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Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 1 month ago in Political NewsThough she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret. Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as "not like us" is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American.
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Will13131 year, 1 month ago
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Well no he's not like me.. but then again.. I'm probably not qualified to be president.. so that's a good thing...
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and he's not like Palin.. because he hasn't gotten in the the cesspool and swam with HER..
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 1 month ago
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The Republicans are losing the American people with their lousy understanding of the economic situation that now grips our nation, they're probably not getting in the donations they need to do a fair and balanced fight against Obama (hence the reason they're leaving Michigan; I see more states they'll be leaving soon), and they're falling even further behind in the polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
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Is it any wonder that the McCain campaign, thru Ms Palin, is starting this smear?
What's their slogan? "Country First" Ha..."Winning first" is more like it...-
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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The one swimming in the cesspool is Obama.
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Friends with Rezco when he was in Chicago before going to Harvard.
After Harvard he hired into the firm that Rezco used.
Mysteriously all opposition running against Obama in his first election were declared ineligible by not having enough signatures. Something anyone running makes sure they have an excess of.
Kickoff fund raiser at Bill Ayres house.
Served with Ayres on several boards one of which went missing $110 million.
Went to Ayres house on multiple occasions after his feelings that he only wished he had set off more bombs was shown on TV and in the newspapers there.
Fought against the bipartisan effort to stop Chicago corruption.
Voted against born alive babies from botched abortions being kept alive. Just toss them in the garbage alive.
Went to a church and had the pastor as a friend and mentor that is very anti America and racist.
Got a sweetheart deal on his house brokered by Rezco.
Wrote letters to government officials for Rezco.
Voted present almost 130 times.
Stood silent in the senate when the Republicans tried to get better oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.
You are known by the company you keep and your actions. Looks like a cesspool to me. When I was young the farm I lived on had one so I know first hand what a cesspool is. He has that odor.-
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Anyone can make false statement without proof but it's called slander. If you have proof of this then present it. If it's from some neo-con site like Limbaugh or Coulter then don't bother because it's a lie.
You chose to believe some rumors from an undetermined source but you refuse to believe that Bush lied to the American people.
Obama voted present? At least he was there. McCain doesn't even bother to show up unless he can get in front of a camera. ROFLMAO-
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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Voting present may be the most honorable thing to do when a bill contains a lot of different provisions, some good, some bad, for example when a bill providing funding for the troops contains a lot of "pork," or when a bill regulating banks contains insufficient enforcement mechanisms. It's a balancing act to decide whether the good outweighs the bad, and sometimes they are equal.
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Rumours????
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These are all well documented things. Which ones are you challenging?
Rezco tried to hire him before he went to Harvard.
When it was posted about his opposition being disqualified a while back the only thing liberals could say was it was his oppositions fault for not getting more signatures.
Some are trying to say that it was not a fund raiser at Ayres house. Is that it. It was just a party? Big difference.
On and on.
Then you accuse Bush of lying. Prove it. First there was the accusations that it was about WMDs. Lately it has changed to a few words about nuclear material possibly being bought. You liberals found the one was a lie so you keep the same charge and go to a different accusation of a lie. That one is just as false. Have to keep saying he lied. I bet you don't even know who made the first accusation to begin with that you liberals picked up that mantra from. The first person lies and everybody swears to it. Pathetic.
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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Endo,
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Don't forget his top economic advisor, Franklin Raines who managed to rake in 90 million from the Fannie and Freddie deal...
It seems no liberal will address these accusations...They're more concerned about getting someone with a pulse into power with absolutely no experience, no resume to speak of, only because he's ANYBODY but Bush....
The clowns who are voting for him don't even know what "Change" he speaks of....They can't see past their seething hate for Bush to recognize an imbecile like Obama when they see one....
So instead, the want to put this country in chaos by voting for someone like Osama...
I don't get it...Hek, even Biden believed that Osama wasn't ready for prime-time and insisted that he would run as McCain's VP if asked....
What does that tell the libs when even their own VP thinks Osama is worthless and McCain makes more sense?
And when has Obama or Biden ever stood up to ANYBODY within their own party regarding corruption ? We've got Dodd, Johnson, Raines, Franks, Paulson that need to go because of their greed and corruption....Who do you think is going to do that ? Osama ? LMAO !!!
Pluh-Eaze !! He's part of the problem....
McCain and Palin both have records of standing up to the theivery that goes on in DC and in their own states...And they're not afraid to take on their own....
Obama and Biden are going to be 4 more years of Bush........more than you think and certainly moreso than McCain and Palin are....
Bush spent like crazy and Osama's spending proposal is close to a trillion....But...wait a minute..I thought you libs were tired of all the governmental spending? A trillion dollars ? On what ? And do you REALLY think he's going to be able to get all the money he needs from ONLY taxing the rich ? Do ya ?
You guys are really as dumb as you look......
