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Posted By Karlyc 1 year, 1 month ago in News"Sarah Palin is a real story of accomplishment. She is a real fresh face, a fresh voice in this election. She is genuinely American. Her story can be vouched for by hundreds. Obama's story must be hidden. Obama's story must be rewritten. Obama has no one vouching for his story. She, Sarah Palin, she is the real citizen activist. She got involved in government at the local level, first at a PTA, 'cause the school was screwing up; then the city council; then as mayor, and she did it all on her own. She took on several well-heeled and well known politicians to win the Republican primary and then the general election to become governor. She took on corruption in her own party. She is not only as far from the Washington cesspool as anybody can get, but she doesn't think like a big-government ..."
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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Like moths on a fire all articles spreading the true story of this amazing women are rudely attacked. "You're being told by the media propagandists that Sarah Palin is not qualified to be vice president. You're being told she's dumb. You're being told she's a religious extremist, that she's dangerous. Let me be as clear about this as I know how. These attacks on Governor Palin are attacks on you and attacks on me. They are attacking every single person outside the Beltway, outside the New York-Washington axis, outside their social circle of elitist friends who represents what's great about this country."
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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FTA: "The only good sign for McCain is that the debate is tonight with Palin, but Palin is so incompetent and unqualified, that's a loser. Gwen Ifill is going to be totally fair, we got nothing to worry about here. It's over. Early voting in Ohio going on, that means a lot of fraud probably taking place there. That's what they want you to believe. Don't buy it. "
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Actually within a year of becoming governor of Alaska, Palin was already up to her neck in the corruption surrounding Jack Abramoff, who has since been convicted for fraud. Far from being the honest voice you claim, she is just new corruption.
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Palin's Lobbyist Has Abramoff Ties
It looks like Sarah Palin's claim to represent a cleaner brand of politics could be about to take a bruising.
The Washington Post reports today that, while Mayor of Wasilla, Palin oversaw the hiring of a lobbyist, Steven Silver -- a former chief of staff to now-indicted GOP senator Ted Stevens -- to help win federal earmarks for the city.
But Silver appears to have additional ties that could further undercut Palin's image as a squeaky-clean reformer. According to Senate lobbying disclosure reports examined by TPMmuckraker, from 2002 to 2004 Silver listed as a client Jack Abramoff's lobbying firm, Greenberg Traurig. On Greenberg's behalf, Silver lobbied the federal government on "issues relating to Indian/Native American policy," "exploration for oil and gas" and "legislation relating to gaming issues" -- the very issues that Abramoff headed up for Greenberg at the time. In other words, Silver appears to have been a part of "Team Abramoff."...
...This is far from the first time that Abramoff's trail of corruption has led to Alaska. Last year, Mark Zachares, a former aide to Young, pleaded guilty to accepting tens of thousands of dollars in gifts from Abramoff in return for using his position to advance Abramoff's goals...
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Well Karlyc, Palin seems to have bought into the state propaganda that we are "winning" in Iraq. That alone is enough to disqualify her as a serious candidate - easily fooled and unwilling to inform herself.
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Iraq Facing New Civil War, Insurgency
What does the start of a new civil war in Iraq look like? It looks a lot like this: ....
...Here's a conclusion from the Pentagon's own quarterly report on Iraq, in typical bureaucratese...
...All this makes mincement of John McCain's assertion that his vaunted "surge" has led to "victory" in Iraq. It hasn't. The country is seething with violence and political fissures that are very deep. It's ready to explode. Barack Obama, who's been defensive about the surge, ought to slam McCain for his support, in 2006, for escalating the war. Obama -- along with the entire US military leadership back then, most of Congress, and the Baker-Hamilton Iraq Study Group -- wanted to start pulling US forces out of Iraq two years ago. Had they won, the war would be over. Instead, the next president will take office with more than 150,000 troops in Iraq. ..
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hamy1 year, 1 month ago
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No my dear, she is being attacked because she is running for the highest political office in the land and as such should be able to take some poking and ridiculing. Especially since she deserves it for her extreme viewpoints and inability to form cohesive thoughts.
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fourthtunz1 year, 1 month ago
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ARE YOU PAID BY RUSH? YOU NEED TO WAKE UP, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTIES AND 5 MINUTES ON THE NET WILL EDUCATE YOU TO THE CRIMINAL ACTS PERPETRATED BY BOTH PARTIES!
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SARAH PALIN IS MERELY A TOOL, JUST AS BUSH AND CLINTON WERE.
