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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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Yeah, you know that this stikes a chord when there are so many comments coming in about how "irrelevant" this is to the election.
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The reason the Ayers / Obama / terrorism issue will not die out despite massive efforts to just make it go away, is the very fact that Obama has failed really come clean on the issue.
To most Americans this all smells very very very bad, and the fact Obama cannot come clean on it says a lot more than the huge effort to suppress it.-
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techsupport1 year, 1 month ago
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Is this relevant too, then?
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McCain's "own Bill Ayers":
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/06/mccains-...
Why is this association never brought up? Do we want a man who was convicted of felony and conspiracy in relation to an act that was the most damaging to Presidential trust in this country's history to once again have access to the White House? Why has Sen. McCain never disavowed him? Isn't he ashamed of what this man did to our country?-
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Sabretooth1 year, 1 month ago
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I think you guys need to be doing more to smear Obama, you are falling behind still in the polls. I think if you were to lie twice as much and smear say...three times as much that you could recover the lead, lmao.
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C'mon, where is Luvmyprez, alphagnosis, you are letting your team down, you need to bring the smears, take off the gloves and sing the praises of that twit vp you picked....you can do it!!!
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ELuven1 year, 1 month ago
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So true,nobody seesms to mind who Obama associates with,walks like a duck, talks like a duck-you pick terrorist,socialist,white hater or everything wrapped into being an American hater. Next thing you know our Presidents will only step down when they're dead.
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vabnker1 year, 1 month ago
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Karly he has come clean, and major news sources have debunked this. The reason it wont die out is because people like you continue to want to make a big deal of it. Tell us all exactly what does Ayers stepping on the American flag have to do with he and Obama sitting on a board together. Can someone who uses half-truths and outright lies to smear the competition be considered "respectful?" That is what Senator McCain and his running mate Sarah Palin have done - and continue to do with their characterization of Senator Obama as "paling around with terrorists." This is not my opinion, this is what several reputable news organizations have concluded:
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CNN calls these allegations "False." The New York Times says, " the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers." The Washington post, ""This whole connection is a stretch," The Chicago Sun Times, " Obama's Connection To Ayers Is A "Phony Flap".
If your claim that his minimal association with Ayers is a big deal, then tell us all how you feel about McCain voting with Bush more than 90% of the time. Ayers never killed anybody when he bombed buildings. Bush, McCain and Palin because they are associates of the same party have killed more than 38,000 people in Iraq and Afghanistan including over 4,000 precious American men and women. -
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Karlyc
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McCain was in the Navy when Johnson bombed our ship in the Gulf of Tonkin so I guess that would put him in cohorts with Johnson.
"The reason the Ayers / Obama / terrorism issue will not die out despite massive efforts to just make it go away, is the very fact that Obama has failed really come clean on the issue."
Obama has denounced Ayers' radical views and activities but the reason it will die out is the drop in the polls for McCain because of these tactics. The American people are tired of this kind of election tactics and only the Republican supporters want to hear this kind of negative campaign because they're desperate. Obama has a large lead in Florida, Ohio, and Virginia now. What does that tell you? -
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AmericanFighter1 year, 1 month ago
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WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! ok so Obama has turned his back on one belief in his life, he does not appreciate the smallest fragment of American heritage and is happy to let us know about. But hey, what the heck he comes with "CHANGE"... Give me a break people. Is all of America the biggest group of fair weather friends that has been recorded to date? I pray not...
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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Karlyc: "The reason the Ayers / Obama / terrorism issue will not die out despite massive efforts to just make it go away, is the very fact that Obama has failed really come clean on the issue.
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No, this issue won't die because people like you keep pushing it. Obama won't come clean about it, you say? Clean about what? He had nothing to do with it. Have you ever served on any board? If yes, do you know what other board members did when you weren't with them? I've served on a board as a director, and I don't have the foggiest idea about what the other directors did outside the board meetings. Moreover, my concern was with the organization and making sure that everything worked well there, and I didn't even care what the others did in their own time.
You say that all this smells very bad. You know what smells bad? This smear campaign smells bad; it smells to high heaven. I just hope that Americans can smell it too and all this will backfire on the McCain campaign. In all my life, I've never seen as much filth in a campaign as I'm seeing now.
