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Posted By hsaleem 1 year, 2 months ago in News

Allow me to introduce myself. I am a traitor and an idiot. Also, my mother should have aborted me and left me in a Dumpster, but since she didn't, I should "off" myself.

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    hsaleem1 year, 2 months ago

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    The Mccain-Palin supporters don't have anything constructive to say when their ridiculous candidates lack of actual substance is ridiculed, so they instead resort to threats and personal attacks.

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      mark-stevens1 year, 2 months ago

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      People in general, are idiots, or dangerous, or both. Rememeber God loves all of us and, and will send us to hell forever, if we don't get it right.

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        miklkit1 year, 2 months ago

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        I can't decide what to do with your comment. How does your god decide who is right or left? Do you have any evidence that there actually is a hell? What is your personal representative of your god saying about who is going to hell?

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          mark-stevens1 year, 2 months ago

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          Not "my" God. I never mentioned politics. I don't decide those things. It's what churchse teach.

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            mark-stevens1 year, 2 months ago

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            Don't blame me, I didn't come up with that reward/punishment program!!

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              mark-stevens1 year, 2 months ago

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              Don't blame me, I didn't come up with that reward/punishment program!!

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                mark-stevens1 year, 2 months ago

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                I don't make up the rules, that's a church thing!!

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                RKO1 year, 2 months ago

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                Does Sarah Palin actually believe in witches?

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                  Engnr1 year, 2 months ago

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                  Of course there are witches, That is like asking if there are UFO's? Of course there are. The real question is do they have supernatural powers?

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                    dunkirk1 year, 2 months ago

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                    They must after all Palin's pastor is out to have Harry Potter burned at the stake. ROFLMAO.

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                      protoham1 year, 2 months ago

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                      He is just saying that there are people who claim to be witches just like people claim to see UFOs. What is so hard to understand about that?

                      Or is that ROFSIT. (Rolling on Floor Speaking in tongues ) Think about it, it is kind of the same thing.

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                        crespi1 year, 2 months ago

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                        Maybe speaking in tongues is the language of some saucer-people...

                        Maybe people who speak in tongues are abductees...

                        Find all the people who speak in tongues and check their anuses...

                        : )

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                  RKO1 year, 2 months ago

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                  Hey mark-stevens,

                  Do you have the receipe for Aunt Sara's moose stew?

                  Yum!!

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                    mark-stevens1 year, 2 months ago

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                    It's Mayoor Moose... besides the moose?

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                    tommyfocus1 year, 2 months ago

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                    I agree with you, people are idiots and surprisingly cowards who hide behind keyboards and monitors. The things that people say on the web they will never say to some one face.

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                      protoham1 year, 2 months ago

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                      Maybe Al Gore's internet isn't so super after all.

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                        crespi1 year, 2 months ago

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                        Maybe it's nice not to have a rabid Conservative track one down and threaten one's family for expressing a question about their leadership...

                        God Bless the internet!

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                      TheVisionary1 year, 2 months ago

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                      One of the wost things we can do in trying to bridge gaps between people like republicans and democrats is resort to worthless name-calling and threats. It makes both sides look childish, breeds resentment, and results in false ideologies and divisions amongst Americans.

                      New Yorkers calling people from Kentucky "dumb rednecks" and people from Kentucky calling New Yorkers "elitist snobs." Then we don't see eye-to-eye on candidates because it becomes a war of "us against them."

                      Even the self assigned names, such as the liberals who refer to themselves as "progressives" is awfully presumptuous.

                      We need to all treat each other with a little civility. Party A is not 100% right and Party B is not 100% wrong. We must stop barking at each other and saying "You're an idiot because you believe that" and work to find common ground.

                      Unfortunately it's easier said than done, and the discussions on the web exemplify that.

                      Obama/Biden 08

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                        memestryker1 year, 2 months ago

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                        What if "God" is just a metaphor? What then?

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                        tschrnywolf1 year, 2 months ago

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                        YES, NO MATTER HOW CUTE AND FOLKSY PALIN TRIES TO SEEM, JOE BIDEN SPOKE WITH AUTHORITY AND FIRMNESS.