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Nothing_Tangible1 year, 1 month ago
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Sorry to inform you, but MOST people don't require ANYONE in the media or otherwise to form their own opinion about Palin. I don't need any "media propagandist" to tell me Palin is a bit of a ditz. I have watched every second of the very limited interviews of Palin being herself and I have never seen anything special, I have never seen ANYTHING beyond her being a self proclaimed "hockey mom."
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The more I see of her, the more it seems EVERYTHING she says is just a portion of the same scripted speech she gave at the GOP convention. When pressed for an answer, she just seems to rearrange part of the script a little without giving a direct answer.
Having now seen the Biden/Palin debate, I find it a bit annoying that she tries to pass herself off as the average middle class hockey mom. Having an income near $130,000 in 2006 and nearly $170,000 in 2007 definitely puts her well above the average middle class family. While it may not qualify as being rich to a lot of people, her income and lifestyle are well into the affluent catagory. How many middle class families do you know that can afford to have a sea plane parked at their private dock at their lakeside home?
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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The challenge for Palin is to be herself. The challenge for Biden is to not be himself. Lol.
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FTA: "Nobody is talking about what expectations we have of Biden. Nobody is talking about what a drag on the ticket Biden might be. I'll tell you what Biden's big challenge tonight is, is to avoid being himself -- and I'm going to tell you something, folks. It's much easier to be who you are than it is to fake it and try to not be who you are, and Biden's got to do the latter. Biden has got to avoid being himself. We'll see. This woman is gutsy. She is courageous. She is fearless. She has been here before in debates. We'll just see all of this Drive-By Media conventional wisdom. "-
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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the challenge for Americans is to see that Palin just represents a continuation of GOP corruption.
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Abramoff, McCain, Palin, Corruption & the GOP…
...John McCain is not a reformer, a “maverick” or even a honest man. ALL of this is a carefully crafted myth!
And now McCain has a Mini-Me—a younger version of himself. The Republican Party has manufactured yet another “reformer with results’ in the mold of McCain and his patron, George W. Bush and now she is on the ticket.
I’m talking, of course, about the Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin. And to become Governor, she defeated the only Republican ever to oppose Jack Abramoff BEFORE the Abramoff scandal became news.
Like McCain, Palin’s reform credentials are built on a carefully constructed myth. On closer examination, her record is all hat and no cattle. And yet, we can count on McCain’s well trained sycophants in the media to sing her praises and believe whatever line of BS Curveball John and his cadre of lobbyists feed them.
Palin, McCain and their Republican Party are mired in corruption. They can not clean up Washington or anything else. They are the problem....
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Wolfie20071 year, 1 month ago
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There is a vast disconnect between ordinary people and politicians in Washington and the main stream media, too. Sort of like they have no real concept of peoples lives out side their own circles. They also seem to have no desire to "get to know us", either. To them Obama was right, "we cling to our bibles and guns".
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Well Palin seems to be clinging to the myths that totalitarian propaganda from the Pentagon has constructed for gullible Americans. Why would anyone want someone who is that easily suckered as a political leader?
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Iraq: They Make It a Desert and Call It Peace
Senator McCain’s insistent claims that the US is winning the war in Iraq thanks to his "surge" strategy are the military-political equivalent of the junk securities that Wall Street’s shady financiers have been selling around the globe.
...McCain’s claims that the US is heading toward victory in Iraq thanks to his inspired military leadership immediately recalled the epic words of Pyrrhus, King of Eprius. In 281 BC, after defeating a Roman army at Heraclea in an extremely bloody, hard-fought battle in which his forces suffered grave losses, Pyrrhus famously exclaimed, "one more such victory and we are ruined!" ...
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Well, there is certainly a disconnect Wolfie. The reason they don't want to get to know you is that you might object to their corruption.
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McCain's Kremlin Ties
Over the course of the presidential campaign, John McCain has repeatedly emphasized his willingness to stand up to Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin as proof that only he possesses the fortitude and judgment to become the next leader of the free world. His running mate, Sarah Palin, suggested in her first major interview that the United States might have to go to war with Russia one day in order to protect Georgia--the kind of apocalyptic scenario the United States avoided during the cold war.
...Yet despite McCain's tough talk, behind the scenes his top advisers have cultivated deep ties with Russia's oligarchy--indeed, they have promoted the Kremlin's geopolitical and economic interests, as well as some of its most unsavory business figures, through greedy cynicism and geopolitical stupor. The most notable example is the tale of how McCain and his campaign manager, Rick Davis, advanced what became a key victory for the Kremlin: gaining control over the small but strategically important country of Montenegro...
