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Posted By capj71 1 year, 3 months ago in NewsIn a bit of farfetched delusional spinning, the McCain campaign is blaming Barack Obama for the House ’s failure to pass the $700 billion bailout package. “This bill failed because Barack Obama and the Democrats put politics ahead of country,” said McCain advisor Douglas Holtz-Eakin. However, no amount of spinning can save McCain now.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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McCain also lied about earmarks. He has a few at least.
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But worse than the earmarks (and lies about them), is McCain tendency to give away entitlements to special interests. His stealing of private Dinah land rights to benefit one of his buddies is just one example. His unprecedented attempts to interfere with the FCC ruling over his mistress`s employer is another.
McCain voted 95% with Bush, the worst deficit spender in the history of our country. This man has no right to question anybody else`s spending.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 3 months ago
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People are to realize if Obama start calling an Older white man names it could backfire the way he has handle McCain is the only way he can. We like to think our nation is more advance in our cultural positions than it is.
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As much as most of you don't want McCain as president you are not going to take kindly to your grandfather being called names by the likes of Obama!
As much as we the younger generation would love to see Obama hammer McCain we must take into consideration our parents generation, that would not sit well with them.-
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RedRiverJ1 year, 3 months ago
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Blackacereturn, you want a list on McCain, list away. I know McCain has done wrong things, hel* they all do. If anyone is looking for the word HONEST in politics, well, you are going to have a long search. My point is Obama isn't a saint, he is not the savior of the world that is going to take money from the rich and give to the poor like Robin Hood and make all things better. It's not going to happen. The economy is NOT JUST Obama's fault. The ENTIRE fault falls upon all the members of the senate and house that aren't doing their jobs starting with Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.
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Obama has had little to do with it, he's never there. He's been a senator for 3 years, 2 of those he's spent running for President.
I live in his state, it's a mess. He has done little to bring money to Illinois. We are 14th in sending money to Washington and 48th in getting any back for our state. Sounds like a couple senators aren't doing their jobs, Durbin and Obama along with the entire democratic legislature of Illinois.
We know Obama all to well. He is a very grand speaker, he is good with and I quote him "JUST WORDS', but he is a product of the corrupt Chicago Political Machine, which makes him another politician. He cares for you NOW because you can get him elected. If he does win, you will see how fast we all become a number to Mr. Obama.
Find you list on McCain, won't both me. He isn't my Messiah, he is a politician, but he is some what better than Obama. At least he shows up for his job.-
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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In the meantime, when you throw Ayres, Resko, Wright, yada in the mix with Obama, why don't you stop to think of all the scum that Mc has surrounded himself with before making your comments.
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Just like you know that Mc is no saint, we know Obama isn't, but he's not been around long enough to become as jaded and greedy as Mc and some of his ilk has either.-
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RedRiverJ1 year, 3 months ago
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Thanks for reminding me about Tony Rezko, Not2Needy! Greedy? How about a land deal with slum lord Tony Rezko where he got a sweetheart deal on property next door to his nice very expensive home in Chicago? He handled millions of dollars through the Chicago Annenberg Challenge that he passed to his friend William Ayers, you remember him the terrorist that bombed the pentagon? Well that money kinda disappeared into thin air because there was NO change in the educational results of the schools that he supposedly help. OH yes and let's not for get about the 900 MILLION dollars that he appropriates for his friends and pet projects. Like I said I live in his state we know him all too well.
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tiredofwhiners1 year, 3 months ago
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McCain was exonerated and had nothing to do with the S scandal. Ask Special Counsel for the Ethics Committee Robert Bennett (a Dem) who investigated McCain for 1-1/2 years and tried to get the Dems to release him from the investigation. Where do you get your info? The Daily Kos or Kausfiles or MSNBC's Olberman? Repeating this lib lie over and over will never make it true.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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McCain was the worst of the Keating Five, taking the most money and gifts while giving the most back in the form of taxpayer and/or consumer funded entitlements to Keating.
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McCain also illegally hid those gifts and vacations from the IRS. He should have been in jail but he went on a I`m a POW so I have a Get-Out-Of-Jail -Card tour. He also paid back the IRS before they arrested his arse using his wife`s money. If it were you or me and not McElite, we would be in jail as a tax fraud and for breaking all the other laws.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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You rant about Obama spending too long, 2 years, running for President while supporting McCain who has been running for president for 20 years. McCain needs to get a job, a real job and stop living off others for the first time in his life. No wonder the guy is so out of touch and thinks money grows on trees and the rich are the only ones who matter.
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I`ve lived in both Obama and McCain`s states, and McCain`s is much worse off.
Also, you cons know that Obama won against the so-called Chicago machine just like he won against the Clinton machine. He`s formidable and it scares you because you are party first, country last. He is also not part of the left-wing establishment nor the right-wing establishment (where McCain has his entire head buried), and this gives middle-class America hope!
Oh, you need to do some homework. McCain has the worst absentee record in the entire Senate! And even when he does bother to get off his elite butt his brain is still off; he votes 95% with Bush. He`s a weak capitulator who surrendered to the Far Right on everything from Taxes to Torture. He`s a hollow-shell of a man.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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RRJ, I hear a lot about Ayres, Wright, etc etc, but i never hear you all tell the stories of McCain's close ties to Keating, Joe Bonano, Hagee, Hensley, etc etc.. Mc didn't get where he is today being a choir boy sweetie, he sold his soul a long time ago.
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RedRiverJ1 year, 3 months ago
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Thanks N2N, Blackacereturn was wanting a list on McCain, you saved me a lot of googling. I don't attach the allegiance to McCain that many seem to attach to Obama. McCain isn't perfect, he has made mistakes, he has done wrong things, but he hasn't associated with a known terrorist that actually bombed Pentagon and said he didn't do enough. Another issue with Obama that is troubling to me is Rev. Wright who preaches Black Liberation Theology, that is nothing but hate speech against whites and has a marxist socialist economic foundations. McCain is a lot of things, good and bad but you can't credit that to him.
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Obama is NOT endorsed by the communist party but they speak extremely favorable toward him. That along with the associations of questionable individuals make me wonder just who is pulling his strings.
Since Obama is from my state at the beginning of the elections I thought I'd give him a look. Now that I know what I know I am glad I did.
http://cpusa.org/article/articleview/975/1/147/
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Blackacereturn1 year, 3 months ago
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Red something tells me that you knoe that Obama and Ayers were not friends, they sat on a board together, Ayers were there 4 years or so before Obama. It was a situation where Obama was trying to help the the less fortunate I can care less who sat there it was a good thing for those people that needed it.
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SENATOR OBAMA IS NOT THE OLD SCHOOL OF NASTY POLITICIANS. IF HE EVER REACTS NEGATIVELY, IT WILL BE TEMPORARY AND UNDER EXTREME DURESS.MOST LIKELY IT WONT HAPPEN.
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HE KNOWS HOW TO STAY COOL. AND IT IS NECESSARY TRAINING BECAUSE SOME FOREIGN LEADERS ARE VERY RUDE AND DISLIKE US AMERICANS. -
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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How does anyone know that Mc has been loyal to America for a lifetime? That's BS!
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For all anyone knows, McCain just may HATE America for allowing him to be a POW for over 5 years and is plotting his revenge. No one knows what's going on in the minds of other people, not even your own family members, let alone a politician.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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Nobody has burned Vets and the military more than Exxon John.
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* voted against troop funding
* voted five times against VA funding (socialized medical care is good enough for Johnie but not our new vets returning from Johnnie`s favorite political stunt-land of iraq)
* voted against armor for the troops
* was against the New GI bill saying it gave too much opportunity to the people who risk their lives for our country
* voted against equal time at home as in combat so our troops could keep up some resemblance to a family and home life
No, McCain talks one talk, and walks a completely different walk.
Obama on the other hand wants to bring our troops home in a reasonable and safe way. He wants to strengthen the New Awakening which is doing a great job of kicking AQ out of everywhere but Bagdhad where our troops are doing a great job of kicking AQ out. He also wants to give our troops the healthcare and educational opportunities they were promised and have earned.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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Ever met an honest Republican? Me neither, and I sure have not seen one on TV for a few decades. McCain is a product of Keating Five and the Arizona mafia. Even before that he dumped the mother of his three children the first chance he got to upgrade his spouse.
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I think McCain is just afraid of having to actually work to earn a living. He has always lived off somebody else.
Obama is a self-made man from very humble beginnings. He is living the American dream.
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EHS1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama has too many lives going with questionable friends. Perhaps he could put back some of the money he received from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Droughts, fires, Mississippi floods, many hurricanes , 911 Attack, greedy CEO"S, misjudgment on financing economc risk groups are all responsible. Think about America's future instead of the same nonsense of blame. The "bailout or loan" needs to be rewritten to stop socialist governing. Senseless bickering is childish and divisive. America needs unity.
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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Obama only received $6000 from the Freddie and Fannie PAC. The rest were donations from EMPLOYEES.
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How 'bout if McCain Campaign Manager Rick Davis gave back some of the $2 million he received as a paid lobbyist for Freddie and Fannie? How 'bout that? -
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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John McCain is a former POW. This in no way marks him as ready to lead the nation. He can recite all the things he went through and I give him honor for that.
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None of it has perpared him to run a nation so fouled up by his predecessor that it will be a miracle if we are not in a full fledged depression soon.
The next president has to have more going for him than following the disastrous and foolish financial plans of the Bush terrorist group. Thats right I'm calling Bush a terrorist. He has lead this country into a war that was waged on lies and greed for oil.
If McCain can't see that he needs to re-examine his sight and common sense. Bush is the reason the bill failed. The Republicans can't distance themselves from him fast enough to contain the damage he has caused their faltering party and its' once strong base.
Look in the mirror John. Your ridculous posturing and stunt has burned you again.
McCain just doesn't get it. The American people are fed up with pampering of the wealthy investors at the cost of the tax payer.
It is time for a change in Washington, a big change !!!!!!! One that boots out the old greedy bastar*s and gives some of the younger and fresher people a chance to clean up the debris.
So long McCain !!!!! Thanks for your service and your bravery while being held prisoner.
But America does not want to be held prisoner for four more years of the same old sh*t.
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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But on January 13 of this year, you pointed out here on Propeller John McCain's "abysmal record on immigration" (one of the main reasons you cons didn't want McCain to be your Presidential nominee). Now, after you and your fellow cons assembled for your thoroughly disgusting daily anti-McCain gangbangs (a scary thought no matter how you look at it) all is forgiven. Why? Is it not because you're desperate and fearful cons who want to keep anyone who calls himself a Republican in the White House, Red?I'm fairly sure that's why. And what does this say about the average con's credibility and integrity? Exactly... It's pretty much non-existent, right? ;-(
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RedRiverJ1 year, 3 months ago
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you said Is it not because you're desperate and fearful cons who want to keep anyone who calls himself a Republican in the White House, Red? I'm fairly sure that's why.
I hope you have another job, being a physic isn't going to make you wealthy.
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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"I vote for person not party. Right now I am very disgusted with the crooks on both sides of the aisle. Greed is why we are where we are and it's NOT one party's fault, there is blame on both sides."