I'm not a Democrat, and I have no vested interest in this election, but I find it really disgusting.-
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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So let me get this straight, Candida....
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If I go to KKK meetings, never burn a cross or anything, but just attend the meetings on occasion and hang out with fellow KKK clansmen, then I can run for president and not be scrutinized for my associations?
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Sabretooth1 year, 1 month ago
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I seriously doubt you have the intellectual ability to get any fact straight FSU. I will not even bother to debate you since you long ago proved to most here what kind of a simpleton you are.
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Repeat after me friend...President Obama, and thankyou for your contributions to helping an intellectual get elected. -
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PapaWolf1 year, 1 month ago
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First, David Duke, grand pupah of the KKK, got elected to Congress from Louisiana (IIRC)
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Second, Obama did NOT attend any "meetings". AAMOF, when Ayers was doing his anti-Viet Nam protest, Obama was 8 - yes, that's EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!!
Give it up. You're all reaching, & it makes you look more stupid than Palin looked in the debate - no facts, just "Maverick" lies & winks.
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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Karlyc,
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You want to talk about the associations of the candidates? How about taking a look at McCain's associations? These are not casual contacts on the board of an organization; these are his own actions with those associates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDofbll86dY-
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MJ4bama1 year, 1 month ago
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This Obama, Ayers talk is just an act of desporation by the Mccain Palin campagn.
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this country is going down financialy and you republicans don't have nothing to talk about but send your attact dog Sarah Palin to talk about Bill Ayers.
That's Shameful.
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ADAGUY1 year, 1 month ago
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Wouldn't you rather discuss something more important?
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darlingfall71 year, 1 month ago
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I know .....I dont see how you people could think this is ok.......He shouldnt even be running!!!!! This is the 5th bad person they have connected Obama too.....you cant tell me that they are ALL wrong.......get a grip people....were losing our country
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Tammy241 year, 1 month ago
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Obama may not have been the one to step on the flag but he is the one that was refusing to wear a flag of the United States on his lapel and he was the one that refused to place his hand over his heart and recite the Pledge of Allegiance to our flag. I believe that no one should be allowed to serve any kind of political office unless they have served in some kind of military branch for the United States of America.
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
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More lies.
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Besides -- What about all the armchair soldiers, NASCAR fans and drunken idiots that wear torn up, cut up bits of flags as clothing (such as shirts, 'flag' hats, et cetera)? Just as offensive in my book.
As for believing that no one should be allowed to serve in Political office unless they've served in the military -- ridiculous. Bush supposedly served in the Military and look where he got us. I served in the military and the majority of people below, say, E-7 are idiots. Wonderful, beautiful people, but not someone I'd want running anything.-
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Blackacereturn1 year, 1 month ago
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If I were Obama adviser I would tell him to let them talk about this you keep telling the American people how you are going to fix the economy and help them to get back on their feet after what the Republicans did to them!
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Be dismissive of their behavior, keep hammering them with this, they are harping on things we all know are inconsequential to your well being, and things that have been proven to be non issues, they are doing this because they have nothing to offer that is substantiative, nothing to offer to fix the economy or Iraq...nothing to offer when it comes to the state of our beloved nation so they revert to name calling and lies!.
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HateKoolAid1 year, 1 month ago
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That's it?? It has come down to the wearing of flag pins. You do realize tammy24 that McCain didn't wear a flag pin during his acceptance speech or during the first debate, so it is kind of a ridiculous reason to consider ones qualifications. Our forefathers made it a point to put separation between the militias and government. Restricting political office only to ex-military is getting a little to close to "junta" style government.
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WETelevision1 year, 1 month ago
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it is my belief that the people saying that serving OUR country in the military is not a prerequisite for office are the same ones that do not have the heart or courage to defend the USA against all enemies foreign and domestic. I don't think that it should be mandatory but it should certainly be a major consideration. I believe these are the same people that do not serve in the peace corps or any other organization that helps defend our country in the eyes of the world and show them that not all we do is fight to defend our country. We also will help to defend their country if we are needed. Ask a Kuwaiti citizen how they feel about our help. Most of them have never been outside of the borders of their states let alone our country to see the good that we do in the world. hey are the ones that will sit at home and believe that everything the press prints is true. I wonder if the term YELLOW PRESS rings a bell with them? Just be ready to defend our country and your family when the extremists begin fighting the Jihad here. It won't be pretty and you will have to get out of your SUV and show some backbone.
