's really just that simple. You say that he and his wife are "radical" socialists. I would really like to know how you define that. My observation is that America is already a socialist country. The question is: Who benefits most from the system? The haves or the have nots! Our government has NO problem whatsoever bailing out the large corporations and keeping them solvent, but to feed the hungry, clothing the naked, care for the sick and dying?? Somehow, those things are looked upon as anathema. Do you not see something wrong with that picture??
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escort67681 year, 3 months ago
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Senator Obama looked as he always looked. He always has the same look. I judge the honesty of an individual by the look in his eyes. His eyes are empty. He is an excellent speaker. But he has always been a great speaker. He always says that he was against something, he co-sponsored something etc. But the problem is, he hasn't voted for or against anything. Right now he is drawing pay from the taxpayers and hasn't shown up for work in two years. No! Obama did not look or act Presidential.
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wishforfuture1 year, 3 months ago
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You have not looked at Obama's voting record; you are unable to cite it specifically.
He voted numerous times as IL senator. He has "shown up" to events for his constituents in IL, most remarkably after the NIU shooting. He is earning his pay; he is thoughtful. READ HIS BOOKS. Unlike the other candidates who need speechwriters, Senator Obama writes his own.
Perhaps your work as an escort keeps you too busy to read, and it is your own eyes looked into each time you look into a mirror that are empty.
Seek more education and better your own life; you will then recognize depth when you see it instead of superimposing your own qualities on Obama. -
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 3 months ago
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Escort6849 said:
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I judge the honesty of an individual by the look in his eyes
That is in a nutshell, what is wrong with America.
The strange and lazy belief that one can judge a man, by the steady gaze of sincerity in his eyes;
by the firmness of his handshake,
the bearing of his shoulders,
the confident way he spins words and claps you on the back.
It is spiritual fraud; because you are not looking inwards, but at the surface;
prefering actors and liars who have no shame in their eyes.
Sorry; the only way to judge someones heart, is by their actions.
By their fruit you shall know them
Obama: this November.
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burrell001 year, 3 months ago
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Senator Obama WON THE FIRST DEBATE HANDS DOWN, ALL YOU HEARD Mcbush do was attack Obama. All McBush Care about are Making sure his Rich Friends say rich and keeping us in a 100 year war.How can A man care about the people of this country when asked a simple question , how much is Gas , he replied i dont know I dont pump my own gas. Or how many home do you have McBush , he could not say well he has 11 , and 3 are in the same building , with a payroll of 500 k for his homes, so what can man offer the working class man or woman , not one thing his not in touch with me or you. His not losing his home , His not out of a job his RICH. Now you tell me What McBush can do for you.
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ANIEUP1 year, 3 months ago
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******* in the wind...what's the point of the debates at all? Our votes (popular votes) don't count anyway! The delegates are going to elect the president via the electoral vote and it's their opinions i.e., ideas and attitudes that will elect our next president. I think I'll stay at home on election day and watch the theatrics.
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era1 year, 3 months ago
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don't cop out,Anieup.
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I know its not a perfect system and it needs fixing.
Try being part of the solution instead of the problem
This is the most IMPORTANT ELECTION in our lifetimes.
If you feel anything at all or care about the future,then vote
voting is a privilage many don't have.
It's a responsibilitiy you should accept.
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epiphannyy1 year, 3 months ago
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In my opinion, those who don't vote, forfeit their right to a voice an opinion on the condition of the country or how things are done. In other words, you get what you deserve and have absolutely no right to complain about it one way or another.
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The minimal responsibility we, as American citizens, have is the vote. It is what our forefathers died for. It is what the suffragettes and civil rights marchers sacrificed for. The benefits of American citizenship didn't come for free, but today we have so many people willing to throw away that sacrifice made for them like it counts for nothing. I have zero tolerance for anyone unwilling to do the MINIMUM, for any reason. It is inexcusable, and Americans who waste the sacrifices made for them by those who came before them are a complete and utter embarrassment...not only to themselves, but to their country.
Bottom line.........I say, vote or keep your mouth shut. That's where I stand.
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lstaley1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama has made the statement many time that he is against war. Last night he made a statement that he would blow away Pakistan. Doesn't sound like he's against war to me. He talks out both sides of his mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!! McCain/Palin '08
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