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Of course you support the person. What else would you say? Puh-leeze. You despise McCain and we both know it. I don't have to be a psychic to remember what cons have been saying about McCain since Bush told them what to think in 2000. I don't need to read your tiny minds to remember that McCain's campaign flatlined last year and that wingnuts wanted to burn him at the stake for his immigration platform support alone--up until the time mainstream cons chose him as the GOP nominee, that is. Who do you think you're talking to? Do you actually think no one remembers what lying, opportunistic cons were saying about McCain before you realized he was the best your party has to offer?
And I don't believe you're disgusted with the crooks "on both sides" for one hot second. Why do cons and faux Independents always spout that lie? You don't demonstrate any such parity in your posts and I DON'T BELIEVE YOU so stop wasting your keystrokes lying (when we both know you're clearly biased).
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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AMEN cbg!
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You know what? I don't know how people who voted for Bush could have expected anything other than exactly what's happened!!! Look at his record. He bankrupted an oil company, he bankrupted the Texas Rangers, he was AWOL most of the time he was in the reserves, and he would have probably flunked out of college had it not been for his dad's money!!! He's been on drugs, and an drunk.. He's been a total screw up since he was old enough to walk, yet there are people who not only thought he was capable of running this country, SOME of them still think it!
I will give Bush credit for being shrewd. Everytime he screwed up, he came out on top, it was always other people who lost, and now it's parts of the whole world that's losing, but i would just about guarantee you that he is walking away with several billion he didn't go in with.
I will also say that in no way did Bush think this was going to happen on his watch.. OH he knew it was going to happen, but he was hoping it would happen to the next president, and he knew after the way he had screwed up it would more than likely be a Libbie.. I think this backfired on him, i think he planned to be firmly ensconced in Paraguay or some tropical isle laughing his ass off at us when the sh!t hit the fan here, but Karma came back to bite him in the ass this time.-
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dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
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With the clown we have in the White House now and all th eillegal activities surrounding him it wouldnt surprise me to see him skip the inaugural for Obama and flee the country to avoid prosecution when Obama investigates all the illegal activities Bush is involved in. don't expect
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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Directly on top of the largest aquifer in the world.. so when the rest of the world is out of water, he can sell water! Or hoard it for himself, but i doubt that he will still be here at that point!
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He could fall in a pile of horse sh!t and come out smelling like a rose, but he leaves a trail of tears in his wake.
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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"You know what? I don't know how people who voted for Bush could have expected anything other than exactly what's happened!!! "
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--Cons will look to blame everyone except THEMSELVES when it comes to our country's problems. I LOL every time I hear these people try to blame Obama or Pelosi or Barney Frank or Chris Dodd (or whichever person from the left Rush told them was responsible for all their pains and ills that day on his show) for this horror show of an administration's tragically flawed judgement.
These sad, silly, ignorant and unbelievably poorly educated people TWICE voted for Bush after he took us from a budget surplus and PLUNGED us into an abyss of debt and dishonor. Yet they still revere him. Their lying, murderous hero told his nutcase cult followers that they could have TWO wars which they didn't have to fight in or pay for AND that they could still have cheap gas and tax cuts on top of this. --And wingjobbers sat back and LAPPED all of Bush's lies and other crap up. Now they're wailing and swooning in self-pity trying to blame those on the left because cons have extremely poor judgement and critical thinking skills! Unbelievable. Cons? Don't blame others because you're shockingly poorly educated. That's no sane person's idea of accepting personal responsibility. Get serious. ;-(-
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german-shepard1 year, 3 months ago
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Wolfie,
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I see you are learning by reading the lib's comments. You just take what an intelligent person has said about the pseudo-cons and try to make it apply to the libs. Trouble is, it doesn't work and you just come out looking even more stupid than you might be.
G.S.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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What has McCain done but screw people, and he has been on the campaign trail for over a dozen years.
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Besides, it is the Bush/McCain economic policies that have already run this country int o the ground. Vote McCain if you like seeing the bottom of a toilet.
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tschrnywolf1 year, 3 months ago
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EXCELENT POINT. YES, WARRIORS SELDOM MAKE GOOD PRESIDENTS. TOO AGGRESSIVE AND OFTEN CARELESS. THEY LEAD THEIR COUNTRIES TO RUIN.
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ACTUALLY, HIS PLANE CRASH DENOTED LACK OFCAPACITY. THE MACHINE WAS HIGHLY MANURAVLE. CHUCK YEAGER WOULD HAVE AVOIDED THE MISSILE. PERHAPS THAT EXPLAINS WHY MCCAIN LEFT THE ARMY.BASIC LACK OF SKILL.
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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Well, it was a known fact that Mc was a terrible pilot! Many who knew him said he had no business flying a plane at all. He lost 5 planes, was known to be a party animal, a womanizer and 4th from the last in his class of 899! want the link?
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EHS1 year, 3 months ago
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Did you know? The same night as the debate, Iran's President Admadinejad was using the New York hotel, owned by the family of' Obama'scampaign, national fundraiser finance, chairperson, Penny Pritzker. He taunted McCain, saying couldn't he do two things at the same time? Obama can, for he can play Muslims and Christians deceptively. He does in his books and friendships. Wondering if Rashid Khalidi, Palestinian Arab, Obama fundraiser of 2000 was there along with former terrorist Wm. Ayers. At least they convicted another friend Tony Rezko. They tried Nihad Awad, director of the Islamic council in a conspiracy for funding Palestinian terrorism, Hamas. These guys are too clever. Admidinejad used his visit as a platform to unite Muslims , "to prepare for the great war, so as to completely wipe out the Zionist regime...." Israel. I'm not Jewish but I've witnessed their terrorism in the Tel Aviv airport. You can't compromise with evil for it will overtake you. That is what Obama is trying to do. His book , Audacity of Hope declares that when "political winds shift", he will stand with the Muslims. But he says he believes in Jesus. So do the demons but at least they tremble. Maybe Obama, advisor Criss Dodd, and Frank Fanes could give back millions received from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Wouldn't that show he cared for the middle class America?
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EHS1 year, 3 months ago
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Did you know that at the same time of the debate, Iran's President Ahmadinejad was blasting Israel using the platform at New York's Hyatt hotel, which is owned by the family of Obama campaign;s national finance chairperson, Penny Pristzker. He taunted McCain that he couldn't do two things at once. He arrogantly knows how to play Muslims and Christians. Islamic director Nihad Awad was there. He had been formerly tried in Palestinian fundraising for Hamas. Wonder if all his Chicago friends, Wm. Ayers, former terrorist, Rashid Khalidi,Palestinian Arab, 2000 fundraiser, history of anti Israel speeches. At. least they convicted Tony Rezko. Ahmadinejad called the Muslim world"to prepare for the great war, so as to completely wipe out the Zionist regime...." He said, "Israel was like an old rotten tree to be taken down in a storm." I'm not Jewish, but visited Israel after the terrorists bombed the Tel Aviv airport. You can't compromise with evil for it will overtake you. Perhaps, Obama, his advisor Criss Dodd, and Frank Ranes could give back the millions received from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to show he really cared about America. Have you people studied this man's family history as well. His socialist cousin, trained in E. Germany but living in Kenya lost the presidency Dec. 07 causing the country much distress. Obama went to Germany but reporters said he missed the wounded soldiers. I wonder if the cousin was at the rally in New York?
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amervtrn1 year, 3 months ago
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This is supposed to be an election for president not PR rock star. You are hiring the CEO of Firm USA. Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy?
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If you complain about Palin's experience to be VP candidate where does that leave Obama? She has more real experience than he has. Or is Obama really running as Biden's VP?
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Progressive1 year, 3 months ago
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"Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy?"
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McCain "a manager"? Like he manages to excuse the lack of any difference between him and Bush by blaming Obama for the economic crises? Like he manages his campaign by hiring 177 lobbyists? Like he managed to dump his disabled wife for a younger heiress? Like he managed to squeeze through 26 years in the Senate by beating his POW story to death? Like he managed to gin up the GOP base by selecting a fundy dominionist beauty queen as a running mate? -
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Blackacereturn1 year, 3 months ago
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I have to tell you a maverick is not a president make...With the 3 branches of government if you as the president decides to go off on your own you will **** someone off and nothing will get done. McCain is not the person to make the changes that are necessary to get our nation back in shape. We cannot run the risk of having more of this for another 4 years.
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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You are hiring the CEO of Firm USA. Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy?>>>>
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To put Obama in the same classification of a 'stockboy' is...well....stupid. A Constitutional scholar, a civil rights advocate & attorney, a State Senator, a US Senator is hardly a 'stockboy.'
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beavith11 year, 3 months ago
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it pains me to say it, but you're right. its a bad analogy.
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the analogy shouldn't be between hiring an experienced CEO to run Company USA,and a stockboy, it should be between an experienced CEO and a socialist organizer to run Company USA.
i watched Fox's O Reilly last night -i'm not a regular. i watch it when i'm channel surfing maybe once a month, but he made an interesting point.
with the economy clearly tanking thanks to Wall Street, personal income will be off, so there's less rich people to rob FOR less money and capital gains have taken a whack that will provide income tax deductable losses for years, so capital gain taxes will be tiny. the economy will shrink, so there won't be any windfall profits from the oil companies
how's O gonna pay for his socialist pipe dreams? once you've tapped the rich, and Big Oil, who's left?
one guess. YOU. and its going to be higher taxes in an economy wracked by recession. its always GOOD to raise taxes during a recession. every socialist wingnut knows that!
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willottica1 year, 3 months ago
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If you want to make a comparison, why not compare actually experience. McCain has never been an executive (i.e. President or Governor) therefore at best he's upper management, not a CEO. And his stint in upper management is much longer (26 years without a promotion) compared to the new and up-and-coming opponent who is ALSO in upper management, and has only been there for 3 years, but in that time has managed to impress a lot of people.
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So, to compare apples to apples, who do you want to run the company, the Upper Manager who has been in his position for 26 years, and angered a lot of his fellow Upper Managers (and employees) while in the position, or the up-and-coming Upper Manager who has impressed many in a very short time?
As for Palin, you can rightly use her as a CEO in your comparison. But make sure you acknowledge that she's like the CEO of a mom-and-pop shop vs. the Upper Management experience of BOTH presidential candidates in a multi-national corporation with 500 times as many employees. -
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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"how's O gonna pay for his socialist pipe dreams? once you've tapped the rich, and Big Oil, who's left?"
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--But beavs? What you cons so often sidestep is the fact that you did not ONCE ask how Bush was going to pay for any of his excesses (including multiple wars and multiple unprecedented war time tax cuts for the least needy Americans) so what on EARTH makes you think we care what you think is excessive spending on the Democrats' side? You morons re-elected Bush AFTER he obliterated a budget surplus, beavs. WE DO NOT CARE what a con thinks is excessive taxation. Get that through your thick, and unbelievably small con skulls. Your opinions on fiscal responsibility and personal accountability are 100% IRRELEVANT. That's just a reality you must come to accept. I'm so very sorry to break this to cons. ;-(
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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Then what does it say about cons that you're more excited about the prospect of having Palin running our country and looking for Putin to rear his head than you are your actual Presidential candidate? Exactly...It says something is very scary and warped in your reasoning and logic and that this is probably a good election year for you people to stay the hell home and carefully review the horrific impact on our country of your extremely bizarre decision making over the last 8 years.
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tschrnywolf1 year, 3 months ago
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WORKING IN CONGRESS AND IN THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE HAS TRAINED SENATOR OBAMA. INSTEAD SAARA PALIN HAS NEVER HANDLED FOREIGN POLICY.
