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SlvrQ11 year, 2 months ago
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I agree with you about walking in a black neighborhood after dark.
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The racism does go both ways and it seems to me that when a black person makes comments that are racist, they don't seem to get nearly as much backlash as when a white person makes a comment that is racist.-
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gtiprod1 year, 2 months ago
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What does that to do with what this teacher wrote on a blackboard. It sounds to me you condone what this teacher wrote.. The sad thing is this teacher teaches history and still doesn't have a clue about American history. I think his credibility is totally shot.
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Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago
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Tell ya what. Let the African-Americans do to the whites what the whites did to African-Americans - let 25 million white people die either in slavery or in the holds of slave ships. Let them follow that by making white folk the last-hired, first-fired for a century or more, and confining white folk to ghettos. And lynching those white folk who looked sideways at a black woman or otherwise got "uppity."
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Then lets see who is more p!issed off at whom.-
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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exactly.
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of course there are racist people in every group. but when it comes to white people in america, the racism isn't just individualized, its institutionalized. we're talking business loans, job opportunities, etc.
education and experience being equal, a white man with an arrest record still has a better chance of being hired on wall street than a black man with a clean record. -
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AZHLFCG1 year, 2 months ago
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Do you know what is he worst thing a white person can say to a afroe american WELL IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT YOU ARE NOW ON YOUR OWN. THAT WOULD STRICK FEAR THRU THEIR WHOLE BODY.WE WHITES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WOULD SUCK IT UP AND KEEP ON BUILDING AMERICA INTO THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD. EACH YEAR WE WOULD HOLD A DAY IN THANKS THAT OUR FORE FATHERS HAD TO INDURE DEATH AND HARD SHIPS SO THAT TODAY WE COULD BE BORN AMERICAN AND ENJOY THE BENIFITS WE ENJOY TODAY. WE WOULD NOT SPENT OUR TIME TRYING TO SUCK MONEY FROM THE SINS OF PEOPLE LONG DEAD
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Blackacereturn1 year, 2 months ago
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This is the stupidity that perpetuate racism...it's more than likely that this history teacher made such a fools statement. AZHLFCG - your forefathers like my forefathers had a hand in making this country what it is, my fathers may not have written the history books so his accomplishments were left out.
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But my fathers worked on your fathers plantations for free for hundreds of years, all the while growing the worlds cash crops, my fathers fought alongside your fathers in all of the important wars of this nation and died while doing so. Your fathers however neglect to mention those little tidbits in his history books.
In our current wars my children's and grand children's fathers are fighting alongside your fathers and mothers and daughters ans sons, they are and have been putting their worth on the line for this nation for as long as your fathers have. But yet you choose the bigoted way to go...this is as much my country as it is yours or anyone else the sooner we learn that the better off we will all be. Welfare is another thing...African American pay taxes and we get back a fraction of what we pay...the way I see it those blacks on welfare i pay for them not you but you find a way to take credit for everything the black Americans have ever done. We had and have a Hugh hand it this country being what it is today and in the future.
Look this thing is way too big to deal with in little snapshots...i just wanted to let you know that my fathers had a hand in this too!
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itsjustme19551 year, 2 months ago
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I hate to inform you, but evrything you stated is not only racist, it is incorrect, it was a blackman that sold the first slave. Study the history before you try to place blame and as for this whitie, I have never owned a slave and I'll bet you have never been one either.......
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Blackacereturn1 year, 2 months ago
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itsjustme1955 - If so it was a white man that bought the first slave, nothing you say make any sense.. Blacks were enslaved by whites and it was not right (IT WAS WRONG), not matter how you twist it to make yourself feel better, no matter who still have slaves or who sold whom or what. If those African slave owners you speak of were enslaving whites would you be so cavalier about it?
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And to address slavery in Africa It must be said and understood, it's the same as a job here, the slaves in Africa are in some way beholding to the person that enslaves them, unlike the slaves brought here. Slavery in Africa by enlarge were what we call indentured servitude... you owe someone and you labor for free for a period of time to pay it off...upon completion of such, you are free to go unlike slaves in the US!
The problem here is we have the bigots like this teacher imparting false knowledge to the likes of you and yours!
Most of your comments on slavery is revisionist and not factual in the least bit!
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jsant1531 year, 2 months ago
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If you really did walk through a black neighborhood at night you would know that crime is not limited to whites or any one race in perticular. Anyone can be a victim of a crime in those neighborhoods... If you want to talk about real racism get in a car with 2 black guys driving around a nice suburb almost anywhere in this country and see if you dont get nasty looks or messed with by the police....
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As for the article i thought it was actually kind of funny and there isnt enough information to determine wether it was straight up racism. It wasnt appropriate for a classroom but i dont think it was automatically racist... -
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siobhan20081 year, 2 months ago
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Racism definitely does NOT go both ways. You can only be racist if you're a part of the group who originally oppressed the other group. On the part of Black folks, it's purely mistrust of Whites that's completely understandable and warranted.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 2 months ago
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so you believe only the group with the power can be racist? you buy into that eh?
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a ridiculous notion
it's so ridiculous, I can hardly think of an effective approach to show you WHY its ridiculous.
let's try this approac:h:
you are familiar with the Rwanda genocide, I assume
two groups, one had the favored status and power transfered to them by 'whites'
the second group, the darker skinned Africans, decided to change that
was what the second group did racist, when the slaughtered the first and seized power, committed genocide according to the color of their skin?
racism:
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
you can redefine racism if you like, but here's how Websters defines it
Racism is a belief
anybody can believe any damn thing, regardless of their station in society
and using your definition instead of Websters', in nearly any situation the power and relationship can shift
remember Colin Ferguson? [I think that was his name] The 'black rage' subway spree killer?