                        SARAH WINKED,WHAT DID SHE MEAN: FLIRTING? OR DOES SHE HAVE A NERVOUS TICK?

                        ANYWAY, WHAT ABOUT THE STOCK FALL TODAY? I TRUST OBAMA AND BIDEN MUCH MORE. SARAH'S "MR. SMITH COMES TO WASHINGTON" SOAP OPERA WILL FIX OUR ECONOMY. GOOD ACTING, BUT FAKE. NO SUBSTANCE IN PALIN'S UTOPIA.

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                          Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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                          Joe Biden spoke like he'd had too many martinis before the debate. He made a complete fool of himself as usual.

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                            Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                            The crowing of the rooster, making the sun rise.

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                              Bruedaddy1 year, 2 months ago

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                              you're an idiot. a blind , deaf and dumb one at that.

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                                Engnr1 year, 2 months ago

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                                I even heard him say 'he and BO were against Homosexual Marriage'.

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                                  Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                  So? He added that he didn't want civil authority to dictate to churches. They should decide for themselves how they define marriage. However, he is for equal civil rights for everybody. Is anything wrong with that?

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                                    Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                    I particularly like how he forced Palin to admit no difference existed between Obama and McCain on that. All marriages are civil unions. Churches decide if someone is "married" in their eyes or not.

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                                jordan111 year, 2 months ago

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                                I'd have read your comments if you hadn't yelled.

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                                hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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                                Well, we should stop sneering at the mutt people and begin to educate them. Otherwise we will continue to have emotional victims of religious and political hucksters messing up the country.

                                Revenge of the Mutt People

                                .... My point here is that we rural and small town mutt people by an early age seem to have a special capacity for cruelty, compared say, to damned near every other imaginable group of Americans. For instance, as a child did you ever put a firecracker up a toad's ass and light it? George Bush and I have that in common. Anyway, as all non-whites the world round understand, white people can be mean. Especially if they feel threatened -- and they feel threatened about everything these days...

                                ... About half of the Americans killed in Iraq come from communities like Winchester, Virginia or Romney, West Virginia or Fisher, Illinois or Kilgore, Texas or . . . . About 45 percent of the American dead in Iraq come from communities of less than 40,000, even though these towns make up only 25 percent of our population. These so-called volunteers are part of this nation's de facto draft -- economic conscription -- the carrot being politically preferable to the whip. The carrot does not have to be very big out here where delivering frozen food wholesale to restaurants out of your own car entirely on commission is considered a good self-employment opportunity...

                                ... So we will either see that Americans, religious or not, get educated equally so they won't be suckered by political and religious hucksters. If not, then we must accept that uneducated people interpret politics in an uninformed and emotional manner, and accept the consequences. America can no longer withstand the political naivete of this ignored white class. Middle class American liberals cannot have it both ways. It has come down to the simplest and most profound element of democracy: Fairness.

                                ... Lots of Americans don't seem to mind having a pack of young American pit bulls savage some flyblown desert nation, or running loose in the White House for that matter, as long as they are our pit bulls protecting Wall Street and the 401-Ks of the upper middle class.

                                The problem is this: pit bulls always escalate the fight and keep at it until the last dog is dead, leaving the gentler breeds to clean up the blood spilled. We mutt people, the pit bulls, have always been your own, whether you claim us or not. And until you accept that you are your brother's keeper, and help deliver us from ignorance, you will continue to have on your hands some of every drop of blood spilled . . . from the sands of Iraq to the streets of East L.A. All the socially responsible stock portfolios, little hybrid cars and post modernist deconstruction in the world will not wash it off.

                                http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/02/revenge-...

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                                  Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago

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                                  You left out Zionism again hyper.

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                                    GWHayduke1 year, 2 months ago

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                                    You left out anything relevant again endo.

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                                      hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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                                      Well endo, just for you.

                                      Palin's preacher: Jews control the economy, that's causing all the corruption

                                      A new video of Sarah Palin experiencing a laying of hands at her church in Wasilla shows Sarah Palin's preacher telling the congregation - with Palin present and about to join him on stage - how Christians need to take over control of the business world, especially banking, just like the Jews (Israelites) have done. He then goes on to say that the fact that non-Christians are running the banking industry is the cause of all of the recent scandals.