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tiredofwhiners1 year, 3 months ago
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Actually, it's a state she governs, Alaska, the largest state and one of the most important in oil and other resources. It is primitive like the other states were when they were sane and prosperous. I prefer governor's experience over senators. But we have no choice in this election.
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Obama has been trained? You mean for the 143 days he actually was there?
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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You can't possibly be serious. McCain is a weasel. After he loses in November, he and his fellow burrow mates Bush, Cheney, Joe Lieberman and Karl Rove all should go find the nearest hole in the ground and climb all over one another and sweat and squeal in delight like the farm animals they are. I can't believe cons are actually still allowed to vote. ;-(
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sanwash1 year, 3 months ago
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McCain was referred to as honorable as it relates to his service during the war as a POW. Since that time and especially during the champaign, he has been anything but. It is clear that some damage has been done because of it and it's getting worse with age. McCain thinks the world owes him something. He is not the only American POW. We honor all our veterans including those who have loss their lives. Do you think some of them would like to have been President. Now unfortunately all they could ever be are dead Presidents, if this was possible. McCain is for McCain because if he was truely about country he would have accepted the fact that he is too old to handle the stress of the Oval office and he would have selected a better running mate to assist him in running the country if he were to be elected.
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antgne1 year, 3 months ago
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Look, people have put Obama in an impossible situation. Obama has been the most adult of them all. He has focused on the ISSUES; remember them? It's not about blame here you 12 year olds. It's about repairing the damage that has been done. Then putting the laws back in place that keep corporate America/Wall Street from screwing all of us. Now grow up people.
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Natureboy1 year, 3 months ago
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You are so right. If Obama were responsible for scuttling the "bailout," as they tried to frame the legislative looting of the treasury, then I would say "Kudos to Obama."
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As it is, both sides of the aisle were ready to serve their corporate masters by ripping off the working class for an astronomical figure; it was US who made our displeasure so well known that many in the house figured a "yes" vote would end their careers.-
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beavith11 year, 3 months ago
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moron. Bush was working with the democrats on this.
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if the dems wanted this bad enough, they could've passed it without any republican support.
of course, that would expose them as the thieving SOBs that they are. coming up before an election, that would get them killed at the polls.
how about that? they can't even support something that they think is necessary.
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Natureboy1 year, 3 months ago
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Plenty of blame to go around. As legislation goes, the biggest eggsuckers are always "bipartisan." Take a look at the Banking and Finance committee, Repugs and Dims alike, united for the common purpose of taking us to the cleaners and making the rich richer.
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jhicks88721 year, 3 months ago
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Obama did not scuttle the bill as he understands the nature of the beast for the American people. McCain took credit for getting the bill passed sic. Leadership is leading by example, and the Republicans did not vote for the bill and blamed everyone other than themselves, and when the bill falied McCain blamed Obama. Do we need four more years of George Bush, John McCain and Dick Cheney
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beavith11 year, 3 months ago
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please do some research and don't mouth what your masters tell you.
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i do agree that leadership is by example and the dems showed none.
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jhicks88721 year, 3 months ago
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Newt Gringrich told John McCain how to win the White House. Tie the passage of the bill to George Bush and the Democrats. I AM A BUSINESS MAN WITH A HUGE PAYROLL. I AM THE MASTER, AND I AM EXPERIENCING WHAT THESE IDOITS HAVE DONE TO AMERICA. I THINK YOU NEED TO DO RESEARCH. LAST TIME I CHECK GEORGE BUSH, DICK CHENEY, JOHN MCCAIN ARE REPUBLICANS!
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redbeard472291 year, 3 months ago
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Read this WashingtonPost article on the financial mess and argue over fact, not opinions. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...
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dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
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Great article. Its amazing the REPUBLICANS are now trying to say it was Obama who scuttled the bailout when a few hours ago he was not taking it seriously by running to DC (altho to a REPUBLICAN "running" to DC means a television appearance and then the next day a speech in New York). As the article points out the problem started in 2000, with a REPUBLICAN Congress. It is interesting to note the Repubs defeated this over the inclusion of oversight. Lets not watch how the money is spent by the same group who's financial acumen made this mess.
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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Obama didn't 'make money' from Fannie and Freddie, Their EMPLOYEES donated to his campaign.
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On the other hand, McCain's Campaign Manager was paid $2 million over 5 years as a paid lobbyist for Fannie and Freddie, pushing for greater deregulation.
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BLO2L1 year, 3 months ago
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It should be noted that Phil Gramm, a McCain advisor, attached an ammendment to the 2000 budget that removed oversite, among other things. of the finacial markets that created the mess we are in today. So am I to believe the republicans are still trying to keep oversite out of the financial markets?
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Klarissa1 year, 3 months ago
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And you want your money to got to this group?
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The Democrats put in a section to give ACORN money from the bailout.
Latest on ACORN:
WASHINGTON, Sept 25, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- James Terry, Chief Public Advocate for the Consumers Rights League, today testified at a joint House Administration and House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on "Federal, State and Local Efforts to Prepare for the General 2008 Election,
" where he highlighted "corruption at every level of ACORN including embezzlement, cover-ups, misuse of taxpayer funds and voter fraud."
An excerpt of his testimony follows:
James Terry, Chief Public Advocate, Consumers Rights League:
"ACORN routinely says it will clean up its act. Yet, given its decade-long history of voter fraud, embezzlement, and misuses of taxpayer funds, ACORN's pattern of fraud can no longer be dismissed as a series of 'unfortunate events.'
"Here are the most important questions right now: We know about the thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registration cards turned in by ACORN and caught by officials.
But given the size of ACORN's efforts and the fact that the abuses appear to be systemic, we believe it is fair to question how many more fraudulent registrations have not been discovered,
Furthermore, as this mega organization with a decades long history of violating the law is turned to get out the vote efforts, we believe it is fair to question how many fraudulent registrations may lead to fraudulent votes or what other activities they are willing to undertake to influence the election.
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GLee1 year, 3 months ago
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Each candidates camp is pointing the finger across the aisle. Personally, I believe America knows that the current crisis goes back to the Carter administration and has been fueled by Clinton's 8 years as well. This is not to say that Bush doesn't share some of the blame but the 'right' has been warning of a crash for the last 4-5 years and no one wanted to listen. The larger point being, they all had a hand in this mess and the American public is now seeing the light. The next few elections might prove to be the true 'change' in America's politics!
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sieben131 year, 3 months ago
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Taxpayers in Pennsylvania will pay $25 billion for total Iraq war spending approved to date. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:
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6,178,858 People with Health Care for One Year OR
30,087,716 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year OR
548,339 Public Safety Officers for One year OR
381,153 Music and Arts Teachers for One Year OR
2,056,721 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR
254,272 Affordable Housing Units OR
7,852,612 Children with Health Care for One Year OR
3,921,309 Head Start Places for Children for One Year OR
396,560 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR
348,743 Port Container Inspectors for One year
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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Don`t forget to put McCain on your Christmas Card list too. He would be happy if that continued for 100 years.
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jga10724931 year, 3 months ago
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an wheres the dems vote they run the house come on its the dem party who dont care do your home work and dont forget bush came in at a very bad time not that i agree whith him on policys he put in place but if you check records you will see alot of problems we have today is the dems fighten for political gain not the people your ideas sound great but the party can give a **** they just want to much power and thats not a good thing
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EHS1 year, 3 months ago
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Senator McCain deserves some credit and respect for years of service. Obama keeps struggling because he keeps trying to cover his tracks with wrong friends. Names associated with anti Israel, type people, keep coming to my mind. Just last week, the Iran President came to speak to unite Muslims at the New York hotel to speak against Israel. He tries to charm, but his comment about rural people clinging to their guns and religion still rings in my ears. Unsure about his character. That doesn't sound like a christian man to me. Wiser to be safe than sorry.
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jga10724931 year, 3 months ago
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME! thats obamas whole campain blame the reps when 17 times since 2003 the the dems are the ones who said i quote everthing is geat why fix whats not broke they saw this comeing and some rep and did nothing most rep including bush admin mccain at least tried and i quote dems still blame rep this is a joke i was a dem and still am but have to vote rep this time because the dem party will run the presidentcy not obama he can only talk not do and most of his speeches always cast the first stone
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jga10724931 year, 3 months ago
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obama always throws the first stone he is a great talker on what people want BUT he really stands for political gain he didnt even help his party get the votes to busy bashing mccain this is why i would never vote for him and for the record he voted present for bailout the man is not about change hes about political gain and there is not one thing that hes done for the people on the record and check for yourself this man is a talker thats it come on people check it out this is about america not a party so if you want a talker who does not care about you and lies about how hes for change and will say just about anything to get your vote and check out his flipfloping to get your vote the man can not run a country atleast MCCAIN is for the people may not agree with everthing but he beleaves in AMERICA and the people and has a good past history thats why iam voteing for mccain AMERICA comes first
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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BS
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The act sought to address a practice common in the banking industry in the 1960s and 1970s known as redlining -- denying credit to people based on their neighborhood, race, marital status, last name and a lot of other indicators that served as false proxies for "too risky." Redlining was racist, sexist, deeply unfair and, as our industry would later learn, bad business.
The CRA ended this practice. By obligating banks to pursue lending opportunities within their local service areas, it prevented them from taking a community's deposits while ignoring its needs. In the 1990s, regulatory agencies strengthened the CRA by establishing strict compliance tests for a bank's lending, investment and service activities. Meeting those tests became a prerequisite for approval of mergers and acquisitions. As the merger market intensified, so too did banks' attention to the CRA.
http://www.jimv.com/2008/03/subprime-crisis.html-
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tiredofwhiners1 year, 3 months ago
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So the new rules giving loans to low income people worked? They even mandated welfare be considered income, and no down loans became common too. They mandated that a certain percentage of loans must go to minorities. That's sound lending practices?
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quackpot1 year, 3 months ago
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WRONG
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The Republican controlled congress and administration are the ones that oversaw the vast expansion of sub-prime and blatant abuses of sub-prime that took place during the past seven-plus years. Expansion from a reasonable program to a toxic one.
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tiredofwhiners1 year, 3 months ago
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Wow are you wrong! It was the libs in 1992 who got this all going and continued to support poor lending practices until very recently. Now nobody claims credit. There were many Republicans and economists who warned of disaster, including McCain, but the libs never took heed. Blame goes squarely on the liberals and Dems for 16 years, including Frank, Dodd and Biden, big champions of risky loan practices. I guess reading only Daily Kos and Kausfiles and watching Olberman really screws up your thinking. iI was the Democrat controlled congress for the last 2 years who did not take care of the situation when it was coming to a head and now want to bail out the lenders, including their mismanaged darlings Fannie and Freddie.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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GLee:
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I was just holding a mirror in front of your post and it has no life like you. LOL
You need to take off those Reagan colored glasses and see the truth in the light.
A lot of people liked Reagan because he was an actor. Not a president an actor.
But hey a lot of people like actors because their own lives are so mundane. Well I prefer the truth and the truth is Reagan was one hell of a good liar and so the people who believed him believe the lies. But hey that is OK. God said it would be like this.
People loving the evil and hating the light. Well, welll, well the truth is out. Many people loved the evil and still do. hahahahahahahahahaaa
Too bad, but I'm sure you'll be able to see him when you die, just like a lot of the so called Christians who profess with their mouth yet prove in the flesh what they love.