Look beyond the fluff and rock star status and you will find an empty shell.....Someone who so deadset on obtaining power that he'll lie to achieve it...
And so many of you libs have had the wool pulled over your eyes with this clown, but again, don't care because you want "anybody but Bush"
Careful for what you wish for.....Cuba wanted "Change" too and they ended up with Castro....
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NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago
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more bullsh*t from FSU.
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Franklin Raines is not and has never been an adviser in any way, shape or form for the Obama campaign.
That ridiculous accusation has already been debunked.
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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"And since you don't even know that simple fact, why would anyone read the rest of your nonsense?"
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I guess you should read the rest of my nonsense....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...-
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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The Washington Post made a comment that was taken out of context. Fact-checker has disputed the Post's article and McCain's attempt to to tie him with Obama.
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"The McCain campaign is clearly exaggerating wildly in attempting to depict Franklin Raines as a close adviser to Obama on "housing and mortgage policy." If we are to believe Raines, he did have a couple of telephone conversations with someone in the Obama campaign. But that hardly makes him an adviser to the candidate himself -- and certainly not in the way depicted in the McCain video release."
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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Like I said, lfergie....
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It's funny how they stories are being recanted and with the Freddie and Fannie crap happening right now, I'm sure they are scrambling to cover up their tracks....
There has already been subpoena's and an investigation pending, so we'll see how squeaky clean your candidate is and his TRUE relationship he had with Raines....
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MORTGAGE_GI...
These things take time to come out and I'm sure they will
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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Yes, I do actually believe Raines is a liar....
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You're absolutely right on that one, lfergie....
And I don't listen to Rush....I'm more of a laura Ingraham and Glenn Beck fan...
What do you listen to ?
Karl Marx's greatest hits ?
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Ah Glenn Beck. That explains a lot. He's a bigger fruit cake than Rush Limabugh.
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Karl Mark's? No he's not my bag but I'm sure he is a favorite of Karl Rove, George Bush, Cheney, and yes, even McCain.
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Typical of the left. Always call anything that someone on the right says is a lie. According to you people anything said by the left on the radio is hate speech and lies. Rush is rated by an independent organization that gives him a rating of 97% in getting the facts correct. But he and all of them lie. The people on the right have ethics that are to be truth tellers but you call them liars
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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Well you obviously missed the boat, any poll that gives any politician a 97% approval rating is out to lunch.
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What is so hard for you to understand that comment.
And when it comes to shrub, it will never happen.
Now it seems to me that English must be your third language.
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NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago
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yeah numbnuts. thats the story that was debunked by the Washington Post's fact checker. and factcheck.org backed it up.
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Michael Dobbs, the WP fact checker, wrote:
"I asked Huslin to provide the exact circumstances of that passage. She said she was chatting with Raines during the photo shoot, and asked 'if he was engaged at all with the Democrats' quest for the White House. He said that he had gotten a couple of calls from the Obama campaign. I asked him about what, and he said, Oh, general housing, economy issues.'"
But that conversation is "pretty flimsy" evidence, Mr. Dobbs said.
>>>>>> "The McCain campaign is clearly exaggerating wildly in attempting to depict Franklin Raines as a close adviser to Obama."
Howard Kurtz, the Post's media writer, said: "(Raines) has never been a close adviser to Obama."
for their lies, the McCain campaign was awarded two pinnochios by the Wash Post.
like I said.
Nonsense.
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sinophil491 year, 1 month ago
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FSU - Bill Clinton already proved that the government income and the country's economy improves when you tax the rich more. In his Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, Clinton increased the tax on the top 1.2% of income earners. He lowered the tax on the middle class. He increased the earned incme credit on the poor. He gave 90% of small businesses tax credits.
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What happened is historic.
The tax revenues increased. The budget deficit disappeared. The last 4 budgets passed by Clinton from 1997-2000 brought ever increasing surpluses and the national debt actually decreased.
The reason is that giving money to the rich and the corporations DOES NOT GENERATE JOBS. The rich simply put the money away in investments. The corporatons simply increase their profit and distribute larger dividends to the stockholders.
The middle class and the poor tend to spend more of their discretionary income. So when they have more money, they buy more goods. IT IS INCREASED PURCHASING AND INCREASED ORDERS THAT STIMULATE FACTORIES TO PRODUCE MORE AND THEN INCREASES JOBS.
Supply side economics, Trickle-down economics, voodoo economics, robbing the poor to pay the rich - whatever you want to call it - does NOT work. A Republican lie to shower favors on rich friends and donors.
As far as Franklin Raines is concerned, he talked to Obama or one of the advisors a couple of times. Raines was never the "top economic advisor" to Obama.
You are trying to create the fantasy of a collaboration between the 2, just like Bush and Cheney tried to create conspiracy meetings between Hussein's and al Qaida's officials in Prague. Never happened. Just another Republican lie or fantasy.