...The story of how McCain's closest aides and employees have been undermining his vociferously expressed opposition to Putin and Russia's oligarchs offers a highly disturbing preview of what a McCain administration might look like. When McCain's campaign proclaims "country first," one has to wonder, Which country? The one with the highest bidder?
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rosecityfriend1 year, 1 month ago
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The media seems to think that Sarah is running to be Vice President of Trivial Pursuit instead of a maverick of reform, which is why McCain picked her. They don't focus on her actions which are substantial, but on her words which they judge as too lowly, and they focus on Obama's words which are lofty instead of his actions, which are nil. I wish this format was a town hall instead of this formal debate.
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slate1 year, 1 month ago
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Pre Planned? Do you think Biden just walked on the stage and didn't pre plan? If I remember, Joe read a few times straight from his pre planned noted a paragragh at a time, one time his heads were in his pre planned notes for about 45 seconds without looking up.
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wtagg1 year, 1 month ago
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I never got the feeling that she didn't have oratory skills, in fact, just the opposite. The issue is when she speaks too much or goes on when a simple "That is something I need to investigate more". Sometimes it is best to keep the ball in play and let the opposition make the mistake.
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She should have never brought in McCain (or allowed the McCain camp to force the issue) in the follow up with Couric. It gave the impression she needed her hand held and needed help, whether she did or did not, especially bad considering that I personally believe that Couric is a soft interview.
Yes, she did much better, but not in the same league as her speech at the convention. It gives the impression that she can inspire only with a preplanned presentation. On her own, she is no better than McCain and Obama. This is supported by the McCain handlers carefully controlling her access in the past month.
I thought she was a gutsy, but very risky choice by McCain. I think it was to demonstrate that he was still the maverick. It may be hard to keep her moving in the direction the McCain campaign wants her to pointed in. It has made the campaign much more interesting, but that may not be to McCain's advantage anymore. -
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sumptuousdigs1 year, 1 month ago
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How can an article only have 11 props, yet have 386 reads in just a couple of hours? Something stinks to high heaven here.
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The article does stink!
Like a lot of the garbage the neos post on propeller, I don't prop it. I do look in on it though.
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donald511 year, 1 month ago
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So why no question of Palin on Government transparency and her blocking troopergate? Realeased her tax records or her support of indicted ted Stevens?
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Her cronies on her "cabinet" argues her answer tonight as well as her mention of "Iraq blunders" - the women so contradicts herself, she neither knows her party position or her own! She said to deregulate healthcare too! Fundamentals becomes singular to her and means only the America worker, Palin's Shia'a' extremists(?).... the list of mistakes continues!-
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donald511 year, 1 month ago
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Petraeus never made Iraq the central front... Dumya did! McClellan was in the US civil war! Palin: "US a beacon of hope," even with torture. preemptive war, eavesdropping on Americans and Gitmo... right! You can't build Palin's "infrastucture" and still reduce taxes as she said!
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Yes, just more of the same lies we heard from Dumya for the last 9 years!
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orndorffter1 year, 1 month ago
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EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE BUILDING SARHA PALIN UP, SHES NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT WHY THE BIG ISSUE ABOUT HER? THIS WAS A DEBATE AND THATS ALL. HAVE YOU FORGOT THE THINGS THAT SHES DONE? ALASKA IS EVEN WARNING US ABOUT HER. BUT I THOUGHT BIDEN DONE VERY WELL IN THE DEBAYE AND WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT HIS DEAD WIFE HE WAS SERIOUS, JUST LIKE ANY MAN OR WOMEN WHO LOST THEIR MATE WOULD DOAS WELL. BY THE WAY I DONT CARE FOR PALIN AS YOU ALL DO I COULD GET ALONG WITH HER AND PROBLEY EVEN BE HER FRIENE. IT REALLY DOES'NT MATTER TO YOU THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN HURT FROM HER SO FAR AND HOW MANY MORE WELL SUFFER BECAUSE OF PALIN? YES SHE ALSO DI A GOOD JOB TONIGHT AT THE DEBATE. I REALLY CAN'T COMDEM HER FOR WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING, YOUR JUST GING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE INSTWAD OF HELPING HER , PEOPLE WELL GET MAD AND TURN THEIR VOTES FOR THE OTHER PARTY.
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joeblowe1 year, 1 month ago
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Alaska is WARNING us about her? That's a bit ridiculous. The person I'm hearing from in Alaska - who has met here and is familiar with her, is STRONGLY in favor of her. Perhaps you are referring to the corrupt people she threw OUT of office in Alaska? Sure, they are undoubtedly FULL of dire warnings - for the corrupt knuckleheads in D.C. You don't get 80% approval ratings by being a screw up. You just plain DON'T. And there is simply no way to sputter and try to argue around that. Unless you are ONLY listening to the 20% who disapprove? Making you a Democrat, we would presume?