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coymoy1 year, 3 months ago
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I can't wait for McCain to win. The weighted polls ... the biased media ... the "heart of America" the America people know Obama is the cancer not the cure. I don't want more taxes. I don't want to run corporations out of America to other countries(I'll bet Michigan wishes they got the new Ford Fusion Plant being built in Mexico). I don't want to give the UN 50 mil. a year. I don't believe that airing my tires is going to reduce my fuel cost significantly. I don't want a failed community organizer who can't say where the $150 million of CAC money went. I don't want to apologize for being an American. Obama is from a failed state with the highest tax rate in the US and I don't want him as President. McCain/Palin 2008
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tchef1 year, 3 months ago
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I've got news for you, with the highest deficit in history that the Republicans have given us with the last 8 years of mismanagement some one is going to have to pay. After 8 years it's pretty apparent that "trickle down economics" doesn't trickle down. If you want the economy to grow you are going to have to give the money to the most people who will spend it. The middle and lower class.
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coymoy1 year, 3 months ago
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You couldn't be more wrong! You've had a democratic congress for the last four of the eight years. Prior to the eight years you had a cancer growing in the economy with Republicans fighting for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac regulation every step of the way. Bush asked 17 times and the dems turned him down. McCain proposed legislation and the dems turned him down. Bill Clinton SAID it was the dems. When regulators tried to stop the graft and fraud the dems headed by Maxine Waters tried to make it a race issue over Franklin Raines (who paid himself $90 million in 7 years) and is now with the Obama campaign. If you want the economy to grow then quit taxing the hell out of small business and corporations so they run to other countries. Obama wants to raise taxes on individuals and corporations. PLUS OBAMA WANTS YOU TO INFLATE YOUR TIRES ... you do that --and I say DRILL NOW! McCain/Palin 2008
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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"You've had a democratic congress for the last four of the eight years."
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You need to bone up on your math. Dems have been a slight majority for less than 2 of the last 8 years. Reps have been totally in charge for the first 6 years of the Bush reign. Reps had a veto-proof majority well before that.
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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A filibuster? Awwww, poor Republicans. Grow a pair! You had a 55 to 44 to 1 Senate majority for the first 6 years of Bush rule. If you couldn't convince 5 other members (one of them Lieberman), to vote with you, then perhaps you weren't 'reaching across the aisle' enough.
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 3 months ago
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Here's a good link:
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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I understand now why you are a Republican. You can't tell the truth or add.
That is that new Republican math. LMAO Haahahahahahahaaaa.
The Democrats won in the 2006 election. But hey don't let a little thing like the facts deter you. They never have for Bush/Cheney?McCain/Palin? Or the other fouled politicians who call themselves conservatives but are actually just greedy, selfish self centered ego maniacs who need to be wealthy and powerful to feel worthy.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 3 months ago
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To start with the DEMS have been in for less than 2 years. And in the congress they don't have the votes to pass anything. The president has vetoed quite a few bills. Look smart people are not buying this crap. The country didn't become this freaking mess in a little less than 2 years, this is a consistent and growing problem. You got a surplus and you spent it all in less than a year.
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Now that you need to spend you are trying to save face. Fiscal conservatives my ass, you are that now because you have gotten us into this mess. Only a fool would believe that the DEMS has done this in less than 2 years! And the deregulate and leaving wall street alone crowd had nothing at all to do with this.-
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RedRiverJ1 year, 3 months ago
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Barney Frank (D) Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Chris Dodd (D) Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee
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The buck stops with these two as well as many other democrats and REPUBLICANS.
Obama received the second largest contribution from lobbyists of Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac. McCain received a much smaller contribution as well a pittance compared to Dodd and Obama.
There is plenty of blame to go around.
see for yourself
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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The buck stops with BUSH, two neocon cheered wars, an obliterated budget surplus, 10 trillion dollars of BUSH debt, unprecedented war time tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy, no-bid New Orleans and defense contracts, billions in subsidies for Big Oil, hundreds of billions in corporate welfare, $4 gas for his and Cheney's oil baron buddies and those hospital bills from when boozer Cheney shot that old guy in the face. That's where the buck and the BUCKSHOT stop. You're out of your minds, cons. Get a grip. ;-(
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Bucotch1 year, 3 months ago
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So that wil end up to be about a day of spending. What's the plan for the rest of the year? Obama's big cut for 95% of Americans 'really' ends up to be one
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time hand out of 500-1000 dallars and 43% of that 95% will go to people that don't make enough to even pay in any taxes. So it aint no 'tax break'. He's gonna try and tax the crap out of corporations and SMALL BUSINESS that will, guess what, pass that on to consumers or
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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Cons are extremely unstable and your desperate fearmongering will be for naught. No one believes cons have any thing resembling sound fiscal judgement after what you've done to our world economy over the last 8 years so STOP pretending you're credible. ; -(
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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As opposed to the lies you're regurgitating about Obama's tax plan which have been debunked, smacked down, totally discredited as right wing desperate lying, etc? Yeah, you're a totally credible fact-filled source. I'm wowed by your objectivity and lack of spin. ROTFLMAO.
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rimbaud1 year, 3 months ago
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Stuck on some delusional old talking points?
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US companies are investing in the emerging growth markets in Asia (they cannot afford not to). They will build AND sell there. Even the required technical and engineering skills can be had there for cheap. Only the profits will come home to Bush's "ownership sociey", those rich or smart enough to invest. Yes, those nasty corporations are us! What's good for General Motors is good for the USA! When the up and coming Chinese are driving Chevies (GMC = General Motors China) and pumping Exxon/Iran oil, all will be well for us. Jobs that must be done locally, like Agriculture and Construction, are already heavily invested in by Mexican labor. If all you have to offer is your labor, you have been devalued, unless you can invent or design products for the new growth markets. It's a natural progression for a wealthy people... let those that are hungry study math and science and work hard. We will be the gentlemen rulers of the earth.-
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John_Wisdom1 year, 3 months ago
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Wow that is probably the worst elitist commentary I have ever read. "Let those that are hungry study math and science and work hard"?!?! What about our Beloved Leaders "No child left behind"? Oh I'm sorry 95% of those children weren't born with a silver spoon firmly entrenched between their fat little lips. So you would rather have them starve while they study than sacrifice even a small percentage of your wealth. People like you are what is going to turn this nation into a Third World country. Unfortunately for you Third World countries are often subject to armed revolution and the armed Middle Class of America KNOW how to share. Good luck with the Junta, Che Guevarra is going to stomp a mudhole in your eltist (expletive deleted).
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Blackacereturn1 year, 3 months ago
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rimbaud - I haven't seen this much crap in one paragraph in my life. What happens when the Chines do to us as we did to Japan and kick us out? We are building up their country, we are educating their children to work in what is for the time being our factories on chines soil. We own them about as much as a foreclosed home owner own his or her home.
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There is no easier way to get another nations technology than to encourage them to build on your soil, it's fools like you that are destroying this country. The problem with most American is that we think we are the only ones with a brain on earth. This is why the African scam worked to perfection on some of our smartest mind, we underestimate the other persons intentions, and intellect.
Your plan makes the Chines economy stronger than ours, they already own us, and we are educating them and theirs...you see this as a good thing because you are short sighted. We will not be gentlemen rulers we will be relegated to beggars just take a look around we are already begging fool!
See you assumed that while you are planning for the Chines they are not planning for you. You think they can't do without US. While we or should I say arrogant fools like you have been planning for china they have been creating a 3 continent partnership Africa, Asia and South America, so much so that those continents are now refusing us involvement. Why do you think Chavez can tell us to go to hell and not worry about us buying his oil? Here is an idea idiot chins is buying it. It's it arrogant fools like you that will bring this nation down.
The British were once Gentlemen rulers, maybe we should learn from them!Your enemies are always your enemies and they are always planning for you even if you are not for them!There is a Famous chines literature it's call the Art of War maybe you and your fool friends and like minded thinkers should read it! -
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dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
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ROFLMAO,Closet elitist makes an appearance. Seems thruout history the strong nations are those with a strong manufacturing base. We are outsourcing everything for the sake of a buck. The math and science you talk about are outsourced, we're selling our knowledge base for a few dollars today. Do you know who is supporting our infrastructure?? The telephone and communication backbone?? the Chinese. If WWII was fought today we wouldnt have the manufacturing base to sustain operations.
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rimbaud1 year, 3 months ago
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"I don't want to apologize for being an American". Me neither!
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MsThing20091 year, 3 months ago
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Huh. Well, as a Michigan resident, I can pretty much promise you that most people in our state would have prefered NOT to have lost their jobs to begin with. The closing of the GM and Ford plants ( also companies that manufacted parts of these vehicles, such as visors and tail lights...) and furniture manufacturing jobs, I doubt this company could have bailed out the thousands and thousands of people already laid off.
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John Engler-R ( and G Bush-R ) caused an incredible amount of damage to Michigan /this country economically. The Republicans have been in office 8 YEARS! How anyone can possible blame the democrats for this encomic mess amazes me.-
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ISITJUSTME1 year, 3 months ago
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You will pay more taxes under McCain's plan than Obama's. All the polls that have McCain in the lead are weighted. If everyone properly inflated their tires there would be a reduction in fuel consumption. A decrease in demand brings about a reduction in price. The republicans are without a leader like a ship without a rudder.
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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"A decrease in demand brings about a reduction in price." I wish that were so, but that isn't the case. Speculators, more than anything, control the prices. This summer, demand went down, but prices went up and up and up, without diminished supply. Prices have gone down recently, mainly due to commodities speculators taking their profit and backing out of the market.
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ISITJUSTME1 year, 3 months ago
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They backed out because of the decrease in demand over the summer. They did back out because they thought that they could still makes some. They price of a barrel of oil has dropped because of the drop in demand. All prices for commodities or products are based on demand. Most times price lags behind demand. It is always what the market can bear.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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No, actually if you read obama`s plan he is going to pay for it by repealing Bush`s tax breaks for the rich and by ending the war in Iraq as well as cutting out the BS handouts of the Republicans to private middle-men insurers who only add $15B onto the costs of Medicare while adding nothing. He also will end the pharma entitlements, thereby reducing our total costs for needed goods and services. It isn`t just public taxes that are bad, but also private ones.
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McCain on the other hand has no plan to pay for his spending plans, except for shirk it onto the middle class of course. McCain wants to extend and expand upon the Bush tax breaks for the rich.
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tchef1 year, 3 months ago
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This assertion that it is Obama's fault the this bill failed is nonsense. The taxpayers of this country just don't want to bail out Wall Street and they have made it very plain to their representatives (many of whom are up for re-election).
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salmoncakes1 year, 3 months ago
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Amen, brotha!!! In case you didn't notice, almost half of California's Dems voted no. Pelosi can't even muster unity amongst her own party, even from her own statesmen. I think that the citizens of this country let their representatives know that this plan stinks, and that we need to find another way.
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coyotewilddog1 year, 3 months ago
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The demos voted no also in AZ ? So where do we go from here? Let us all come together as AMERICANS, not just who got who. Aren't we are all in this together? We all have set back and let this go on in our government and do not scream at our rep until a crisis hits. Where have we been in the past 16 yrs. We have just let things ride. Now when there is an immediate need we get moving. Well lets get moving in the right direction and contact our reps and tell them what we believe in. Whether it be Rep or Demo get this bill right. We need to have in place the right limitations. We need to take a breath and then move forward with the right bill to cure this problem. I say thanks to those who voted no to give us a moment to really look at the bill. What REALLY is the ramifications of what they are voting on .
