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Posted By txclimber 1 year, 1 month ago in Religion

A Christian book publisher says its next edition of the Bible will be handwritten by more than 31,000 Americans. Zondervan, located in Grand Rapids, MI, kicked off a 90-city, 15,000-mile cross-country tour Tuesday to mark the 30th anniversary of its popular New International Version translation of the book. The tour will stop at special events, churches and U.S. landmarks to allow people to write out Bible verses. (Should you wish to contribute a verse of your own, you can check the itinerary of the Bible Across America bus-cum-scriptorium here.)


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    Hubert391 year, 1 month ago

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    I always thought the Chrisitain needed their own Bible. The Jews wrote the present day Bible and made themselves the good guys.
    The bad thing? So many Americans quote the Bible that was written by the Jews/Hebrews.

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      428SCJ1 year, 1 month ago

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      If you think the jews are the good-guys,in the bible,you dont understand what youre reading.

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        OWENSSHERRYO1 year, 1 month ago

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        EVIDENTLY YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THE JEWS AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE WERE GOOD AND BAD. SOME WERE GOOD SOME WERE BAD JUST LIKE TODAY

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          sash141 year, 1 month ago

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          ABsolutely! There are good and evil in ALL of us!
          Christians, Jews, agnostics :)

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          antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago

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          The bible and the jesus mythology is a steaming pile of lies and complete crap.

          There is no end to what you blithering religious idiots will believe in.

          There is no evidence for any of the thousands of gods con men have created to fleece you sheeple in the hundreds of thousands of years con men have been fleecing idiots.

          I hope the instant before you brainwashed sheeple take your last breath, you realize there is no heaven, hell, jesus, angels, soul, and what ever else you inbred tent revival brainless snake handling freaks believe in, and you realize at that moment your worthless lives have been spent handing over the one life you had to a bunch of lies and con men.

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            everykneebow1 year, 1 month ago

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            antibrainwasher-you fool! When you are burning in hell then you will believe. Every knee will bow and EVERY tongue will confess that JESUS is LORD!

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              sweetone21 year, 1 month ago

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              Dear Antibrainwahed:

              I will be praying for you. You seem quite angry and in need of some love. So, in that spirit, I will pray for you, your soul, your family and that you may find peace!

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                jenni081 year, 1 month ago

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                Somebody needs some anger management...dude you have issues.

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                  BARJAWS1 year, 1 month ago

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                  Consider this: if religious idiots are wrong, and there is no heaven, what have they lost in the afterlife? Nothing. But if YOU, in all your wisdom, are WRONG and there is a hell, what have you lost? Everything. You might want to rethink your position.

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                    Coatl1 year, 1 month ago

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                    "what have they lost in the afterlife?"

                    They would have missed their real life waiting for an alterlife!

                    I know many people do believe in any kind of alterlife and still enjoy this life (my own brother among them), but I know many who's only purpose seem to be preparing for the next life.

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                      RickyDawkins1 year, 1 month ago

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                      "If you believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you have lost nothing--but if you don't believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you will go to hell. Therefore it is foolish to be an atheist."

                      This argument is known as Pascal's Wager *It has several flaws*

                      Firstly, it does not indicate which religion to follow. Indeed, there are many mutually exclusive and contradictory religions out there. This is often described as the "avoiding the wrong hell" problem. If a person is a follower of one religion, he may end up in another religion's version of hell.

                      Even if we assume that there's a God, that doesn't imply that there's one unique God. Which should we believe in? If we believe in all of them, how will we decide which commandments to follow?

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                      ric7771 year, 1 month ago

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                      After you die you will be resurrected some day and you will face Jesus, the one who loved you and died for you, because he cared enough to pay for yours and my sins. Jesus the one you ridicule today will sadly say to you, “Depart from me”. When you lay your head down tonight this will haunt you unless you’re too high to face reality.

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                        Coatl1 year, 1 month ago

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                        According to you Jesus "loved you and died for you, because he cared enough to pay for yours and my sins". But if you happen not to believe blindly what you're being told then "you will be resurrected some day" just so Jesus can "say to you, 'Depart from me' ".

                        Wow that's real love, isn't it?

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                        jma1 year, 1 month ago

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                        anitbrainwasher-- I pity you, you are in for a rude awakening.

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                          beatles651 year, 1 month ago

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                          Anti-brainwasher;
                          I'd rather live my life with knowledge and faith in Christ and, upon death, discover I was wrong, than to live my life without Him and upon death, discover that you were wrong.

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                            RickyDawkins1 year, 1 month ago

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                            This argument is known as Pascal's Wager *It has several flaws*

                            "If you believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you have lost nothing--but if you don't believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you will go to hell. Therefore it is foolish to be an atheist."

                            Firstly, it does not indicate which religion to follow. Indeed, there are many mutually exclusive and contradictory religions out there. This is often described as the "avoiding the wrong hell" problem. If a person is a follower of one religion, he may end up in another religion's version of hell.

                            Even if we assume that there's a God, that doesn't imply that there's one unique God. Which should we believe in? If we believe in all of them, how will we decide which commandments to follow?

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                            Inoit1 year, 1 month ago

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                            Amen Antibrainwasher!! I couldn't have said it better myself.

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                              Idobelieve1 year, 1 month ago

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                              WOW! This is your "lucky" day! Sweetone2 and I will take on praying you right on into Heaven! Expect a miracle ! God works in mysterious ways and you are now all set up to be prayed for just by posting what you did. Amazing! Meet ya in Heaven one day!

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                                ric7771 year, 1 month ago

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                                Amen! Well put!

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                                RainCity1 year, 1 month ago

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                                Anti-BrainWash,

                                My heart cries for you, it sounds like you were hurt by someone that was a Christian or called themself one. On Behalf of all true Christians I would like to apologize and ask your forgiveness if any Christian has hurt you. Take care I will be praying for you and hope to see you someday in Heaven.

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                                  JCRH21 year, 1 month ago

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                                  That explains why you are a loser...................

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                                    GoddaPap1 year, 1 month ago

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                                    Go to heaven and be happy :)

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                                      MadeInMississippi1 year, 1 month ago

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                                      Dear antibrainwasher,

                                      You are an idiot, but it's OK... God still loves you!

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                                        adamcomment1 year, 1 month ago

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                                        Even if your point is correct, which is doubtful, it's even more doubtful that your particularly acerbic outlook and approach to the dignity of others will have contributed to humanity's overall state compared to the contributions of major religionists, such as Jesus or the Buddha.

                                        You seek to bully and insult people of faith, while descrying the abuses of religion?!?

                                        Ugh, just another kind of oppressive faith parading in the guise of non-faith...

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                                          summer311 year, 1 month ago

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                                          John 3:16

                                          "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"

                                          I don't about ya'll but that's enough proof to me that there is a Heaven and hell. Your not supposed to deny God that's blashepmy, and that is unforgivable. I don't see how anyone can believe that there is no God, I can go outside and look around at the mountain, the sky, the trees, and feel that God exists. He's the Creator. How can anyone doubt that?

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                                            nothingtoloose1 year, 1 month ago

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                                            I hope for YOUR SAKE that you are right and I am wrong, however, if you are wrong, I hate to think what you will see after you take your last breath.

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                                              tambrady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                              I really do feel for you , You can not tell me that there are not time that you feel something in your heart and it just want go a way until you do something about it , that is when God is dealing with you and you really need to listen to what he is trying to tell you because some day he will stop trying . you have to be open minded to allow God to work in your life and from what i read you are very closed minded about the subject. i am sorry and will pray for you

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                                                SHE19621 year, 1 month ago

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                                                ANTIBRAINWASHER
                                                I hope and pray before you take your last breath you realize there is a heaven and that Jesus died on the cross for your sins that you may have everlasting life.

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                                                  bbcre8iv1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                  And I hope and PRAY that the moment before you draw your last breath that you realize that God is real, that He loves you and that He sent His Son Jesus to die for you and that at that point you will accept Him as Savior. Be assured of this - if you don't realize it the moment BEFORE you draw your last breath, you will be acutely of it the moment AFTER you draw it. Of course then your opportunity will be lost and hell will be suddenly very real to you.

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                                                    regalred1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                    GOD help you when you wake up in hell one day and remember that what we "sheep" believe in in the real thing.

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                                                      BornAgainBeliever1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                      What if you're right? And the Bible is "a steaming pile of lies and complete crap" as you put it? I guess you'll have your satisfaction.

                                                      But what if you're wrong? What if there's a brand new life that could be yours if you'd just open your eyes? What if there's peace that passes understanding and joy unspeakable and full of glory that you could have had? What if there's eternal life for the righteous, and eternal damnation for the unrighteous, and you miss it?

                                                      I'll take my chances that you're wrong. I like the promises in the Bible, and I like the life I live as a believer. It's a good life living for the Lord.

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                                                        RickyDawkins1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                        Even if we assume that there's a God, that doesn't imply that there's one unique God. Which should we believe in? If we believe in all of them, how will we decide which commandments to follow?

                                                        "If you believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you have lost nothing--but if you don't believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you will go to hell. Therefore it is foolish to be an atheist."

                                                        This argument is known as Pascal's Wager *It has several flaws*

                                                        Firstly, it does not indicate which religion to follow. Indeed, there are many mutually exclusive and contradictory religions out there. This is often described as the "avoiding the wrong hell" problem. If a person is a follower of one religion, he may end up in another religion's version of hell.

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                                                          Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                          So you're saying someone should join every religion?

                                                          :)

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                                                            RickyDawkins1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                            no, only the one True religion

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                                                        VLAFFEY1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                        OH MY, I FEEL SO SORRY FOR YOU. WHEN YOU ARE DRAWING YOUR LAST BREATH ON THIS EARTH...THINK OF GOD. YOU WILL BE STANDING THERE ASKING FOR ENTRANCE TO HEAVEN AND HE IS GONNA SAY...."YOU WANT TO DO WHAT????"

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                                                      fayeh1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                      Hubert - You apparently no little about the Bible or Christianity. To make a statement that you "think that Christian's need their own Bible" is pretty ridiculous. Who do you think the Bible belongs to? Are you stating that the entire Bible belongs to the Jews so somehow Christians shouldn't use it? Secondly, the Jewish people do not believe that the New Testament is part of the Bible. They only use the old Testament. Thus, the reason the Jews don't believe that Jesus is the son of God. I'm not even sure I have a clue what you're talking about with the statement "So many Americans quote the Bible that was written by the Jews". Yep. And so do Germans quote the same bible and Italians, etc. I don't even know what point you're trying to make with that.

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                                                        AG1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                        Exactly...Satan's been able to distort the idea of THE WORD and people buy into it. Just ask one question before looking into all of this: Is the Bible today that proclaims Jesus is the Christ not good enough for you? you need more? was it not clear enough for you? If not...pray that he would open the eyes of YOUR heart!

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                                                          THETOYBOX1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                          THE BIBLE IS: GOD'S WORD. PLEASE THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU CHANGE ANYTHING. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY!!!!!

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                                                            antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                            No, moron, the bible is a collection of jewish fairy tales.

                                                            You know, with this many morons, its impossible to have democracy. Democracy depends of an educated populace, it cannot exist with a critical mass of delusional inbred snake handling morons who believe the earth is 4000 years old and was created from the fart gas of the baby jeeeeeeeesus.

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                                                              ppiittuu1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                              who believes the earth is 4000 years old. and who is "jeeeeeeeeesus?"

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                                                            giftedvision1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                            Woe to them who take their last breathe and realize that it was not a lie but indeed the truth and spend ETERNITY in a firey existence. What is our short lifetime compared to eternity? Easy to believe in man's technological ability but hmmmmmm...... where did he get it? Certainly not from a tadpole they still exist and still swim and turn into frogs

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                                                            morochos1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                            "THE JEWS" as you put it, did not write the Bible. It was given by G/d. Did you know that Jesus was born a "JEW", lived his life as a "JEW" and died as a "JEW"? It was Peter who started the religion after Jesus died. So if you so much dont like the "JEWS", you might as well not like Jesus.

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                                                              toph19731 year, 1 month ago

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                                                              If the bible was written by god, then how is it that it is historically and factually innacturate?

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                                                                PapaCookie1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                Two books you should read before spouting off that the bible is in error or is not translated correctly...

                                                                Evidence that Demands a Verdict
                                                                More Evidence that Demands a Verdict
                                                                Author: Josh McDowell..

                                                                These two books were written as his Thesis in College.
                                                                Great reads both of them.

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                                                                  toph19731 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                  I'd rather take the historical record as apposed to someone with an agendat to prove themselves right.

                                                                  Per historical records from egypt the Exodeous was impossible as there were no slaves in Egypt. The ten plagues actually happened between 1200 and 600 bc. Due to a volcano erupting. The Arc would have had to also carry marine life considering that there would have been a massive desalinization of the planet's oceans. The bible is nothing but a book of myths.

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                                                                    Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    No slaves in Egypt? Even the ANE texts disagree with you there. Sorry. Plenty of slaves in Egypt. Not to mention plenty of slaves held by Jews, too.

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                                                                  01cobra1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                  If you really studied the Bible and correct history you'll see the Bible has never and will never be incorrect. But you have to put in the effort to see that...

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                                                                    1Tim112171 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    toph1973,
                                                                    Are you 100% positive of the accuracy of your comment? ;-)
                                                                    I've toured Israel twice, seen many historically and archeologically confirmed biblical sites. Can you honestly say you have done a thourough research of your own to prove God's Word contains errors? Many FORMER atheist have taken the challenge; i.e. C.S. Lewis, Lee Stroble, Josh Mc Dowell, I'm sure you can look up many others. If you are right, then prove it, if you are wrong, God will show you who He is and be merciful towards you. Sincerely, 1 Tim. 1:12-17

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                                                                      toph19731 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                      See above how the historical record proves major parts of the bible incorrect.

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                                                                        1Tim112171 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                        What is the probability of 1 "Man" fulfilling over 300 Old Testament prophecies?
                                                                        Have you ever read the Bible? The answer to the above question is beyond computation, yet all the prophecies have been fulfilled in Jesus Christ, see for yourself.

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                                                                          1Tim112171 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                          Also, see what the Historian Josephus had to say about Jesus the Christ being the Jewish Messiah.

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                                                                    smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    First let me say that the Jews did indeed write the old Testament but the New Testament was written by Christians.... The Jews do not believe that Jesus was God's son.... They belive that he had come but IS NOT the son of God.... sorry!!

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                                                                      mechkelly31 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                      For someone who doesn't believe, you sure do know a lot...

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                                                                      Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                      I hate to burst your bubble. But it was all written by Jews. Jesus and all of the early Christians were Jews.

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                                                                      monet5311 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                      The Bible speaks of false prophets that will arise during his earth's final days. ONLY with thine eyes will you behold the reward of the wicked.....I think people have taken their wicked ways too far, they have allowed the devil to completely distort their minds. NOW THEY WANT TO REWRITE GOD'S WORD! Their END will be VERY DARK!

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                                                                        dgvast1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                        we are warned about changing God's Word

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                                                                          antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                          God speaks only by farting and tap dancing. Apparently you've inhaled a toxic amount of the holy fart gas, since your obviously incapable of rationality.

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                                                                            tambrady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                            yes we are in the 22 chapter of revelation verse 19

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                                                                              watchingU6671 year ago

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                                                                              there are so many innacuracies in that dumb-ass fictional book that they HAVE to redo it and as for that fiery hell for eterniy b.s. that was added when the catholics redid it (u know when they banned the bilble for 100 years) i gdess they wasn't getting enough fools so they needed to use terror tactics and boy they really turned them out then!! read dantes hell which he wrote out of spite to terrorize his colleagues.hell used to be nothind but pergatory, forever dead. chritians check your bible, your god is the god of darkness so when you die stay away from the light!! simple facts tear your religion apart, the age of the planet, the age of men and i bet none of you know that eve was a replacemnet for isabelle who at the request of adam he sentenced to eternity as a succubis to forever eat childrens soul. any of you religious retards want me to prove what i've said or even tell you more just reply. i dare you.

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                                                                            mj312b1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                            I agree with MONET531. You are fools to think any sane Christian will believe the clap trap garbage that these people will put into print. What is happening today in this world is so bad I think that it is getting God pretty angry and if he were to decide to end it all I for one would not blame him.

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                                                                              antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                              Oh, lovely, another endtimer moron like Sara Palin, who yearns for the rapture, thinking you are the chosen one.

                                                                              The following is the difference between the Teliban and Facist Relicicon evangelical creationists:

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                                                                              Xela1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                              Your comments show your intellect! The article does not say the bible is going to be rewritten or changed, it says that the current bible is going to be printed in people's own handwriting!!

                                                                              LOL Thanks for my morning laugh.

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                                                                                youthpastornoel1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                You are really missing the point. The Bible is not being "re-wirtten" on the tour. It's being hand-written by people. It's just copying the NIV in hand-written form.

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                                                                                  mechkelly31 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                  Then why bother. Go to church or read it and ask God to interpret it for you. We only need one bible!!!

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                                                                                  disgusted71 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                  Pastornoel
                                                                                  And who is going to be able to read everyones handwriting? Years later someone will get ahold of the 'handwritten version' and will think it says one thing-and it will be wrong. And who is going to proof read it? I think it's the STUPIDEST idea.

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                                                                                    ddavel5441 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                    ...But no doubt ...they will write in ..."homosexuality is an acceptable form of love for God"..

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                                                                                    swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                    Actually, considering all the innumerable translations and what gets lost in translation, it's already been altered. Unless you're reading the original hebrew, aramaic or greek, depending on the book, you're reading something rewritten. Just sayin'.

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                                                                                    PJohn49801 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                    The Bible was written/inspired by God. And Jesus was a JEW! Makes sense to me.

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                                                                                      nukedc1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                      You seem to have a little Anti-Semitic problem. Maybe you should word yourself more carefully, unless you're just an idiot. Apparently you don't realize that Christians ARE Jews. Christianity is a religion of belief that Jewish prophesy of a Messiah has already been fulfilled. Modern Judaism is a belief that Jewish prophesy has not yet been fulfilled.