                                      http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/26/palins-p...

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                                      memestryker1 year, 2 months ago

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                                      Plenty of mutt people in the inner cities and burbs, too, Hyperbola. We need to stop hating ourselves and acting like a country full of Rodney Daingerfields, and start standing up for common values instead of extremist ones. We need to focus on breathing new life into the Constitution--all of it.

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                                      kickdrum11 year, 2 months ago

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                                      I'm so sick and tired of the racist double-standards practiced by blacks. They say if white people don't vote for Obama, that makes them racists. Well, by their own definition, if what they say is true, doesn't that make them racists for not supporting McCain? Also, most blacks have admitted the main reason they support Obama is because he's black. And they call us white people "racists"!? What's just as bad (if not worse) is the fact that most white Obama supporters also admit they support Obama because he's black. Is that "democracy"?? Not even close. It sounds more like brainwashing.

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                                        StevieGee1 year, 2 months ago

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                                        Obama's black??? OMG i'm like totally gonna have to find someone else to vote for now!

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                                          Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                          kickdrum1,

                                          Get your facts straight. You claim that blacks "say if white people don't vote for Obama, that makes them racists." I have heard/seen this claim made by people like you and DamnLiberals, but never directly from blacks. People, including me, do say that some whites don't vote for Obama because he is black, but you can't turn this statement around and claim that everybody is racist who doesn't vote for him. Causal relationships usually don't work both ways. Racism may cause not voting for him, but not voting for him doesn't necessarily imply racism.

                                          The reason why most blacks support Obama is not because he is black, but because he is a Democrat. Almost the same percentage supported Gore and Kerry even though they are white.

                                          You claim: "What's just as bad (if not worse) is the fact that most white Obama supporters also admit they support Obama because he's black." Now this is news to me, and I hope you have some facts to support this claim. Why would they do that?

                                          You ask: "Is that "democracy"?? " Yes, it is. Your claim about voting for him because he is black is untrue, but even if it were true, it would still be democracy. People have the right to choose as they please even if the reasons for their choice are wrong, as I'm sure you reserve that right to yourself. That's exactly what democracy is.

                                          Just in case you are wondering, I'm white.

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                                          Engnr1 year, 2 months ago

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                                          The ridiculous part is this. The President can only sign laws that come from congress. So
                                          BO and JB or JM and SP can make all the claims they want. They know they aren't going to happen. By time the lobbyist get involved the laws are going to be so full of pork and crap that only a President with a firm resolution to prevent that will prevail. This is JM statement, he will not put up with Pork and entitlements.

                                          We have enough stupid laws on the books as it is. Anybody who will veto more stupid laws is my candidate.

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                                            Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                            Engnr: "This is JM statement, he will not put up with Pork and entitlements."

                                            Did he vote against every bill that had Pork in it?

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                                              hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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                                              On the other hand, McCain has spent his entire career corruptly peddling political influence. How do you suppose McCain got to be worth $40 million while on a public salary (military, senate) his whole life?

                                              For McCain and Team, a Host of Ties to Gambling

                                              Mr. McCain portrays himself as a Washington maverick unswayed by special interests, referring recently to lobbyists as “birds of prey.” Yet in his current campaign, more than 40 fund-raisers and top advisers have lobbied or worked for an array of gambling interests — including tribal and Las Vegas casinos, lottery companies and online poker purveyors.

                                              ...Perhaps no episode burnished Mr. McCain’s image as a reformer more than his stewardship three years ago of the Congressional investigation into Jack Abramoff, the disgraced Republican Indian gambling lobbyist who became a national symbol of the pay-to-play culture in Washington. The senator’s leadership during the scandal set the stage for the most sweeping overhaul of lobbying laws since Watergate... interviews and records show that lobbyists and political operatives in Mr. McCain’s inner circle played a behind-the-scenes role in bringing Mr. Abramoff’s misdeeds to Mr. McCain’s attention — and then cashed in on the resulting investigation. The senator’s longtime chief political strategist, for example, was paid $100,000 over four months as a consultant to one tribe caught up in the inquiry, records show.

