McCain: "Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?" »
Posted By Neophile 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsJohn McCain being interviewed by Mother Jones magazine in the Nov/Dec 1998 issue: "Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted? Most of us have never heard of him before. And where there is a parallel with Vietnam is: What's plan B? What do we do next? We sent our troops into Vietnam to protect the bases. Lyndon Johnson said, Only to protect the bases. Next thing you know.... Well, we've declared to the terrorists that we're going to strike them wherever they live. That's fine. But what's next? That's where there might be some comparison."
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Aidenag1 year, 1 month ago
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I hope the TV news picks up on this, if they can pull stuff from decades ago on Obama, they sure as hell should be covering this story on every channel. Especially since McCain is campaigning on national security and foreign policy experience as his sole claim to why he should be in the white house.
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donald511 year, 1 month ago
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Thanks Aidenag! He lost 5 planes and still doesn't know strategy trom tactics... and caved on his own Anti-Torture Bill to allow the CIA to do it still! We don't need this moron getting us into more endless wars! No wonder he was in the bottom of his academy class!
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tomboy5011 year, 1 month ago
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The skeletons in McCain's closet are numerous and devastating. I'm sure this is only the tip of the iceberg.
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All Obama really has to do right now is just keep going like he is going. Even Rove is calling the Election Map for Obama now: http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081005/pl_polit... hahahah
Let McCain and his campaign play around in the gutter and open the doors wide...the media will fill in the blanks over the next 30 days.
And with Palin's snide little comments during her Carson speech yesterday about the media 'spinning her words' (or whatever she said referring to the Albright Starbucks cup-quote), she's just firing up teams of bloggers and MSM investigators to go dredge up and put on display some pretty devastating material on mccain that we all know is out there.
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
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CONS count on their fellows having short term memories, that's why they can get away with blaming Clinton for his lack of action against terrorists in the 90's while conveniently forgetting how Reps faught him every step of the way and tied his hands at every opportunity. When the missile attack that almost took out Bin Laden failed, Reps didn't cry that it wasn't enough, they cried it was too much. A distraction from the 'important' business at hand, a BJ in the Oval Office.
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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I have said it before and i will say it again. IF Mc is elected, the people who voted for him will get exactly what's coming to them. Sadly, the people who didn't vote for him will get the same treatment, but at least we will have the knowledge that we didn't help put him in office.
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epiphannyy1 year, 1 month ago
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I didn't vote for Bush even once, but my quality of life has suffered greatly because of his Presidency. And while I have the knowledge that I didn't help put him there, it doesn't make up for the fact that he's there and has cost the lives of several of my loved ones in his personal war for oil and revenge. Knowing I didn't put them there is nowhere near enough to compensate for the damage he has done just to my personal circle of life, and I am just one person out of the several hundred million in the US.
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I get what you're saying, but we're past the point in this country of simply holding onto the higher moral ground. This election HAS to change the course we're on, or I seriously fear we're going to stray so far from the right course that we'll likely never find our way back again. It may already be too late, to be honest. But I'm not willing to settle for simply knowing I wasn't a part of the destruction. That's where I was during the Bush elections. This one, for me, is all or nothing because I seriously believe that if we get four more years of the same that the days of America, land of the free, etc, will be lost forever. The court appointments coming up this next term are what make it so. Balance and reason MUST be maintained in the court or we'll all be living under the Rovian version of America long past the time every Bush, Cheney, Rove, and McCain have vanished. -
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reidgator1 year, 1 month ago
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And if Obbie is elected, "the people who voted for him will get exactly what's coming to them. Sadly, the people who didn't vote for him, .....
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Get the picture???
I do not like either one of these clowns, so I will have to pick the leser of two evils.
The real question is: which one is worse?
The evidnce is clear that Obbie is the worse option.
You can not trust him at all. He ran in the primary as a "liberal", then, as soon as the media coronated him with the Democratic nomination, he sprinted to the center.
He then preaches that he will "fix Washintgton politics"!
Excuse me, what hypocrisy. He rides the train as far it will take him, and then he will jump off.
This is the philosophy of many Muslim extremist groups. They openly state that they will ride the train of demcoracy as far as it will take them, then, when they gain power, they will jump off that train and impose Sharia law.