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                                                                                        mechkelly31 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                        If you people were truely Christians, you would remember not to judge. All people are equal under the eye of the Lord. Stop Judging. The bible was written and is the history of that period. You need to have a relationship with the Lord to do the right things. I don't think the bible should be re-written...

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                                                                                          shannabmc1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                          TO EVERYONE WHO THINKS THAT THEY ARE WRITING A NEW VERSION OF THE BIBLE, please re-read the article!!! They are only COPYING the verses of the NIV version and making a hand-written copy of the NIV version of the Bible. Several people have commented that this is the case, but a lot of people still aren't getting it!! Tha article should have said that they are publishing a new edition, not a new version.

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                                                                                            cjsmay1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                            Forget the bible. It is superstition, myth and lies.God would not embrase the idea that one person is better than another person.Faith is believing in something you know is not true.They taught you in school that truth is backed by evidense, facts and witnesses,none of which are supporting the bible. The bible is a book of fiction and superstition.If we keep supporting this teaching ,we will soon loose our freedom.

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                                                                                              klc1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                              You poor soul. I bet you are the kind of person that looks forward to Friday's and Saturday's but has never given a thought to eternity. You must be so very unhappy and confused. If you would read the Bible and keep an "open" mind, and ask God to open your mind and heart, He will let you understand what it is all about. And if you look into your history books you will see that there IS "evidence" of all truth in the Bible. Our country is based on freedom of religion and belief in God. Without it we would never have come as far as we are today. I will pray for you, my friend, as you are gonna need God one day and when that day comes, I hope you will know Him and recognize who He is.

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                                                                                                lowhybred091 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                What events in the bible are backed by facts in history books? That's ridiculous, I've never once read a history book that confirmed religous events as fact. That just shows how blindly you religous finatics will believe.

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                                                                                                  Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                  Educate yourself. Above I posted three things that people used to try and repudiate the Bible by saying the Bible was wrong. Then the archaeologists, some trying to prove it wrong, found that the Bible was 100% accurate with what has been found by archaeology as of today.

                                                                                                  There is currently digs uncovering Sodom and Gomorrah. I know one of the archaeologists and they have not done much writing on this topic yet. That will come out in a year or two. some of the information is on this site.

                                                                                                  http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a007.htm...

                                                                                                  Your ignorance is underwhelming. The more that archaeologist dig the more of factual evidence is created that the historic writings in the Bible are exactly correct.

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                                                                                                RAHCORP1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                YOU'RE AN IDIOT, YOU CANT EVEN SPELL.

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                                                                                                  DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                  spelling is not a sign of intelligence...merely good attendance

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                                                                                                  DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                  ''Forget the bible. It is superstition, myth and lies''

                                                                                                  have you ever read it, or have you let other people represent it for you?

                                                                                                  ''Faith is believing in something you know is not true.''

                                                                                                  Faith is not belief so much as trust and expectation. you know, like having faith the Browns will win the Super Bowl someday-we don't ever believe it, just hope for it. Or having faith in a person who you think highly of.

                                                                                                  of course you are allowed to have your own dictionary and definitions- I think I'm handsome

                                                                                                  the bible defines faith as the expectation of things hoped for but not seen

                                                                                                  so it's the things we don't see that are important [except for ham sandwiches] Love, trust, understanding, faith in our fellow humans are all fair examples

                                                                                                  for instance we can see the results of love, the evidence of it, in a sense, but we cannot see love. But we feel it. We believe in it. And if you've ever loved anyone, you sorta have to have faith they love you back

                                                                                                  so faith is not 'believing in something that you know is not true', anymore than real love is believing a lie...more like believing and hoping and trusting in something, which is a prerequisite for existence and the bread and butter of a worthwhile existence, love itself

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                                                                                                    kameragurl1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                    DEADXXXMANXXXWALKIN, I will pray for you that you will know that the Bible IS NOT myths and lies. In the New Testament, words said by God are written in red. I believe in God that He is The Creator of all things.

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                                                                                                  babeykade1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                  Hubert,

                                                                                                  I agree completely. I myself am a Christian and am saddened by the fact that so many of my fellow brothers and sisters don't know their history. To even truly understand Christianity, you must first dive into the depths of Judaism. You'd think people wouldn't have a problem with this as Jesus was a Jew! However, some people seem to want to cut you down over the Crucifixion. On their behalf, I apologize. The problem is, even Jesus forgave the specific people who crucified him. Therefore, we should also. =0)

                                                                                                  And as for the bible being handwritten, they're only allowing them to re-write versus provided to them so that its appeal is more real, rather than computer generated. I think that's kind of cool! Now if it were allowing whoever to write whatever, I'd think we'd have some serious issues on our hands!

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                                                                                                    LDF1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                    I think they meant that people will use thier own handwritting to write actual bible verses... I could be wrong though

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                                                                                                    danigrl891 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                    Ok well considering that Jesus was jewish, and it was only after his death that the christian faith came outit kinda makessince that people who share the christian faith use this bible. and thank you for stating that christians need their own bible. that is a very ignorant comment. i suggest that you look more into the background of religions u don't understand

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                                                                                                      antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                      Never, in the hundred thousand year history of humanity, has there been a shred of evidence for the existance of any of the thousands of gods. you imbeciles have created to explain things you are too stupid to comprehend.

                                                                                                      You bible thumping morons are the scum of the earth, no better than the Teliban.

                                                                                                      Never in the history of the earth, has there been any evidence for an afterlife, despite which you morons grovel around and waste your pathetic worthless meaningless lives hoping for some endless existance. Idiots.

                                                                                                      Never in the history of the planet has there been one shred of evidence for gods, soul, afterlife, devil, miricles, demi-gods (jesus, hercules), angles, virgin birtth, or any of the other idiotic crap you less than morons brainwash your inbred children into believing, posioning their minds.

                                                                                                      religion is a steaming cauldren of liquid crap.

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                                                                                                        AVPrinter1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                        Wow! Convincing. You've "anti-brainwashed" me genius.

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                                                                                                          RLH1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                          After you die you will be resurrected some day and you will face Jesus, the one who loved you and died for you, because he cared enough to pay for yours and my sins. Jesus the one you ridicule today will sadly say to you, “Depart from me”. When you lay your head down tonight this will haunt you unless you’re too high to face reality.

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                                                                                                            ginaq1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                            WOW! Antibrainwasher,

                                                                                                            You sound like a very happy person whose life is so full of meaning! I have a quote for you that came to mind after reading your posts:

                                                                                                            The majority of mankind is lazy-minded, incurious, absorbed in vanities, and tepid in emotion, and is therefore incapable of either much doubt or much faith; and when the ordinary man calls himself a skeptic or unbeliever, that is ordinarily a simple pose, cloaking a disinclination to think anything out to conclusion.
                                                                                                            T. S. Elliot

                                                                                                            I would recommend that you put some of your anger aside and do some of your own research with an open mind. Start with some apologetics and then maybe move on to the science that absolutlely supports Christianity. The internet provides myriad resources. It is my prayer for you that you will be filled with the life changing, revelation knoweledge that Jesus is Lord and He loves you right where you are.

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                                                                                                              ALYCOR1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                              to antibrainwasher, First learn to spell before you make your meaningless statements about which, you have proven, don't know squat about...back up your story by citing examples if you have any, which I doubt...you probably, because of your narrow mind and big ego, don't even know that the first 5 books of the bible are called the Penteteuch and were written by Moses circa (that means "about") 1400B.C....oh yeah, God doesn't believe in Atheists either!

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                                                                                                                Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                Gee, I thought they were called the Torah.

                                                                                                                LOL

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                                                                                                                tambrady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                why would you say gods there is only one jesus

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                                                                                                                Kattsondra1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                Umm. Yes the Old Testament was written by the Jews in Hebrew. The New Testament was written by the "Christians" or the followers of Jesus, after he died. The New Testament was written mostly in Greek. Several years after it was written, the Catholic Priest decided what books should go into the Bible. Even today the Catholics have a different Bible than Mainstream Christianity. (No I am not Catholic but I have Catholic friends, and I summarized the several hours of conversations we had.)

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                                                                                                                  swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                  You're right, but a lot of Christian sects - particularly those in Africa, the Middle East and Eastern Europe (Coptics, Ethiopian Church, Eastern Orthodox), who are much older than even Anglicans, the oldest Western European offshoot of Catholicism - have more or less books in their canon than mainstream American Christians. That's why it's so important to understand that the Bible is, dare I say it, an evolving book. It cannot be firmly set in stone because people across the ages have given and taken from it.

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                                                                                                                    Kattsondra1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                    With that being said, MY belief is that the Bible we have today is the one God wants us to have otherwise He wouldn't have inspired the ones who choose those books the give us the Bible we have today... Does that make any sense??

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                                                                                                                      swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                      I can see your point, but it doesn't hurt to read the other books. God, or at least wisdom, is there, too, and some late antiquity Jewish works that were left out of Christian canon had a great influence on Jesus' message. You don't get the "Holy crap!" correlations until you read them, though.

                                                                                                                      Honestly, a lot of the book choices were political at the time. I'm not trying to shoot you down, although it sounds like I am. -_-* (sigh) I understand that God works through his own means, but just because a book was left out doesn't mean it he didn't like it.

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                                                                                                                  AVPrinter1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                  The Bible is not a do it yourself book. If you "make your own" it is just that - your book, not "The" Bible, which is God's book.

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                                                                                                                    swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                    Check out my above post and read some history.

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                                                                                                                    kes10031 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                    I am sure you know by now, that they are not writing a "New" Bible, but handwriting the Bible that exists - NIV version. Each person will be allowed to copy by hand a verse from the NIV Bible and Zondervan will publish this Bible. The Bible that exists today is for Christians and a new one is not needed.

                                                                                                                    Karen

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                                                                                                                      mdeidre1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                      "The Jews" did not "write" the entire Bible, nor did they "write" the entire Old Testement, they use the first five books of the Old Testement in their Torah, the ones believed to be the word of God as He revealed it to Moses. The rest was put together from various sources by Christians probably a little over a thousand years ago. There are no good or bad guys in the Bible as far as the humans are concerned, the only "good" or "bad" would be God and Satan. Why must people always be so nasty and ignorant when it comes to religion? If you call yourself a Christian, then you need to try to be Christ-like (hence the name Christian) and not be judgemental or nasty against other people. He believed in educating oneself in the word of God, also, by the way. He was also born, lived and died as a Jew and interceded for their forgiveness from God as one of His last acts before dying.

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                                                                                                                        wintermouse13891 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                        They are not creating a whole new Bible, they are just taking the one that already exists, and putting it into a handwritten format.

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                                                                                                                          HIS-BRIDE1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                          What, Where do you think the Bible came from. Jewish scrolls that were transscribed by men. They are not writing a new Bible,word of God. They are writing it out by hand, 31,000 to be exact.

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                                                                                                                            supertky1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                            yes the jews wrote most of the new testament and all of the old but they did not make them the good guys. and obivously you dont understand that the bible is the word of god and you cant just right your own word of god unless your mormon....or a cult....which is one in the same.....jews are gods chosen people, his first people so thats why they wrote all the informtion and not the christans. to set the record straight read the bible and the read a jewish histroy book and lets see how they came ahead.

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                                                                                                                            lakerman1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                            Someone should explain the purpose of a "new Bible" being written. For those who follow the bible of the ages; is there suddenly the need for a new bible> Christians believe that the current bible was written under the power of the Holy Spirit of the Almighty God. Whose power & influence will this new bible be written under. Hopefully there is more to this story, otherwise I am confused.

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                                                                                                                              escorban1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                              I believe the only reason to "write" another Bible is pure Marketting. Will have the input of interested individuals with different points of view. This is dangerous, persons working in this project need not be spirit filled, new born or have GODS aprooval

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                                                                                                                                Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                "This is dangerous, persons working in this project need not be spirit filled, new born or have GODS aprooval"

                                                                                                                                This is crap. I don't know a single English translation that has 'God's aprooval' (sic). Those that copied the Bible during the numerous years (centuries) it was written and compiled were not "new born" because the ridicuous theology of being 'born again' hadn't been developed yet. And frankly who the hell are you to judge whether or not these people are filled with, inspired by or blessed by the Holy Spirit?

                                                                                                                                It's disgusting how little most Christians know about their own sacred texts. Especially the solid, uncontestable fact that the majority of Bible readers read it in translation from a high-context language (Hebrew, Aramaic, Coptic, Greek) to an extremely low and non-specific language (English). There is a frighteningly large amount of detail and specificity lost in the translations. Plus most people never consider societal, historical context in what they're reading.

                                                                                                                                Disgusting.

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                                                                                                                                  RickyDawkins1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                  And the original bible is written by men too. Funny you call them "sacred". I find it disgusting the way Christians all (most) assume they are better than the next.

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                                                                                                                                    Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                    It seems kind of hypocritical to chastise Christians for assuming they are better than the next while simultaneously implying that you are (or your knowledge is) better ;)

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                                                                                                                                      RickyDawkins1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                      However, you must agree that they can't all be better than the next.

                                                                                                                                      I'm a true Christian, are you?

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                                                                                                                                antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                Why not write another bible, there has been over a hundred religious pulled out of the rectums of lying blathering morons just this century.

                                                                                                                                There is no end to what you sheep will believe. You blithering idiots are pigeons to be plucked by con men. Morons.

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                                                                                                                                fayeh1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                Lakerman -- They aren't re-writing the Bible. It will wind up being a handwritten Bible with each person copying a verse of the Bible. The word "new" is a bit confusing. It makes it sound like someone is coming up with a new version and that is not the case at all.

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                                                                                                                                  wllgarn11 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                  Ever one needs to read the last chapter of the King James version. No one is to add or take away from the wording of the HOLY BIBLEOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                                                                                    fayeh1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                    wilgarn - no one is adding to it. They are COPYING it. It will be a handwritten copy of the Bible.

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                                                                                                                                      Rebel16201 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                      fayeh the N I V Bible is reworded from the from the first Bible which is the KING JAMES VERSION.

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                                                                                                                                        fullboat1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                        lol!!! KING JAMES VERSION is NOT the first bible!!! it was rewritten from the hebrew version so King James could read it himself instead of it being read to him by scolars, just as th NIV was written to make it easier for people of modern times to understand.

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                                                                                                                                          mountainbiker7771 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                          The original Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek and TRANSLATED into "olde english" by King James as there were Latin versions before and the newer modern NIV and New KJ versions which are direct translations and even paraphrased really new translated versions like the Living Bible or New Living Bible. Get a KJ and a NKJ and a NLB and read the differences and see how close thus sayeth the Lord and the Lord says really is. it's good to have a preference you feel comfortable with but some versions make it real easy to BEGIN to understand the word, heart, and mind of God.

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                                                                                                                                            fayeh1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                            Rebel620- Do you honestly believe that the King James Version was the first Bible?? The King James version is an English translation published in 1611. That hardly makes it the first Bible. Every version you read in English is someone elses translation of Greek and Hebrew text.

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                                                                                                                                          fullboat1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                          you do of course realize that the king james version is not the original writing of the bible, it is just that , a version. it was written so that king james could read his own bible instead of his scolars having to interpet it from the original hebrew that it was written in. much like the NIV was written so modern people could better understand.

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                                                                                                                                            WW21 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                            Altough you para phrased the quote from the bible about adding and taking away. That is what motivated the King James interpretation, it was concieved and written as a way to express a different interpretation. Good or bad KJ is contrary to the biblical passage you referenced

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                                                                                                                                              foakingaah1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                              the kjv of bible is a changed version of the "bible" Rev. 22-19 read it for yourselfs so too even add,takeaway or translate is change of it and not of "GOD" so might i sugest that all find the bible in original written form too use instead of any and all revised versions king sponcered or not ty

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                                                                                                                                                MY1231 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                The last verse in the Bible, to not add or take away anything from this book, does NOT refer to the entire New Testament nor to the Old Testament. It refers strictly to the Book of Revelation. There was no New Testament until the 4th century AD. In addition, several of the books of the New Testament were written AFTER the Book of Revelation was written. I'm not in favor of revising the Bible but stop misquoting scriptures that don't apply to your point.

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                                                                                                                                                shooter7621 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                1) I don't think that wilgarn1 cares about the facts... his comment sounds like the same fundamental Christian nonsense that condems anyone who has a different interpretation of the Bible's message to the never ending fires of hell... or something like that.
                                                                                                                                                2) Why does anyone care about a group of people writing... or re writing the Bible? Wasn't the original version written by a group of people?

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                                                                                                                                                  vandeewine1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                  Yes, it was. The supposed "Word of God" was written by PEOPLE, not God. Their NAMES are on the books themselves. Book of John? Written by John, not God. Same with Matthew, Mark, Luke and all the other books with the author's names on them. And that doesn't even include the members of the Catholic church who assembled and edited the books of the Bible in the late 400's, choosing which books to put in, which to leave out and which ones to re-interpret as they saw fit, i.e. that meshed with their world view and was consistent with what they wanted people to think and do.

                                                                                                                                                  It's a complete sham and to call it "The Word of God" is insulting. It's the word of humans, make no mistake -- humans who were in power and interested in keeping other humans who weren't in power under their thumb.

                                                                                                                                                  Thus, it's appropriately ironic that this new version will be "written" by humans... because that's the way it all started anyway.

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                                                                                                                                                  youthpastornoel1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                  You are really missing the point. The Bible is not being "re-wirtten" on the tour. It's being hand-written by people. It's just copying the NIV in hand-written form.

                                                                                                                                                  And the Bible was written by man, but inspired by God.

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                                                                                                                                                    vandeewine1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                    I think it's important to note that the term "inspired by God" should be taken with a grain of salt. After all, the 19 men who rammed our jetliners into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon were also "inspired by God".

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                                                                                                                                                    David19611 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                    Everyone needs the Bible Jews and Gentiles alike. The Jews are Gods chosen people for reasons we may not understand. It does not matter if we understand or not. That's Gods business. I am a Baptist and we ..like all other christians are told to "Judge not lest ye be judged" so think about it folks. Just Love one another and let God sort out the rest. Have a great day, Dave

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                                                                                                                                                      GODSHOOD1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                      Thank you Dave for a positive and real answer to the question. The word says that the bible is for NO private interpretation.