                                              ...As public opposition to tribal casinos has grown in recent years, Mr. McCain has distanced himself from Indian gambling, Congressional and American Indian officials said.

                                              But he has rarely wavered in his loyalty to Las Vegas, where he counts casino executives among his close friends and most prolific fund-raisers...

                                              http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/28/for-mcca...

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                                            Beau78901 year, 2 months ago

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                                            The author, Kathleen Parker, is a fairly well-known conservative syndicated columnist. The fact that she wasn't expecting such hatred from her readers--those who usually side with her during her rants against the left--tells me she's not very well-informed about the state of her party.

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                                              jordan111 year, 2 months ago

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                                              GMTA

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                                                Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                OK, lets be fair - BOTH the left and the right tend to lose their sh!t completely every four years, and the people are left divided and fighting over stupidity. It is part of the function of electoral politics to divide people and make winners and losers.

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                                                  Georgia501 year, 2 months ago

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                                                  Beau,

                                                  Really. Perhaps she never heard of Steve Brill and how viciously Clinton Democrats attacked him for daring to leave Hillary out of a book about how politicians came together after 9/11.

                                                  Poor fellow...couldn't find one single damn example of Hillary doing anything on behalf of her constituents or 9/11 victims/survirors. Hillary's staff provided him with lots of details of calls, letters, etc., that never happened.

                                                  Buy hey...that's the state of his party, right? Same as with this journalist.

                                                  Oh wait....my bad. 18 million Democrats voted for the wench who trashed Brill because he dared to tell the truth. Not quite like those anonymous emailers, eh, Beau?

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                                                    Beau78901 year, 2 months ago

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                                                    The point is that divisiveness and viciousness has been purposefully nurtured as part of an overall cynical Republican strategy since Reagan's days. Partisanship above all has been a mainstay of Republican strategists like Lee Atwater, Roger Ailes and Karl Rove for decades. And nasty, misleading rhetoric to polarize the electorate has been used publicly and in an official capacity by Republicans in office like Gingrich and Trent Lott--its momentum finally gave them back control of Congress in 1994.

                                                    Now the ugliness is being used against anyone speaking against the party line, even if they're friends of the Republicans and simply giving an honest opinion, like Kathleen Parker. And she, like you, didn't see it coming.

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                                                      jimdoze1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                      "divisiveness and viciousness has been purposefully nurtured as part of an overall cynical Republican strategy"
                                                      Sure thing, Beau. Where did the "two Americas" come from? Who is constantly stoking class envy?

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                                                        Beau78901 year, 2 months ago

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                                                        "Two Americas" came from 2004. (It's also an accurate description of what the above-mentioned divisiveness has done to the country.)

                                                        Republican attack dogs have been using nasty rhetoric since the early '80s. "Card-carrying member of the ACLU" is almost 20 years older than "two Americas."

                                                        Remember Trent Lott, Tom DeLay, Newt Gingrich? How about Fox News, brainchild of Roger Ailes?

                                                        Who has been calling anyone who disagrees with the Republican party unpatriotic and un-American for decades? And who's writing the e-mails Kathleen Parker's talking about in this article?

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                                                  jordan111 year, 2 months ago

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                                                  The lady has been given a unique look at the scum that follows the GOP around. She apparently hasn't been paying attention, which is surprising given her job. Oh well. She's paying attention now. The new face of the GOP is not pretty.

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                                                    Beau78901 year, 2 months ago

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                                                    "The new face of the GOP" ...looks a little like a pig wearing lipstick.

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                                                    tschrnywolf1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                    MEET A FRESH FACE: THE NEW ERICA JONGS OF POLITICS, AKA. SARAH PALIN :) WEARS DIFFERENT MASKS DEPENDING,...A NEW FEMALE RONALD REAGAN? SO IT SEEMS.

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                                                    dunkirk1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                    What it shows is how out of touch with the reality of things the right wing really is.

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                                                      Beau78901 year, 2 months ago

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                                                      Well, it shows that they don't see how destructive their strategy of divisiveness and partisanship has been--not only to American values, but to basic human decency.