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sumptuousdigs1 year, 1 month ago
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You get props for naming the greatest...but one slight error on Lincoln. Lincoln served in a minor role during the Black Hawk War. I don't remember if it was a state militia or no, but it still qualifies as military service. Ol' Lincoln was a man for his times, and a man in his time. He advised against a war with Mexico because he didn't feel we had any "...truck with greasers". Lol! Please excuse the bluntly incorrect language, they were Lincoln's words, reflecting the idiom of the times. Lincoln had flaws. All of my heroes do...and that's what makes them so special.
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They exceed their limitations.
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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Tammy24: "he is the one that was refusing to wear a flag of the United States on his lapel and he was the one that refused to place his hand over his heart and recite the Pledge of Allegiance to our flag."
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There is a difference between not doing something and refusing to do something. Did/do all the other candidates wear a flag pin all the time? I bet I can find all kinds of pictures of McCain without a flag pin. As far as the pledge of allegiance goes, take a look at the two videos at the bottom of the page at this link, and put your mind at rest. He does, indeed, put his hand over his heart during its recital.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
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Blackacereturn1 year, 1 month ago
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4th that's crap. I can show you five brothers that were raised by the same mom and dad and 3 of them went on to be the best they can be and, 2 are just scum. I have friends that went to jail and have done things that I cant speak of and, I went to school and got a degree in environmental engineering, I AM NOT MY FRIENDS. I am still friends with them some of them today! Obama and this bill person were and are not friends. You would have had to slink out from under some rock to believe otherwise.
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Mr. Obama is remarkable in this way, he seem to have been the exception when it comes to corruption.
To come out of Chicago politics with the worse thing being he may have bought some land for less than it was worth is an accomplishment to me that is worth NOTING -
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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4thchance: "you are who you hang out with!"
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Then everybody in the Senate and Congress is doomed because they tend to hang out with each other. Do I remember correctly that there were a number of scandals involving some of them? Pedophile seems to ring a bell. Keating five?
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DEM4MCCAIN1 year, 1 month ago
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YOU OBAMA NUT'S WOULD LET HIM **** IN YOUR FACE AND TELL YOU IT'S RAIN AND YOU WOULD BLINDLY GO ON THINKING JUST THAT BECAUSE THE GREAT ONE SAID IT.. THIS MAN IS PURE EVIL BUT YOUR SO TAKEN WITH ALL HIS B.S. YOU WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT COME'S OUT THIS NASTY MOUTH..
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Blackacereturn1 year, 1 month ago
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Over 400 senators were in the same congress as that senator that molested his mail page...I guess they are all child molester now. How this worked in the pass is beyond me. How people listen to this drivel and said yes the GOPers are the ones for this country is just hard to understand.
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Juts commonsense will tell ya that Obama isn't in any way connected to any radical groups. Thinking people knows that if Obama were to do anything of that sort he would be dead in the blink of an eye and so does Obama. I don't think giving the white population a reason to kill him is big on his agenda! It's not like he is hiding in the mountain with OSBL
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Wolfie20071 year, 1 month ago
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Here's some more of Obama friends.
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GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago
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It isn't Ayers past. It's what the schools were teaching that Obama did have direct connections with. It has been reported that Ayers feels the curriculum was a continuation of his radical bomber days. Research what that was all about and you'll see why this is a problem.
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GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago
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Obama, as I understand it, didn't set the curriculum, but was instrumental in approving the funding. I wish I had linked the article at the time,I can't find it, yet, to review it again to be sure I was accurate. I'll be more careful in the future. What I remember that struck me was that they observed UN holidays in place of traditional American holidays, and that they did not improve the education of the students.
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Listen to all the liberals try to make this issue go away. Lie about it diminish it. etc.
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He was friends with the man and had his support for getting started in politics. He went to his house on more than one occasion. He co chaired the Annenburg Challenge along with serving on other organizations with him. And people want to think that a person as well known in Chicago no one would told Obama who he was and what he did. And you try to tout Obama as so smart but he didn't know who and what Ayres was.
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