                                                                                                                                                      Keep praying ><>

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                                                                                                                                                      smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                      When are you crazy christians going to realize that Jesus was invented as a (back in his day) cult... God was created to explain things that could not be explained and you retards are still baaaahbaaahing to this guy! None of you have any idea if he truly lived! if he is black, white or purple.... get over it. Bible's should be burned!!!! NOT re-written!!!! Stop with all this BS!!!

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                                                                                                                                                        Nicaragua1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                        I will pray for you. Your mind is warped, for sure. You need to read the Bible and pray that your soul will be changed so that you will live in Eternity with our Lord.

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                                                                                                                                                          smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                          don't pray for me... I don't need saving!!!! F*** the lord and the bible..... when it can be explained why I had to give up my daughter "to the lord" when so many mothers TODAY are killing thiers? Give me a break,,,, where the f*** was your god then??? Please!!!! Another bunch of BS!!!

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                                                                                                                                                            maxlayback1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                            I'm in agreement with most of the people here. My only problem is that I beleive in a higer Being a Creator, a Supreme Being Etc, but not a word of what the bible has to offer. Interesting read, as it is , it is to inconsistant, and unbelivible. There are facts missing, and things that are just to impossible to explain (using the word Faith doesnt explain a thing). I do however believe itn the bibles ultimate lesson , which is to live a good life. Other than that , it is no different froma any other book about "gods". Just my opinion...

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                                                                                                                                                              klportr1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                              I am so so sorry for the loss of your child, but I feel even worse that people will say It was God's will or God only takes the best, or some such nonsense. Bad things happen to good people because of evil. Mabe not your sin, but sin. Sin is the cause of all bad things, not God. The wages of sin is death. God gets the blame. He loves you anyway. God is love. Ask him to reveal himself to you.

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                                                                                                                                                            DGHodgesRN1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                            You are right, I don't REALLY know if things happened the way they said in the Bible because I wasn't there to see it. But, this is where the term "faith" comes into play. I believe in God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I would rather believe every word the Bible says than to suffer the consequences when Jesus comes again. If it ends up not being true, I haven't lost anything. If it is true, I will live in eternity. I choose to except that Jesus died for our sins and we should try to live the best life we can while we are here. We make our own decisions in what we believe, and we will suffer the consequences of those decisions.

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                                                                                                                                                              smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                              I live my life as best as it can be, I pay taxes, abide by the law , and generally a good person! I donate to charities and hep feed the poor in my neighborhood. So if I don't believ in GOD then I'm damned to hell??? Please?!!! What you do in your life will determine how you pass on.... I belive in the after life and spirits.... but I do NOT believe in the bible!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                humbleman1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                smiley111..you have obviously endured pain. What we don't understand, we sometimes blame God. I and other Christians
                                                                                                                                                                will pray for you to know God and the day you accept the
                                                                                                                                                                only One who can heal you, Jesus Christ, remember the day we
                                                                                                                                                                started doing so and prayer is real. God did not lose His son,
                                                                                                                                                                He gave His son for your sins. I can't make you understand this but God's Spirit will be there in a small still voice telling you what I say is true and is not from me, but from
                                                                                                                                                                Him. Until then, I will pray for your pain to not be so bad.
                                                                                                                                                                I am sorry for you loss.

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                                                                                                                                                                  smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                  NO!!! don't pray for me... I don't need prayer.... I need my daughter back and that's not going to happen...... I don't blame anyone, there is no one to blame.... Everyone says he's here with me..... NO THE F*** HE ISN'T!!!!!!! I can't even look at a baby girl because I cry , everyday, almost all day and it's been 3 years I have no other children, she was my first.... I appreciate your condolences but please DO NOT PRAY FOR ME....

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                                                                                                                                                                  akbsr19681 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                  JUST SUPPOSE THERE IS A GOD,AND THESE ARE HIS RULES,HERE U R DOIN WHAT A CHRISTIAN SUPPOSE TO DO IN ESSENCE,BUT REFUSE TO READ OR ACHKNOWLEDGE HIM.IF U R WRONG THEN U WILL LOSE, IF IAM RIGHT THEN I GET ETERNITY WITH HIM.THERE IS A HIGHER POWER WHETHER WE ADMIT IT OR NOT.MY BROTHER GIVE GOD A CHANCE . WE FALL SHORT NOT HIM!THIS GOING TO END, SIGNS ARE ALL IN THE AIR BIBLICAL PROPHECIES.

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                                                                                                                                                                smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                again!!! DON'T pray for me... I don't need saving, just because I would rather not believe in this cult bs, I will have to face "god" OH NO!!!! I'm scared now... ? Not really.... explain why bas things happen to good people and then I may change my views

                                                                                                                                                                Ps. I am a woman!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                  ANDTHENTHEREWERENONE1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                  MISTER HAVE YOU GOT A SURPRISE COMING WHEN YOU DIE AND HAVE TO FACE GOD AND ANSWER TO HIM FOR YOUR STUPID THOUGHTS AND WORDS. I PRAY THAT GOD WILL BLESS YOU BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANY BODY ELSE WILL. HAVE A BLESSED DAY.

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                                                                                                                                                                    cmdlogan1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                    Bad things happen to good people so that they can grow & learn lessons. Happiness can not come in the absence of sorrow. God still believes & loves you even if you have chosen not to love him. Our heavenly father will not turn his back on you just because you do so to him. He will still be there in the end & you have the choice to be with him or not. Choice is the one gift we have been given. I am sorry for your loss & your sorrow.

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                                                                                                                                                                      plcox71821 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                      I am very sorry you lost your daughter, but thousands of people lose a child everyday. Death is inevitable, it started with Adam and Eve..they disobeyed God and He punished them by taking away their ability to live forever (among other things). We learn that people get sick because of sin. Romans 5:12 says  That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned
                                                                                                                                                                      Since we all get sick sometimes, does this mean that we are all sinners?— Yes, the Bible says that all of us are born with sin. Do you know what it means to be born with sin?— It means that we are born imperfect. We sometimes do things wrong, even though we don’t want to. Do you know how we all came to have sin?—

                                                                                                                                                                      We got this way because the first man, Adam, did not obey God. He sinned when he broke God’s law. And we all got sin from Adam. Do you know how we got our sin from him? Let me try to explain it in a way that you can understand.

                                                                                                                                                                      Maybe you have helped someone bake bread in a pan. What will happen to the bread if there is a dent in the pan? Do you know?— That same mark, or dent, will show on all the bread you make in that pan, won’t it?—

                                                                                                                                                                      Adam was like that pan, and we are like the bread. He became imperfect when he broke God’s law. It was as though he had received a dent, or a bad mark. So when he had children, what would they be like?— All his children would receive this same mark of imperfection.

                                                                                                                                                                      Most children are not born with some big imperfection that you can see. They do not have an arm or a leg missing. But the imperfection they have is serious enough that they become sick and, in time, die.

                                                                                                                                                                      Of course, some people get sick more often than others. Why is that? Is it because they are born with more sin?— No, everybody is born with the same amount of sin. We are all born imperfect. So, sooner or later, everybody will have some kind of sickness. Even people who try to obey all of God’s laws and who do nothing really bad can get sick.

                                                                                                                                                                      Then, why do some people get sick more often than others?— There are many reasons. It may be that they do not have enough food to eat. Or they may not eat the right kind of food. They may eat too much cake and candy. Another reason may be that they stay up too late at night and do not get enough sleep. Or they may not dress warmly enough before they go out into the cold. Some people’s bodies are too weak, and they can’t fight sickness, even if they try to take care of themselves.
                                                                                                                                                                      Romans 6:23 23 For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord
                                                                                                                                                                      I pray this helps you.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Coatl1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                        I think this guy doesn¡t know what mutations, viruses and bacterira are.

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                                                                                                                                                                          Coatl1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                          HI smiley,

                                                                                                                                                                          Being a father myself It's hard for me to imagine what would I do without my daugther. I've read your comments and I really wish I could say something that would make you feel better about what happened. But the fact is that I can't, I've never lost the person I love most, I've never met you little dauther and sadly I never will.

                                                                                                                                                                          I won't even try to tell you what you need to do(as if I knew better); but I'll tell you what I think about why bad things happen.

                                                                                                                                                                          The short answer would be, there is no why. Things just happen, there is no ultimate motive behind all the good or bad things happening right know. There are concrete causes, but most of the time it's just random luck that determines wether good or bad things happens to us. There is of course a way for us to influence such randomness, like being good to the people arround you increases your chances of them being good to you. But the ultimate randomness or certain events just can't be denied.

                                                                                                                                                                          I know this doesn't really help you with your sorrow, but my point here is that bad things doesn't happen to good people only, they happen to everyone, despite of their faith, color, country, etc. It was not something aganist you or your daughter personally, this kind of tragedies happen to guilty and innocent alike. I know that doesn't help at all, they say in my town "Mal de muchos, consuelo de pendejos" ( something like "suffering of many, comfort of fools" ); but at least I hope this will help to ease the apparent anger you seem have to your ex god.

                                                                                                                                                                          You don't seem to be an atheist like I am. If you are not, if you believe there is some supernatural force out there, seek for it. You may find the answers you seek.

                                                                                                                                                                          I really hope you can find whatever you need to have peace in your life.

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                                                                                                                                                                            one_truth1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                            Smiley, I have found the answer to the qustion, "Why do bad things happen" in Romans 8:29 "...to be conformed to the likeness of His Son...". And what is that likeness? To learn to be loving, forgiving, humble, obedient, like Jesus was.
                                                                                                                                                                            Please remember that Jesus never said follow my imperfect people, He said "Follow me". It is so important to study the Bible to know for yourself what it says, because it has been twisted and used by many false teachers over the years.

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                                                                                                                                                                          smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                          p.s I'm a woman!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                            Ree1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                            Smiley,
                                                                                                                                                                            I for one will keep you in my prayers. You have need or you wouldn't have been here posting for all this time.I too am sorry for the lost of your child. We don't know why GOD took your baby, but he alone can give you the peace you so badly need.

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                                                                                                                                                                          cwoeml1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                          Your comment about Jesus and God being created to explain the unexplainable may be politically correct, the problem is that 1 nano second after you die, you will be overwhelming remorsefull that you felt that way - for ever and ever and ever and ever and ever - with no hope of ever correcting the situation and no hope of anykind of death that would end the miserisy. You may consider doing some serious study work on the historical aspects of Jesus so you don't end up in hell out of ignorance.

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                                                                                                                                                                            smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                            sorry not going to happen.... You people are all the same with your bible-babble -bull $hit!!! I'm sick of hearing about it. Just like the ancient greeks created their "gods" to explain what they did not understand is the same concept, whether you belive it or not it's the closest thing to fact. The bible is a bunch of stories created by people who were not even there when jesus lived and died!!! So how accurate can a book like that be? Nothing in the bible can be proven by science and no offense, but that is what makes the world go round... not the bible!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                              GryphonLJJ1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                              smiley111 you are mistaken. Many books of the Bible were written by the people who actually traveled with Jesus; Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ring any bells. Some books of the Bible are collections of letters written by apostles. For example, the books Corinthians I & II and others were written by Paul of Tarsus. The books of Philemon was a letter from Paul of Tarsus to a man named Philemon. The slave, Onesimus, referred to in the letter, is later mentioned by Ignatius of Antioch as Onesimus Bishop of Ephesus in the early second century.
                                                                                                                                                                              There are many historical (non-biblical) supports for the Bible. Pontius Pilate did live and he was Governor of Judea at the correct time. There are historical records of a person name Jesus who was teaching in the area, was believed to have performed miracles and was put to death by the Romans.
                                                                                                                                                                              I am sorry for the loss of your daughter. Please, don't let it harden your heart any further.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                "Many books of the Bible were written by the people who actually traveled with Jesus; Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ring any bells. Some books of the Bible are collections of letters written by apostles. For example, the books Corinthians I & II and others were written by Paul of Tarsus"

                                                                                                                                                                                It's likely, but not certain. Most ANE texts and especially Hebrew texts (along with the following Greek texts from the NT) have a long standing tradition of being attributed to famous theologians/philosophers to honor their thoughts and memory, even if they weren't written by them.

                                                                                                                                                                                It's fairly likely, however, that some of the NT and Gospels were written by people who walked with Jesus or with people who talked to people who walked with Jesus, given that Christ died around 33CE and some of the earliest NT texts date from around 70CE. It's not unthinkable that someone who walked with Christ was alive 30-40 years later.

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                                                                                                                                                                              smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                              ever and ever and ever.... am I supossed to be scared??? Well, I'm sorry but I'm not!!!! Done't threaten me with the "your going to be damned to hell" BS!!!! Do you know what happens after you die??? Have you died and come back??? Did you have an outer body experience that can be scientifically documented??? Just because I am a woman of science, doesn't mean I'll be going to hell, the bible and it's stories CANNOT, I'll repeat, CANNOT be proven!!!!! get off it!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                goodie051 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                Smiley,

                                                                                                                                                                                Why are you commenting at all? Why did you read an article about Christianity and the Bible if you don't believe any of it anyway? What you believe is your choice, but you have no right to disrespect the choices of someone else.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                  because i originally thought the bible was being re-written (which i thought was interesting) until I read the article and decided to vent.... isn't that what these forums are for, for people to interact with others no matter what religion or views you bring to the table..... many of you have enlightened me, (a bit) and I have also learned alot too!!! So I don't walk away from this as uneducated person..... some people here have taught me a few things....

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                                                                                                                                                                              curlyone981 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                              Smiley111. It sounds like you need prayer and you will get it from all here. Do you honestly think that humans have no purpose? That we are like animals whose soul purpose it to eat, sleep and die? That is just sad. I urge you to study the bible and look at what is happening in this world today. Its all in there. The Bible tells you exactly how it will all end. I also encourage you to read Intelligent Design versus Evolution—letters to an atheist by Ray Comfort.You can learn more by going to wayofthemaster.com this is an interesting website with lots of answers/responses to questions/critism from people from all walks of life.
                                                                                                                                                                              There are no such things as a coincidences. Just GODincidences :0) You didnt just happen to make this comment today for the heck of it, but to learn about him. We were created in his image and with a purpose. GOD knew you when he created you and gave you everything you would need in order to fulfill that purpose. If you continue to deny him he will bring you to your knees, either in near future when you're going through something in your life that you just dont know how to handle and finally say GOD show me the way or after you pass and he returns. "At the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:10-11.

                                                                                                                                                                              I pray that GOD softens your heart and that he opens the eyes of your understanding.

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                                                                                                                                                                                smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                nooooo!!! I was raised Lutheran, baptised, received confirmation and communion... I have read the bible and used to believe until one day my daughter DID NOT wake up..... nothing was wrong with her medically and the M E stated that it was SIDS (which is really baby natural causes) Now with that mind, I'm sure you read the paper and watch the news, so answer this for me.... why should I believe in something or someone who took the only person on the face of the planet that I loved more than my life itself..... I would GIVE MY SOUL TO DEVIL FOR FIVE MINUTES WITH HER AGAIN...... do you know this pain??? And don't say your gonna "pray" for me.... I don't need it.... when it can be explained why mothers everyday kill their babies, WHY for the life of me, WHY WAS MINE TAKEN AWAY... she was not malnourished, she was not beaten or abused, she was my light and since her death in 05, I live in darkness, don't tell me the lord will give me light,...... HE TOOK THAT FROM ME!!!!!!!!! So until you or someone else can explain to me the reasons, I will believe what I will!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't think throwing the Bible in your direction is going to ease your pain, but I sincerely hope you find a way to work through this grief. Grief is a process, it takes time to comprehend and accept, and its phases can last for a long, long time. You are very full of anger right now, and if you don't find a hopeful, healthy way to release it will kill you, and not just you, but everyone who cares for you. Do you have anyone you can speak to about this? A therapist, friend, support group, anyone?

                                                                                                                                                                                  I hate to be harsh, but you're not the first person to endure what you're dealing with, and perhaps others in a similar situation can help you heal and find your own light. Sometimes the greatest love comes from sharing the deepest pain. I hope you find a way to mourn but not give up on your own life in the process.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                    i have tried everything from support groups to therapists (many in 3 years) I;m in a healthy relationship with a man who is very understanding.... My family still supports me even though I do not believe in what they believe in anymore. My friends are with me and keep me sane.... help me deal with it when the time comes to cry.... I know I'm not the first and I certainly won't be last.... I just feel sometimes that I must face this alone and deal with it... and it helps sometimes to talk to strangers who know nothing of you.... I'm just venting... no offense to anyone..... whether you believe in whatever.... I'm not here to offend... just to vent

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                                                                                                                                                                                      swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                      It's good to hear you've tried, that means you're not giving up on yourself. You're right that I can't imagine what you're dealing with, to continue living when the one you love can't. I've never dealt with the loss of a child.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I think any form of beliefs, if one must have them, are a journey. You may never find yourself on the path back to "Christianity" (I put that in quotes because there are a lot of people who claim to love Christ and apparently don't have a clue how he'd respond to someone in pain like you, but I digress! *_*) but as long as you find your way back to love and hope and compassion, you'll be okay. If I may preach for a second, that's what Jesus was there for anyway, for simple, honest compassion.

                                                                                                                                                                                      If there's anything to pray for, it's that you find some semblance of peace in a crazy world. I'm very thankful you've got so many who love you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        LilAngl447771 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Smile111,
                                                                                                                                                                                        You've tried everything except God, so did I. But trust me when I say that it is only He would can give you the comfort that you so desperately deserve and need. No one and NOTHING else will get you through this. I am speaking strickly from experience. Not your friends nor your family will be able to get you through this one. Actually, this pain was allowed in your life, by God, to bring you closer to Him. One thing people have to realize is that, "God's people are chosen". And if He choses you, you're going. You can go kicking or screaming, but you're going. His will is going to be done. Let this pain be used for the purpose He let it come into your life. Draw nigh to Him and He will draw nigh to you. Smie111, I promise you, He's the only One that can remove all this pain and put you back on track with your life. Do you mind if I ask do you have other children and if your new guy friend is a believer?