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                                                      ameliog1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                      Do columnists, pundits, public figures, and such receive a similar level of response from the left, or is the right's anger more violently or venomously expressed?

                                                      More and more people are noting that we've taken political disagreement to an absurd realm. Who's running this asylum?

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                                                        CRYMTYPHON1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                        I am!

                                                                                                     
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                                                             Ignore that idiot Crymtyphon.
                                                             C'est moi, that runs le asylum!

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                                                          CRYMTYPHON1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                          Ignore that idiot fake 'frenchman'.
                                                          I and I alone run this asylum.

                                                          And I agree that political disagreement has been taken to an absurd realm.

                                                          But some of us belong there.

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                                                        not2needy1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                        Nothing worse than a nasty mean spirited conservative who denies that there's anything wrong with another con!

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                                                        Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                        Been there, done that. You should see some of the e-mail I get!!

                                                        People just don't "get" it.

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                                                          Beau78901 year, 2 months ago

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                                                          Sure, but you haven't been defending neocons for the full term of Bush's tenure as Kathleen Parker has. She just hasn't been paying attention to the effects of her idols' rhetoric.

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                                                            Engnr1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                            Well as BO expands the war into Pakistan and Afghanistan I am sure he will bring back the DRAFT. That will be so much fun. Get ready to serve or be served!

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                                                              crespi1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                              Engnr-

                                                              We are already AT war in Afghanistan, remember?

                                                              And we LOST it...

                                                              Thanks to the Republican "Commander-In-Chief."

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                                                                Beau78901 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                Wow, Engnr.

                                                                That's about as off-topic as any of Palin's replies to last night's debate questions.

                                                                By the way--though no one likes the draft, and Obama has NEVER supported it, bringing it back is a great idea. Its political unpopularity keeps the government from rushing into wars.

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                                                              not2needy1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                              I know Bkumm. I don't get as much as i used to though.. Enough is enough and i reported the people who were doing it.. They're gone!

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                                                                Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                Well, I don't get them here as much anymore, but some people have gotten my "real" e-mail address. It's been...interesting.

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                                                                Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                Bkumm: "You should see some of the e-mail I get!!"

                                                                Just out of curiosity: Do you get them from the full political spectrum, or mostly from one side?

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                                                                  Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                  I get it from all sides. You see, I support choice and individual rights so sometimes I take positions that people that normally agree with me don't like.

                                                                  For instance, I do not support gun control the way that many people see it. I think there should be registration and training, but once that occurs people should be able to own a hand gun and a long gun at the very least. But, I want the government to do the registration and the training. It endears me not to either side.

                                                                  It's kind of tiring being THAT guy, you know? But, hey, it's what I do.

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                                                                    crespi1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                    Interesting position...

                                                                    Hey, what's your personal e-mail, anyway?

                                                                    (Just kidding...)

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                                                                      Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                      LOL>>>

                                                                      crazyloserguy@worthlessinternet.com

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                                                                      Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                      Thanks. I was just wondering whether all sides are equally vicious. Here on Propeller, I see an imbalance.

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                                                                        Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                        I will say that many of the left do not attack ruthlessly without some kind of point. Most of the mail I get from the right includes attacks on me or my family personally and have little to do with the point I'm trying to make.

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                                                                          Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                          That's what I've observed here too.

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                                                                  hlgrice1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                  IF YOU WROTE SOMETHING BAD ABOUT SARAH PALIN....THEN AN EMAIL THREAT WAS PROBABLY JUSTIFIED. SHE WILL BE THE NEXT VP AND SHE DESERVES TO BE HONORED WITH DIGNITY LIKE ALL AMERICANS.

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                                                                    not2needy1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                    EGAD! You earn respect, you don't get it just because. Especially when you're in her position. She can't even tell Katie Couric what magazines she has read, all she can say is "all of them", like that's a real answer! At least she could have said Newsweek, Time or Better Homes and Gardens.. she couldn't think of the name of ONE single magazine!

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                                                                      coymoy1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                      And avoids the next question ... what article ... what page ... what line ..... I don't mean to belabor the point but do you or don't you know the line it was on. Give me a break ... it was edited in a deliberate way. Obama has stammered so much he sounded drunk and Biden has shoved his foot in his mouth so much he need new dentures. Neither have been interrogated like Sarah.