Now, I'm not naive. Obbie is not a true Muslim (not that I can tell) and his ability to impose his agenda (whatever it is) will be much less than that of a Muslim theocracy, but, I fear that Obbie will try to seriously alter the landscape is ways that will harm America.
His long time association with Rev. Wright, and some of the comments his wife has made over the years should cause each of us to be very careful!
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miklkit1 year, 1 month ago
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More on the real john.
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http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-...-
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Jaydee401 year, 1 month ago
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Not to be mean but by the time they get to this level aren't they all bought and paid for? With the amount spent on elections in the US you can't even run without being somebody's lap dog. How you doing Bronx, long time no see, hope all is well.. Jay
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rp11281 year, 1 month ago
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While Gov. Palin is questioning the asociation of Sen Obama,she should ask her running mate about his association with Charles Keating. He of the failed savings and loan scandal. Ask Sen. McCain why he tried to intefere with the investgation of Mr. Keating? By the way, that was another govt. bailout that Sen. McCain was involved with,Mr. straight talk is silent about this event. Maybe Gov.Palin will suspend her campaign and take care of those subpoenas she and her husband have waiting in Alaska.
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Tcaros1 year, 1 month ago
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" Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Charles Keating Jr. and his associates at Lincoln Savings and Loan Association."
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Keating had approached McCain to "stall" federal regulators in shutting down his Silverado Savings and Loan.
Charles Keating is a convicted felon now. He was a former Naval Academy graduate and personal friend of John McCain.
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Searchbeam1 year, 1 month ago
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McPain's history is full of fake fables and tall tales, but with very little to show for his 26 years in Washington, DC.
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I am curious to know what exactly happened at his meeting with Dumbya and Shotgun Dickie: Going in, he was dead set against any form of torture. When he came out, his face was ashen, and he said that he supports the current investigation techniques at Gitmo! What an about face from a guy who spent 5 1/2 years in Vietnamese torture chambers.
If I remember correctly, around the same time, there was this saga of Beltway Madam going around, and the list of her "clientele" was in the hands of a chosen few.
One must wonder if there was any association between these two stories on parallel tracks.
Maybe someday we will know!
No matter which way this one shakes out, one thing is very visible: McPain's "chicken dance" around Sarah! Real hot stuff, if you know what I mean! LOL! -
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donald511 year, 1 month ago
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Mik, I was thinking the same thing.... funny how well the well funded, repug spin machine convinces Americans that Dems have been as bad! How easy to forget that in spite of 7 years of repug instigated investigation of Clinton, he still left office with a 65% approval rating!
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Amazing that repugs think a clinton lie that killed no one is worse than bush lies that have resulted in over 1.2 million Iraqi deaths and over 4,000 of our fine young people! -
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crymeariver1 year, 1 month ago
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Finally, someone who makes some sense. I have yet to see a politician who doesn't put his or her party first. Palin is the first one to actually take an office in order to bring about change for the people who put her there.I could never understand our blind devotion to a given party. The hateful comments I see in the chat rooms of late have opened my eyes to the fact that the new age of DEMS are a hateful whinning sort. If we were all smart, we would have asked Governor Huckabee to become an independant and vote for him. At least his fair tax program would have been good for all of us.
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beavith11 year, 1 month ago
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you must be having feverish visions.
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there is no comparison to Hitler, or if you insist there is one, i could make the same argument about O getting swept into power by a groundswell of discontent, just like Hitler.
your impressive intellect is only surpassed by that big jug of kool aid you've been drinking out of.
i happened to see a joke.
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lloydm651 year, 1 month ago
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Obama said in one of his books he would remain American, until things turned sour He then will stand with the Muslims.Does this give you confidence of how hard he will he will work to protect us from these radical nut cases.Maybe he feel he would be a much greater muckedy de muck under Sharia Law.You just don't know about a radical leftist.I do know we can't afford to find out.
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jesh1 year, 1 month ago
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GO TO THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE NOT JUST THE SHORT SNIPPET also notice he starts with "you might say" .... he is not stating fact he is throwing around theory's and it also shows he is not the war monger they make him out to be http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1998/11/ve...