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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Endoscopy: "You are known by the company you keep"
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Do you also condemn all the Republican Senators and Congressmen because they hung around with the few politicians and administration officials who had to resign or have even been convicted?-
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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um, candid camera ?
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resigning officials and congressment are a far cry from known terrorist like Bill Ayers who blew up the Pentagon and later said that "he didn't do enough"....Rev Wright's radical, white-hating, America hating talk is also a major difference compared to what you mentioned above....And yes, you're associations do matter especially when you lie about sitting in a pew for 20 years and saying he never said nasty things like that....Or having someone from your very own camp admitting that Osama and Bill Ayers were still "friends"....
Yes, I would say that is a BIG problem.....Don't you ?
I don't understand why you libs cannot see the disconnect...If McCain had attended a KKK meeting back in his youth 1 time, you libs would crap your pants, biting at the bit, to make sure that bigot never came to power.....
I don't understand why these questions have not been answered and why the media purposely buries their head in the sand on this....
No, they're more concerned about trashing Palin and her family, playing snippets of her messing up, or making her appear that she's this bible-thumpin' holy roller that is somehow going to force EVERYONE to worship God if she gets the VP spot...
Tell me something, candid camera, if Palin is soooooo bad, then why does she have a 80% approval rating ? Are all Alaskans dumb possibly ?
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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"resigning officials and congressment are a far cry from known terrorist like Bill Ayers who blew up the Pentagon"
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Don't you mean the present administration that allowed terrorist to bring down the World Trade Center and Pentagon?? Yep! Bush and Cheney. They are friends of McCain.
"Tell me something, candid camera, if Palin is soooooo bad, then why does she have a 80% approval rating ? Are all Alaskans dumb possibly ?"
Better check the latest news before blowing that horn. Her ratings in Alaska are dropping like a rock.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/artic...-
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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Did you read your won article? It said with all the media "hatred" and the smear campaigns aimed at Palin, of course, her numbers are going to drop....
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People like you believe all the crap you read and hear on CNN and the NY Times, so why would alaskans be any different?
Everything from Troopergate (or Taser-gate) to her yougest daughter supposedly being her GRAND-daughter has of course affected her approval numbers.....Before this election and before her VP nomination nobody cared about her and now that she is in this race, of course, the Osama lovin', butt kissin', Democrap wantin' ,liberal media is going to do everything in their power to make sure she doesn't come close to the VP slot in DC and that includes the lies and myths they seem to conjure up out of nowhere...
Funny, that kid, who I thought was a Democrap senator's son, who allegedly hacked into her emails, tried and tried to find some dirt on Palin, but guess what ? There wasn't any.....
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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lfergie,
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Just thought of an excellent analogy that would explain why Palin's numbers were droppin as you say they are....
It would be like me standing outside of a restaurant yelling to customers as they walk in that there were rats found in this place and I found a bug in a bowl of soup....I wouldn't eat in there if I were you.....
Now tell me....Would you go into that restaurant after I said that ? Would the popularity of that restaurant dwindle over time with me outside bad-mouthing the place ?
I didn't think so....
The media has destroyed her and her family and people like you believe the horsechit they shovel your direction....
plain and simple....
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sinophil491 year, 1 month ago
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What the heck are you loony neocons doing talking about William Ayers all the time?
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In Ayer's crazy days as a radical, Obama was a kid of 7 or 8. In Chicago, Ayers and Obama worked on educational projects. There were no bombings resulting from the couple of joint educational projects they worked on.
You know. There is a distinct feel of desperation and mean-spiritedness in the attacks you neocons are spewing forth in these lies about Ayers, Wright, accusations about incresed taxes on the middle class.
You guys are feeling the tide in America turn against the Republican hegemony of the past 12 years and the ascendancy of the Democratic banners.
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BillieMaxer1 year, 1 month ago
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Palin like her Repug partners, don't give enough credit to the average American. The people of America have been duped too many times in the last 8 years and I truly believe the majority will not let America down for another 4 years of the same.Sarah Palin is just an act and the American public is having fun with it, but they aren't being fooled by it.
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Tell me why when anything is said against Obama it is racial.
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I do not like what Obama has done and what he stands for.
Go for it calling me racist. I dare you.
Before you do you might want to check my profile before you make a fool out of yourself.-
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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I wear that as a badge of honor.
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I was liberal when Johnson issued the war on poverty. It sounded good. then there was all of that legislation. In the 80s I was a foster father in the Detroit metro ares and ran into the problems that well meaning laws had created. ADC destroyed the poor black family life. Food stamps were sold for money to buy booze and drugs. etc. A single act caused major changes for the worse in the way some people lived. That hit me between the eyes. That caused me to rethink about the ability of the government to solve these kinds of problems. They NEVER think about how giving or taking money will make behavior changes in the people affected. Unless that is reasoned out ahead of the time and allowances made to modify the program if things were guessed wrong then I am totally against any welfare program.