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                                                                        Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                        Obama was on the O'Reilly Factor.

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                                                                          Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                          Oh, come on. I am sure you could name at least one newspaper or periodical which you regularly read - I know I could. The fact that Palin could not makes her look absolutely imbecilic.

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                                                                          Engnr1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                          Do you read magazines? I don't.

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                                                                          Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                          "SHE DESERVES TO BE HONORED WITH DIGNITY LIKE ALL AMERICANS."

                                                                          Isn't Kathleen Harris an American as well? Therefore, doesn't she deserve to be honored with dignity?

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                                                                            Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                            Did you mean Kathleen Harris or Kathleen Parker? I think all human beings deserve to be honored with dignity, but you may have mixed up the names.

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                                                                              Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                              Whoops, sorry. You're right. Kathleen Parker. Oh well. Don't know why I thought of Harris. Probably due to something I was reading somewhere else at the time.

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                                                                                RickyDawkins1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Harris

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                                                                                  Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                  Yeah, I know.

                                                                                  Strangely enough, I argued with mesodude a few months back on whether Harris deserved to be treated with a certain level of dignity, and I was on the side of dignity. Maybe I was thinking of that.

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                                                                              Peleus99991 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                              hlgrice,

                                                                              Read the First Amendment on your way out of this country.

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                                                                              tschrnywolf1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                              WHERE IS PALIN FROM...HELL OR VENEZUELA?

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                                                                                Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                hlgrice: "IF YOU WROTE SOMETHING BAD ABOUT SARAH PALIN....THEN AN EMAIL THREAT WAS PROBABLY JUSTIFIED."

                                                                                Let me understand this: Are you saying that the proper response to a negative statement about someone is a threat?

                                                                                BTW, if you had read the article, you would know that she didn't write anything "bad" about her. She respectfully suggested that she may be out of her league and should resign in the interest of her party and her nation.

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                                                                                jordan111 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                Let me guess; you're one of the people who sent her tacky emails, right?

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                                                                                  demillicent1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                  The republican reporters seem to be a mean spirited bunch. The quickly accuse one of being a traitor for disagreeing with them on any republican candidate that they support. We live in a democracy!! We are allowed to disagree with our own party, the other guys party, and each other without resorting to violence. The neocons are the first to point out how liberal the dems are.

                                                                                  Liberals live, and let live. I think that liberals expect the arch conservatives to disagree with them on most issues and they have learned to take it in stride. It would be a good idea for neocons to do the same. Stop trying to be thought police!!
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                                                                                    Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                    Liberals can be pretty my way or the highway as well. The fact is, neither party is all that keen on adding other parties to the system... which is something we desperately need to get more perspectives on things in as diverse a country as ours.

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                                                                                    memestryker1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                    The extreme right and the extreme left are equally ugly and we've seen it in leftist rebels or dictators and right-leaning theocracies in perhaps its purist form. Both are blood-thirsty power mongers who believe they are right. Both stop at nothing to seize power. Both intimidate and bully.

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                                                                                    miklkit1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                    I just watched the debate. Palin lied many times when delivering standard republicon talking points. She also talked a lot about what a big energy producing entity Alaska is. Not once did she mention that none of Alaska's oil has ever come to the lower 48.

                                                                                    Joe Biden was knowledgeable and passionate. He was always factually correct and even choked up once. It was like watching a real man with real passion trying to talk to a member of the local high school debating team.

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                                                                                      Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                      I think Biden won the debate when he talked about his wife and choked up a bit.

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                                                                                      Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                      miklkit,

                                                                                      Yes, Biden was great. Sarah Palin was better than I had expected, but I felt throughout that someone should teach her the difference between a political speech and a debate. In a political speech, she can say anything she wants, but in a debate, there is an expectation of given and take and that she would answer questions. At one point, she came close to saying: I don't like your question and I'm not going to answer it, and went on to talk about her pet topic: energy.

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                                                                                        riverdog1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                        Alaska's oil has never come to the lower 48? I heard that before, but a friend started working at the refinery in Bellingham 6 months ago and he told me it all comes here.