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Albmore1 year, 1 month ago
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Americans have you hurt enough yet?
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1. Lets look at facts and not our party lines. We are in a major bind. First as we look into are finance crunch here let us not be fooled who is responsible and who knew what. Sen. Obama is in his short term in office one of the major sponsored members from the top fallen bank. Does anyone want to tell me that he did not know what was going on? Also we have a democratic majority who has recieved millions and have looked the other way. The democrats pushed for these morgages that could not be repaid. So fact number one Obama is not change. In his short time of NO votes and in office he has learned to play the game very well.
2. Now we have a president that does not seem to be either one, knowledgable or straight out not smart enough to run the economic spector of our country. Well that problem will be solved in November.
3. As I look into the senate and congress I see dino's on both sides. How have most of these members been allowed to sit in these seats for so long? Answer, our ignorance in politics. Make NO mistake we have allowed the government to run away with our nation by not holding them accountable.
4. It is time to vote the majority of all these offices in November. I disagree strongly with Obama that we need more government in our lives and higher taxes will kill the middle class. The democratic congress has the lowest ratings in history and have accoplished almost nothing but recieving nice pay checks. Along with a rep. President who went on a spending spree. Make NO mistake again every dollar that was spent was approved through a democratic congress who had the majority. Both Bush and the democratic congress must leave.-
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Grancher1 year, 1 month ago
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I thought it was pretty obvious that Palin was chosen primarily because she is a woman, and a pretty woman at that. One advantage of the McCain-Palin ticket is that the office of the vice president will probably return to its former more or less marginalized status. The Obama-Bidin ticket on the other hand could further strengthen the vice presidency.
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The claim that Palin is just like us though is silly. She is a vice presidential candidate for a major party, she has the powerful friends, the donnars with agendas, she's done the same dirty business that all the others have, if she hadn't she wouldn't be anywhere close to where she is.-
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Albmore1 year, 1 month ago
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I must disagree with you here somewhat. Although I do believe the donars have their own agenda , I believe Palin was not picked because of her dirty business, it was just the opposite, she was one of the only ones she could find that didn't have alot of dirt under the carpet that would produce a definate loss in November and a good counter, for a new Obama. Like I have written I believe the majority on both sides need to be voted out be it rep or democratic. This congress and president have really hurt our nation.
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Bush has kept us safe, but has let our economy crash and this congress has done nothing.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago
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''The claim that Palin is just like us though is silly. She is a vice presidential candidate for a major party, she has the powerful friends...''
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They think we're stupid. They think we'll believe she's just another soccer mom/joe sixpack/hockey lipsticked pitbull with five puppies.
The contempt that that 'soccer moms and Joe Sixpacks' comment has in it for us sets the teeth on edge. If they say sh!t like that to get the attention of 'the regular people', they must think those people are as gullible as rubes in the Big City
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Albmore1 year, 1 month ago
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5. We must realize only the people of this nation can change our direction. I like McCains idea that he will veto all pork barrel spending and openly put out those names who intoduce such bills. Americans need to get involved in politics, it is the only way for accountability. We must want to informed on exactly what those who are being paid for by our money are doing. It is the American people who fuel this machine with their money and the American people MUST run our government and not the other way around.
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We need balance. I will give an example, on finace we need a Mitt Romney, a Ron Paul and a Bill Clinton.
6. No more pay raises for any representative until we see major progress. Strong regulation on our banking system.
Last but not least we need to destroy both parties and vote as Americans. Total lock down of the government how it now exist. On major issues doors will be locked until a solution is found for each problem according to its department. Such matters as gay marrage to be determined by state and local governments. Towns and states who balance their budgets should be rewarded and those who dont will recieve no hand outs. America needs to live within its means. Not just the average citzen but the government also.-
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Petavius1 year, 1 month ago
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Yes, I think that Obama knew about the present mortgage mess long ago and may have aided its development through his work with ACORN and connection to Fannie Mae. Hungry, out of work people are more likely to vote for what they see as "change,", any change when they are desperate. This has long been a ploy of the world Communist movement, with which Obama has a connection through his Kenya connection with the Communist prime minister Raila Odinga. This "change" concept is part of the Orange Democratic Movement, a worldwide Communistic organization. Make the connections. Read _The Obama Nation_ by Corsi before we become one!