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Keep trying. But follow your own path. Don't buy into this "you've tried everything but God" crapola. If 'God' is right for you, then fine. If Buddhism and meditation are right for you, great. If communing with nature in some kind of neo-wiccan naked dance in the forest works to help you move through the pain, wonderful. Worry less about 'God' and more about yourself.

                                                                                                                                                                                          And please -- All you poorly educated 'Christians' stop going on about this truly horrendous sh!t saying that pain like this was allowed in this person's life to bring them closer to God. That is the most hurtful, awful thing anyone could say and one of the most offensive, negative, poisonous theologies of God invented by Man (or woman).

                                                                                                                                                                                          It doesn't matter if your new guy friend is a believer. It matters if he loves you, talks with you and supports you daily in life. It matters if he holds you at night when you cry and don't want to talk. It matters if he lets you scream at him knowing that it's a natural part of grieving. That's what matters.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Dream11561 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                      It seems you do acknowledge there is a God as you place the blame on "He" taking away your baby. It is to bad that you will not spend eternity with your baby as the baby is not of age for accountability, but you are.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                        How the hell do you know she won't spend eternity with her daughter? She's in mourning, numbnuts! Not many people are open to happy Christian cupcake rainbow heaven when they feel like their soul is being ripped to shreds. In time, that pain can become the deepest love that exists, but it takes *time*.

                                                                                                                                                                                        With an attitude like that, are you sure you know where *you'll* end up?

                                                                                                                                                                                        Besides, Jesus came for sinners, not the spiritually healthy, but what does it mean to be a sinner? It means being broken, in pain, feeling worthless. Sin is a symptom, not a cause. Treat the source, the pain, and the sin slowly goes away. That's true healing. Finding the light by being loved, not judged.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Kattsondra1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                        I am truly sorry you lost your child. I can only imagine what that is like. I am also sorry that these people who call themselves Christians ( and they may very well be) are not respecting you. Everyone has their own opinion. I think it is wrong to fight with someone over a difference of opinion. I have my own beliefs that are different from most. My "religion" has been called a cult before. I have lost friends because of what I believe. I am a Christian that keeps the Jewish Holy Days. Right now it is the season of the fall Holy Days. I do not Keep Christmas or Easter Or Halloween. I do not think they are right. I do all of these things and I do not believe it is enough. I believe when I am running around town (I live 30 minutes from the nearest Wal-Mart) and I see someone in need I should help them. My biggest problem is fear. I am a 19 mother and I always have my daughter with me. I dont want anything to happen to her so I am more cautious of people, and they all scare me. My husband believes similar to me but he does not keep the Holy Days with me. He may one day but he doesn't at the moment. He is not afraid of people. He is 25 and has been trained in martial arts. If anyone messes with him he believes he can handle himself. He came home the other day and told me he didn't get to finish shopping because there was a man who was trying to live on 97 cents. My husband doesn't believe 100 % like I do, but he is a good person. I think that is all that matters. Please do not take offense to my next statement, it is meant as encouragement. I hope one day, when all is over you and your daughter may hug once more. I believe in the end, everyone will be shown the truth by whatever being is out there in control. (I believe it is God.) I believe we will all get a second chance to believe the truth. I hope we all find that truth.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          lespev1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                          I am truly sorry for you loss. God is not the one who "allowed" your daughter to die though. Satan wants you to believe this and it seems you do. Please find a church who believes in a loving God who doesn't cause pain, tragedies, diseases...unfortunately some churches teach the doom, gloom of Christianity which only turns people away from God not toward God. This is not how God operates today. He wants us happy, healthy and prosperous...but Satan is always there to try and twist things around and make us hate God. There is a great minister Andrew Wommack who teaches about God's kind of love and he has many free messages on his website about Grief and other things....please go to www.awmi.net and click on extras....listen to some of the messages...I believe it will help you understand what God is truly about!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            LilAngl447771 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Smiley111,
                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't think you are an atheist but rather very angry with God for taking your daughter. You first stated that "you loved your daughter more than you loved your own life". If you were brought up in church as you say, then you would know that we aren't to love ANYONE more than we love God. He's a jealous God. We were made for Him and not for ourselves. God had His reason for taking your daughter just as He has for taking other people love ones. If you ever believed and trusted in Him at all, this was the time to really trust Him. God didn't hate you or your daughter, He loves us. I came close to feeling this way when He took my mother. I went through all kinds of changes; even complated suicide. But in the end, I had to build on the faith and trust I had been taught all my life. There is always a reason, whether we understand it or not at the time. But the only way to understand these things are to get as close to Him as we possibly can. His word teaches us, that His thoughts and ways are not our thoughts and ways and that His thoughts and ways are so much higer than ours. He allowed your daughter to return to His bossom for a reason and if you don't draw near to Him to have that answered, then I sure He will send another message, often something worse. I now know why He took my mother,(as all of my siblings do now)and it was worth the sacrafice. I know I will see her again and live with her in God's kingdom. And I will pray for you...because someone had to be praying for me. God bless you, Smile111

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                                                                                                                                                                                              swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                              LilAngl44777 - I understand that you mean to offer hope in your post, and you do, but I think you're missing a very valuable insight to Smiley111's comment.

                                                                                                                                                                                              "I loved my daughter more than I loved my own life."

                                                                                                                                                                                              Who does this remind you of? Who gave his own life to spare his brothers and sisters pain and anguish? Who wanted to trade places with those destined to die so they could have another chance? I'm thinking that sounds a lot like Jesus.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Her love for her daughter and her pain at her loss is synonymous with God's love for us, and Jesus' choice to die in our stead. He is Smiley111, grief-stricken at our deaths, but he could change things and gave us another shot. She has the heart of Jesus, IMHO, but we must do our part to find our own heart of Jesus and encourage her, just as you have done. I know you posted out of care, but I just wanted to share that with you. I really don't think God would be jealous in this case, I think he'd be overwhelmed with how much she understood him.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              curlyone981 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Out of curiosity what is your daughter's name? Its good to vent and let it out. It helps with the healing process. It is difficult to understand how GOD works or why things happen. No one here will be able to supply you with this answer. But blaming him will not help you either. The reason why I keep stating to study the bible is because no matter how many times you read it you will always learn something new. Pray before you even begin, GOD will give you more info and he may answer some of the questions you have. If you want death of loved one to be the topic you study so be it. You can get reference books, books on why loved ones die, then reference it back to the bible. This way you can learn more before you just make the decision that GOD may not exist. We never know it all, there is always something more to learn. This may also help you with your grieving process. You will never forget your daugter but you arent expected to. She is a beautiful blessing even if she may not physically be here with you at the moment. But you will be together again someday and see her beautiful smile. GOD loves you very much and will always be with you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                LilAngl447771 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Smiley111,
                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't think you are an atheist but rather very angry with God for taking your daughter. You first stated that "you loved your daughter more than you loved your own life". If you were brought up in church as you say, then you would know that we aren't to love ANYONE more than we love God. He's a jealous God. We were made for Him and not for ourselves. God had His reason for taking your daughter just as He has for taking other people love ones. If you ever believed and trusted in Him at all, this was the time to really trust Him. God didn't hate you or your daughter, He loves us. I came close to feeling this way when He took my mother. I went through all kinds of changes; even complated suicide. But in the end, I had to build on the faith and trust I had been taught all my life. There is always a reason, whether we understand it or not at the time. But the only way to understand these things are to get as close to Him as we possibly can. His word teaches us, that His thoughts and ways are not our thoughts and ways and that His thoughts and ways are so much higer than ours. He allowed your daughter to return to His bossom for a reason and if you don't draw near to Him to have that answered, then I sure He will send another message, often something worse. I now know why He took my mother,(as all of my siblings do now)and it was worth the sacrafice. I know I will see her again and live with her in God's kingdom. And I will pray for you...because someone had to be praying for me. God bless you, Smile111

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  courtna111111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  To smiley111:

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I also lost my daughter to SIDS on 9/10/2002. Prior to this very sad day in my life, I didn't know what people meant when they said they "heard God" or "God told them..." I had no real opinions about religion. I believed that Jesus is our Lord and Savior, but I didn't know what that meant. But on that day, I remember standing in the ER feeling at peace. And a grief counselor told me I was in shock, and I needed to cry. I didn't say anything to her, but I remember thinking that's not what my soul is feeling right now. I remained peaceful for the days following my daughter's death, planning her funeral, comforting family and friends. I now know that I felt God's presence on that fateful day. So when things get hard now, I always seek that feeling of peace. I sincerely hope that you find peace.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    CeriQ1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hey Smiley, I am really sorry about your daughter. I was never able to have children of my own and often questioned why when there was others out there that was abusing the ones they had. I really have no idea what you went through and are still going through, but God does. His Son gave his life for us, but from your history I know that you know this. I also see that you are willing to give your soul to Satan for 5 minutes more with her. Don't do that. That is not a very good deal when you can be with her for an eternity if you give it to Jesus. I just wanted to let you know that I don't think it is wrong to be angry and confused. I would just plead with you to lean on God and not push him away. He does love you, no matter what. God is going to show you his love today in some way. I do not know how or what it will be, but when he does you will know it was from Him.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Grantr1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Smiley, It looks like you believe in something - spirit, force of nature, etc. - as you are blaming him/her/it for the loss of your daughter. If you want to get some relief from your anguish, please consider finding a copy of "When Bad Things Happen to Good People" by Rabbi Harold Kushner. It may help.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        foundlivingwater1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Smiley
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Your baby is in heaven with her Heavenly Father. Too bad her earthly father won't get to spend eternity with her. This shows how much love you really have for your baby!
                                                                                                                                                                                                        You said you would give your soul to the devil for five minutes to be with your daughter--You don't expect to see her in Hell do you?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      pkg521 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      God Help your soul! Christians please pray for this person.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        sayzero01 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Smiley,

                                                                                                                                                                                                        You have the right to believe or not believe. However, just being a good person doesn't mean that, come judgement day (and I happen to believe that there WILL be) it doesn't excuse you for having no faith.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Don't be so quick to judge those who choose to have faith. In the end, it will be you who can't take back the hateful words and recommendations to "Burn the Bible".... And yes, God loves everyone, but if you don't live with Him in your heart, you condemn yourself.... I don't expect you to understand this, since you obviously don't read the Bible. It's probably because you don't understand it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          I do understand the bible, at the same time, explain why some christians use it as a hate tool to abolish homosexuality? or use it to appose whatever they want..... Like i said before, I was raised with religion, and fauthfully went every sunday, and prayed everyday..... it didn't help me in my time of need, so why pray now?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          sayzero01 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          And you don't know if He DIDN'T live..... In this day and age and the way this country and world is headed, everyone SHOULD have faith. Faith that God will see us through this and we can defeat those evil people, who seem to be multiplying....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            mechkelly31 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Why are you even on this site? Keep your opinions to yourself...Do not judge people or you will be judged!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              wiking1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              hoax of the 20th century: holocaust

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                BB123451 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                I do belive in GOD. But to answer you I would rather belive and have him not there then to NOT belive and have him be there.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Trust in the LORD with all your
                                                                                                                                                                                                                heart; do not dependon your own
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                GOD BLESS YOU ALL and the USA

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                what a joke you all are!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Imperator1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If it's such a joke, why get upset?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    who said I was upset? I'm not upset... as a matter of fact you all make me laugh!!!! with all this "oh Praise Jesus" BS!!!! You didn't even know Jesus.... hahahahahahaha BAAAAAAAAAHHHHH SHEEP!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      sayzero01 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm so sorry for you and your anger towards those of us who are trying to possibly help you with understanding.... I understand your anger at losing a child. Even the most devout Chrstians become anger at God for letting this happen. Your daughter is in a better place, even though you don't believe that. Maybe God needed to protect her from your anger and your belittlling of those of us who choose to believe.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        my anger???? My anger stemmed from the loss of my baby..... obviously you did not read my comments prior to your posting.... I, like I said before, was raised religious.... I went to chruch ever sunday and prayed every night,..... but in MY time of need no one was there.... I'm not posting things like this to offend anyone, but is it notmy right to have an opinion? I don't think you people are crazy, a little nieve but your entitled to your opinion,.... who knows maybe down the long road of life, I will accept God and Jesus back into my life, but for right now.... we are not on speaking terms, if you can understand that!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          p.s if my daughter was still here, she would be just a religious as my family has been for many years, my faith would not have been questioned.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            p.s if my daughter was still here, she would be just a religious as my family has been for many years, my faith would not have been questioned.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ciera-Marie1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              sayzero0 "Maybe God needed to protect her from your anger and your belittlling of those of us who choose to believe." HOW DARE you say this to a grieving mother or anyone. God didn't do this. She's entitled to her opinion. Who are you to judge. Her heart is broken. Did you ever stop to think that the death of a child no matter the age would shake anyone's faith? Make anyone question God and his/her existence? Everything they ever believed in?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              fedbyravens1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Smiley I believe that you God is more pleased with you than the rest of the Christians that are commenting on your statements. You are being real and that is what God truly wants. If you can be real then He can truly have something to work with if you were to ever change your heart toward Him. I am sorry for your loss and wish I could explain more. We live in a world where mankind makes bad choices and it effects us all. Again I am sorry for your loss.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                jesusisgr81 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hello smiley I am dorry that you feel the way you do about the bible and jesus.I can also tell that you are scared and are hurting from things that have happened in your life and you dont understand why they happened so now you are angry and want to blame someone .. I also know that you do believe in GOD because you blame him for taking your daughter...you are angry at him and i know that is devastating and words cant describe your pain but if you didnt believe in him you couldnt blame him... God allows things to happen in our lives to get our attention about things I dont know why its just the way it is were not suppose to understand all things...I just want to say to you that GOD loves you more than anyone in your life loves you... He gave up his life so that we could live just think about that.... I know that you have your beliefs for now but just think about it....keep an open mind and GOD will direct you and he will heal your broken heart.... jsut remember he loves you and so do I.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ok again, I was raised very religious I went to private schools and attended church more than one should.... I prayed everyday and every night,,, for the simplest things.... like peace on earth and the health and well being of others.... i was never selfish or wicked in my ways.... I did believe but my faith was questioned and I haven't been able to look at the same way

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  curlyone981 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am sorry to hear that you lost someone that you loved dearly (cancer?) I havent lost a child so I cant say I know exactly how you feel but my mother did loose my sister a few months after she was born and I have seen her sorrow and pain. It sounds like you are mad at GOD because you lost someone you loved. You ask where was GOD when she died, he was right there with you. He was waiting for you to go to him. He comforts us and gives us peace. He never leaves us. I cant say exactly why this happened to you only GOD can tell you why. But if you learn more about him, read the bible, and develop a relationship with him he will guide you through this. This world isnt perfect because if it was no one would ever go to him. Unfortunately people usually live their life the way they want until things go wrong then they go to him as a last resort. It should be the other way around. The bible is more than just a book that tells us what happened way before our time. It is a book of instruction a guide to live by. I was miserable until I applied the bible to my life from the things we eat, to my marriage, raising my children, finances, sex, it's all in there. I am happier now for it. My life isnt perfect, as a matter of fact right now I am pregnant with my third child and just lost my job. Instead of panicking getting depressed etc I am praying and asking him for guidance and I am believing in him to help me find something else. When he closes one door he opens a bigger better door. Being Christian doesnt guarantee that your life will be perfect but that you will be able to go through it with the tools you need to survive and not succomb to grief or harshness of this world.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                dezimm1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I am sorry for your loss.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I know there is little one stranger can say to another in empathy, but I wish you joy. May your future hold the loving memories of your little one and the lightening of your sorrow.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                lakerman1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                FAYEH Thank you for explaining what the writing of the bible really means. No sooner thanI began reading your comment(explanation)I saw where you were going. My interpretation was an abomination. I get the DUUUHHHHHHHHHH....award.Now, it sounds like a very nice idea.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  evansvillejack1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Let me start by saying there was no original KJV. The original texts were in HEBREW, GREEK, ARAMAIC. All other versions came centuries later. The bible was in fact written by JEWS (by birth)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  who became CHRISTIAN (by re-birth). There is room for personal interpretation as GOD said of HIMSELF "I AM" That leaves room for GOD to be whatever you need him to be at any point in your life. Read and understand the "names of GOD'. Please stop misquoting "judge not lest you be judged". I have done an exhaustive study on that and I have few who understand what it is really saying and I won't go into it because I doubt any here would grasp it either. I would state from what I have read here, you should read more with the UNDERSTANDING for yourself, NOT what someone else told you to accept.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  hbear6121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  "All scripture is given by the inspiration of God" (2Tim 3:16) "Prophecy came not in old time by the will of man:but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost" (2Peter 1:21) "Thy word is truth" (John 17:17)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Make no mistake about it the Holy men of God 44 in all wrote the Bible. They came from varied backgrounds and stations. in life;prophets,priests,apostles,judges,shepherds,ki... collectors,physicians,tentmakers and fisherman. So let not man go out and try to make something thats not needed or worth the effort. Gods word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path Psalm 119:105

