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Posted By BronxBomber 1 year, 2 months ago in Political News

US Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama hits back at Republican "smears" he associated with terrorists.

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    BronxBomber1 year, 2 months ago

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    For Palin to bring up something that took place a long time ago (in the 60's) is so absurd and so out of the periphery just to stir up improbable, and implausible controversy whilst avoiding the real issues that concerns everybody (the current economy for instance like: "Hello!")that it defies all parameters of cognitive,logical, and rational thought. Obama was a child when domestic terrorists "The Weatherman" were at they're peak! Oh Brutha! Gimmeabreak!

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      cloud151 year, 2 months ago

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      How did that 200 million dollar payroll serve you this year?

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        techsupport1 year, 2 months ago

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        What about McCain's "guilt-by-associations?"

        Here's an interesting one. McCain's "own Bill Ayers":

        http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/06/mccains-...

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          UnusualSuspect1 year, 2 months ago

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          LOL...poor McCain...

          He's given up on Michigan because he knows he can't win there. I see him also leaving Virginia, and possibly even Florida within the next three weeks for the same reason...he's probably running out of donations, which accounts for this...

          This week we hear about Troopegate, and we might learn the extent of Ms Palin's involvement...

          He and Palin can't win on the economic issues because so many Americans associate him and Palin with the Bush administration. His campaign is trying to switch the topic from the economy to Bill Ayers or any past associations. Don't they realize the people of this country are interested in the economy, and how McCain/Palin are going to handle it? Apparently not...they're not talking about the economy at all after McCain's ineffectiveness before the bailout bill passed...

          McCain/Palin are behind in the polls, and are falling further behind almost daily now...

          The second debate is Tuesday night...everyone watch, as this will be the one to accelerate the decline of McCain...

          Obama/Biden 08

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          Mutainia1 year, 2 months ago

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          Obama was a kid during the bombings. Does Obama think this terrorist has changed and become pro-America? I doubt it. Why didn't Obama bolt from that Nation of Islam like church?

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            bubba21 year, 2 months ago

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            There is nothing to "bolt" from. Obama has never agreed with Ayers actions in the 60s, and Ayers' current work with community groups has NOTHING to do with what he did in the 60s and thus has NOTHING to do with Obama.

            Question for YOU - If McCain was the one that had this 'association' with Ayers, would you be just as 'condemning' of McCain??

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              Georgia501 year, 2 months ago

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              depends. At least in McCain's case, he can point to dozens of worthwhile relationships that would obscure one or two questionable relationships.

              We point to just two Obama relationships, and O can't toss out one single worthwhile, contructive relationship in rebuttal.

              It's not just that it's Wright and Ayers and Rezko. It's that it's ONLY Wright and Ayers and Rezko, with no counterbalancing honrable relationships.

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                bubba21 year, 2 months ago

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                Please enlighten us with all of those "worthwhile" relationships that McCain has with "worthwhile" people. I hope you don't have Bush, Keating, or John Hagee near the top of your list ...

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                Mutainia1 year, 2 months ago

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                I bet you think I'm pro-McCain, huh? I'm not pro-McCain, but, I'm even more anti-terrorist Obama. As to your question, I'd distance myself more from McCain if he had terrorists as friends.

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                  pcknowledge1 year, 2 months ago

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                  He has Bush as a friend...if that's not having a t.e.r.r.o.r.i.s.t as a friend, than what is? Oh I forgot, Bush & McCain didn't like each other not to long ago...hey do you think Bush introduced McCain to the Saudi Monarchy and Bin Laden's family, since Bush's family has had so many business relationships with them?
                  No? The Saudis are not t.e.r.r.o.r.i.s.t.s either?
                  Ok...what about Cheney? Never mind, Cheney only profits from dirty oil money, that's called business...he shoots his friends, but that's called an accident...

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                    bubba21 year, 2 months ago

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                    Your answer is fallacious, because Obama has NO "terrorists" as 'friends', in spite yours and other's efforts to try to MAKE it so.