Why have the liberals gone from discussing the differences under Eisenhower and Kennedy to today's method of full bore attacking the person instead of exchanging ideas and maybe coming to a better solution by honest discourse. All the hate rhetoric that comes from the left is astounding. It seemed to start under Reagan. The left hate speech was limited then but has grown until most of it is ad hominem attacks.
Why????
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Will13131 year, 1 month ago
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I've checked your profile.. It appears that making the statement about your adoption of bi-racial children some how absolves you of some inner feelings of racism..... or your overt and outright lies to SMEAR someone of color... if you truely understood racial problems.. you would have had the insite to understand the context of Rev Wright's comments.....
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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You are a disgusting foolish person. All you can do is ad hominem attacks. That makes you foolish and the one doing the smear job.
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Notice I gave an opinion.
I do not like what Obama has done and what he stands for.
There is nothing in there about his skin color. It is all in your own mind. I looked at Obamas history and track record in the legislature and Senate and do not like what I saw. That makes me a racist. I have listened to him and gone to his web site and looked at what he proposes and did not like what I saw. This makes me a racist.
I care very much about my children and try to protect them from any racist things. The worst racists they have been exposed to are blacks at a mostly black Boys and Girls Club. My daughter came home in tears because of how those black children treated her. She was an oreo.
By the way you can't read. It says multiracial. They are part white, part black, and part American Indian. They have a target painted on them by all sorts of bigots like you. Black racists hate them and they have already felt that. White racists ate them. Last but not least Indian haters hate them. Three different groups of racists. And you think I don't understand the situation. You are very much a foolish person who only knows how to be a racist by applying that term to others.
You are the racist.
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jordan111 year, 1 month ago
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I'll tell you whose not like me; palin! I wouldn't identify with her on any level, other than we were both born with the same parts. I knew she was a ruthless witch, & her filthy propaganda against Obama doesn't surprise me at all.
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AntiNeoCon1 year, 1 month ago
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Well I don't think the Eskimo Barbie has much clout anymore since people got a real look at her. Maybe a few right wingers worship the ground she walks on but hey, they love Rush Limball too...get my point? Let her rave on, not many are going to pay any attention now. She does make good fodder for SNL I must say.
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miklkit1 year, 1 month ago
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Like that crowd in Florida where most of the people were just coming to look at her? And then the Democrats suddenly had hundreds of people per day coming in to register as Democrats? Tell me. Which way is Florida going according to the polls after that huge rally?
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
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Governor Palin, whether knowingly or not, appealed to the base fears of the far white-wing, I mean far right-wing of the Republican party. She is exacerbating race as an issue, when it should not, in theory, be an issue at all. John McCain and Sarah Palin represent precisely what is wrong with America today; namely, too many people fall prey to their fears and pandering by political candidates.
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NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago
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"She is exacerbating race as an issue, when it should not, in theory, be an issue at all. John McCain and Sarah Palin represent precisely what is wrong with America today;"
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exactly.
I think she knew what she was implying. or really, her coaches knew it, since she is obviously just a pull-string doll doing the bidding of her handlers.
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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What a couple of kooks. What she represents is what liberals HATE.
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Devout Christian.
Family values.
Working and raising a family.
Fights corruption.
Cuts spending and fires people who do not get with the program.
Lowers taxes.
Built infrastructure at lower cost. As Mayor built a building the people voted for by raising taxes from 2% to 2.5% while drastically cutting property taxes.
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miklkit1 year, 1 month ago
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This Wasilla resident puts the lie to your opinions. By the way, I talked to a guy who has a condo in Wasilla. He calls her an airhead.
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http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341-
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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That is why she has ratings of well over 80% approval in Alaska. I'm sure there are those who despise her including a former chairman of the Republican party in Alaska. He was fined $12,000 because of her. Hard core liberal Democrats as well probably.
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Beau78901 year, 1 month ago
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Since you only made one claim that was specific and based on facts that can be proven or disproven, it's the only one I'll mention here.
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Speaking of Palin, you said:
"As Mayor built a building the people voted for by raising taxes from 2% to 2.5% while drastically cutting property taxes."
According to the Anchorage Daily News, by the time Palin's term as mayor ended, her town's spending increased by 50% from when she took office.
She also left Wasilla with almost $20 million in long-term debt. For a town of 6,000 people, that's over $3000 each.-
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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If you check your facts you will find that the building was put up for a vote of the public and it was to be paid for by an additional .5% on the sales tax. You will also find that the result of her cutbacks was to reduce the property tax on the people there.
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Beau78901 year, 1 month ago
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If you read my comment, you'll see that I did not dispute your statement about that one particular building, or the sales tax.
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What I did dispute was your implication that Palin is fiscally responsible.
She INCREASED SPENDING BY 50%.
And she left her town of 6000 inhabitants with a $20 MILLION DEBT.