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    sureshotmama1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I know smiley111 is in for a rude awakening one day. Do you not realize that without God you would not exist? Where do you think you came from? "Any man who denies me before others will be denied by me before my father". This is not a scare tactic, IT IS THE TRUTH. One day you will stand before the all mighty God and accout for this statement. I can only pray for your soul. Man should not re-write this God given word to make himself feel better about the way they are living. We ALL should live by the ten commandments, that's why God gave them to us. Please re think your heart.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      oh right, i forgot.... the all mighty powerful made me happen??? That's right because the big bang theory is wrong, and I didn't evovle with world??? But you know the answers!!! Let me guess, a man walks out of his house, walks towards a hill in the clearing and BAM!!!!!! god has written the big 10 on a bunch of rocks.... do you hear how ridiculous that sounds..... I won't be damned... how do you know what happens after death, because your read so in a book of stories, I can read Brothers Grimm all day long, doesn't mean that Hansel and Gretel were really eaten by a witch with a gingerbread house..... think about it..... I don't believe, that doesn't make wrong.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      cookiecrumbstwo1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Before embarking on a re-write of the Holy Scriptures perhaps one should read what they actually say. Here are some key scriptures from the "Old" and "New" books you may want to consider to both Jews and Christians. From the Hebrew Scriptures Malachi 3:6 says "For I am Jehovah, I have not changed". If God has not changed, why would we feel it necessary to make any sort of change in his word. He expects the same of us that he has expected from his followers since the beginning of time. One of the last set of scriptures in the Bible at Revelation 22:16-20 states "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to you to tell the churches all these things. I am both David's root (who, by the way was a Jew) and his Descendant. I am the bright Morning Star. Let each one who hears them say the same, "Come, Let the thirsty one come - anyone who wants to; let him come and drink the Water of Life without charge. And I solemnly declare TO EVERYONE WHO READS THIS BOOK, IF ANYONE ADDS ANYTHING TO WHAT IS WRITTEN HERE, GOD SHALL ADD TO HIM THE PLAGUES DESCRIBED IN THIS BOOK. AND IF ANYONE SUBTRACTS ANY PART OF THESE PROPHECIES, GOD SHALL TAKE AWAY HIS SHARE IN THE TREE OF LIFE AND IN THE HOLY CITY AS DESCRIBED"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Personally, I would think very long and hard before volunteering to contribute my own version of anything to a book that was born along by Holy Spirit from our creator.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sureshotmama1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Paulm6783471 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The bible has been re written and edited thousands of times. Certain biblical stories don't show up in the bible until the 10th century. Heck, re writing the bible is a tradtion not blasphemy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          patpason1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          While reading through many of these comments, I felt that the entire point of the fact that the "oracles of God " or, "the very words of God" were entrusted to the Jews according to Romans 3:2, was missed. Salvation is from the Jews according to John 3:22. Myriads ( tens of thousands) believed Yeshua ( Jesus Hebrew name) is Messiah, and they were all Jews.( Acts 21:20). Perhaps the Christians need to re-examine the Scriptures in the Hebraic context in which is was spoken, and come to know Yeshua as who He is, King of the Jews. Early believers were all part of Judaism, not separate from it or opposed to it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            lakerman1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            SMILEY111 I'm sure others here will join me when I say I'll pray for you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              fixer631 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              lets all smoke a joint and think about it

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                wickinwoman081 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I've been reading these comments all morning, and this one made me laugh. I believe in God, but not in the bible. I have read it, and I understand it, but I just don't believe in it. You can still have faith in God and Jesus without having your nose glued to a book. Look inside for your inner faith and know that if HE wishes, you will be spoken too and guided by his hand.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  That's the truth, wickinwoman08, the Bible is a tool for spiritual development, it's not the be-all-end-all. Sometimes it's just as important to have a discerning
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  *mind* as it is a discerning heart.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Preach on, sister.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                fixer631 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                what about the 11 long haired friends of Jesus in a shartruse microbus carry on smiley111, god who?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  sayzero01 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Um.... WHAT?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    puffin1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Jesus was a pothead.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  tpicking441 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  smiley111 is pretty typical of an atheist - he/she is the only impolite person in this entire string.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  (Well, both parts of my statement are true...)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Kattsondra1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    all she did was voice her opinion and everyone started condemning her. I don't think she is right but I don't think she has it all wrong either. It is the so called Christians that are the impolite ones. And if you consider me impolite for taking her side the go ahead. I have no idea what I would do if I lost my daughter. I am sorry she is going through that. And how is she typical of an atheist? My Grandfather is an atheist and he is one of the most honest men I have ever meet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Kattsondra1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Let me try to fix that last statement because it is worded very wrong. You are implying that Atheist cannot be good people. I believe they can be. I know they are because My Grandfather is. Just because you don't agree with someone does not make them bad. I am not trying to imply that Smiley111 is a dishonest person and I am sorry it sounds that way. I am just confused about the implications that Atheists are not good people.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    hip2urgame1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    What I don't get is how people who don't know there bible or history always hate on the Jews. Jesus purpose was to come to this earth and die for our sins. He was the sacrificial lamb, if he didn't fulfill his purpose there would be no Christianity. Really in all actually Christians are just for lack of a better descriptive word "a different denomination of Judaism". Our religion was born from Judaism, Jesus was a Jew!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      What I don't get is how people who don't know there bible or history always hate on the Jews. Jesus purpose was to come to this earth and die for our sins. He was the sacrificial lamb, if he didn't fulfill his purpose there would be no Christianity. Really in all actually Christians are just for lack of a better descriptive word "a different denomination of Judaism". Our religion was born from Judaism, Jesus was a Jew!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        FARMGIRLXZ1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        WE ARE NEED TO REALIZE THAT MESSING WITH THE BIBLE IS WRONG. GOD IS WATCHING US AND IS GETTING MAD . WHY DO YOU THINK BAD THINGS ARE HAPPENING. WE DOING THINGS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH. WRTING A NEW BIBLE NO MATTER IF YOU ARE USING THINGS OUT OF THE OLD ONE IS STILL WRONG.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          plb813601 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow such division and nastyness.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          There are many divine scriptures abd none belong to man. God lives in our heart through love. Stop fighting over doctrine and quoting a paragraph of a book and thereby making it the meaning of the book

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Doctrine, clergy, religion has actually taken us away from God and has caused division and hate. We need only to look within our self and see the love od God and that is whee God is.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            cars69531 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            SMILEY I BELIEVE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE BURNED! IT PROBABLY WILL BE SOON AFTER THOSE IDIOTIC WORDS YOU WROTE! ILL PRAY FOR U BUDDY!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              godisdead1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              well said, just like a christian to want to to burn someone at the stake. You give other christians a bad name. i don't think jesus preached for the execution of those that had differing opinions.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              donincognito161 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! you people speak like the true herd of sheep to the almighty shepherd.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm going back to the sea

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                cars69531 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                SMILEY WHAT IS YOUR REAL NAME SO ALL OF US BELIEVERS CAN PRAY FOR YOU TO BE ENLIGHTENED AND SAVED!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Paris Renee

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    goodie051 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Smiley obviously isn't even a real person. "She" is probably some teenage kid with nothing better to do than get a rise out of everyone. A true person of science would have hopefully been more logical and rational, not going off the handle the way "she" did. All of you replying to "her" insane rants are just helping her get her jolly.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      first of all I am 23 year old woman living and working in NYC.... This is not a joke and I am not a child..... please don't assume things about you don't know me!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You obviously didn't read the reason for her replies, either. She's dealing with things you must've skimmed over. Get off your high horse and read what she's saying before you make baseless judgments.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        goodie051 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Smiley obviously isn't even a real person. "She" is probably some teenage kid with nothing better to do than get a rise out of everyone. A true person of science would have hopefully been more logical and rational, not going off the handle the way "she" did. All of you replying to "her" insane rants are just helping her get her jolly.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          kaoclan771 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          We are all given a choice to put our Faith in Ourselves or in God. It is our Choice. God loved me first, so I choose Him.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mar 4:3 “Listen! A farmer went out to sow his seed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mar 4:4 As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mar 4:5 Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mar 4:6 But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mar 4:7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants, so that they did not bear grain.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mar 4:8 Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up, grew and produced a crop, multiplying thirty, sixty, or even a hundred times.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mar 4:9 Then Jesus said, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          mbs1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow, alot of anger. Why does the bible stir you nonbelievers up so much?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        koechigc1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Catholicism is the fullfillment of Judaism

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Chris from Goodrich, MI

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Kattsondra1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          How is that?? Can you please explain that statement a little more?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Easy, the Pope said so. ;) (I'm Catholic, I can make completely unfunny jokes like that!!!! :P)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          koechigc1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Read about the Early Church Fathers & most of your questions will be answered.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks be to God & Peace be with you all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            trlodi1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            smiley111. You seem to be the only one with a confused athiest mind. Why is everyone else wrong and you just happen to be right? Isn't it better to believe and and be wrong than not to believe and be wrong? Even as a history book, the Bible has never been proven wrong, unlike most other history books. There is scientific fact that things written in the Bible were factual. The bible being re-written will just give atheist another reason to say it was "just a book that men wrote". No-one is putting you down for your beliefs, so just back off. Just like in Noah's day, when the floods came the door was shut. Only 8 people were saved, then the door was closed, not to re-open for anyone who begged for mercy. Same thing when Christ comes back, you guys will see the truth and want mercy but it will be to late for you. May God find you soon. Peace

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              just like the bible says hate gays.... but wasn't Moses raped by his sons when he was drunk?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                You're thinking of Lot who was raped by his daughters in Genesis, way before Moses was a twinkle in his father's eye.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Oh, and please remember, when two angels showed up at Lot's house in Sodom, the men of the village wanted to have sex with them, but because that was wrong, Lot freely offered them his TWO VIRGIN DAUGHTERS instead. Father of the Year right there. I'm not down for father-rape (eww) but I would be ****** if he offered my untouched poon to some random stranger.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Randomly, some scholars associate the Sodom men/Angels story not to be strictly about homosexuality, but intercourse between angels and humans. Earlier in Genesis (and in my favorite Book of Enoch) it says the Sons of God did it with the Daughters of Men and had monstrous offspring that ravaged the world. So smex with angels became a BIG no-no. Anyway...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              donincognito161 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              factual? really? BAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ireland8371 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Well, if everyone would read the story correctly and go to the attached link you would see that the Bible isn't being rewritten, it is just being HANDwritten, hence the name of the article. As in, people will be able to write a couple verses of the standard, NIV Bible and contribute to this book. If they were to REwrite the book, I don't think they'd ask Billy Graham to take part.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  trlodi1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  donincognito16
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  yes I said factual. Look it up and you will see. People have been trying to prove the history of the Bible wrong for years and years. But they can't. Can you? try it

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    but they haven't been proven it's correct either....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    4544JLH1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I THINK THE OLD BIBLE WAS GOOD BACK THEN AND ITS STILL GOOD TODAY. JUST LIKE JESUS IS THE SAME TODAY AS HE WAS BACK THEN. WHEN SOMETHING IS GOOD DON'T TRY AND CHANGE IT CAUSE IT WON'T BE THE SAME.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      youthpastornoel1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You are really missing the point. The Bible is not being "re-wirtten" on the tour. It's being hand-written by people. It's just copying the NIV in hand-written form.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        plcox71821 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yes, the Old Bible IS better.....because it has God's name "Jehovah" in it over 7000 times! Over the years...as they made newer Bibles, they started taking it out down to the KJV which has it about 7-8 times. Now the NEW KJV doesn't have it al all. How can we get to know Him as a friend and personal savior if we don't know His name?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        swtcajldy11 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What people do not understand is ( Jesus ) was a Jew. Yes the bible was written by man, but they were inspired by God.It say's in the bible not to add or take away from God's word. Before I read my bible I ask for Jesus to open my ears, eyes, and heart so that I may hear what he is telling me.A Christian is a person that has excepted Jesus as their savior. Romans 10 will tell you how to do this. People better open the bible and read because the time is here for Jesus to return. Jesus is coming soon and I do not need a new verson of the bible to tell me that. God Bless You all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          youthpastornoel1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow. Many of you are really missing the point. The Bible is not being "re-wirtten" on the tour. It's being hand-written by people. It's just copying the NIV in hand-written form. People need to actually READ instead of ASSuming.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ladymd05051 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I hope no one is found adding or taking away from the precious Word of God. If you read in Revelations of the King James Version, there is a hefty penalty to pay for adding or taking away. The Bible is not to be played with like some random book, and I would hope that this book would not take the place of THE BOOK.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              trlodi1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Why don't you atheist go to another post? Why are you cluttering up this one. You will never get anyone to listen to you, because stong christians know the truth, to bad you don't.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Realness42861 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                This so called "New Bible" will be a worse Mega-Mess than the economic crisis this nation is in right now! Why? Because as it is written in Romans 1:21-22vs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                21. "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                22. Professing (themselves) to be wise, they becames fools,...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                This world wants a bible that will come down to their standards, instead of them coming up to the standards that God himself have established.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Also, Revelation 22:18-20vs.Warns of dire consequences for anyone who add (+) or take away (-) from the writtings of the prophecy of this book. Some may assume it only refers to the book of Revelation, however those who are committed to the principles and doctrine of Jesus Christ understands that the book of Revelation is a culmination of all of the scriptures of the bible.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                This foolishness of trying to discredit the bible because of its Jewish orgins smells of the stench of anti-semitism. We as a nation had better get it together, as each of us will be judged by the same Christ that you seek to marginalize or deny.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Apostle, G. (Samuel) Richardson

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Raybaby1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ALL the bible writers (Old amd New Testament) were of Jewish descent and ALL were inspired of GOD.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Do you have any proof of this?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    secwisdmean1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Great marekting idea by Zondercan. Nothing creates more reaction than religion. (Not to mention sex and politics.)It'll be interesting to see what 30,000 people think should be in a new bible. But obviously the final ideas will be edited by the company's editors, who may or may not have the Lord's interest in mind.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I think it's great entertainment for God to see and chuckle at and for humankind to take a serious look at itself and decide if we have a serious problem regarding appreciating God's covenant with us.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The sad thing is 30,000 people, who may or may not have read the Bible entirely or understand a full verse or chapter, will write new verses and the publisher will make money off it mainly because out of 300 million American's, at least 1 million wuill buy it out of curiosity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    In this case I will take the wait and see approach. I can't help but say, God must be thinking...Fool me once shame on me. Fool me twice shame on you. But try to fool me and my people 30,000 times, the shame is on humankind.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      tahd771 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      tahd77 2019 get ready

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        JessicaMA1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That last comment was more than a little silly. Jesus was a Jew, the Apostles were Jews...Christians have no problem with that fact. Anyone who has actually read the bible would see that Jews were not portrayed as 'the good guys'. They were sinful and just as in need of a redeemer as the rest of the world.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          hvnlyellie781 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm gonna get a lot of crap for this, but o-well, everyone has an opinion right?! So go ahead get mad.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Why in the world do people still belive in this book that was written by a group of men thousands of years ago? I just don't get it at all. There are so many things that just do not add up in the bible, yet people belive it. I mean common, you want me to belive that Noah lived to be 900 and he collected 2 of every animal on the planet so the could reproduce on a boat?! Do you people know how many different species of animals there are? there are millions of insects! I just don't get it. And the fact that a woman claims she got pregnant by god and her son was gonna help and lead the people. If I made that claim today and truely belived it they would lock me up in a mental hospital. I mean think about it people, you belive in something because thats what you were taught. It's a story passed down from generation to generation, just like santa. yet people don't belive in santa because we know there is no man in a red suit with flying raindeer that comes into our house to give us presents. People have to have something to belive in to make there lives worth while and that is crazy to me. I mean really think about it. There is a movie comming out soon by Bill Mhar called Religoulus (spelling may be wrong) I think averyone should check it out. I'm not trying to sway people either way, it will make you think or your belifes stronger. And remember this before you start bashing me for this post and bashing other people for being gay, unwed mothers, having affairs. You preccious bible says that god says it's wrong to judge people, so stop judging

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            walterhillel1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Smiley you are partially incorrect. Parts of the New Testament were written by Jews. The Gospels of Mark and Matthew were written by men who were Jews and were trying to get Jews to recognize that Jesus was the Messiah who was prophesied in what we now call the Old Testament. Saul of Taursus (who became the apostle Paul and wrote Acts) was a Jew who converted, but still observed Jewish beliefs while trying to convince the Jews that Jesus was the Messiah. The Gospels of Luke and John were written by gentiles who were Christians and sought to convert samaritans and gentiles to Christianity because at this point the church had dismal results at trying to convert their fellow Jews. The Jews refused to believe and at times persecuted the Christians. They tried to get the Apostle Paul for heresy on many occasions during his missionary travels.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Cool post. It would be interesting to compare Luke/John to Mark/Matthew knowing that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              vgkflc1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Be afraid very afraid. A new Bible???

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                What I find interesting is that God (the Abrahamic one) didn't seem to need people to speak for "him" back in the day. He was more than happy to give signs and smote people on his own. Somewhere along the way, God got very quiet. Why? Jesus said there would be no sign of who he was, yet, according to the novellas, what spurred the Apostles to spread the word after Jesus's death? They saw Jesus resurrected. Sounds like a sign to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                In the end, the Bible is just the ideas of people trying to explain things that are beyond our knowledge. In Western Civilization, there is a clear progression of "God" moving from a regional god, of the Hebrews, one god among many, to the supreme god, the one and only.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It was lucky that Christianity became the chosen religion of conquerors, even though conquering lands and people is diametrically opposed to Jesus's teaching in the novellas, because it created in the Western tradition the ability to be greedy, kill people for their possessions, then get absolution by telling God you were "sorry." Oh, but we're keeping the goods. LOL

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ''the Bible is just the ideas of people trying to explain things that are beyond our knowledge.''

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  that's a nice sentence. The Bible is a lot more than that, a history book[biased like all history books, tho it shows the Jewish people in a pretty harsh light considering who wrote it] a book of philosophy and poetry etc etc,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But yeah, the bible is largely people grasping in the dark for a light switch, never realizing there is no switch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  some things are just beyond us

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  makes for a wonderful read tho, if you skip around a little

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  shannabmc1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  TO EVERYONE WHO THINKS THAT THEY ARE WRITING A NEW VERSION OF THE BIBLE, please re-read the article!!! They are only COPYING the verses of the NIV version and making a hand-written copy of the NIV version of the Bible. Several people have commented that this is the case, but a lot of people still aren't getting it!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    davidejack1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I challenge anyone who is really interested in "finding God" to simply admit your doubts and questions...which are perfectly normal and acceptable...to ask God to reveal himself to you at the point that you are...and then start reading the Book of John...take it a step at a time...the Bible is a lamp unto your feet and a light unto your path...HE WILL REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU IN A PERSONAL WAY...YOU WILL KNOW...YOU WILL SENSE IT DEEP WITHIN YOUR SOUL...THAT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT WORKING IN YOU IN A PERSONAL WAY. Yes, there are some basics...but more important is that God is a personal loving God that will meet you at your need. The Bible is HIS WORD...but you should always preceed any reading of it with prayer asking Him to reveal Himself to you through what you read. ENJOY THE WORD OF GOD...THE WORD IS SHARPER THAN A TWO EDGED SWORD...If you seek Him with all of your heart, YOU WILL FIND HIM...and you know what?...if you do that, I don't care what version you read...Things will become clear. BE BLESSED AND ACCEPT, BY FAITH, WHAT IS REVEALED TO YOU WHEN YOU DRAW NEAR TO HIM. God's promises are always true...IF YOU DRAW NEAR TO HIM, HE WILL DRAW NEAR TO YOU...BUT, NOTICE THAT YOU MUST MAKE THE FIRST MOVE...EVERYONE, HAVE A GREAT DAY!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      plcox71821 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Why would anyone want to make a Bible like that anyway?? It will be a book with different verses from different people, it will not tell stories or prophesy and will be very confusing to anyone thinking of it as a Bible It will be a book of jumbled up verses, no more than a receipe book!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        shannabmc1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        TO EVERYONE WHO THINKS THAT THEY ARE WRITING A NEW VERSION OF THE BIBLE, please re-read the article!!! They are only COPYING the verses of the NIV version and making a hand-written copy of the NIV version of the Bible. Several people have commented that this is the case, but a lot of people still aren't getting it!! The article is incorrect that they are writing a new "version," they are actually publishing a new "edition."