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                                                                                          PainGoddess1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                          I was under the impression that the oil went to Japan. The oil company that runs it all is owned by the native Alaskans, Athabascans etc. They can sell to whomever they like.

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                                                                                        rmiami2251 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                        ON THE DEBATE ....I'm 53 and I've never had a woman try to blow so much smoke up my ass .... I guess some people like that crap, I felt like I should have been throwing dollars on the stage! Wink at me baby!

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                                                                                          Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                          Hey libs take your left hand and make a sign with your thumb and first finger like this L now hold it to your forehead. Losers!!!! ROTFLMAO

                                                                                          Sarah kicked the crab out of Joe..........are you depressed yet?

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                                                                                            Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                            Wolfie2007: "are you depressed yet?"

                                                                                            There is no reason. Watch the polls during the next few days. She's energized her base, but that's about it.

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                                                                                              Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                              You are like the rooster who believes his crowing in the morning makes the sun rise.

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                                                                                                Om1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                Virtually, the minds have been made up by now. People see what they want to see. The election will happen on time,but it is basically over by now. The rest is nothing but partisan dog and pony shows. The wasted attack money is the killer.

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                                                                                                  chuck-the-canuck1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                  Not as depressed as you are going to be after the election.

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                                                                                                  Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                  That was sexist. Really, the only redeeming fact was she did indeed wink. But the part about throwing dollars on the stage sort of blows that only justification out of the water.

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                                                                                                    bluetexasvalley1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                    Between the winks and the "Ya betchas" -- not to mention "Can I call you Joe?" -- there was nothing presidential in her demeanor.

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                                                                                                      Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                      No, but she didn't seem like a stripper to me either. Just someone profoundly out of her depth. Or that's what I interpreted the dollar bill remark to be pertaining too.

                                                                                                      BTW, CBS polls, CNN polls and a few focus groups are all giving the debate to Biden; some by healthy margins.

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                                                                                                        crespi1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                        Mdiar-

                                                                                                        The right has tried to feature her "milf-ness' so she sort of has that coming...

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                                                                                                        Lincoln851 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                        Good thing you were not around to vote for Abraham Lincoln. You probably would have really hated him!

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                                                                                                          Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                          I really don't mind folksy things like that when they don't sound forced. She sounded forced. If I minded that sort of thing, I'd not live in the Ozarks and I'd not use them myself.

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                                                                                                          memestryker1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                          My northern relatives all say "ya betcha" as part of their normal speech and are very informal in official settings. I think she was very nervous. I certainly would have been.

                                                                                                          Obama has now had months of preparation and she's just getting started. I have to say I thought that, with her situation, she did a good job. She's a relative newbie and I thought that, given the experience of her opponent, she did very well.

                                                                                                          Think about Obama back in February or March. She's quick.

                                                                                                          But I think Obama had the edge of learning time, and he doesn't have the albatross of being from the same party as Bush. Unless he falls on his face, I expect him to do a Jimmy Carter.

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                                                                                                        Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                        OK, two liars on stage grinfscking you, me and each other, and the party faithful cheering for one or the other, backing their home teams in this qaint and particularly American sport of political prevarication. Who won? We didn't. Guarantee it. Whichever team of liars takes the White House, working Americans will be the losers.

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                                                                                                        Justice4All1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                        I'm not surprised at the threats. When people have something to say they usually say it. When facts and logic are against them they respond with insults and threats.

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                                                                                                          Jimjn21 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                          Hey, you write trash you can expect trash.

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                                                                                                            RKO1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                            Does anyone have the receipe for Aunt Sara's moose stew?

                                                                                                            Yum!!

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                                                                                                              RedstateLib1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                              Supporters on the left and the right are both guilty of this behavior. I remember prominant Obama supporters threatening riots in the streets if the SD's gave Hillary the nomination instead of giving it to Obama. Threats of violence worked in that case from the left and have set the SOP for the future. We no longer have a Democratic Party we have the Party where whoever uses the best threats and intimidation tactics wins. That is the future of the party and I wash my hands of it. Never again will they get my money, my time or my vote. I do not support thugs whether they have an R or a D beside their name.