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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But you ignore the basic fact that the citizens of the town decided that they wanted that building. I guess that you think that buildings should be paid for in cash. Is that how you paid for your house? Cash?
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Almost every government uses loans to pay for high cost buildings. You are tilting at windmills. Trying to create something out of NOTHING.-
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Beau78901 year, 1 month ago
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The point is that she is NOT spending within her means, regardless of what the townspeople wanted.
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If you were to put it to a referendum, most Americans would probably vote for the U.S. Treasury to hand a million dollars to each citizen.
That does NOT make it a fiscally responsible action.
It actually makes it a lot more like Bush's pre-election promise to give "rebates" to every taxpayer. In other words, a promise to pay citizens for votes.
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ind061 year, 1 month ago
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Now that's just silly.
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Could you possibly know a single liberal and make such a completely wrong set of statements?
I want a link to liberals hating fighting corruption
I want a link to liberals hating firing people who do not "get with the program"
I want a link to liberals hating building a building the people voted for by raising taxes from 2% to 2.5%
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
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Why, then Endo, does Wasilla have a 1.5 Million dollar deficit? Why is it a small town is going to be stuck in court for decades trying to resolve land disputes over whether they should have even legally built the ice rink? She fought corruption and stood to build a large natural gas pipeline from Alaska to the lower 48. However, she has not bothered to settle the land disputes for that project either. Hence, it may never become operational. She may be a devout Christian, but what makes you think liberals are incapable or unworthy of also being Christian? That is a sweeping generalization.
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She fought corruption so much, she became a part of it. If she is untainted, then why is she so stubborn about testifying in Troopergate? As GW has claimed, if you are so innocent, then you should have no trouble testifying.
She fired people who did not get with the program all right. Either you are her lackey or you are swiftly unemployed. The Nazi rulers in Germany in the 1930s had a similar policy. Remain loyal, or run a dog sled team in Alaska. Enough with your absurd fallacies and blaming liberals. The people who have raised taxes and spent feverishly have been the Republicans. Most Americans were hit with a huge tax increase to help offset the borrowing we have done from China to make the oil barons rich.
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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Thank God for the fact that i'm not like Palin or McCain. I actually care about people instead of material possessions, and will feed stray animals rather than kill them.
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Sarah Palin is a bigot, i firmly believe that she made the comment "Sambo beat the bitch" when Obama beat Hillary in the primaries, and she's not very good at hiding her bigotry either. McCain isn't a lot better!-
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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What a laugh.
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"I actually care about people instead of material possessions, and will feed stray animals rather than kill them."
She hated people so bad she cut spending and taxes.
She hated people so bad that she fought corruption including taking on people in her own party.
Too many wolves are not stray animals. They will if let run unchecked over kill the Moose and Caribou and then die by starvation. Do you want a few packs of wolves delivered to your door? You could take them in.-
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miklkit1 year, 1 month ago
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Pain raised taxes for Joe Sixpack, and cut taxes for corporate america.
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Endoscopy, you're either lying or you're misinformed.
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Palin didn't cut spending in Wasilla. She increased it by 50%.
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Endo said: "She hated people so bad she cut spending and taxes."
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You mean like the massive pork that was ten times the rate of people from Illinois and the highest in the country? Who would have guessed? And here I thought a fiscal conservative would have cut taxes and spending, but no, that was not what Palin did.
Indeed, in her 20 months in office, Palin's toughest financial decisions involved dickering with the Legislature on creative ways to spend and salt away the billions of dollars in oil revenues pouring into the state treasury.
At times, Palin has been more economic populist than small-government conservative, partly because of Alaska's unique government financing system.
With no statewide income or sales tax, Alaska funds about 90 percent of the state budget from royalties and taxes on oil producers. Soaring oil prices and a higher windfall oil profits tax - an increase pushed through by Palin, now the Republican vice presidential nominee - have state coffers overflowing with petrodollars. The Alaska oil industry calculates that its annual payments to the state doubled in a single year to $10.2 billion.
Windfall oil profit taxes, just like Obama suggested and the McCain and the GOP rejected. What a phony baloney fiscal conservative, but typical. She cut spending about as much as the GOP Congress during the Bush years.
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Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago
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Surprise: Obama’s taken more money from major oil company employees than McCain
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Through June, Exxon employees have given Obama $42,100 to McCain’s $35,166. Chevron favors Obama $35,157 to $28,500, and Obama edges out McCain with BP $16,046 vs. $11,500. McCain leads the money race with nearly every other top giver in the oil and gas industry, though — Koch Industries, Valero, Marathon Oil, Occidental Petroleum, ConocoPhillips, the list goes on. (You can see detail on all these companies in the spreadsheet linked below.) McCain also has a big edge with Hess Corp. — $91,000 to Obama’s $8,000 — which has gotten some attention. And, overall, McCain’s campaign has gotten three times more money from the industry than Obama’s has — $1.3 million compared to about $394,000.