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          GoJeHg1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          To try to sum it all up.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          People God never tried to prove to anyone that he existed, the Bible just said "In the beginning God." He showed the enemies of his chosen people his power while they were in bondage in Egypt, even they had to admit to His sovereignty and power. It does not matter what people write because we are to study to show ourselves approved unto God not man. All good and perfect gifts comes down from the father above, so when I want to find out what God is saying about a thing I go to Him and not man. it makes sense to go to God about what He is saying to me. Everyone else just confirms what He has already told you. His ways are past finding out, in other words some things we won't understand till we get to heaven. This topic is so vast, I do not have time or space to enlighten everyone. We all have to find the truth for ourself, but if God is calling and you reject Him at this time in this country, look out for His wrath, for the God of the Bible is a consuming fire, a God of wrath, peace, love, joy, and understanding.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Till next time GoJeHg

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          dianev19331 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          God did not invent religion, man did. The Bible has some really good rules but it is mainly a History book. Now, the Quran has the same old testament that our Bible does and it has the same new testament as well except that it has many more gospels than the Bible because they didn't throw any out. Our early Catholic popes threw out all writings that they did not deem proper to include in the Bible. Israel is on the continent of Africa and 2,000 years ago there was not a white face on that continent. Just look at the Egyptian hieroglyphics, all brown and black. Moses was raised in the house of the pharoah and no one knew he was Jewish because he was brown too. There were no white faces there. Jesus, Mary and Joseph were brown and so was everyone else. So how do all the bigots explain that fact...? and it is historical fact.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          plcox71821 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Why would anyone want to make a Bible like that anyway? It will be a book with different verses from different people, it will not tell stories or prophesy and will be very confusing to anyone thinking of it as a Bible It will be a book of jumbled up verses, no more than a receipe book!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Tim 3:16 says All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness. The writers of the Bible WERE Jews but what they wrote came from God. Even Daniel said while he was writing and prophesying that he had NO IDEA what he was writing most of the time,because it was of things coming in the future....things he had never heard of.... it really boggled his mind...but it was coming from Jehovah so he did as He asked of him and wrote what He put in his mind.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Matt 3:15...Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Matt 24:4-36....Tells of the signs of the end of this system of things. If you read it you will know these things are happening NOW and FAST. More so every year and now more so every DAY. People, we all need to stay on the watch, not be fooling around with the Bible!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            To Smilie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I am terribly sorry you lost your little girl. Many other mothers have had to cope with the same situation. Many have become bitter, same as you. However the bible does say that it rains on the just as well as the unjust. We all go through life facing harpships, disappointments and grief. Be thankful that you have the opportunity to be a mother. Many women do not get this chance. Don't live the rest of your life with bitterness in your heart. You, in the end, will be most miserable

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Allthough I appreciate your condolences... i am not bitter.... EMPTY would be a better word to describe what I feel, PAIN is another good word..... there is no bitterness here....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Bible was written in the age of Pisces. We are now in the times of Revelations ending the world as we know it. We seriously are in need of the Bible for the Age of Aquarius. No need to repeat anything that's been said before, history can no longer be repeated due to the multitude of standards for moving forward as a global community and a structure for manifesting greatness in individual lives. The necessities may come into play as a true communist society where everyone has great self value without leading to a totalitarian state.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                According to Levi. H. Dowling in 1908, there's an Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ:
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                mechkelly31 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think Smiley111 is a fool. If you don't believe, don't make a comment. If you don't believe there is a Jesus and God, who do you believe in? Satan? Do you believe he is real???

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  cosmicfluke1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bibles are great for emergency toilet papaer and starting fires during christmas!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    bottomfeeder1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    hey smiley111-you got balls! and im with ya. god save us all from religion!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      dianneharris31 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      As christains we have the right to voice our opinon about the Bible being rewritten or copied .As an athiest you do not have the right to voice your opinion because you don't even believe in God or the bible . You just need to butt out . Your only looking for an opportunity to run the christain people down . God have mercy on your soul.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        lvrofwolves1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Gee dianneharris3, I thought as an American EVERYONE had the right to voice their opinion. If your faith in your God or religion is strong, why worry about anyone 'trying' to run Christians down?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        personally I don't believe anyone actually choses to believe or not believe, you might choose to follow a path or not, and act accordingly, and claim you are this or that, but each person knows if they truly believe or not. If a person is basically good, what difference does it make? if there is a God who judges, that's what it will be, nothing you say or do or judge to be fit or not will matter.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        thank you.... I don't say what i say to upset people, just to let them know that this is not the only "faith you can have" Some christians make you believe that you are worthless with out the word of god.... I had the word of god and it did nothing but cause me grief

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          rivermint1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hey Smiley,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          A good friend of mine lost her whole family in a car accident and had a similiar response of questioning her beliefs. I am sorry for your loss and I think it takes a while to get a grip on the existentiality of life after something like that.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Don't let people make you feel bad about a natural process of grieving.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          As for your beliefs, they are your own. I admire your desire to spread rational discourse but attacking folks beliefs doesn't usually help them or yourself.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          As for the article:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          As a non christian I think that it is kind of neat that they are honouring a holy book by copying ( not editing or changeing) it in the handwriting of real men women and maby children.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I would think that it would be inspiring for a chrisitan to be able to pick up a bible and read thier favorite scriptures in the handwriting of some real christian person who actually took the time to sit down and copy that pasage from the original bible.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Don't worry so much the article says that they are copying the bible not chaging it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        BrownLane1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Fellow believers--"For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Hebrews4:12/"And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined in a furnace of clay, purified seven times."Psalm12:6/"By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth."Psalm33:6/"For he spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast". Psalm33:9/God said it that settles it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          dianneharris31 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You can say anything you want but God WILL have the last word !!!!! Jesus says,, I Will Come Quickly !!!! God Bless you all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            bottomfeeder1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            would that be the great white male god that hitler had on his side as advertised on his troops belt buckles?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            i cant figure out why anyone would want to support an organization that has been responsible for more suffering than the christian church...can any of you bible punchers show me where jesus commanded that people should be burned at the stake for their beliefs? well can you?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              plcox71821 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Jehovah nor Jesus commanded that anyone be burned. The majority of Revelation is symbolic, as such is the lake of fire. It represents total destruction.....such as if you threw a piece of paper into a lake of fire it would be totally destroyed...meaning would not exist anymore. Jehovah is a LOVING GOD...would a LOVING human father put his child's hand into a fire?? No, and neither would Jehovah, our Father in the heavens, put anyone into a torturous burning hell. Look at Acts 2:29-31. This is David prophesying about Jesus' death and praying that "God not forsake him (Christ) in HADES ."  “Men, brothers, it is allowable to speak with freeness of speech to YOU concerning the family head David, that he both deceased and was buried and his tomb is among us to this day.  Therefore, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath that he would seat one from the fruitage of his loins upon his throne,  he saw beforehand and SPOKE CONCERNING THE RESURRECTION OF THE CHRIST,THAT NEITHER WAS HE (Christ) FORSAKEN (left in Hades any longer than the three days) IN HADES NOR DID HIS FLESH SEE CORRUPTION."
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              We all know that David lived thousands of years before Christ, and was dead and buried when Christ was killed.......This was his prophesy .....so ask yourself this question.....Do you really believe Christ was ever in HADES (Hell) as people see hell as a burning tortuous place??? THE DEFINITION OF HADES IN GREEK (which was what the "New Testament " where Acts is located was written in) MEANS THE COMMON GRAVE OF MANKIND!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              spartan421921 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hubert is saying that While christians part of the bible is the new testament, the onlyparts you ever hear really being quoted are from the Old Testament which was basically the Jews book.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              and the jews are the goodguys, if they hadn't killed/tortured him how would he have died for our sins?...What spectactular way would he die for our sins instead Old Age? That hardly seems like = pennance for hundreds of thousands of years of sin. Maybe Jesus dying by the jews/romans in that fashion was part of God's Plan.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                bottomfeeder1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                jews are good guys for torturing and killing?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                joyfulwifeandmother1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  bottomfeeder1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  so wrote emperor constantine when his editors put the bible together.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Revelations was a garbled rip-off of the apocryphal "Book of Enoch" which wasn't even included in canon, except for the Ethiopian church. So because it's already an adaptation, we're screwed. Just sayin'.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    cjsmay1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Forget the bible. The bible is a book of fiction, superstition, and myth.There is no truth in it. Faith is believing in some thing you know is not true.In grade school you were taught that truth was backed by evidence, facts and witness's.None of which can be atributed to the bible story.The main purpose of this teaching is to seperate you from your money and it has worked admirably.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    If we keep supporting this teaching ,we will soon loose our freedom and we will become just like the islamic taliban terroroist group .Wake up people ,you can not be suckers all your life.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      curlyone981 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You are focusing more on religion itself. Religion isnt what we should be focus on this causes problems. We should only focus on our relationship with GOD. Unfortunately in school we are taught that things need to be backed by evidence. But you must be aware that we dont have all the facts about anything "scientifically proven" Science changes constantly because we learned more about something or discovered something new. One day there is one theory about somethng and then its disproved by more findings. There is no real evidence for the big bang theory or that we evolved from monkeys. If we evolved how come humans havent been evolving or changing slowly into different beings? For all we know when they discovered the remains of homoerectus it was bones human bones mixed with bones of human. GOD's word is never changing. GOD is the same now as he was when time first began. Study the bible and look at science you will see that in more cases than not, it does prove the events in the bible.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      bottomfeeder1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      maybe we should all be praying that in this version god will be portrayed as a kind and loving being who doesnt cause wars and is tolerant of other peoples paths in life-not some busybody that is intent on killing and maiming as many people as possible because they are praying to the wrong god the wrong way

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        plcox71821 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You think it is GOD that causes the wars?? MAN'S GOVERNMENT causes the wars! We weren't meant to govern ourselves. After the last apostles died man decided they could do better governing themselves instead of living under God's laws. . So just step back and look at this picture......at what kind of MESS MAN has gotten us into! Can MAN stop sickness, death, hunger, homeless, all wars, greed, crime, etc?? NO!! But Jehovah God can....and WILL ...VERY SOON!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          bottomfeeder1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          the gods had their own wars if you care to read the bible. mans wars are a continuation in gods name arent they? why is there a war in iraq? why is there a war in afghanastan?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm in agreement with most of the people here. My only problem is that I beleive in a higer Being a Creator, a Supreme Being Etc, but not a word of what the bible has to offer. Interesting read, as it is , it is to inconsistant, and unbelivible. There are facts missing, and things that are just to impossible to explain (using the word Faith doesnt explain a thing). I do however believe itn the bibles ultimate lesson , which is to live a good life. Other than that , it is no different froma any other book about "gods". Just my opinion...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          bottomfeeder1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          if you cant find god within yourself a book is no place to look

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't believe anyone that doesn't have a pic[avatar] [check the thread :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            'Who is this that multiples words without knowledge?' -The Book of Job

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The bible has already been re-written many times[that's how they made copies before Kinko's], and translated many different ways from the original language-even the name of the Jewish God was lost in translation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            so what's all the hub-bub...Bub?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              jesusisgr81 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              SMILEY I know taht you are hurting because you blame god for taking your daughter away but if you didnt believe in God then you couldnt blame him so I know that you believe in him your just scared and hurting which is understandable....I dont know why bad things happen to good people but I do know taht God will allow things to happen to get our attention. like a warning. God loves you and I know that you dont believe that but he does and as far as having proof that he exists or died on teh cross for us if you read the bible you will see taht teh disciples taht followed him witnessed the things that we read about and then paul wrote most of the bible and he was under teh spirit of God which since we werent there we have to have faith.. having faith is what jesus requires from us to believe in something we didnt see... you cant see the wind but you know its there by evidence of chairs blowing over or trees swaying just like jesus we taht believe in him know hes in our hearts because we feel him and through good or bad things, fair or unfair things we still love and believe in him we hurt , cry, get upset but we still love and thank him for all hes done for us.. he died for me and you so that we could live.. I know that you believe in God your just scared and mad but if you let God slowly day by day he will heal your broken heart... God love syou and so do I.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                dnncstlfdrms1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Smiley-I am so sorry for the loss of your daughter. I for one know personally how it feels to loose a child. I know how it is to find something or someone to blame. But life and death do happen. This is something that you will never get over, but only learn to live with. But for your own good, and the memory of you daughter, just keep doing your good works, and keep on loving, just knowing that my little one doesn't have to face all the mean trials of life, and maybe face the evils of this world, the hardships that just go along with living, has helped me. Although I am still selfish enough to wish I had my son back with me. Again I am so sorry for you loss

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ErinOB1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Smiley,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am so sorry for the loss of your daughter.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I consider myself a Christian, but I am embarrast by the comments that have belittled your experience and viewpoints.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Christians are supposed to be COMPASSIONATE, like Jesus.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Jesus (the trinity) being compassionate, will not condemn you to a life of hell because of your lack of faith in times of trouble. I don't care what the bible says or how loud my companions thump on it, I am tired of hearing God's name as a tool to spew what is not righteous in peoples own hearts.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  For example, "God hates homosexuals". God does not hate. Or another one "you will perish in hell if you don't subscribe the exact way that somebody else interpreted my words and wrote them into a book" . Sorry, don't believe that either, as we are God's children and God is merciful.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I believe we all know right from wrong inherently. Sometimes people do good because of the spirit that is within them, that I think is God, but they might not have that name for it. Just my thought on that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Therefore-- It would not be just of God to condemn those to hell for what they have never experienced. For example, it is easy to sit at the computer and type ones faith, but say you are born in a third world country into poverty and you have never heard of Jesus. Is that child who has suffered on Earth going to be condemned to a life of hell? HELL NO! God will love and cradle that child, as he will your daughter.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Please Christians, stop being so righteous and understand that to THREATEN somebody with hell, so they are on your spiritual belief is 'satans' job.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  As far as the new handwritten version or edition of the bible. It is a marketing tool by the book publishers. Hand written translation is not necessary. What's the point?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If somebody wants to write the versus of the bible down, go for it. But do not be so foolish as to contribute to hand writing it for a publisher who will line their pockets. Unless 100% of the proceeds goes to charity...that's 100% than it is fool's gold. Or worse yet....it's grasping at religion through commercialism. Sad to be fooled. But I'll pray for those of you who do.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Best post on this entire thread. Thanks for your honesty and heart.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LadyIsis1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh wait, NOW I remember why I left Christianity behind and became a Wiccan...in part because of this type of proselythising and nonsense!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Wiccans forget the rule of three just as often and go on about how they're superior to this or that religion because of XYZ just as much. You'll find that kind of nonsense in most traditions.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      healingbear71 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.deism.com/deism_defined.htm

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Smiley;my Heart goes out to you for the worst of ALL loses...I Believe in the Great Spirit* May you find Peace with the Love of your Friends~

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ***Bless you***

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        evangelistterry1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The NIV is the most perverted, Satan inspired version of the true Bible, that the world has ever known. Over 6000 verses have been changed from the original manuscripts. Over 3600 verses have been omitted. The Diety of Jesus is removed in a subtle but perverse way. Most who use this version, do not know because they have been influenced by their very own pastors who have been decieved.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          swasdiva1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          What version do you recommend?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'm going to recommend the JPS Etz Hayim (Torah and Commentary) for OT, the Brenton Septuagint for the Greek (w/Apocrypha), Biblia Sacra Vulgata if you love Latin, Oxford Annotated NRSV w/Apocrypha if you're stuck in English and the Barnstone/Meyer Gnostic for the stuff the others left out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            For even more of what was left out, you should read the Charlesworth Old Testament Pseudepigrapha. For ANE (Ancient Near East) text comparison, it'd be hard to go wrong with reading Kenton Spark's Ancient Texts for the Study of the Hebrew Bible.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That's if you're only going to stick with Judeo-Christianity.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          healingbear71 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.deism.com/deism_defined.htm

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Smiley; I am sorry for the the worse loss of ALL,may you find Peace with your Family~

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I Believe in the Great Spirit...and nothing man made can come before him***