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Wolfie20071 year, 3 months ago
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That is so hilarious! There was supposed to be oversight of Fannie and Freddie already, enough said. The republican voted no, like 90 of the democrats, because this was a bad bill with no real protection for taxpayers. And they got thousands of phone calls from their constituents telling them to vote NO. I understand the no calls were running about 300 to 1.-
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dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
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ROFLMAO, WOlfie you keep trying to prove you are clueless, you can stop its been done. The Republicans made sure there was very little oversight for those organizations. You do remember the bill that you keep touting as sponsored by Mccain in 2004(hmmmm thats a Republican controlled Congress) that was written in 2003 but not until 2005 did McCain latch onto it that called for oversight that was defeated BY the REPUIBLICAN congress? Didnt think so.
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tiredofwhiners1 year, 3 months ago
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dunkirk - Just stop for a moment and actually think. You are aware the Dumbocraps created and "oversaw" Fannie and Freddie - right? They were the champions of free wheeling no qualifications loans to the poor. Take credit where credit is due. You live in the same world of fiction and incompetence as Frank, Biden, Dodd, Reid, Pelosi, et al.
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dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
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ROFLMAO, for someone who is tired of whining you definetly do that a lot dont you. YOU seem to NOT understand that oversight and regulation were rem,oved by the REPUBLICANS. That the reson the REPUBLICANS voted NO was the bill called for increased "government", i.e. oversight and regulation. THAT was what they said. You do understansd a REPUIBLICAN congress vetoed legislation that was introduced to prevent just this back in 2005. I didnt think you did.
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I do enjoy your comment tho the Dems created and oversaw Fannie and Freddy. It seems that from 1994 to 2007 we had Republican controlled C0ngresses which you seem to be saying were totally incapable of doing anything. ENjoy the mess YOUR party created.
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jhicks88721 year, 3 months ago
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Newt Gringrich stated to McCain, that he should back out the bailout bill and tie the passage of the bill to the Democrats and George Bush. Newt Gringrich and John McCain are old friends, guess what is happening with the Republicans. Yes, the weasels are playing politics and trying to tie the bill passage to George Bush and the Democrats. This would gurantee McCain the White House. Who is playing politics, with the life line of our country?
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rimbaud1 year, 3 months ago
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That this bill failed is a good thing. The candidates should be taking credit for it!
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epiphannyy1 year, 3 months ago
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Only in a republican mind can the party who delivered the most votes, and the candidate who refused to inject politics into the negotiation processes be to blame for politicizing a plan that was scuttled by the very same people who are finger pointing blame now.
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Reality:
Democrats voted for the bailout by a margin of 2:1, while the republicans voted against it by nearly 3:1. Their reasoning? According to Boehner, republicans had their feelings hurt over something Pelosi supposedly said, so their reaction was to grab up their toys and go home while leaving the country to pay the price for their tantrum.
Personally, I think Pelosi needs to step down. She had no business calling for a vote on a bill as important as this without knowing it would pass. Doing so showed she's not a very good leader and needs to step aside. Its just the latest in a long line of things she's done that shows she's not exactly up to the job as Speaker.
BUT, for the republicans to throw a tantrum that the American taxpayer will have to pay dearly for is unforgivably inexcusable. I realize that many Americans don't want this bailout, but I think that feeling is born from a lack of total understanding of just how extreme the situation is, and what the cost of NO bailout would be. The collapse of our financial structures will have a fallout that will take at least a generation to recover from. We're on the precipice of imploding and if something isn't done quickly, all these people complaining about a higher tax will be finding themselves unable to make ends meet, let alone any ability to pay the taxes that will follow. The impact of this isn't going to be confined to the corrupt CEO's who ran their companies into the ground....the REAL victims will be the American populous. And for McCain to be playing politics with this is despicable. He's become a very sad and pathetic version of himself.
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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"The fact that McCain is using that ignorance to try and gain political points is completely beyond the pale."
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So much for McCain donning his Captain Economy costume and flying in to save the day. I can't help but think if Obama had suspended his campaign and rode in on a silver horse and all this had happened, his presidential bid would be over amid charges of a messianic complex.
You are correct, McCain has become his own parody
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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The reality is..this crisis was created by many years of Democrat supported policy... and was aggravated by repeated Democrat opposition over the years to do anything to reform or reign it in..
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THAT is too well documented to be subject to any kind of dispute.
THAT is why the democrat are now living in terror.
If this crisis isn't resolved quickly..the pressure to ask emabrrassing questions is going to be too great for even their allies in the media to cover up.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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Take a look at who has held the presidency for 20 of the 28 years. A joke of a Republican, An Actor, A former CIA Director, And a dumb sh*t who has failed at everything he has done.
Whose chickens have come home to roost you cockle doodle dooo brain ?????
Yeah it was their policies that have us wretching daily !!!!!!!!! The only thing that allowed us any respite was the eight good years of Clinton !!!!!!
But hey I know you are politically mentally challenged !!! You are like the rest of the so called conservatives who call for personal responsibility and yet want everyone else to pay for it with their tax money not yours.
What a joke !!!!!! Bush ran on a ticket of conservative values !!!! Hah !!!! What Bankrupting America and her citizens for the wealth of his buddies in Saudi Arabia ??? No child left behind except the ones whose programs were never funded ??? Attack Iraq for the non existant WMD's and then stay for the oil ???? Don't forget he wanted to privatise our social security and have it invested in the stock market !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gee where would all those funds be now ???????????? You guys are worse than clowns because you are not even funny !!!!!
Do yourself a favor and take a glimpse of reality from time to time. It just might scare you to seeing how evil and corrupt your heroes are!!!!!!!!!
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coymoy1 year, 3 months ago
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Bears repeating
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YONA SOLOMON7:53AMSep 27th 2008
The Tax Poem
by BARAK OBAMA
At first I thought this was funny...then I realized the awful truth of it.
Be sure to read all the way to the end!
Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.
Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.
Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.
Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.
Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.
Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.
Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.
When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.
Put these words
Upon his tomb,
'Taxes drove me
to my doom...'
When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Airline surcharge tax
Airline Fuel Tax
Airport Maintenance Tax
Building Permit Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Death Tax
Dog License Tax
Drivng Permit Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment (UI)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Gasoline Tax ( too much per litre)
Gross Receipts Tax
Health Tax
Hunting License Tax
Hydro Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest Tax
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Mortgage Tax
Personal Income Tax
Property Tax
Poverty Tax
Prescription Drug Tax
Provincial Income Tax
Real Estate Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Retail Sales Tax
Service Charge Tax
School Tax
Telephone Federal Tax
Telephone Federal, Provincial and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Water Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation
was one of the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had a large middleclass,
and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
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miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
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This graph explains just which politicians are causing our problems.
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CaptainLucid1 year, 3 months ago
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Conmoy, you are either a retard, a liar, or most likely both. Your list of things that were not taxed 100 years ago falls into 3 main categories. The completely wrong, the irrelevent, and the insignificant. Lets start with the completely wrong like income, booze, tobacco, and property taxes. You should really try googling some of these and they can easily be easily proved wrong. In school did you learn about the whiskey rebellion of 1791. That was when a bunch of corn farmers rebelled against a tax on whiskey that you claim didn't exist. Then there is the irrevelant like no airport tax 100 years ago. Of course they didn't tax airports before they existed but what does that have to do with the bailout? And the irrelevent. If some small town wants to tax all pink umbrellas 10 cents that really does not have an effect on a 700 billion bailout. By the way lets look at one thing that was taxed 100 years ago but no longer is, VOTING.
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redbeard472291 year, 3 months ago
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Right on! I hope everyone notices that the only downword trend was when the Republicans took control of congress for the first time in 40 years from 1994 until 2002. The DemocRATS have controlled the spending for the rest of the time. The President signs the bills, but cannot spend anything without the introduction and bill approval from the House and the Senate. I just wish the people would learn to understand this.
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dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
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ROFLMAO, and Clinton was in office. Seems once they had complete control of the government it not only increased but more then doubled. Yes that means in 4 years YOUR party increased the debt by more then ALL OTHER Presidents combined in the history of the nation. Great Job.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 3 months ago
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While it is true that in 1908 we had no telephone taxation, I will remind you of the heavy tarifs we had for buggy whips and button-hooks.
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And why is it better for Mom to raise the kids? Is that an anti-palin slash?
Or do you just feel a man can't raise kids right?
Or maybe you just feel sort of shortened working with women?
On the plus side, I liked the 'STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?'
As though the reader were laughing at that dreary poem
until you brought them up short with a call to seriousness!
That's kind of sweet, in a sad sad way.
But seriously, 1909 was not a good time to live, compared to the late 20th century.
Woman are people, sorta, and have the right to work.
And don't get me started on being non-white in 1908. Ouch.
Taxes are bad, but it is better to tax and spend,
than spend without the guts to tax.
Tax cuts without spending cuts,
are only deficit spending;
deficit spending is deferred taxation;
you still have to pay the bill; plus interest.
For the last 8 years we have charged a longer war than WWII; while giving out tax cuts. This crisis is the bill; presented to America.
Yes, We can spell 'politicians'.
We can spell 'fraud' too.
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krp01511 year, 3 months ago
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Get your facts straight.
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Obama and friends did cause this mess.
Bush tried several times to put regulations on banking starting in 2001. do your fruitin HOMEWORK !
MCAIN sponsored a bill in 2005 to avert this mess.
The fruit loop Barney Frank said Frannie and Fredie was doing a good job and they were solvent. He wanted more sub prime lending. Again backdoor socialism. THE CLOWN PELOSI WITH STOGES IN CONGRESS Give more to the people who could least affordm it. Again DO YOUR FRUITIN HOMEWORK ! This mess if you do your homework and follow the real money and want the real truth will show you this is a democratic socialistic communistic mess. I am a democrate and wanted the truth i found it and don't like it. Sure the republicans are not perfect but the elected elete in thwe party of the poor line their pockets and we are still poor. FRUIT THE DEMOCRATIC LIARS.-
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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I think YOU need to do your homework. Dude anything before 2006 was a Republican-controlled Congress.
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"MCAIN sponsored a bill in 2005 to avert this mess."
LOL. McCain didn't sign on to the bill until 2006. S.190 never made it out of the Republican-controlled committee. Even the right-wing think tank AEI thought the bill was 'worse than existing law'. Have you read it? It would have allowed Fannie and Freddie to venture into even more areas of residential finance (can you say 'Bigger Bailout'?) and would have left the mortgage industry largely unregulated for a full year (repeat with me now, "Even BIGGER bailout").-
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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Never made it out of committee?
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Maybe the fact that EVERY Democrat on the Senate Banking Committe voted against it HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT?
It would only require a few Republicans to then cooperate with the OVERWHELMING UNIFIED Democrat opposition to kill the bill.
and THAT is the fault of Republicans en masse?
and ..oh by the way,, ever hear of a filibuster?
Democrats made it clear they were willing to use it to block reform in the Senate... and the GOP did not have the 60 votes needed to override it.
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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"Maybe the fact that EVERY Democrat on the Senate Banking Committee voted against it HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT?"
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The committee was majority Republican. Period.