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                      Mutainia1 year, 2 months ago

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                      Ayers isn't a terrorist?

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                    Mutainia1 year, 1 month ago

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                    "Question for YOU - If McCain was the one that had this 'association' with Ayers, would you be just as 'condemning' of McCain??"

                    Mut: It would help. But, McCain would also have had to have sat 20 years in a Nation of Islam-like church (and lied like Obama about not hearing anything anti-American within it), and, McCain would have to have a secret Communistic agenda like Obama, getting a lot of funding from Saudi Arabia (which Obama seems to be getting being that he seems to have unlimited funds to have his own TV channel and commercials). If McCain had all that behind him, I'd vote for Obama, because Obama is part black, and, I KNOW this is going to sound racist of me, but, I think it would be cool to have the first black President in my life-time IN the White House.

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                    techsupport1 year, 2 months ago

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                    "Does Obama think this terrorist has changed and become pro-America? I doubt it."

                    Doubting it doesn't make it so. If you're trying to make a solid argument, you need evidence. If you have proof that Mr. Ayers has done anything illegal or even "anti-American" (hint: just because something is "non-conservative" doesn't necessarily mean it's anti-American) in the last, say, 30 years, please post a link. Better yet, if you have credible evidence that Sen. Obama agrees with, endorses, condones, or even vaguely admires behavior such as that which Mr. Ayers engaged over 30 years ago, I'd be very interested in seeing it.

                    "Why didn't Obama bolt from that Nation of Islam like church?"

                    And you are certain that it is a "Nation of Islam-like church" how, exactly? There are people who would entirely disagree with that assessment. White people, in fact. Here's a prominent one:

                    http://www.truthout.org/article/rev-wright-a-diffe...

                    Did you read it? Let me spell it out: White man. Member for 25 years. "Racial divisions were unacceptable." "Never in my life have I been welcomed more warmly and sincerely than at Trinity. Never." In this country we are often too quick to judge based on soundbites rather than facts. If you google the author by name you will find that he is an executive of a major power company.

                    The politics of guilt-by-association are applicable to almost anyone. Everyone has run across someone in their past with "questionable" judgment. Gov. Palin's church, for example, seems pretty far off the deep end to anyone who doesn't believe in witchcraft. John McCain's past involvement with Charles Keating seems quite damning, especially in light of the recent financial crisis.

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                      Georgia501 year, 2 months ago

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                      Gee...sounds like TUCC is a nice church. Still, it's difficult to ignore how fast they scrubbed their web site of black supremacist language after Rev. Wright's hate screed came to light.

                      Fortunately, we have google and the wayback machine. anyone with an internet link can read the filth that was removed from the TUCC website.

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                        techsupport1 year, 2 months ago

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                        I notice you didn't include a link or a quote. Specifically, which language from their site did you find to be "black supremacist?" Please give a direct quote from the site which could be considered "supremacist."

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                      techsupport1 year, 2 months ago

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                      Sen. McCain is also an admitted serial adulterer. He takes full credit for having engaged in multiple extra-marital relationships during the seven years he was married to his first wife Carol after he returned from Viet Nam. His present wife Cindy is one of the women with whom he cheated on his first wife. This is the most extreme form of "guilt-by-association." Not only did he associate with these women (in the, um, "biblical" sense), but he broke a solemn vow (which most religious folks like him would hold to be "sacred") in the process. Let me repeat that, in Biden-esque fashion: John McCain broke a sacred vow repeatedly. He cheated. He lied. He covered it up. Long afterward he admitted it. Sure, he called it his "greatest moral failure." However, he is still reaping the benefits to this day. He's still married to the younger, attractive, uber-wealthy Cindy. It hasn't been a catastrophic failure, in other words. If his relationship with Carol was "on the rocks" or "over with" when he came back from Viet Nam, why did he choose to stay married to her instead of doing the courageous thing and admitting that he wanted a divorce? Why did he sneak around behind her back with other women? Why did he court Cindy for nine long months before approaching Carol for a divorce? Why are his supporters, many of whom are the same people who viciously attacked Pres. Clinton for his affair with Monica Lewinsky, simply willing to ignore this egregious example of moral corruption? Simply because it happened thirty years ago?