Comparing Obama’s and McCain’s financial ties to the oil industry, there’s no question that McCain has benefited more from the industry’s contributions, just as his Republican Party has for years and years.
But Obama’s edge with the oil producers Americans know best — and might be cursing most these days — makes it harder for him to continue to tar McCain as the industry’s darling.
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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They had an anti-Palin rally in Alaska with a bigger crowd turnout than Palin got.
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http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-wo...
And this was verified by Snopes.com
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/rally.asp
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Mutainia1 year, 1 month ago
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It's easier and easier to called a racist now IF you are white. There was a time where using the N-word would have gotten you labeled a racist. Now it's questioning the motives of a man who is half black OR, being critical of a faith called Islam.
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I'm not convinced that her comments were racist, but it was filthy propaganda. Guilt by association stinks. I've been on a board of directors with all kinds of people. I worked with them, did fund raising with them. I didn't select them, and I have no idea of their backgrounds, nor do I know what they have done since I quit the board. They could be murderers for all I know. Should I be held responsible for their actions? That's ridiculous.
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This whole thing should not be an issue for two reasons:
1. Ayres was a university professor, a respected member of the community, when they were on the board together.
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Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago
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Possibly relying on connections that Ayers' wealthy father had in Chicago, Ayers and Dohrn were able to land sinecures in academia.
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Ayers teaches another course, "Social Conflicts of the 1960s" that promotes the agitprop from his and Dohrn's Weather Underground Days. Paulo Freire was also a leading theoretician of Liberation Theology, which advocated that schools be used to promote revolutionary fervor and actions among the "oppressed" -- which in Freire's view included most of the world. Liberation theology is also advocated by Pastor Jeremiah Wright, which he has promoted through his pulpit for decades. While the liberation theology pushed by the Pastor has its roots in the work of James Cone, which fuses liberation theology with the cause of African-American liberation and activism, the work of Freire and Cone draw upon the same conceptual foundations.
Instead of educating teachers to prepare their students for the real world, and to acculturate immigrant children into the civic culture of America, Ayers is helping to create a cadre of teachers who will promote a view that is radically at odds with the mores of most Americans and that is divorced from the traditions of education in America.
A little over 10 years ago, Ayers and Greene were able to get a series of books on education published. Ayers was editor and Green served on the editorial board (with Rashid Khalidi -- a supporter of the Palestinian cause, the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University.
Khalidi also has ties with Barack Obama that have been widely reported when journalists cover Obama's extensive support for the Palestinians, most recently in the Los Angeles Times "Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Barack Obama").
How should teachers teach science, for example? According to one of the books, Ayers and Greene approved for publishing,
"The marriages between capitalism and education and capitalism and science have created a foundation for science education that emphasizes corporate values at the expense of social justice and human dignity." The alternative?
"Science pedagogy framed around social justice concerns can become a medium to transform individuals, schools, communities, the environment, and science itself, in ways that promote equity and social justice.
Creating a science education that is transformative implies not only how science is a political activity but also the ways in which students might see and use science and science education in ways transformative of the institutional and interpersonal power structures that play a role in their lives."-
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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Klarissa,
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Aside from the fact that all of what you've written is relevant to Ayers but irrelevant to Obama, I have a few questions. I hope the others will forgive us our digression. You state "Ayers is helping to create a cadre of teachers who will promote a view that is radically at odds with the mores of most Americans and that is divorced from the traditions of education in America."
Later on, you quote from one of his books, in which he explains how science should be taught:
"Science pedagogy framed around social justice concerns can become a medium to transform individuals, schools, communities, the environment, and science itself, in ways that promote equity and social justice.
Creating a science education that is transformative implies not only how science is a political activity but also the ways in which students might see and use science and science education in ways transformative of the institutional and interpersonal power structures that play a role in their lives."
Are you saying that equity and social justice are "radically at odds with the mores of most Americans" and are "divorced from the traditions of education in America"? If that's the case, I'm glad that I don't live there.
Even if we look at the second paragraph that you probably find more inflammatory, are you saying that the US is so perfect that there is no need to improve or transform "the institutional and interpersonal power structures that play a role in their lives"? What do you think has caused the current financial meltdown?-
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Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago
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He thinks science is a political activity.
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no proofs, just yell louder
Creating a science education that is transformative implies not only how science is a political activity but also the ways in which students might see and use science and science education in ways transformative of the institutional and interpersonal power structures that play a role in their lives."-
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Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago
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because it is creationist - if you don't believe in the scientific method, but believe that science is a political activity, what do you think started the whole earth thing.
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I believe in the scientific method, but I think that it is POSSIBLE that there is something greater than us human beings out there.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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Laudem Gloriae
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Zelo zelatus sum pro Domino Deo exercituum
13 March 2008
McCain and PNAC
McCain has surrounded himself with the best and brightest from the now-defunct Project for the New American Century: Randy Scheunemann, one of its directors, is serving as McCain’s top foreign policy advisor. He is joined by PNAC’s founder, Bill Kristol, along with Gary Schmitt (President), Robert Kagan (director), and James Woolsey (signatory).