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                                                                                                              mompro1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                              I don't think she's getting any worse media than any other politician. They all have to live with it. Scrutiny is the name of the game. Mean at times, but it's life. She throws it at the media and complains about it, but the microscope has been around a long time. You can't throw it out because someone doesn't like it.

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                                                                                                                saurabharya1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                                well the people who have thretened the writer seems like supporter of Palin who are as ignorant as respected alaska governer

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                                                                                                                  Whitmo1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                                  I read this column with great interest, because I too have been attacked for my opinions. I try very hard to be polite and express my opinion without attacks and vulgarity. I don't understand the hostility. I am as entitled to my opinion as you are, but let's do it with some semblance of respect.
                                                                                                                  I am a middle aged woman who has supported Barack Obama for a long time. It has absolutely nothing to do with his race. I always vote for whomever I feel will best represent me and do the best job, no matter the party. I have watched all of the debates, including the primary debates, so I don't go into this uninformed. I, as a woman, am embarrassed by Sarah Palin. I think she is giving women a bad name. With soooo many competant women out there, how can McCain justify picking her? I don't care if you think she has been asked "gotcha" questions. She needs to be able to deal with it or tell the interviewer that she doesn't think that's a fair question. But, no, she tries to answer with the republican talking points and looks foolish. In the debate last night, she only answered 3 questions asked. The rest of the time she used talking points. At least we now know that she can string 2 sentences together and not sound like an idiot, even if they are memorized talking points. In conclusion, PLEASE try to express yourself without personal attacks or threats. Thank you.

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                                                                                                                    StevieGee1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                                    Here is a woman who has made a living out of pandering to neocon scumbags. Now she suddenly decides to crap on their nice new golden girl and can't figure out why they act like neocon scumbags??

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                                                                                                                      vava-boom161 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                                      Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air! Biden has image of the
                                                                                                                      "old boys" in Washington.

                                                                                                                      If I were to ask my 10-yr. old grandaughter, who she's going to pick as President of America, (not knowing any one of them),
                                                                                                                      she'd ask me, which one believes in God's commandments? She'd mean, one who would not kill (ie, babies, hating Americans), or one who does not covet or steal (ie, greed, corruption), etc.

                                                                                                                      NO BRAINER! I would know who to recommend!

                                                                                                                      MCCAIN/PALIN 2008!

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                                                                                                                        benighse1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                                        The VP Debate: FLUFF vs. STUFF -- Let's put Obama and Biden to work for all America!

                                                                                                                        WHY??

                                                                                                                        Palin: "I have been at this for 5 weeks now."

                                                                                                                        Biden: "I have been at this for 35 years now."

                                                                                                                        Biden's winning points were on substance, reason, experience and being knowledgeble and correct on the issues.

                                                                                                                        Palin's winning point was on re-gurgitation without knowledge and trying to seem nice and cutesy without answering the questions actually asked.

                                                                                                                        Biden's losing points were not taking her to task on the factual errors, and her avoidance of the nuclear issue, not answering the actual questions asked, letting her go to false energy claims as a substitute for real answers on everything else.

                                                                                                                        Palin's losing points were believing that the truth doesn't matter, that McCain's real record doesn't matter, and that winking as a substitute for substance should win out over what is right for the middle class of America on the issues.

                                                                                                                        It was fun to watch for one night. But I want a vice-president I'll feel comfortable with is right on the issues--that is Joe Biden.

                                                                                                                        So I'm convinced OBAMA and BIDEN need to win this election. So let's get to work and make it happen America!

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                                                                                                                          Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                                          Palin's most irritating gaffe-

                                                                                                                          She constantly mispronounces "nuclear" as "nucular," same as our current muttonhead-in-chief. Pathetic.

                                                                                                                          New rule. If you can't at least SAY "nuclear," you don't qualify for a position in which you can GO nuclear.

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                                                                                                                            chuck-the-canuck1 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                                            How about "though", "also"?

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                                                                                                                          abi21 year, 2 months ago

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                                                                                                                          Both candidates supporters say stupid things. I've been called a racist because I won't vote for Obama. Rush Limbaugh was falsely called a racist by Obama in one of his ads
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