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            goodie051 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            "Don't throw pearls to the swine" comes to mind. Stop arguing with these idiots who just want to play with people's emotions and get a reaction. They have nothing intelligent to say and don't have any answers. They don't want to believe (and they have the right to choose that), but at the same time they are angry about the choices others have made regarding faith.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              dg1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Read the end of faith by Sam Harris and you will understand why the beliefs of others are in fact greatly of our concern.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FesAny20001 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If the wish of this Christian book publisher is to alter the word of God to justify their mulitalted, secular,and eccentric beliefs, they should read the following word of God, and think twice before poceeding any further:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Revelation Chapter 22, verse 19:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "And if any man shall take away from th words of the book of this profecy(the bible),God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book"(the bible).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Personal opinion is that if this publishers wish is to republish what was already written "AS IS", there is nothing wrong with that, they are only helping to spread the good news.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                "Personal opinion is that if this publishers wish is to republish what was already written "AS IS", there is nothing wrong with that, they are only helping to spread the good news."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                As is meaning in the original Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Coptic? Do you want the Hebrew text to include the vowel marks that are generally agreed upon or all the variations which could completely change the meaning of certain texts? Do you want the words to be seperated in the Greek? Or all close together with no spaces so you get to figure out where one word ends (or maybe doesn't)?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                cindytax1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The Bible was written by men (Jews or Gentiles) chosen by and inspired by God. It is the inherent, infallible complete word of God. It is not to be added to or taken from. Men of today have not right to compiled their "verses" and call it a Bible. There is only one version that is God inspired.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The bible makes great rolling paper when I dont have joint paper or a dutch! lmao.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It's amusing how people come to the defense of the words in the bible, but by in large live in total disregard of its substance. The judgment is not in the words, but in the deeds.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    There are obviously many inconsistencies in the bible. Since there is the belief in the absolute perfection of God, it is only fair to attribute those inconsistencies to man's perception of the word of God. The differences of opinions in understanding the bible are the direct causes of so many religions in the world today.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I wholeheartedly agree with smiley. I went through a very similar experience and can not believe in a god whop would kill my little girl for no reason. I laugh out loud at the bible and it's followers. It's 2008!!! We don't need hokey religions or ancient weapons to explain natural phenomenon anymore. I wonder how many of you "Cristians" actually walk the walk. Do you not handle money, do you sell your daughters in to prostitution when she has pre-marital sex, do you truly believe or are you simply scared of there being nothing when you die?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i agree.. I just cant beleive in something that was supposedly written 2000 years ago. Theres no mention of prehistoric creatures, people belived the earth was flat, and the sun revolved around the Earth. Not something I can take seriously, along with Atlas, Hercules , Odin, Thor and Zues....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Well, there is lots of prophesy in the Bible for modern times too but it doesn't mention cars, computers, airplanes, etc, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Right, they exist now. Through Science and the evolution of the HUMAN mind. ( we do/did evolve- mentally)In those time people were stoned to death or worse for scientific beliefs. Its just my opinion, but its a Great Book, but so is Lord of the Rings.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I would like to apologize to any one I may have offended with my comments. I truly meant no harm. I was just looking for some understanding. I am in a very confused place when it comes to my faith and if I had been disrespectful in any way, I am sorry. I thought coming on this forum and venting my frustration with God, Jesus and the bible, I would have learned a few things from those of you who have a real faith and connection with God. I would like to thank those of you who wished me well and gave condolences, and to those who didn't you know who you are, oh well..... I'm not angry, not upset at all..... thanks for listening... ;o)111

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Smiley,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I, too, lost a daughter--to a drunk driver--so I have walked where you walk. I also have been a follower of Christ for over 30 years, so I also share your frustration. Please understand this: God does love you so much, even to the point of letting you reject that love. That is what HE is all about:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Freedom to choose Him or deny Him. That is genuine love.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I pray that He will hold you in that love.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            :-) Take care.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            BUELLMAN11 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            HAVE YOU EVER COMPAIRED ANY OF THOSE BIBLES THAT ARE OUT THERE WRITTEN BY MAN AND HAVE YOU COMPAIRED THOSE TO THE KING JAMES VERSION! IF NOT TRY IT U WILL FIND THAT THE KIND JAMES VERSION IS THE OLDEST AND CLOSES TO THE TRUE BIBLE WE HAVE AND GOD HAS GIVING IT TO US TO READ.ALL MOST EVERY ONE OF THOSE BIBLE EXCEPT THE KING JAMES VERSION MISUSE AND DELETE VERSES. THATS WHAT SATAN WANTS IS TO BLURE THE TRUTH SO NO ONE CAN FIND GOD! AND YOU DONT BELIEVE WHAT IM SAYING JUST LOOK AROUND ALL THE EVIL AND HURT IS CAUSE BY MAN. WHY IS THAT BECAUSE SATAN HAS BLURED THE TRUTH. IF HONESTLY BELIEVE IN THIS DAY AND AGE THAT 31,000 PEOPLE WILL GET TOGHTER AND WRITE AND HONEST TRUTH TELLING BIBLE. YOUR TRULY SADLY MISTAKEN.FIRTS YOU NEED EXCEPT JESUS INTO YOUR HEART THEN PICK UP THE KING JAMES BIBLE ASK GOD FOR HELP IN UNDERSTANDING IT AND WATCH WHAT HAPPEN. WE DONT NEED OTHER VERSESION OF THE BIBLE WE JUST NEED TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE ONE GOD HAS ALREADY GIVEN US.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              AMERICANEEDSJESUS1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              JUST GOES TO SHOW JESUS IS NEAR HIS RETURN. PEOPLE CHANGING THE BIBLE TO SUIT THEIR NEEDS,, THE WORK OF THE ANTI-CHRIST IS AT HAND --WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                HOUSEMD1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                HMMMM, wonder is REV. WRIGHT might get a shot at writing the bible too??????????

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  HOUSEMD1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  does anyone remember the Dead Sea Scrolls? there are parts of the Bible that are included in our King James verson that are EXACTLY the same, word for word. how do you explain that, except for the hand of God.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Now let's see.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The KJV is in English.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Dead Sea Scrolls in Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So not EXACTLY the same, word for word.. Yes?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Mutainia1 year ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      How about when translated? According to the Quran, they are supposed to be equal with the Quran as far as guidance goes. As a matter of fact, the Quran says you do good to follow the Torah. And, according to the Quran, the fault DOESN'T lie with the Bible, it hasn't been corrupted. but, the unbelief of it's adherents TOWARD the Bible. Of course, since the Bible and the Quran are total opposites when it comes to Salvation, what's that tell you about the Qur'an, O "I'm not a Muslim"? It tells us that the Qur'an is a complete and utter lie. WORSE, it's got 9:1-5, 29, and 7:3-5 within it. And, of course, 3:28 AND 16:106, allowing Muslims to lie their little turbans off.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    kaman12341 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nobody is changing the bible. The new versions font will be handwritten by lots of people. The words will be verbatim from the NIV.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      MadMike541 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      After reading the majority of these comments, I'm pretty sure that God's REAL happy about inspiring people to write the Bible!!! Never has one book caused more strife between peoples in the entire history of mankind. A book of "lessons" that was meant to guide, to help and to heal has permutated into something unrecognizable when in the hands of some. Remember, the Bible is a GOOD book.... for ALL.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        bbib11 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        THIS IS AN ABOMINATION! Zondervan has ERASED 17 ENTIRE VERSES from the New Internation Version of the Bible.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        17 vss missing from NIV
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        matt 17.21,18.11,23.14,Mk 7.16,9.44,9.46,11.26,15.28,lk 17.36,23.17,john 5.4, acts 8.37, 15.34, 24.7,28.29 rom 16.24, 1 john 5.7 total 64,000 words removed!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Is that the Bible the people want? A censored one? Anybody that participates in this will receive the damnation of God.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Revelation 22:18-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        (King James Bible)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Buy a copy of Gail Riplingers book, New Age Bible Versions and see if this is true. It is EVIL IN IT'S WORST FORM. No wonder American is falling apart suddenly.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          tmami1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Well I think this new book that they are comming up with is ok IF it was just another christian book but they're calling it the next edition of the Bible.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            bbib11 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            THIS IS AN ABOMINATION! Zondervan has ERASED 17 ENTIRE VERSES from the New Internation Version of the Bible.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            17 vss missing from NIV
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            matt 17.21,18.11,23.14,Mk 7.16,9.44,9.46,11.26,15.28,lk 17.36,23.17,john 5.4, acts 8.37, 15.34, 24.7,28.29 rom 16.24, 1 john 5.7 total 64,000 words removed!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Is that the Bible the people want? A censored one? Anybody that participates in this will receive the damnation of God.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Revelation 22:18-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            (King James Bible)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Buy a copy of Gail Riplingers book, New Age Bible Versions and see if this is true. It is EVIL IN IT'S WORST FORM. No wonder American is falling apart suddenly.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ccl1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The bible was written by people that wanted to use fear and intimidation to control people and their lives. It is the greatest book of fiction ever written. When people begin to think for themselves and reason and not put their faith in some omnipitant all seeing entity, the earth will be a much better place without half of the current problems. My god is better than your god has created more war and hate than anything else in history.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                thank you so much for putting some truth in a stream of lies and bigotry. just listening to all the condemnation going on here is just what I needed to start off another godless day. I find it hilarious how upset all the chrisitians are getting about this article that most of them obviolsy only read the headline of. Typicall christians, react before thinking or research

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Smiley111, I would like to add my condolences for the loss of your sweet daughter. I too lost my baby and wondered why God would take away my precious child. I felt hurt that God would think that my child would be better off in Heaven than with me. My heart was broken, and in some ways it still is, but I have come to believe that God never leaves us. I cannot tell you why God allows bad things to happen to people, but I am convinced that when we hurt, God is there crying with us. I don't know if that will help you. I hope so. I can't stay here much longer because all of the anger and viciousness being expressed is wearing on me. Take care of yourself, and know that you are loved.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  smiley1111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I would like to say thank you and my condolences to you as well. I may have come accross as a very bitter person who blames god and everything about him on the loss of my daughter. But i only meant that I'm still very confused about my religion. If i truly had the time to expalin why my daughter meant so much to me (i would be here forever) Long story short, my daughter came to me in an instant. and helped me. I believed that God gave her to me to tell me stop the bad things I was doing. and after I had succumed to that unconditional love, he just as quick took it away. and that is what hurts.... I have dealt with the fact that she is no longer here (allthough i feel sometimes she is, i can smell her and almost feel her presence next to me all the time) I just wish .... uh..oh I don't know what to think anymore.... grieving is such an exhuasting emotion. I wish I could have her back for 2 minutes more. I wish I could rewind the clock of time and watch her sleep. i was just looking for some one to listen...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Smile111,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I would also like to say, don't let anyone make you feel guilty for grieving as I did. No one here know what it would do to their faith if they were to suffer such loss. They can only say what they "think" they would do. But I want you to know that this pain will pass because God knows how you feel and knew before that day that this disaster would take place in your life, and He knows, because of what you have been taught through the years, that you will eventually come back to Him. After all, this is where your help and strength come from. You are not a bad person, you've just been disappointed by God as a lot of us have been, and you're only being honest about your feelings.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      AUTGR1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      111,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I am so very sorry for the loss of your precious child. I lost a 9 year old nephew to a disease called ALD which is extremely rare and affects young males only. {See the movie "Lorenzo's Oil" with Nick Nolte which is based on a true story concering this disease. ) We have no idea why he died but it was devastating. But the entire family does rejoice in the fact that we will see him again one day in heaven and he will be completely healthy. One day you also will be able to spend eternity with your daughter and all this will be forgotten. You will be so happy. But in order for this to happen you must believe in Christ and his teachings. Isn't that moment going to worth believing in him. I think so. But let it be known that you are very loved by a lot of people, more than you probaly realize. Finally, I hope to meet you and your daughter in haeave one day. By the way what is he name.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    mj711 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2 Timothy 3:16

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      TheSecretFog1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Bible says The scriptures were written as Holy Men of God Spoke as God Revealed it to them. Just as moses received the original 10 commandments (By the way, Moses was not a Jew yet the first 5 books of the bible are referred to as the books of Moses)so have all those who followed in their writting of the scriptures. Job wrote "Oh how I wished mine enemy had written a book" because if you do not have your will written, you do not have to follow through with it. God backs up the Word since he has magnified it above his name. There is much the world does not know about God and his word since the enemy has done a good job in manipulating it. The 2 key points he cannot change is that Jesus Was and is the only begotten Son Of God and that he was raised from the dead having completely fulfilled the law and is living today working in those believers who chose to follow him building his church rather than some religious structure. Follow my blog at http://www.TheSecretFog.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        All of you non-believers should read the book "A Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel and make your own judgement. Strobel is an investigative reporter and former atheist.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          YOU SHOULD READ "LETTERS TO A CHRISTIAN NATION" FORGET THE AUTHOR, POWERFUL BOOK WILL MAKE YOU THINK.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            YOU SHOULD READ "LETTERS TO A CHRISTIAN NATION" FORGET THE AUTHOR, POWERFUL BOOK WILL MAKE YOU THINK.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            All of you non-believers should read the book "A Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel and make your own judgement. Strobel is an investigative reporter and former atheist.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Since the premature death of my mother, I have had a crises of faith. I became an Deist (not overnight, but after a long perod of reflection). I bought and read numerous books about God, religion etc. This book did nothing but make me angry. Supposedly I am supposed to kow tow to a deity who slaughters innocents for a "greater good."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              All of the explanations about the problem of evil are circular and rely on biblical testimony. The Bible was written by Men and NOT by God. It is not infallible. Strobel cherry-picks the Bible--choosing what is to be taken literally and what is a metaphor for something else. If I were to believe even SOME of the Bible, I would have to conclude that God is at least partially evil in nature.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I also have to say that the analogy of the bear in the hunter's trap is the most pathetic thing I have read in a long time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The author of this book claims to be a converted atheist asking tough questions from atheist perspective in forms of interviews with experts on Christiannity. However from the onset of the first interview it becomes very obvious that the whole thing is a pretense. After asking initial question (challenge to faith) and receiving first answer, any answer, he immediately assumes the role of wideeyed student and fails to give any real challenge in the follow up questions. Any freethinker could do much better job making those "experts" to work a little harder. The whole scheme resembles a martial arts movie where cohorts of opponents run towards the hero with thieir guards down only to be knocked down.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The book really insults the readers intelligence by assuming thier lack of critical thinking. Some of the arguments for faith go something like this: "Bible prophecies prove to be accurate because it predicted coming of Christ", or "Jesus is better than other leading man of other religions because he performed more miracles which is documented in the Bible" or "Eternal hell is humane and is expression of God's respect of human dignity because those that go there make this choice themselves by not accepting Him". In case you wondered about sensless deaths of millions of children from drout and famine- that is just a result of God's perfect plan that we cannot comprehend because our minds are so inferior to His".
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              By painting himself as convert from atheism the author attempts to misguide more gullible reader into thinking that these objections are the strongest that a freethinking person could give. The book aims at the audience that only read books written from christian perspective therefore lacking any knowledge and background in history of religion, mythology, historical background etc. It truly is a propaganda. Want a real challenge and like to make up your mind by yourself- read authors that really mean what they write insead of using cheap tricks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Already read it, it doesn't worth the paper it's printed on.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                SMOKENMOSES1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Moses wrote the first five books of the bible...the rest of the oral history of the Jews was reduced to writing over the next three hundred years by various sources, and that is the old testament. I figure that most was inspired writing because we know that it was Jewish people that wrote the stuff, as it is their history, and a close scrutiny shows that the Jewish people broke over 470 covenants that had been amde with God. So why would a Jew write and record such betrayal? I figure it to be because of inspiration, otherwise I am befuddled.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The new testament was written beginning about 70 a.d., well after Jesus time. The compilation we now know as the Bible was produced by the church that is now known as the Catholic church. The leaders of that group picked and chose which letters, accounts and other renditions were to be included as part of the Bible. The four gospels had differing views on different events but all were included to show openness. Therefore, to all the literal interpretators and "the Bible is God's word" proclaimers, I say blow it out your rear. It is subject to interpretation and needs to be placed in context. Which is why Christ always used sheep in his parables; the people of that time understood the significance of sheep following the master's voice.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Grow up people, and grow a brain cell or two while you're at it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  chrisel1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  There much damages done with the existing bible there is no need for a new one.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The writing have lost much of it's meaning, by the multiple early translations from Aramaic, to Hebrew, to Greek and so on that the last 500 years or so is been used for justifying oppression destruction and war.I think is a very toxic reading and has devastating effects when practiced.Is a book written by very smart men to control other men of limited mental capacities.There are other writings that are more inclusive and elevate the soul, with out proclaiming any one as "chosen", or mapping some "promised"land and they do not depict God as a punishing force, taking pleasure by installing guild and punishing his creations (very Jewish this one)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    OK FIRST OF ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE NUT CASES. YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE READING WHEN YOU OPEN THE BIBLE! THE BIBLE WAS NOT CREATED FOR ALL OF MAN KIND! IT WAS CREATED FOR GODS PEOPLE (NOT JUST JEWS BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWN TRUTH) THE BIBLE DOES NOT CONTRADICT ITSELF AND IT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE UNDERSTOOD BY EVERYONE...HENCE PEOPLE CREATING THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION. SATAN HAS DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD BUT THE ONES THAT GOD CHOSE TO SHOW HIS TRUTH TO HAVE NO PROBLEM UNDERSTANDING THE VERY SIMPLE SENTENCES. I BET YOU DONT EVEN KNOW THAT JESUS WAS THE ONE THAT CREATED ALL THINGS AND HE HAS BEEN WITH GOD SINCE BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THIS UNIVERSE....GO PONDER THAT FOR A WHILE.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      if jesus created everything and has been with god forever, would that not make them seperate entities and therefore make christianity a (gasp!) polytheism?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      smiley111, you're not smiling. You have a great deal of anger in your heart and I think it is caused by tremendous pain. The lose of your child had to be devestating and will always be, but have you ever thought of the fact that your child is in heaven with God and unless you change your opinion of Him, you will never see your child again. Children are special in the eyes of God. Maybe he took your child to be with Him because your heart needed to be changed and He needed to get your attention.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Are you kidding? He took her child to get her attention? Look, I'm not suffering a crisis of faith, but if that's the explanation I sure as hell would. Why do people have no concept of grief as a PROCESS which takes TIME? I seriously think if anyone can commiserate with Smiley111, it's God. I'm sure he has more patience with her journey through grief than any of us do. Give her a break.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Smiley111: please try to ingnore all of the judging and insenstive comments. Even though peopole call themselves believers, followers of Christ, etc., we are all still people. No one is perfect except our lord, Jesus Christ. We all need God's grace and forgiveness. Your experience in 2005 sounds horrible. I pray you will find some comfort, knowing she is in heaven. Check out cornerstonesimi.com. There are sermons you can watch, and one is titled "Why do bad things happen to good people?". I hope this helps you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          CHOOSEYOURSELF1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Anti-brain-washer,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You seem so disrturbed, angry, why attack the christain's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ask yourself this question: What if at the end YOU are wrong.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If as a chritian I were to find out I was wrong, I have lived a life of peace and purpose without any regrets.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If I am right ( and I have faith I am) then I will live out eternity with Jesus Christ my Lord and Saviour!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If you are wrong? Where will you be? I'm not willing to gamble!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            "I'M NOT WILLING TO GAMBLE"? that does not sound like a believer. I hear that all the time. "what if your wrong?" "isn't it better to be safe?" To all the people who think this way, You are not believers, you are giving lip service to some unseen ghost that you are not sure exists, but you want to be safe?!! If there is a God, don't you think he will see right through that? Grow some balls and think for yourself!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." 2 Timothy 4:3