More than any other group, PNAC has exerted the greatest influence over the Bush administration with regard to foreign policy. In 1998, PNAC sent a letter to President Clinton (signed by the likes of Cheney, Rumsefeld, Wolfowitz, and others) urging him to effect regime change in Iraq because of Saddam Hussein’s so-called development of WMDs. Clinton responded by initiating Operation Desert Fox, bombing military targets over a period of several days to “degrade” Iraq’s ability to produce nuclear weapons.
A mere nine days after 9/11, PNAC sent a letter (signed again by many of the same luminaries) asking that President Bush attack Iraq even if no links to 9/11 were found. The Bush administration promptly proceeded to do just that: according to the testimony of ex-CIA and FBI, every intelligence agent in Iraq was tasked to discover links between Hussein and al-Qaeda. When they came up with nothing, they were ordered to look again. Despite the lack of credible links, the Bush administration proceeded to act as PNAC had requested.
Though PNAC has since disintegrated due to internal conflict (there have been disagreements over the way the Iraq war is being waged and the government’s position towards Iran), its inner circle continues to do its work now advising the Republican nominee for president. McCain, with his talk of an occupying presence in Iraq for upwards of “10,000 years”, his recklessly aggressive attitude towards Russia, his glibness toward Iran, and his rock-solid belief that America must continue to be the world's policeman (a phrase, normally used pejoratively, employed in a complimentary fashion by him), McCain is PNAC’s dream candidate.
Well it seems both candidates like to flirt with unsavoury characters and crooks.
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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What you've quoted doesn't show that Ayers doesn't. Besides, I haven't heard Obama endorse unconditionally Ayers's methods.
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From the little you've quoted, it seems to me that he wants to raise social consciousness about science. Developing a vaccine or some other cheap preventive method against malaria is transformative, and so is developing a new class of nuclear weapons, only they transform societies in different ways. Science is not neutral to society, and that has nothing to do with the scientific method.-
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
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From what I have read, it seems he sees science USING the scientific method to reach a variety of conclusions cannot be VOID of ethical and moral underpinnings. In other words, we can carry on all the scientific experiments we want, but when they cause more harm to people or the planet than good, we need to cease the experimentation. If science can develop a new strain of corn which would help end world hunger, then scientists and agricultural experts should lead the way. However, if said species would lead to an increase in a pest which would kill the wheat crop, then science would need to re-think its strategies.
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Sure, science can and should be part political activity. After all, aren't most scientific discoveries developed only after and because a certain amount of political funds are poured into the coffers of the science institutions conducting the research?
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Does the phrase "You are known by the company you keep." ring a bell?
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There were TV and news reporting of Ayres proclaiming he was not sorry for what he had done and just wished he could have set off more bombs. Thei was all over the news in Chicago. Ayres was known for this by most people there. Somehow Obama did not leant these things????
Such a tenuous relationship.
Kickoff political fund raising for Obama in his house.
Mayor Daley said they are friends.
Went to his house multiple times.
Worked with him on several boards including one where $110 million went missing and another where Obama chaired the financial half of an Ayres fund raising for college foundation. That one funneled money to Ayres which was a no no.
Very tenuous. Hardly saw each other. I know of a cheap house in sunny Sarasota on Siesta Key. Want to buy it?-
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Does the phrase "You are known by the company you keep." ring a bell?
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You mean the Keating Five that McCain associated with?
Or maybe you mean Rick Davis that got money from Freddie Mac for work that he didn't do?
Or maybe you mean Phil Gramm who pushed the 1999 financial deregulation bill while he was Chairman of the Senate Financial Committee.
Or Charlie Black who said another attack on the US would help McCain's campaign?
Karl Rove-----enough said
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larrykqc1 year, 1 month ago
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It must be very PC to accuse a truth-teller of being a racist.
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Barack (Barry) was educated as a Musim. Then, he disavowed his religion when Michelle told him he would be more successful as a Christian. He started at his South Side church, but disavowed it when it became public that his pastor was a racist. He took the Arabic name Barack when he disavowed his white up-bringing. His father was an Arab - only 10% african. But, Barack disavowed his race to become more popular as an African-American (he is not).
When a person ignores his race, his religion, his name. and his violent friends - Ayers and Resko, he is racist - one who uses race to overcome another.
Palin, a much stronger person than Obama, was simply telling the truth. obama has no defense. Obama is the racist. He has no abilty but to live in deception. .Someone said that he would be another Carter. His lies are so much more. He will cost his party 50 years of success. Then he will disavow his party.-
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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By Any Measure, Sarah Palin is a Radical Political and Religious Extremist
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It’s hard to believe that the corporate media is headlining Sarah Palin’s warmed-over-from-the-primaries Sean Hannity smears against Obama. But then again, according to the site Think Progress, the Mainstream Media Stand To Receive $1.44 Billion From McCain’s Tax Cuts.