You didn't address the fact that it was a BAD BILL, and would have likely INCREASED the problems we are having now. Just because something is named 'reform' does not mean it actually reforms anything. Read the bill. It would have ELIMINATED the regulatory structures at the time in favor of new ones. During the one-year transition, the mortgage industry would have had NO REGULATION WHATSOEVER, and there was NO guarantee the new regulatory body would have been any better that the existing one. Further, it would have allowed Fannie and Freddie to expand into MORE areas of residential finance.
Sorry, you want this to be ALL about the Democrats. 'Taint so. If fact, it's MOSTLY about the Republican rage against the Glass-Steagall act that protected the US economy from the robber barons of the Great Depression.
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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Maybe the fact that EVERY Democrat on the Senate Banking Committe voted against it HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT?
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Um, no. Even if every single one of the Democrats voted against it in the committe, since the Republicans had the majority, they could have passed it on to the floor of the Senate for Debate.
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Ratskii1 year, 3 months ago
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So you're saying that the republicans are totally lame and that a minority of democrats in congress can defeat everything they try to do even though the republicans have control of the White House? Wow, you heard it hear folks, krp0151 thinks the republicans are a bunch of push overs.
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EHS1 year, 3 months ago
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I agree that the Democrats pushed loans to risky people, but greedy CEO's, hurricanes, Katrina, mississippi floods, drought, forest fires etc added to it. If Obama cared about the middle class, maybe, he, Criss Dodds, and Frank Ranes could give some millions back. We hope they can get the wording in the "bailout or loan" correct to keep socialism out of our government. If Obama gets in, do you suppose his socialist cousin, Ralia, who lost presidency in Kenya, last Dec. 07 will be at our capitol's back door? He created quite a disturbance there.
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krp01511 year, 3 months ago
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Obama's fiscal policies come right out of Carters playbook. I guess that liberals want to see stagflation again. at the end of his term there was 12.5% inflation, 18.5% mortgage, about 8% unemployment. And Obama wants to take us there again. What a plan. Of course no drilling, no refineries, no nuclear power plants. But inflate tires and spend more on things that have been under research since Clinton.
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Democrats brought us the sub prime mess as noted in the story. What is not noted is that in 2003, 2005, and 2006 the Republicans tried to get better rules and oversight for Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Democrats stonewalled it and said "HANDS OFF" of them. McCain said from the floor that the taxpayer would pay the bill if this bill isn't passed. He was a prophet.
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semicharmedlifej1 year, 3 months ago
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The heart ( and fact ) of the matter is that the economy was doing MUCH better than this when President Clinton was in office. Hmmmm, don't think much it would take much to have a better economy than now. And by the way? The Republicans said they were going to blame the DEMOCRATES if this bailout failed..but look who voted it down!
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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Bitch slapping Pelosi was just a bonus to opposing a bad bill...to bail out Democrats.
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the result of years of Democrat policies..pressuirng banks to give loans to high risk lenders, encouraging the subprime loan market and resisting MULTIPLE efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have come home to roost.
Democrat now live in terror.
If a bill isn't passed and soon.. people might start demanding investigations..and the democrats are screwed big time..especially guys like Barney Franks and Chris Dood,..who have opposed reforms at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for years.-
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Bucotch1 year, 3 months ago
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The MAIN reason things went so well for Clintion can largely be attributed to being in the right place at the right time. When things like Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Ebay, ect.... Bil Gates, and the likes, deserves more credit for a booming economy than any politicians. Greed took over.
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jenbisca1 year, 3 months ago
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The bailout not passing is a good thing. The republican house members were asked to vote yes if they felt their consciouses would support it. -- I guess it did not. Let the dust settle and we will be fine. The bailout was for the rich at the top, nothing to gain for the average American except a big fat tax bill.
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jenbisca1 year, 3 months ago
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The bailout not passing is a good thing. The republican house members were asked to vote yes if they felt their consciouses would support it. -- I guess it did not. Let the dust settle and we will be fine. The bailout was for the rich at the top, nothing to gain for the average American except a big fat tax bill.
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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Bitch slapping Pelosi was just a bonus to opposing a bad bill...to bail out Democrats.
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The result of years of Democrat policies..pressuring banks to give loans to high risk lenders, encouraging the subprime loan market and resisting MULTIPLE efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ...have come home to roost.
Democrats now live in terror.
If a bill isn't passed... and soon.. people might start demanding investigations..and the Democrats are screwed big time..especially guys like Barney Franks and Chris Dodd,..who have opposed reforms at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for years.-
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ind061 year, 3 months ago
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Opposing the "bad" bill was directly responsible for the stock market's swan dive. More than just a bunch of Wall Street fat cats were made to pay a price today. Anyone in the market who doesn't have ten years to sit around waiting for it to recover was hurt. No doubt thousands, if not tens of thousands, and quite probably more individual IRA's were just wiped out. Countless ordinary Americans just watched their retirement vanish like a puff of smoke on a windy day.
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Democrats did not principally oppose this bill, as imperfect as it was, therefore there is no reason for them to "live in terror".
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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There we have it, folks. The tragic results of a con with a tiny, sputtering, low-voltage battery powered brain who subsists on a steady diet of FOX and Limbaugh. These cons have got their talking points down pat. It's all Pelosi, Dodd, "Franks", and Obama's fault. Got it, cons. ;-P
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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Get a life..
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The House GOP's rejection of this bad deal was far less a rebuke of McCain than a case of them rejecting a bad deal..and bitch-slapping Nancy Pelosi for acting like an arrogant ass in her demagogic partisan speech on the house floor..
..trying to blame the Bush adminstration and Republicans when she knows full well that it's members of HER party..the Democrats..who have their fingers all over the polcies that led directly to this crisis..the Community Reinvestment Act of carter that allowed special interest groups to pressure banks into making loans to high risk borrowers, the cozy relationship between Democrats like Chris Dodd and Barney Franks with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac..and the refusal of Democrats on MULTIPLE occassions to support reforms at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to prevent exactly this kind of thing from happening.
Everone knows that the democrat party OWNS this mess..and Pelosi's lying attack would ahev been too much for anyone who respects the truth to tolerate.
She deserved the rebuke SHE just got.
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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Bitch slapping Pelosi was just a bonus..to opposing a bad bill.
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The evidence that this wjhole mess is directly traceable to Democrat policies.. pressuirng banks into making loans to high rish borrowers..and then Democrats opposing every effort to reform Fannie mae is too well documented for democrats to lie about it..
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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Bitch slapping Pelosi was just a bonus to opposing a bad bill...to bail out Democrats.
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the result of years of Democrat policies..pressuirng banks to give loans to high risk lenders, encouraging the subprime loan market and resisting MULTIPLE efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have come home to roost.
Democrat now live in terror.
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rads481 year, 3 months ago
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Bitch slapping Pelosi was just a bonus to opposing a bad bill...to bail out Democrats.
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the result of years of Democrat policies..pressuirng banks to give loans to high risk lenders, encouraging the subprime loan market and resisting MULTIPLE efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have come home to roost.
Democrat now live in terror.
If a bill isn't passed and soon.. people might start demanding investigations..and the democrats are screwed big time..especially guys like Barney Franks and Chris Dood,..who have opposed reforms at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for years.
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NYC_PATRIOT1 year, 3 months ago
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You are like the millions of other sheep that just follow the herd. The community Reinvestment Act has NOTHING to do with the subprime mess. Learn the facts you jerk. It's people like you that vote blindly without the facts and put people like Bush in power. 80% of all subprime loans were made by organizations not subject to any type of federal supervision. Read the story below and do your homework before you write nonsense out. You fool.
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beavith11 year, 3 months ago
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the republicans and democrats that voted against it, voted against it on principle, as they were instructed to by their leaders.
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Boehner's comment afterward was just a shot at Pelosi to shut her yap.
its not a tantrum. Paulson has said the 700B may not work. WTF? if we're going to spend that money, along with the other 300B earmarked for the two FMs, it better GD work.
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halinajoe1 year, 3 months ago
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Oh the games that republicans play. Sadly, one economist predicted that if this continues unemployement can be expected to go up one percent/week until the beginning of December. In addition, 750 to 1,000 banks will fail. Sovergein is the next big one to go. I guess that will quell some of the more extreme anti-bail out people on this list.
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Obama was right, don't inject presidential politics into tense negotations. I bet Bush regrets not just hanging up on McCrazy when he called.
First Bush/McCain destroy the economy and now they can not get their people on board to fix their mess. Sadly, this was a big McCain gamble. He stirred this pot. Expereince is to enhance judgement- he may have expereince but it is looking like his judgement is getting poorer and poorer with each gamble. -
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USArmyretiredhard1 year, 3 months ago
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OOOOPS GUESS WHO GOT CAUGHT IN THE COOKIE JAR?
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Two attorneys said Monday they and other lawyers have been contacted by prosecutors seeking to check information that only Rezko could have told them. Both attorneys spoke only on condition of anonymity, saying prosecutors have sought to keep such matters secret as part of the grand jury investigation.
The Chicago Tribune reported Sunday that four lawyers claimed to the newspaper that they have been called by prosecutors with information from Rezko or his attorneys.
Rezko, 53, a one-time millionaire real estate developer and fast-food entrepreneur, raised funds for many Illinois politicians — more than $1 million for Blagojevich. And in return he became one of the governor's key advisers.
He also raised money for Obama's Illinois campaigns but not for his presidential bid. Obama has donated $159,000 in Rezko-related contributions to charity.
Rezko was convicted in June of mail fraud, wire fraud, attempted extortion and money laundering. Witnesses said he launched a scheme to get $7 million in payoffs from a contractor and a group of money management firms that were hoping to do business with state boards stacked with his political allies.
Some of the charges carry a maximum sentence of 20 years each.
Rezko attorney William Ziegelmueller declined to comment about the courthouse visits, and attorney Joseph Duffy, the lead counsel at Rezko's trial, did not immediately return a call from The Associated Press on Monday.
Rezko's sentencing on Oct. 28 comes only days before the presidential election. Republican rival John McCain has been running TV ads linking Obama to Rezko
ARE YOU KIDDING ME PUT IN THE WHITE HOUSE? A THIEF?
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THE ALQUEDA AND TALIBAN AND PALESTINIANS RUSSIANS ALL WANT US TO VOTE IN OBAMA....THAT WOULD MAKE THEM ALL HAPPY SO THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE USA ALL OVER THE WORLD. WE WOULD BECOME A NATION OF APPEASEMENT AND LOSE OUR ABILITY TO REMAIN STRONG AND MILITARY STRONG. THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS VOTED IN IN 2006 PROVES OBAMA IS WRONG FOR THE USA....WE HAVE THE WORSE CONGRESS IN HISTORY IN WORK ETHICS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN HISTORY THEY HAVE NONE. THEY ARE TO BLAME FOR THE HIGH GAS PRICES AND THE FAILURES ON WALL STREET THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE BUT THEY GO ON VACATION THEY DONT CARE AND THEY WANT ANOTHER LEADER AS A DEMOCRAT????? ARE YOU KIDDING. YOUR POLL IS WAY OFF
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ITS A DEAD HEAT ACROSS THE NATION AND AOL POLL HAS MCCAIN WAY AHEAD SO YOU CANT LIVE BY THE POLLS. I AM INDEPENDENT AN VOTE MCCAIN AND PALIN FOR ALL THE IMPORTANT ISSUES. I FEAR OBAMA COULD BE THE ANTI CHRIST WHO COMES FROM THE WEST. THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING AND HE WOULD HIDE BEHIND HIS DESK....AND THEY COME SOON WITH SHIPS AND SUBS AND 800 NUCLEAR WARHEADS READY TO LAUNCH IN S AMERICAN WITH VENEZUELA.....THATS A DEADLY TIME FOR A WEAK NERD TO BE IN OFFICE (OBAMA) SO I VOTE FOR SAFETY FIRST
WHAT GOOD IS MONEY IF WE ARE ALL DEAD
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I agree the enemy is rejoicing that Obama is a strong candidate. It surely opened the door for Iran's president to unite the Muslims in America by using the New York Hotel owned by the family of Obama's campaign chairman, Penny, on the night of the debate. Quite devious to allow this chance for them to come in and speak to destroy Israel.