                      See the parallel there? Thirty years ago John McCain did something unforgivable. Carol may have let him off the hook, but should the rest of us citizens? Should we believe that someone who repeatedly broke the most sacred vow a person can make has completely reformed and will never lie to anyone ever again? Barack Obama has nothing similar on his record. He may have been associated with someone who did some unforgivable deeds long before he knew him, but there is no credible evidence that he's ever broken his solemn vow to his wife and family. John McCain's past associations are far worse by comparison. And he openly admits to them.

                      If you really think that digging into the dirty politics of guilt-by-association is a fair tactic ("strategy?"), it's necessary to examine both sides of the coin.

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                      Will13131 year, 2 months ago

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                      yep.. going there Palin really dipped low into the cesspool....

                      John McCain once described his wife with a vile word.. I just might fit in the case of Mrs. Palin...

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                        bubba21 year, 2 months ago

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                        THE FACTS about this 'issue' -

                        While it is known that Barack Obama and Bill Ayers live in the same Chicago neighborhood, served on a charity board together and had a fleeting political connection, it's a stretch of any reading of the public record to say the pair ever palled around. And it's wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts.

                        Palin's attacks are LIES - period.

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                          AntiNeoCon1 year, 2 months ago

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                          The "swiftboats" are sailing....McLame has no choice but to resort to the NeoCon character attacks that worked so well in the past. However, I think this time the voters will see it for what it is...cheap shots from a desperate candidate.

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                            ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 2 months ago

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                            Could Cons justify why we're friends with Israel? That nation lionizes the Irgun, the terrorist outfit that did the King David Hotel bombing amongst other things. I thought we were suppose to shun those who associated with unrepentant terrorists.

                            I can't wait to hear the Con nuanced response to why the Irgun are not relevant. To why some terrorism is okay.

                            Go, Cons.

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                              Georgia501 year, 2 months ago

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                              Because when Israel treats Palestinians badly, their citizens are the first to march in protest. But when Palestinians attack Israelis, the animals celebrate.

                              There are some of us who have the audacity to call this a "distinction."

                              Look it up sometime.

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                                ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 2 months ago

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                                Cons, do you even know who the Irgun are?

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                              tchef1 year, 2 months ago

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                              This is a non issue. But Hey, did anyone notice that in the first debate that Obama wore a flag pin and McCain didn't!! OH MY GOD, McCain is SOOOOO unpatriotic.

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                                Georgia501 year, 2 months ago

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                                The rectangle on his lapel is too elongated to be a flag unless maybe it has a border. I can't get a closeup that shows color...anyone?

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                                  UnusualSuspect1 year, 2 months ago

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                                  It was reported that Obama wore a flag pin of some sort...and McCain didn't wear any pin...

                                  Gee...didn't all the Republicans and conservatives make a big stink in the spring and summer about Obama not wearing a flag pin? But no mention of it at all last week.
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                                  Kinda strange, huh....

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                                parkerparker1 year, 2 months ago

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                                I have no doubt Obama has leftist socialist views as shown by his associations with Ayers as well as Rev Wright and the ACORN organization. There are just too many questions and Obama does not want to give any answers. Obama has given money to Acorn, Acorns PAC endorses Obama then says they are non-partisan. Obama has rcvd the second largest amount of money from Fannie and Freddie. Fannie/ Freddie give money to ACORN. Franklin Raines who ran Freddie rcvd 90 million in bonuses before leaving and now he is with the Obama campaign. How can anyone not see the problems here? In their zeal to hate Bush, people are willing to trust anyone who talks the talk. Its plain to see that Obama does not walk the walk. You don't have to like it but McCain has walked the walk all his life and does not hide from the truth.

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