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slate1 year, 1 month ago
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Don't you think it's time for someone that is more like the PEOPLE to help change America over the usual slick politician that makes a mere salary of less than 200K yet lives in a 3 million dollar estate on 4 acres on a lake? How does Joe afford to do what the noral guy can't? Any thoughts?
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72LIAME1 year, 1 month ago
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ISN'T IT A SAD STATE OF AFAIRS WHEN WITH 300 MILLION PEOPLE TO CHOOSE FROM--WE GET A MCCAIN, AND AN OBAMA---I HAVE BEEN VOTING FOT THE LEAST WORSE FOR MANY MANY YEARS..
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IT IS ALL BECAUSE WE ALLOW OUR JOURNALISTS TO BRING UP THINGS NOT RELAVENT ABOUT CANDIDATES...WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE A MAN WHO HATES WOMAN??? A MANS LOVE LIFE SHOULD NOT EVEN ENTER THE PICTURE..SHOW ME AMN WHO DOES NOT LOOK AT WOMEN, AND I WILL SHOW YOU A QUEER..AND--EVEN QUEERS COULD MAKE GOOD POLITICIANS..AS LOING AS THEY ARE NOT IN THE CLOSET..
OBAMA--AN EX MUSLIM?? REALLY--WE COULD DO BETTER..
MCCAIN--A VERY OLD MAN--WHO HAS A TRACK RECORD OF STICKING
UP FOR THE OIL COMPANYS ..BIG BUSINESS,,BUT--NOT HELPING -WE THE PEOPLE...
THESE ARE ALL THAT IS LEFT--OUT OF 300 MILLON PEOPLE????
OUR ELECTION SYSTEM IS FLAWED..WE SHOULD DO BETTER..
"CAREER'POLS ARE OUR PROBLEM--RE ELECT NONE--PROBLEM SOLVED...
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Bruedaddy1 year, 1 month ago
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I disagree. I think they BOTH did well, but no clear winner.
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Sarah is simply not sophisticated enough to play on the world stage.
I also don't get the liberal media comments as usual. I see John McCain on the news at least 3 to 1 to Obama. No sheet, I see him Live on the news channels EVERY DAY. How is that liberal bias?
sarah did well, but she only spouted her script and DID NOT answer quite a few questions. SEVERAL times she looked lost and empty behind those designer frames.
how does someone with her cash flow, properties, cars and whatever call herself "Joe 6 pack"?
She is just to trailer park for me.
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joeblowe1 year, 1 month ago
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What the hell do you mean, "not qualified." She is MORE qualified - by a SIGNIFICANT measure than ANY of the other three. NONE of which has EVEN been mayor of a small town, let alone governor of the largest state in the union - meaning they have NO executive experience WHATSOEVER. I'm sorry, but you sound really stupid when you call the person running with the MOST qualification, "unqualified."
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Newenglander1 year, 1 month ago
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I watched the debate last night and I found Palin to be left wanting. She never answered a question directly and the whole evening seemed more of a political platform for her views rather than a venue to show the differences between the candidates.Her speeches seemed to be more rehearsed talking points than actual reaction to the subject at hand. I feel shortchanged by this debate or rather lack of debate. I found Biden to be boring and pedantic until towards the end of the debate when he seemed to get into the spirit of the debate.
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vor1 year, 1 month ago
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"Her speeches seemed to be more rehearsed talking points than actual reaction to the subject at hand."
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The Republican way! More correctly the Limbaugh way! It has afterall won them the last two national elections. What amazed me is that Palin actually appealed for simple mindedness. The very evil that gave us GW Bush. Remember he was the guy you could actually have a beer with at the local bar. (despite his silver spoon upbringing and the fact he doesn't drink at all).
We don't have to pursue alternative energies, just drill, drill, drill! Biden offered the correct stat. We hold 3% of the worlds petroleum and use 25%. Doesn' t take much to figure we will be importing oil for the known future. This whole drilling debate is a canard. It will not solve our problems and the oil companies are not even drilling in previously designated areas now. They are doing just fine with the imports. Plenty of profit margin there. No one ever talks about the costs of extracting oil from differing locations. No one can compete with the Saudi's on that one. They have by far the lowest extraction costs.
Last night we heard nothing about conservation or the need for additional refining capacity, critical issues if we keep insisting on mainlining the black devil. And as a nation we are not addressing those critical issues either. Palin is just representative of the trouble we are truly in at this point. That people would turn to such a person is a sad commentary on the state of the nation. Her cutesiness belies the dark side of GOP politics and who they truly represent. It certainly isn't the average American (the ones whose average income is 45k).
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