While Palin, as the aerial presidential campaign wolf hunter, retreads disproven slander that Obama was somehow in league with an act committed by Bill Ayers when Palin was in the second grade -- so to speak -- and Obama was also in elementary school, the mainstream press ignores Palin’s extremely radical ties to extremist political and religious movements.
..."Palin Who Pals Around with the Alaska Independence (Secessionist) Party, Gets Blessed by a Nutcase Minister Who Protects Her from Witch Doctors, Listens to Speakers Who Believe Jews are Damned, Calls the Iraq War Divinely Inspired (and More of Unacceptable Anti-American and Extremist Beliefs and Behavior) is Now Following the McCain Effort to Reawaken Old Discredited Smears on Obama. Palin is Just a Rabid Pit Bull. Forget the Lipstick." And that’s not even the half of her UnAmerican beliefs, not even a fifth of them....
...Meanwhile, Palin – who is a believer in a renegade theology called "The Third Wave" that believes God has chosen certain people (her) to lead America into preparation for Armageddon, indeed that her ascension to the presidency is a prerequisite for End Times – is getting the kids gloves treatment from the national press...
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Do you know which side of the political spectrum radical is?
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Most liberals keep calling conservatives radical. Such ignorance.
Political Spectrum
Radical, liberal, moderate, conservative, and reactionary.
Any time you call a conservative radical you are saying they are to the left of liberal. You people are just plain nuts.-
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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You're wrong. It's liberal, moderate, conservative, reactionary, and radical. LMAO
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Actually radical is an adjective that describes a noun meaning "thoroughgoing or extreme, esp. as regards change from accepted or traditional forms" which could be attached to any political ideas. -
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gamahuche1 year, 1 month ago
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Try a dictionary!
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radical –adjective
1. of or going to the root or origin; fundamental: a radical difference.
2. thoroughgoing or extreme, esp. as regards change from accepted or traditional forms: a radical change in the policy of a company.
3. favoring drastic political, economic, or social reforms: radical ideas; radical and anarchistic ideologues.
4. forming a basis or foundation.
5. existing inherently in a thing or person: radical defects of character.
6. Mathematics.
a. pertaining to or forming a root.
b. denoting or pertaining to the radical sign.
c. irrational (def. 5b).
7. Grammar. of or pertaining to a root.
8. Botany. of or arising from the root or the base of the stem.
–noun
9. a person who holds or follows strong convictions or extreme principles; extremist.
10. a person who advocates fundamental political, economic, and social reforms by direct and often uncompromising methods.
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Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago
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Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society.
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Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth into a small section of society who control capital, and creates an unequal society.
All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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Firstly, the school that Obama attended was a regular public school. Claiming that he attended a Madras is factually incorrect. A majority of the students were Muslim, but the Muslim religion wasn't taught there any more than the Christian religion is taught in American public schools.
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sinophil491 year, 1 month ago
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larry - What the heck are you talking about? There are several websites where you can get information on Barack Obama's background. Both Time and Newsweek magazines have printed biographical information on Obama. You are just a ranting, raving idiot.
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Please read something reliable before you post this nonsensical drivel and expose your stupidity to the world.
Barack is the name of his Kenyan father. His mother was a white Christian. Barck did not give up any race or religion. He was searching for a religion and chose the church of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, because Wright was a social activist who used religion to try to improve the welfare of the poor blacks in the Southside of Chicago. That message resonated w/ Obama who deliberately turned down lucrative offers from law firms to work with the poor at a salary of $20,000 per year.
His background of being exposed to white culture when he was raised by his white mother and his white grandparents and being exposed to black culture by - well, being black - puts him a a unique position in American politics to bridge the great divide that still exists between the races.
You do not need to be afraid of a black person being the president of our country, or for that matter, a Buddhist, a Muslim, a Jew, a Catholic, a Mormon, or whatever. Don't be afraid to embrace diversity. -
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djn3nunez31 year, 1 month ago
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Do yourself a favor
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp
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slate1 year, 1 month ago
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No one called him a terrorist. Or atleast I never have. It was stated that he has hung out with a known terrorist in the past. In fact, he thouthgt enough of the man to throw his political kick off party in the man's house. I'd say that would denote hanging out.
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WHAT ARE YOU ON slate:
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It was shrub and his economic adviser who got the ball rolling; but yes a former Dem POTUS endorsed it as did a Rep or Dem hopeful.
And there were quite a few Reps that went along with it also, bu you just keep blaming one side;;;but if you looked at it without bias you would see there is very little difference between Dems and Reps, they have been bought and paid for for years. -
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"Dems that just sent 850billion dollars to corporations"
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Read this, it will make you smarter!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/05/60minute...
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