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              myzephyr1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LOL...the Good Book in all it's forms was written, compiled and edited by mortal man....and goes thru another editing by every single soul that reads it. Another edited, printed version will just give more people reason to argue their's is the 'correct' version. Sounds like politics to me and at the moment, we're up to our necks in it. I think Bill & Ted were on to something with 'be excellent to each other'.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                joemoody831 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                For those of you who do not believe in the Lord....what if it is true??? Ever think about that question? Have you read about the gnashing of teeth and the worst thing is eternal seperation from Lord Jesus Christ in eternal damnation. Not here to force believes on you but take a look at the word. If thats not something that i might interest you in, try reading Revelation 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part (from the tree) of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  sm1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I've followed this thread all morning with great fascination. A few points:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. I got to the "story" as many of you did, by clicking a link on AOL's home page that caught my attention. So much of AOL's "news" these days are actually BLOGS, as is this "story" posted by txclimber. Anyone can write a blog. It is poorly written as can be evidenced by all the misunderstandings in these comments. If you follow the link in the blog, it takes you to bibleacrossamerica.com, which states "Zondervan believes that a completely handwritten version of the NIV Bible by people from all across our country will help America rediscover the Bible in a fresh, new way." PEOPLE ARE NOT REWRITING THE BIBLE, MERELY COPYING IT BY HAND.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. PLEASE review your comments before hitting Send. So many of these comments are unintelligible due to misspellings and just mistaken word choices (example, "is it better to believe and be wrong, or not to believe and be wrong?") Huh?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  3. Finally, my heart goes out to Smiley. She is crying out for someone to listen to her confusion about God and to help her. I ask my fellow Christians to please pray for her, and that she will not continue to turn her back on God. No one but God can know why bad things happen to good people, but He will make it clear to all of us one day. My hope is that someone who cares will contact her, listen one on one, and help her return to God's loving arms.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    how about leave smiley alone-you busybodies are causing more harm than anything else-busybodies like you are why your biblepunching president is sending people to die and kill in iraq and afghanistan......how about mind your won business!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    For those of you who do not believe in the Lord....what if it is true??? Ever think about that question? Have you read about the gnashing of teeth and the worst thing is eternal seperation from Lord Jesus Christ in eternal damnation. Not here to force believes on you but take a look at the word. If thats not something that i might interest you in, try reading Revelation 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part (from the tree) of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      galaxytiger4191 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      curly- im sure alot of ppl will be praying for smiley..she is lost just like so many ppl in the world..something has been taken from her and she blames God, as alot do.. so you ppl don't be so quick to judge..none of us can help this girl, she has to find the lord herself, and we can only pray she does.. and the comment about animals is very ignorant.. you think animals do not have a soul,and do not get to heaven? read your bible again..animals are alot more likely to make it then most of you...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        GREAT MARKETING IDEA! I will try to one of those who copy a verse from the Bible and I would enjoy having a hand copied version of the NIV Bible. Good work Zondervan!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          pistolpete701 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Your lack of faith is apparent in some of these comments. Our bible was transscribed from original Hebrew and other ancient texts and thus was blessed by GOD in doing so. The writting of a "new" bible is unnecessary and quite frankly nothing other than lies. Do you need another book to which to base your faith? There is good and bad in all human nature, your life is the prayer and that is one of the many lessons which GOD tries to express to us.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          GODs mercy on you swine!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            sm1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            PEOPLE ARE NOT REWRITING THE BIBLE, MERELY COPYING IT BY HAND.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            i'd like to know what person thought they had the divine right to take Catholicism and alter it into the deformed multi-sectioned "christianity" it has now become. This is why all Catholics are Christians but "Christians" are not Catholic. Christians baffle me, how can you believe in something that was Catholicism altered/distorted by every day people and take it as the word of God?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              bigtymer1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I read most of the blogs and have come to the conclusion that this world is in a sad shape. When satan has almost succeed in his misson to make man/woman think that he nor god exist. Why would those of you who don't believe take the chance of loosing your soul to all of these new world lies. Unless in fact you don't believe you even have a soul. I find it ironic that you believe in what you were taught in school and embrace that learning and not the one of christian teachings. All things that exist are not always tanigble, like the wind or love. Think about the blind person who has never seen anything. They believe in lots of things they have never seen or touched. I will pray that you all be saved before it is too late. You will not be able to say on judgement day that you weren't told of him and his love and grace.(anitbrainwasher) I take it you lost someone or didn't get something you really wanted to have such a strong unbelief.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                bottomfeeder1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                my god can beat up your god

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Wait a minute, you idiots!! Christians believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God. Get the connection?? The Bible was written by his disciples, who walked on earth with him. Any "new" version is simply a book written by some guy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    cant resist standing in judgement can you?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    bottomfeeder1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    lets all kiss and make up now. how about live and let live and stop with the judgement. despite what the church says we are all perfect beings created in gods image and the world would be a lot better place if we practiced a bit of tolerance and understanding. there is no one right way to find god and killing each other in gods name is not going to help

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      trez_501 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh my goodness! Will you folks just relax... everyone can and will believe what they want to believe. But you folks need to carefully read the article. Read what’s being said. It’s interesting what people will get out of what they read. It’s obvious that the article has pushed some buttons.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My interpretation is that someone came up with an idea to make MONEY. Nothing new is being said... it's just being rewritten by people who find it interesting... and there will be MANY.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      As all the posts demonstrate, everyone holds a position with the Bible... whatever you want to believe. My point is look at the numbers this simple article evoked.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The person who came up with this idea is going to make a lot of money. Wouldn’t you go out and buy the book if you where a participant? You’re not writing anything new... but participating in something that means a lot to a lot of folks

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        eileen1131 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's funny, most people ask why God lets bad things happen to good people, but I wonder why God lets bad things happen to bad people as well. I don't believe God sits around waiting for a chance to smote anyone. I believe God loves everyone, so why does God allow pain and suffering? But, in this room many of the contributers seem to be far more upset with the idea that God allows good things to happen to 'bad' people. They don't seem to want a loving God, and certainly not the passionately loving God that Jesus described.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          myzephyr1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Tho I believe there is a higher power, I've chosen not to give it a name. I believe it guides. I don't believe it causes events, saves, or condemns. It IS. And that's all it needs to be. Whatever your religion, if it works for you, that's a good thing. I must say, the concept of being 'saved' is a bit baffling. Must I believe in the tenets of YOUR beliefs? Is the concept just a safety net to make us feel better for the things we've done or haven't done for that matter on this plane? If I've lived a relatively good life, I don't see a reason for concern. If I haven't, my 'hell' is right here, right now. If one thinks one can be 'saved' despite one's actions/thoughts, it seems just a way to leave this world in a better frame of mind...even if it's only the last 5 seconds. But then again, that's not belief, only desperation. Until all the factions stop the arguing and the finger of God pointing, I find it useless to attach myself to the battle of religious oneupmanship.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Kropkrap1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            31,000 Americans, that's a lot of people tha tinstead of writing a Bible sould give a dollar to africa

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              GOATFACE381 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              TO ALL THE NONBELIVERS IF I'M WRONG I'VE LOST NOTHING.IF YOU ARE WRONG YOU HAVE LOST EVERYTHING.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                i LOVED YOUR COMMENT. iT'S LIKE THIS-- pEOPLE SAY THEY CAN'T SEE gOD, SO hE MUST NOT BE REAL. yOU CAN'T SEE A HEADACHE, BUT YOU SURE KNOW IT'S REAL. hELEN

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                What??? Re-write the BIBLE? Is this a JOKE???

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  sm1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  READ IT AGAIN. PEOPLE ARE NOT REWRITING THE BIBLE. THEY ARE COPYING IT BY HAND!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I believe that Jesus said in john 3:3 unless you are born again you can not enter the kingdom of heaven.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  the bible is written to believers whether jew or gentile he is Lord of all God is in control.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    seriouslyopinionated1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    First of all, when they say New International Version translation it sounds to me that they are redoing the bible not simply hand writing it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Secondly, who's to say for sure which religion is the accurate religion. After all there are multiple cultures that predate Jesus by thousands of years that had nearly the same beliefs that Christians do today. The Egyptians (3500 BC) believed in Horus who was born of the Virgin Maya (I believe), on December 25th, he had 12 deciples, performed miracles, was dead for 3 days, and was resurrected. Sound familiar? There is a list of at least 20 cultures predating Jesus that had all of these same qualities, a little more than ironic I would think.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Doesn't one of the 10 commandments state thou shall not worship false idols? Who's to say what is false and what is not. We all believe what we are told to believe and we do not question it. I, for one, do not believe anything unless there is substantial proof.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I am not saying that there isn't a "God" I do believe that there is a higher power, and I believe that if you are good and do good things you will be rewarded. But I DO NOT believe that murderers and child rapist will be rewarded simply because they accepted Jesus and I will go to hell because I do not. This is CRAP!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    check out this movie, it sheds a lot of light on the world:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    www.zeitgeistmovie.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      dncarm61 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      So now you self- righteous hypocrites are going to re-write
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      the bible. OOh, maybe the president will scribble something.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hey, I know, let's get O.J. Simpson to write something too!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I suppose all you fanatic zealots will BUY a copy (of course,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      GOD needs money too!)What a bunch of weakminded, brainwashed,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      'holyer than thou' suckers! Go ahead now, let me have it,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      spout some more innane rhetoric, shout some dumb scriptures,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (that makes them true) I'm just sitting here as happy as a
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      lark, comfortable with my own mortality, and enjoying life
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      while you are all squirming around in fear of 'god' and 'devil'
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      and confessing all your sins to try to buy a ticket to
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      'heaven'.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I am going to re-write "Moby Dick". Anyone have any fish stories to contribute. Also working on a new dictionary for the tree stumps who blog. You know words like..hmmm....just not that stupid. Any help Sarah Palin fans?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          myzephyr1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LOLOL I'm sure King George Orwell will have many somethings to contribute

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          SITTING HERE READDING THE GOOD AND THE BAD OF THESE BLOGS ...I THINK THE POINT MISSED IS IT STILL COMES DOWN TO FAITH..YES THERE HAS BEEN A LOT LOST IN TRANSLATION...BUT CAN YOU BE THE ONE TO RETRANSLATE THE BIBLE? IF NOT THEN FAITH MUST CARRY YOU ON!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            woe to you oh earth and sea for the devil sends the beast with wrath because he knows the time is short ..let him who have understanding recon the number of the beast for it is a human number..its number is 666

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              dncarm61 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              how many tattoos do you have? are you writing a bible too?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                just think.... 2000 years from now someone will be quoting from Harry Potter. I heard that was a good book too!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                to godpleaser1 -- you are exactly what I'm talking about!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Just your moniker proves how you see yourself. 'god-pleaser?)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Give me a break! Typical vanity seen quite often in bible-
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                thumpers. Isn't vanity supposed to be a sin? You better tell
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                god your're sorry, quick! Before he reads this.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's a sad thing to see so many people think LOVE is a BAD THING..FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE...THATS A BAD THING..MARY

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    sorry to make you SO SAD. Love is a good thing. Did you just make that up?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    funny how I thought my family and friends taught me that, but I guess YOU
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    had to read it somewhere.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This is my third attempt to get this message out there to all of you. I hope it works.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The pope is the anti-christ. The Roman Catholic Church has changed the bible to fit there views. To honor and keep holy the sabbeth. Saturday Not Sunday. Most people know that Saturday is the 7th day of the week. LOOK at your calendars. but still to choose worship on Sunday the first day of the week. Read your bibles and you will see this for your self.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The pope also has graven images in his church. and the people to bow down to him and worship him another big NO NO. but wait it gets better.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    On the popes MITRE: reads VICARIUS FILII DEI::: WHICH MEANS VICAR OF THE SON OF GOD. Okay wait.... Remember the bible says in Revelations 13:18 count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a MAN: and his number is six hundered and threescore and six (666) remember the roman numerals you learned in school? VICARIUS--- v=5,i=1,c=100,a=0,r=0,i=1,u=5,s=0 FILII f=0, i=1,l=50,i=1,i=1 and DEI d=500 e=0 i=1 total =666 not think about this people Do you really think this is a coinsidence? I think not.... and who was it that killed Jesus? oh thats right the high priest of the Roman Catholic church.... hmmm. Read National Sunday Law written by A.JAN Marcussen.. a very interesting read. with many many quotes right from your bible to reference yourself. Dont take my word for it.. Check for yourself.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      A priest of the Roman Catholic Church killed Jesus?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      What kind of crack are you smoking?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      There was no Catholic Church when Jesus lived. There wasn't even a Christian Church. They weren't even Christians. They were, every one of them, Jews and worshiped as Jews who believed Christ was the Messiah they had been told about.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      God. You conspiracy theorists are NUTS!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Omniscience1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      As I read these post I notice alot of name calling and negative energy towards each other..Religon is the main cause of war...do not feed into this negative behavior or war will continue...one thing religon fails to teach us is that we as humans have more power than we know...they don't want us to know this because then we would not need religon and they lose power and control of us....look at the vatican....rome still rules the world...not by force as in the Roman empire...but by religon..catholics live in fear....so they give all control of their lives in someone elses hands..but i'm here to tell you we are all ominpresent...we control our own destiny..
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      read THE MASTER KEY SYSTEM.....
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Raised in a Muslim household and later attending Christian and Catholic churches...i was in search of what one would call the truth...in my research i came across a discovery for the ages...all modern day religons have a trace back to Egypt...the Christian religon in particular has alot of similarities to the egyptian religon... they even speak of a character identical to jesus ...but by all means please do not take my word for...i challenge anybody reading this to do their own research and you too will become omnipresent with the truth..
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        seriouslyopinionated1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        www.zeitgeistmovie.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thank you,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Did you watch it...what did you think

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, it is a little slow at first but definately one of the most interesting movies I have had the opportunity to watch. I have seen many religions throughout my life. At a young age my Bible thumping hyprocritical grandmother forced us to go to her Babtist church, my stepmother was Jahovah Witness, I had friends that were both penacostal (probably not spelled right, sorry) and catholic. None of these religions make the least bit of sense to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think America needs to WAKE UP before we are all doomed. I recently began investigating many aspects that are currently occuring in our world and I am scared to death! Youtube has me ready to crawl into a cave somewhere between the LHC, New World Order, RFID 666 chip (mark of the beast),and HAARP articles that they have posted.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Like I stated in my earlier post I do believe that there is a higher power somewhere I just don't believe in the same "God" that the religions of the world push you to believe in. I think that religion is the same as government out for absolute power and money.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Anti brainwasher dude has a real eye-opener coming.....dont fret though....there is lots of grace where he is and you'll get a chance to choose after you get to know the truth.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If Muslim Americans take part in this, I wonder if they will add "imposter" before the name "Jesus" when it's talking about Jesus going to the cross? If so, the Bible could then read, "And imposter Jesus Christ said to the thief on the cross, 'this day you WON'T be with me in Paradise, for ye did not do any butt in the air toward a place called Mecca.'"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            not sure if i understood your comment but Muslims do acknowledge Jesus existance, and go intogreat detail of his life. He is mentioned in the Quran as one of the greates prophets- EVER- just not the son of God. .. (not picking a fight...)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Go ahead pick a fight. It's easy to win against her. Just present facts that counter her incessant hatred of Muslims.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Like Mormonism, or Jehovah's Witnesses, Islam also preaches A Jesus. A Jesus who doesn't go to a cross, but, (as many Muslims believe), sent an imposter who LOOKED like him, to the cross (some believe it was Judas), and, because of this deception from Allah, Christians are going to be going to hell, since, in THEIR Holy Book, the Bible, everything seems to be based on original sin and Christ coming to correct what original sin created. The Quran dethrones Christ, makes him a mis-understood prophet who, according to some Muslim scholars, deceives Christians by putting an imposter on the cross, instead. In otherwords, Jesus is seen as a Savior in Christianity, a deceiver in Islam. It's up to YOU to choose which Jesus you want to believe in. The One I believe in, or, the one, I feel, Dionys secretly believes in, but, denies that he believes in, possibly due to the Muslim practice of "al-taqqiya", thanks to Quran 3:28 and 16:106, which, again, allow the Muslim to lie and "bare false witness", breaking ONE of the Commandments of the Torah, or, as the Quran says, "The Book given to Musa" (which the Quran equates WITH the Quran). Don't believe me? Check THIS out:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                "SHAKIR: Say: O followers of the Book! you follow no good till you keep up the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and that which is revealed to you from your Lord; (Quran?)"
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  More lies. Read what she tells you to read in the Qur'an. Then you can see she's lying.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  As to how Jesus is depicted in the Qur'an, read that too. Both he and Mary are revered as prophets. Even the Bible doesn't do Mary the honor she deserves. Who saw Christ first after he was reborn? Maybe Mary should have been the first Pope, huh.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  More lies spread to spread hatred against Muslims. Jesus wept.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You mean read 9:1-5, 9:29, and 7:3-5, O "I'm not a Muslim"? You mean read 3:28 and 16:106 that allow YOU to lie about not being a Muslim? IF, again, you aren't a Muslim, like you claim, give THREE good reasons as to why you aren't a Muslim? One MAIN reason why I KNOW you are a Muslim, is because you NEVER present evidence for your labels against me. You just SAY I lie without ANY evidence to back it up. That is just SOOOOO Jihadi.

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