He adjusted that power paradigm with a gun, would you call what he did NOT 'racist' at least in method, and disagree with his own defense? He said he specifically targeted whites.
anybody can be racist, of course those with the power in a society can be more effective at exercising their racism and putting it in practice, if that's your point
if it isn't, you have no point
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by the way, saying Jews are good with money and black people like watermelon is a generalization.
Many are and many do
Al Campanis made a generalization that black people aren't as good as whites at swimming
many aren't
they still were gonna fire his ass
a generalization using race, 9 out of 10 times, IS a racist statement
[saying white people need to use more sunscreen, for instance, would not be considered racist]-
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blowback1 year, 2 months ago
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No Way Man said it succinctly
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in a comment above.
"...racism isn't just
individualized, its
institutionalized."
I would however go one step
further.
Individualized racism is
the manifestation of
institutionalized racism
which gives it presumed validity
and provides it a fully
supportive framework and
infrastructure.
At the heart of both
is power and control.-
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 2 months ago
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I'll remember that the next time I spit in a white cops sandwich while working at MacDonalds because I hate whites, especially white cops.
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It's not racist because the cop has the power, a whole history of whitehood PLUS governement backing. It's not racist, just gross, because I'm a powerless minimum wage worker.
You have to stop at saying the institutionalizing of racism and creation of an imbalance of social equity disadvantaging one group of people greatly foments and spreads racism, which I believe myself, and leave it at that
to say that one group of people can't be racist, is racist in itself and illogical, as I have shown-
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blowback1 year, 2 months ago
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I haven't said that. You've made that assumption.
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Your petty preoccupation with semantics rather than the political realities is an unnecessary distraction.
Yes, spitting in a sandwich is racist. It is a racist consequence of racism.
A little like blowback.-
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 2 months ago
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well man, are you then asserting that if racism doesn't become a social institution it never exists?
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I'm sure you know that's ridiculous
there's this thing called xenophobia-it does not start from without because power is lent to one group or another, but from within.
It starts from within, from childish fear of other, and THEN becomes institutionalized in social strata
you may call me petty, if you wish, but it is you who do not understand.
you do not understand the psychological underpinning of racism, which comes from within, becomes a self-propagating phenomena thru social support and re-enforcement
otherwise, would there be people that, also from within, reject what thier society tells them?
wouldn't we all still have slaves? afterall it was the social norm.
your argument that racism only comes from socially instituted re-enforcement, even on an individual basis, stands on its head:
chicken and egg.
where then does racism begin, if not with the individual? where did it begin to START a social structure of power imbalance to make individual blowback?
if not with individuals who let fear get the best of them.
you may call me petty, but I call you a highly intelligent individual
I'm confident it'll come to you, if you let go of your ideologic stance that is
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as for my assumption, if you look back, you'll see that you were taking up anothers argument that was saying EXACTLY that, that only the group with the power can be racist
I'll admit I was writing for others benefit as well as yours
it is not a semantic issue BTW, but a logic one
think chicken and egg
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 2 months ago
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I'm sorry I should have studied what you wrote more closely, instead of writing all that, for here is where you go astray:
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''I would however go one step
further.
Individualized racism is
the manifestation of
institutionalized racism''
you got that backwards: individual racism creates institutionalized racism FIRST, then the vicious cycle. then institutionalized racism can manifest individual racism
but to say individual racism is only attached to power and ONLY exists as a result of iinstitutionalized racism is putting the cart before the horse.
of necessity, individual racism MUST be able to exist apart from institutionalized racism, for individuals must be the ones who begin the institution
ok I'm done. thank you for the mental exercise and fare you well
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chdistel1 year, 2 months ago
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I agree that are more racist in the black community then any other. I had a friend the other, over heard some blacks talking how they where going to take this Country and teach the 'white trash' a lesson once Obama gets in.
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Why aren't we trying to work together? We all were Created in The Image of God.-
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Navtr11 year, 2 months ago
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How riduculous and obtuse can you be? Even if your friend did "overhear some blacks talking" does that mean their comments/views extend beyond them to all (or even the majority) of black people?
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Additionally, exactly how is a possible Obama presidency supposed to enable them to "take this country and teach the 'white trash' a lesson"?
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Peleus99991 year, 2 months ago
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STOP. All of you.
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Racism DOES exist on both sides, that's true. But the point of this article is being ignored entirely, and for the sake of intellectual honesty you'd best acknowledge it. An educator used a racial epithet in a classroom. That is the article's point. If your response to that is to evade it and say, "Well... er... black people are racist too" then you are failing to address the point here. And I'm sick of the evasions. What this teacher did was wrong, and he should be fired. End of story. -
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HEY1 year, 2 months ago
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How many White americans were enslaved, lynched, experienced Jim crow, and segregation? African americans experienced thiswhite "discrimination" for hundreds of years, and we still fight against it. White people haven't experienced any degree of discrimination that was government sanctioned of that magnitude so quit it. Also most Black people won't walk down a street in a "black neighborhood" by themselves either because we know that a bullet knows no color.
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IceRef1 year, 2 months ago
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Yeah, but who out of you WANTS to walk in a black neighborhood after dark. Unless your buying drugs or something. My point being, you try to use this reverse discrimination argument, but it doesn't hold water. Like it's now the poor opressed white people. Who still can't get jobs and are treated like second class citizens? It's still black people. If they come at you harsh, Hey, they're angry. And yes, still have some right to be. After all these years they still get looked upon as all bad. You only treat the athletes and movie stars, etc, with any small bit of respect.
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