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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Thanks for posting the complete article jesh. I don't see how prefacing his remark with the words, "you might say," really changes the meaning though. in 1998 many conservatives were still thinking of Bin Laden as one of the "freedom fighters" against the soviets in Afghanistan. That would, I think provide more context for McCain's remark.
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Another quote I found interesting was from the question on accepting campaign contributions:
MJ: "Bill Gates has given you money, and so has Rupert Murdoch. Both have business before your committee. This is exactly the thing that most people would raise an eyebrow at. Why do you take their money?"
McCain: "It would be nearly impossible for me to raise money without them. But the important point here is that the evil is soft money. There's nothing wrong, in my view, with taking a $1,000 contribution from anybody who wants to give it. And if it comes from Mr. Gates, or if it comes from my next-door neighbor in Phoenix, I think it's OK. I don't think the system was corrupted until soft money exploded, and I won't have anything to do with soft money."
Given all the hay that some conservatives are making of Obama's contributions, I wonder what they make of that?
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Mutainia1 year, 1 month ago
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It's not just his terrorist ties, it's his 20 years of sitting through something like the Nation of Islam and not bolting out the door from the beginning. It's his throwing his white grandmother "under the bus" even though she "sacrificed mos of her life" for him. It's his taking off Old Glory from his jet, refusing to wear a pen to not offend the enemies of America. It's his lying (uncle didn't liberate Aushwitz), and, his pro-socialist views that will REALLY screw up America.
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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"refusing to wear a pen"?
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When you ditto heads cut and paste from the Corsi book, you still need to spellcheck once in a while. As I post this, the market is down another 500 points, despite McSame's party inserting wooden arrows into the bailout they inflated with additional breaks for the wealthy before they condescended to passing it, and McNasty's campaign wants to pretend he fixed the ecomony so they can go back to smearing Obama? I'd say McPork and his sidekick, Bush-in-a-skirt, belong in a pen.
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ErinOB1 year, 1 month ago
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Yep. That was dumb of McCain to question Bin Ladens significance in terrorism.
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But I would not say that makes him a friend of terrorists because he didn't forsee 9/11.
Nor is Obama.
Neither candidate is 'terrorist friendly'.
This is starting to sound like a witch hunt.
Why do people need to make up stuff to support their candidate?
Does their candidate not stand on their own merits enough to support without trying to feed the rumor mill against the other candidate?
Why do people hate the 'game of politics' and the lies, dishonesty and deceit, when they themselves are buying into it, expounding on it, and only hurting themselves in the end, by crippling the morale of America?
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hubbabubba51451 year, 1 month ago
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Did any of you catch that it was in 1998? Obama is probably saying this NOW! Wake up people? That was 10 almost 11 years ago! And Obama has been willing to negogiate with these guys ten years later, when they have grown in size and strength, and is getting to be a bigger threat by the second! But, no, that little country Iran that is creating weapons of mass descruction is no threat, that tiny country. That is what Barack HUSSEIN Obama is saying. At least John McCain knows that we can not negogiate with these guys, but to fight to the death with these people! Also you liberal democrats who think that MoveOn.com is a great source, LOOK AT THE NAME, MOVEON! Ten years! He was totally different back then! So was everybody else who is running (or not running) today! So shut up! Forget about it! And no negogiating with anti-American nutjobs and morons!
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mustang671 year, 1 month ago
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ARE YOU KIDDING---Obama and his ties to radicals and openly opinionated people is n black community is a very high concern for us all. Do you want a person in office, signing into law, actions that will further suck your dollars out of your pockets and into social programs that will further harm our nation and economy!
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Youth of this country—get a clue, no one will provide you a dollar unless there is something in it for them, and this utopia of everyone having the same income and same benefits, BULL. Hard work gets you ahead. This spew of crap that all of us deserve a house, or a car, or medical insurance--- that is socialism is communistic. Study history—IT DOES NOT WORK!
Lasty, Do You Want Government to tell you how much money you can have—How much of that money you MUST pay to City, State, Federal Programs to keep them going--- THAT IS Social/Communism!!! -
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Mutainia1 year, 1 month ago
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IF McCain took Laden lightly, he was kind of right. It's really not Bin Laden we should be afraid of. It's a book, the Quran, that turns people like Bin Laden and 45 British Islamic MEDICAL doctors (who tried to destroy two Scottish airports), into MONsters.
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