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More Change? DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS REMEMBER?
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Obama and the Dems want to change things in our government. Do we
really want them to?
Well now here are some facts: George Bush has been in office for
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years. For the first six years, the economy was fine. A little over a
year ago:
1.Consumer confidence was at a 2 1/2-year high.
2.Regular gas sold for $2.19 a gallon.
3.The unemployment rate was 4.5 percent.
4.The Dow Jones hit a record high over 14,000.
5.American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations over
seas,ect.
But, Americans wanted change, so in 2006 they voted in a Democratic
Congress and we got change.
1.Consumer confidence has plummeted.
2.Gas prices have gone up $4 plus a gallon in some places.
3.Unemployment is now 5 percent (a 10 percent increase).
4.Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion and
prices are still dropping.
5.One percent of American homes are in foreclosure, and it is getting
worse by the month.
6.The Dow is heading still lower--$2 plus trillion dollars have
disappeared from stocks, bonds and mutual funds.
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Eight years of lies ,thousands of dead soldiers, failed wars and policies and the idiot GOP wants to blame the Demos for the worst financial failure our USA has ever found itself in . Come on you jerks get your greedy hands out of our a--es. Why should the American wage earner bail out those that charged them ten more percentage points when late payments occured.. every time. You are probably the same worms that wanted ENRON bailed out.
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getreal11 year, 3 months ago
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Come on people. You know full well that this country is broke. They have no money to bail out anything. It is just a big show or they would make those CEOs pay back what they over inflated price wise anyway. The CEOs have the money.
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minnieh61 year, 3 months ago
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OK! so one wants to blame the other for the deficit, but ALL's responsible for allowing the other to freak the economy and the irony is those responsible have not been forced to account for their actions. OK President you tried. but I recommend an investigation to try all responsible O well but that would take so long the victims are already statitics only. So sorry for the victims. But what Now! o well again
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klmcintyre511 year, 3 months ago
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McCain has to stop blaming Obama for everything. Looking at the voting of the bail out it goes like this and this is from online on who voted for what.
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Democratic - Ayes 140 Noes 95
Republican - Ayes 65 Noes 133
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Bucotch1 year, 3 months ago
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So why didn't democrats push it through? Where's Obama's vote? Voted present again? The only thing that comes out Obama is Rhetoric; meaningless language intended to impress. Hot air. Any moron could stand there and spew the garbage he tries to push. He just does it articulately. I almost wish McCain would lose his temper a little and tear into him. He blew a lot of chances at the debate.
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doppich1 year, 3 months ago
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You really blew it this time, Johnny McCain. Your party - the party of Herbert Hoover - is getting its best efforts behind a rerun of 1929. You're not going to be living in that nice white house on Pennsylvania Avenue. You'll just have to be satisfied with the several you already own - assuming they're not in foreclosure like many other Americans' homes are.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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Good to see you !!!
Well you know the party has changed since the days of Ike.
He warned us about the pukes who would come after him and be the military industrial complex builders.
Look at his slimy V.P. Richard "Tricky Dicky" Milhouse the louse Nixon. You remember his checkers speech.
Remember him years later saying "I'm not a crook" as he was forced to resign or face impeachment and prison time.
Yeah, some real fine examples of upstanding poltical theives, Nixon and GW Bush, the bookends of the worst presidential run in the US history barring Clintons years.
Yep, we have had some bad ones in the last 40years.
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USArmyretiredhard1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama has ties to fannie mae and freddie mac....he is part of the problem and has done nothing for the solution. His top two compaign managers are theives Raines and Johnson two top prior ceos of those companies who lied to congress in an 2004 investigation....they both took off and make 90 million and gave money to obama...so his old buddy got nailed yesterday by FBI that William Ayers the radical guy who wanted to blow up the USA....he has great friends doesnt he...sounds like a prisoner on the loose this OBAMA....well his buddy might blow the whistle on him for some deal...I hope it comes out I dont want a thief and a smooth talking con man in the white house
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"The russians are coming" soon with a fleet in south american and Obama will pee his pants or hide under the desk when he finds out they are carrying over 800 nuclear missles. MCCain would send them home packing quick...come on people its not about politics dems or repubs...its about us we the people...obama will never get his "programs" off the ground now he has no money and wont...unless he hikes your taxes...
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ANY TRUE CHRISTIAN WOULD NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA...
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From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'
And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!
From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
ARE YOU KIDDING ME A MUSLIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE?
this guy has no record of accomplishments...hes unqualified to lead and my man MCCAIN is a leader a warrior and exeperience..
You left winger airheads its time to fill up your heads with helium your delerious lately
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It's OK I know some lifers who were hard core alcoholics. There is still hope for you. LOL
Try to understand, the Army,Marine,Navy, Air force,Coast Guard, Yeah they serve their purpose. I know I was there, not for a career, but to serve my country in time of war.
The ways of the service are not the ways of civilians, thank God.
So do yourself a favor and try to understand not everyone loves war and hatred.
Saw to many die to ever allow another war loving SOB truy to lead this country into the jaws of death and destruction for their own gain.
Why don't you try to remember all the kids who died for our freedom and honor them, instead of backing the lunatics who love war and death.
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John_Wisdom1 year, 3 months ago
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This Bailout fiasco seems pretty simple to me. First seize the records of the top 10 Mortgage Lending Firms on Wall Street and cross-reference with IRS tax returns from last year. If a persons (or couples) income was between 50K and 75K per year pay off their mortgage debt using the first 350 billion. Second those making between 75K and 150K... pay off HALF of their mortgage debt with the remaining 350 billion.
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What does this accomplish?..... First it infuses Wall Street with a huge influx of money while removing bad credit risks from companies books AND boosts the market values of homes in the process. Second it sends even more cash into Wall Street while maintaing good credit risks (those making between 75 to 150K per year). And once again boosting the market value of homes in the process.
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Poulenc1 year, 3 months ago
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I await MaCain blaming Obama for old age and death, two subjects about which the former must have increasingly strong feelings.
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Good lord! Is there no end to McCain's reflexive politicization of delicate issues that require, at this perilous time, a coming together rather than business-as-usual division?
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Jimjn21 year, 3 months ago
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Hey, this funny!
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not2needy says,
"John McCain should stop blaming Obama for everything that has happened in this country in the last 8 years."
I say, maybe you, Obama and others should take your own advise and stop blaming John McCain for everything that has happened in this country in the last 8 years.
It was Dem controlled Congress that was the least productive in American History.
And Nancy Pelosi did it again by spouting partisan hate rhetoric when she should have been a true leader and given a Bipartisan speech before the vote. She is another Dem not ready to lead.
Oh yeah, thank Barnie Franks and the Dem Banking Commission too while you are at it. They started this whole mess.
You Dems all make me laugh you say you want change but can't see past your partisan spite.
There was wrong on both sides of the aisle with this current mess. It all needs to be fixed.…
But remember this one thing, John McCain predicted this would happen 2 years ago and his efforts to prevent this very crisis were blocked by the Dem controlled Congress.
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Natureboy1 year, 3 months ago
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"Oh yeah, thank Barnie Franks and the Dem Banking Commission too while you are at it. They started this whole mess."
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Have you actually checked out who is seated on the Banking and Finance committee? It is bipartisan, split right down the middle.
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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So as the spin machine story goes 12 Republicans voted against the bill that would have averted the Wall Street meltdown because of a partisan speech?
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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But remember this one thing, John McCain predicted this would happen 2 years ago and his efforts to prevent this very crisis were blocked by the Dem controlled Congress.
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Just as a matter of fact, the Democrats did not controll either side of Congress two years ago in 2006. The Banking reform bill did not make it out of the Republican controlled committee.
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tiredofwhiners1 year, 3 months ago
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What led up to this mess is well documented but not publicized in the mainstream media. The root cause was the 1992 Democratic Congress mandating that Fannie and Freddie Mac increase their purchases for low and medium income borrowers. Fannie Mae has been especially aggressive in giving minority loans. In the Clinton years massive government pressure was put on banks to follow this mandate. In 1999 liberals bragged about the highest black and Latino home ownership in history. Cuomo investigated Fannie for racial discrimination and that helped put the screws on them. Traditional and conservative guidelines for loan qualification were trashed. Threatening lawsuits and demanding that welfare payments be considered income, making lower down payment requirements, redefining income needed all served to increase the risk to the point that the first major real estate bust was sure to result in major defaults on loans. The feds were given many warnings by Economists but were ignored. Oversight was poor because Fannie and Freddie were quasi-government entities and (naturally) exempt from close scrutiny. Some of the current leaders, such as Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and Joe Biden were in the forefront of promoting this bad idea. What I see here in the comments is a lot of ignorance and denial by the libs who all supported this fiasco before it resulted in disaster.
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tiredofwhiners1 year, 3 months ago
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I, who knows little about real estate loans, could see something was wrong for years. People who I knew getting a great house I didn't think they could afford. Even one of my daughter in laws, who recently defaulted. She is minority and may have gotten it because of that. A good friend bought a house in Vegas and now has to give it up because he can no longer afford it (never could). The thinking was "they always go up" can't lose. Not so for me as I have seen booms and busts since 1961 in the L.A. area. When I was a boy in the 1940's my Dad paid cash or high down payment for a property. What ever happened to that? You had to sacrifice and save for many years to buy a small house then.
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kfolive1 year, 3 months ago
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I am really having a hard time understanding how ANYONE can be buying into the mccain line of crap! What is wrong with people that they can not seem to see the insanity of mccain/palin. I love my country but if they become the "leaders" of this country my family will move to another country until this one has some sanity restored.
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kfolive1 year, 3 months ago
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Was that supposed to have some hidden meaning? Yes there are places in the world that are worse and if you can not see, that is the direction we will be headed in with the republican ticket. There are also places that are better at this point. We will be going to one of those. What you call whining, we call common sense.
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usmarks1 year, 3 months ago
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No one wants to admit it but Bushco has done more damage to this country in every way than any number of jihadists. Our justice system, our financial system, our military, our Constitution, our electoral system, all in shreds. He's come close to killing his own party. I believe Lincoln would be happy to see the Republican Party die a natural death if he saw what the neocons have made of it. I spent the last weekend touring some of the sights of D.C. and I thought the whole time that GWB should have been required to do the same before he took the oath of office. It's all supposed to mean something. The Constitution isn't just a "g.d. piece of paper." The national treasury is more than daddy's bank account, tp plunder at your pleasure.
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tiredofwhiners1 year, 3 months ago
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Most of the no's were because of the people calling their representatives and tying up their phone lines all day long. They were about 99% telling them to vote no. Apparently it was mostly the Republicans who listened to their constituents but a lot of Democrats too.
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bigvtx1 year, 3 months ago
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if the american people would look at the whole picture and do there home work they might find alot of interesting stuff about there boy OBAMA who fully supports the bailout of fannie mae and freddi mac because he profits from it in more ways than one and when were these two monster companies started? clinton era? they give loans to people who don`t deserve them just because of there race or who they know and when they default it comes right back on the middle class to pay for it just like welfare and all the other failing depts of the government that give minorities, illegal aliens and low income people everything for free without making them accountable for it. but the middle class gets nothing but more taxes. go ahead all you star struck americans and vote democrat this year for a guy who has no experience at all but he tells you what you want to hear unless his telliprompter goes down. he is an (idiot)and if he gets elected canada or mexico is looking pretty good for a new home and citizenship because this country will go to hell quickly.
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Kat_Frm_Va31 year, 3 months ago
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Obama made light of the seriousness of the market. Obama made Americans think it was not a big deal. Well there is a lot of dumb people out there. Yesterday trillions of dallors were lost. Obama says I'll wait for a call and we have advisors! Some advisors he has. McCain has my vote. Obama is bad for the country. He just doesnt understand the econmy or national security. McCain and Palin 08!
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prokat1 year, 3 months ago
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How can this idiot McCain be blaming Obama for this mess.What did he say last week when he came on T.V. I am suspended my campaigning and going back to Washington to go to work to get something done he work one day.He look like am idiot on T.V. standing up there like he was the one that would get something done if he went back to Washington to work. Well it did not happen nothing got done so back to the trail he went so how can he blame Obama saying its polities is McCain in Washington today trying to work on this bill so something can be done NO he is not he is campaigning like Obama.McCain needs to take the blame for his on lies i guess he can kept on campaigning and Obama needs to go back to Washington so McCain can say look i am out here campaigning hard going from town to town working hard to get your vote and tell you what i will do for you when i get to Washington Where is Obama he not even campaigning he back in Washington doing nothing so McCain you need to think what you said last week.
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lloydm651 year, 3 months ago
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After the 2000 election all democrats were,not ask,but commanded to hate president Bush.Today these same democrats along with Obama are asking for all American to find enough hate,and disdain for America to try and bring it down.That is the best way they know to convert our our Republic to a Marxist,crawl on your belly,and beg society.Nancy Pelosi must think Obama is going give her part of the nation to run,not, all the communist leader were picked in Chicago a couple of years ago.I can't name all of them,but we all know William Ayers.an wife will be in charge of reeducation camps,Rev.Wright will handle the gulags,where whitey will be punished for being white.This is not a new idea many of our leaders have look forward to this day for many years.
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dougw8031 year, 3 months ago
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Bailout, just one question, why?
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Because big government says the sky is falling and we will all be doomed if Wall Street goes down? Ummm ... Remember "Weapons of Mass Destruction" ?
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brownsfan1 year, 3 months ago
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McCain's spin doesn't wash. He has lost the respect of the American people and even his own party. He can't even make sense anymore and contradicts himself at every turn. I am convinced the man is senile. He needs to retire now before he becomes an embarrasment to all AMERICANS!!!!
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MiamiBulldogs1 year, 3 months ago
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Look, let's not be appalled by McCain's (or for that matter, Palin's) behavior. In a country where "light" is now "lite" and everything is now "like ______" as opposed to actually being "______", I find it only logical that a two minute talking point and a 20 second flash on TV is all the general American populus wants for information. The powers running the 2008 Republican agenda know full well that both the Senator and his mysongenistic selection for a running mate will thrive when thier followers are fed cliches and ad-bites; they will continue present simplistic politico-psycho-babble that can be screamed and regurgitated at an intellectually indifferent citizenry, truth being a non-sequitur. I find THAT to be the ultimate in elitism.
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judy77771 year, 3 months ago
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McCain obviously didn't take math in school. The vote failed because more Republicans voted No then Democrates. Almost twice as many so how can he blame Oboma. More Democrates voted Yes so Obama should be thanked by McCain because they got it. McCain took time off the campaign trail to help get this bill passed. I guess he didn't help. What does that say for the Republican leader trying to become the next President. His own people he seems to not be able to sway to his thinking.
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benighse1 year, 3 months ago
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Here are the actual VOTES that BUSH, MCCAIN, BOEHNER and PALIN were able to convince their own REPUBLICAN representatives to help them out with today: 15 NO votes from Bush's Texas Republicans--ALL 4 NO votes from McCain's Arizona Republican delegation--Great job of leadership John, with help like that from friends, who needs enemies--And 7 NO votes from Boehner's OHIO Republican friends---And finally, Palin couldn't even convince her 1 good friend in Alaska to help her and John get this passed for their Republican Bush President. Those votes alone if these Republicans leaders could lead in their home states would have been enough to pass the $700 Billion bailout. NO REPUBLICAN LEADESHIP AT ALL HERE!!!....
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Republicans — Young, N.......
ARIZONA
Republicans — Flake, N; Franks, N; Renzi, N; Shadegg, N........
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Republicans — Barton, N; Brady, Y; Burgess, N; Carter, N; Conaway, N; Culberson, N; Gohmert, N; Granger, Y; Hall, N; Hensarling, N; Johnson, Sam, N; Marchant, N; McCaul, N; Neugebauer, N; Paul, N; Poe, N; Sessions, Y; Smith, Y; Thornberry, N........
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Republicans — Boehner, Y; Chabot, N; Hobson, Y; Jordan, N; LaTourette, N; Latta, N; Pryce, Y; Regula, Y; Schmidt, N; Tiberi, N; Turner, N......
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gwnichol1 year, 3 months ago
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This is the culmination of the so called "Reagan Revolution". Thanks to Reagan, both Bushes the the Republican controlled congress for the first seven years we are not only going to see the worst economic melt down since the Great Depression but also the biggest tax hike in U.S. history, no matter who gets elected, to pay for this debacle!
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Catshue1 year, 3 months ago
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Why aren't we spinning on McCain's envolvement with the Keating 5 tragedy that felled the savings and loan bailout in the 80's. Have we forgotten his envolement and McCain being reprimanded for his poor judgement and behavior....Let's get this factual message out there so everyone can remember how McCain flops on the truth.
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jga10724931 year, 3 months ago
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ok that was his beginning of his career and thank god he was not president now he has many years exp now you have obama whos done nothing for you and you want him to run with no exp and check his past horrible to much bad to write come on people this guy is a joke and he will do what the dems tell him so who is going to run the presidentcy the dems not obama he dont no any thing just talks thats why mccain will win in nov the truth will come out oh ya i was a dem when i did my home work the dems are only looking for political gain nothing for the people at this point of time so check info and i no you all will vote mccain
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antgne1 year, 3 months ago
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Look, people have put Obama in an impossible situation. Obama has been the most adult of them all. He has focused on the ISSUES; remember them? It's not about blame here you 12 year olds. It's about repairing the damage that has been done. Then putting the laws back in place that keep corporate America/Wall Street from screwing all of us. Now grow up people.
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jeff315721 year, 3 months ago
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Again our Government has shown us they are incapable of governing. It is not about which sides principles were correct but that they simply were unable to comprimise and find a middle ground in a bi-Partisan manner to solve what is obviously a potnetially disasterous situation that can effect every citizen in this country. Magically we are to belive that every on of these Elected officals have become sufficiently knowledgeable of the right solution...what a joke. I also suggest that the vast majority of US citizens fundementally lack the knowledge to decide what is right and what is wrong. There are however some things which are clear to all.
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1-Regular people are hurting and the pain is going to get worse.
2-There are many regular people who acted financially irresponsibly by taking mortgages they could not afford or playing the real estate game (Flilling houses) who are now in trouble
3-There are many people who have "Gamed" the system and realized inapporpriate wealth and benefit
4-There are many elected officals who both allowed this to happen and fueled the fire by the legislation they supported.
So what to do....
I suggest they should put one small but really meaningful (I think) requirement into the $700 Bil bail out..."Only the Mortgages for a persons primary official residence should be bailed out and renegotiated way down.. All others, "Second homes, Spec housing, etc etc should received nothing. It would work beautifully at leveling the field, supporting those really in need, keeping people in their homes, improving the level of broad consumer spending, unlocking credit, and making the slick wall street guys pay for their action(those bankers and Mortgage brokers who made those sub prime mortgages avaiable, and lastly it makes it much more reasonable for those who are responsible and still making their payments. -
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Hobe1 year, 3 months ago
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McCain is a Corrupt politician as his performance in the Keating Five savings and Loan Fraud that Cost hard Working Americans Billions of Dollars..
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Keating wa ssentenance to Five Years in Prision for his Fraud with Senator mcCain trying to aid him???
McCain is a Corrupt Washing PIG....
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Om1 year, 3 months ago
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McCain has made his bed with respect to the economy. He postponed his campaign to supposedly help with the bill and the vote. He made no difference, delivered nothing; in fact he impeded the process. The Republicans delivered less votes than the Demos, both in actual count and percentage of its members. Then McCain immediately came out and blamed Obama for the failure of the bill. He is delusional, reactionary and unfit to be commander-in-chief.
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In 2003, the Bush Administration recommended what the NY Times called "the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago". The changes were opposed along Party lines and eventually failed to happen. Representative Barney Frank (D-MA) claimed of the thrifts "These two entitled Fannie Mae and Freddie Mae are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...Representative Mel Watt (D-NC) added the process would weaken the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing. ----Why don't we have congressional investigations into why one of the biggest failures of judgment happen?????
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jga10724931 year, 3 months ago
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obama always throws the first stone he is a great talker on what people want BUT he really stands for political gain he didnt even help his party get the votes to busy bashing mccain this is why i would never vote for him and for the record he voted present for bailout the man is not about change hes about political gain and there is not one thing that hes done for the people on the record and check for yourself this man is a talker thats it come on people check it out this is about america not a party so if you want a talker who does not care about you and lies about how hes for change and will say just about anything to get your vote and check out his flipfloping to get your vote the man can not run a country atleast MCCAIN is for the people may not agree with everthing but he beleaves in AMERICA and the people and has a good past history thats why iam voteing for mccain AMERICA comes first
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mdaok1 year, 3 months ago
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95 OF THE DEMOCRATS VOTED NO ON THE BAILOUT BILL AND IT WAS THEIR DOINGS THAT SET UP THIS CRISIS, THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT BY JIMMY CARTER AND ADDED TO BY CLINTON IN 1995. THIS REGULATED fANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC AND REQUIRED BANKS TO GIVE A LARGER PORTION OF THE HOUSING LOANS TO LOW AND MODERATE-INCOME BORROWERS. IN 2003 AND 2005 THE REPUBLICANS ATTEMPTED TO ADD REGULATION TO THIS ACT TO ConTROL THE LENDING PRACTICES. THIS FAILED AS IT WAS SpLIT ALONG PARTY LINES MUCH AS THE BILL TODAY
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jga10724931 year, 3 months ago
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oh,one more thing most of the problems we have today in gov is dems only political gain not for the people and you can ckeck on this that majarity of dems since 2003 till now kept saying basiclly dont do nothing in cluding nancy polosi people look into this the facts are there but the dems think the people wont check they would listen to them blame all the rep and you would beleave because they have a great talker not a doer ABAMA
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