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    Spadecaller1 year, 2 months ago

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    Thanks hurr1 for kicking it off and for your positive critique.

    "A true conservative conserves nature and doesn't boast about killing it. It's all a little sickening, isn't it?"

    A friend e-mailed me that statement.

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      kobzikov1 year, 2 months ago

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      One of my favorite poets and singers of all time, Vladimir Vysotsky, wrote a series of poems on wolf hunting, a popular sport with Soviet officials. Here is a translation by Eugenia Weinstein of the last poem in the series, it is from the point of a hunted wolf. I hope you like it.

      Where are you, wolves?
      Russian title: Okhota s vertoletov (Hunt from Helicopters)

      Like a razor, the daybreak slashed over the eyes,
      From the rot of the river took off dragonflies,
      Then the gun shutters opened, as if by a spell,
      And the gunners appeared, as sure as hell,
      And the merriment started - full-swing, at full pelt!

      You lay down on your bellies and covered your fangs,
      Even those who would dive under round-up flags,
      Who would sense every pitfall when life was at stake,
      Those whom even a bullet could not overtake -
      Also lay, bathed in sweat, and would weaken and shake.

      Life is rarely known to smile on my kin,
      But we love it - to no avail!
      Now, death has a broad and beautiful grin,
      And its teeth are all sturdy and hale!

      Let us smile the grin of a wolf at the foe,
      Dogs are yet to be shown who is stronger!
      But - inscribed as a scarlet tattoo on the snow
      Is your mark: we are wolves no longer!

      So we crawled - tails doggishly tucked, minds dazed,
      Tattered muzzles in wonder to heaven upraised:
      Whether God's retribution was spilling on us,
      Or the end of the world came, or we had gone nuts -
      But the steel dragonflies were scorching our guts!

      We got soaked in blood in the rainstorm of lead.
      There was no escape, and we no longer fled.
      Snow would melt underneath us, like under the sun...
      Man, not God up above, thought of slaughter as fun:
      Fly - and perish in flight, flee - and die on the run!

      Raging crowd of dogs, don't you mess with my pack -
      If the scuffle is equal - we'll beat you!
      Life is good to us wolves, and we treasure it back,
      You are dogs - death will properly treat you!

      Let us smile the grin of a wolf at the foe,
      Cutting short any rumours that wrong us.
      But - inscribed as a scarlet tattoo on the snow
      Is the mark: we are wolves no longer!

      To the woods - I may rescue a few of you still.
      To the woods! When you run, you are harder to kill!
      Save the cubs! I am thrashing around, easy prey
      For the gunners, half-drunk, who are eager to slay,
      As I call to the souls of wolves gone astray!..

      The survivors are over the creek, lying low.
      There is naught I can do, being weak and alone!
      I am losing my sight, and my nose is no good...
      Wolves, where are you who used to inhabit the woods?
      Yellow-eyed kith and kin, just where are you, my wolves?!

      ...I live on, but around me I see every day
      Beasts to whom a wolf's cry is unknown.
      These are dogs - distant cousins and earlier prey,
      Once chased down by some of our own.

      I am smiling the grin of a wolf at my foe:
      Rotten splinters of teeth that are long gone.
      And, inscribed as a scarlet tattoo on the snow,
      Fades the mark: we are wolves no longer!

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        Spadecaller1 year, 2 months ago

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        Thanks kobzikov!

        I also like Vladimir Vysotsky. Thanks for posting that poem.

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          Ciera-Marie1 year, 2 months ago

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          kovzikov that is hauntingly beautiful. Thank you for sharing this with us.

          SC thank you for posting another masterpiece.

          Well done both of you.

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          Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago

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          Now why don't you do one about what happens if the hunting is not allowed.

          Too many wolves hunting the moose and caribou.

          Those populations die away.

          Wolves start to starve.

          Sounds like fun. Watch the wolves starve. Watch the little pups die.

          Why do you people think that such things as hunting is allowed.

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            Spadecaller1 year, 2 months ago

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            Endo:

            You are misinformed. The normal balance is being disrupted by aerial hunting. This push to reduce the current wolf population is being motivated for purely selfish human motives. Alaska wants to increase tourism by allowing the Caribou and moose to over populate. Most reputable biologists all agree that the end result of this push to disrupt the traditional balance between the species will ultimately lead to disease and starvation for the caribou, moose, and bear.

            As usual, politicizing the issue has lead to dishonesty by some Alaskan wildlife officials and Sarah Palin's efforts to thwart attempts to ban aerial hunting has nothing to do with conservation.

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              Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago

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              No you are the ignorant one. The balance has been modified by man.

              To control the situation the hunting is allowed by the Alaska Department of Fish and Game. They monitor the wildlife populations just like the similar departments in ALL of the other states. They like ALL of the other states issue hunting licenses to keep the number of the different animals in balance with their food supply. Keep in mind that there are a lot of people who live on moose and caribou. The native American population and those in the far reaches. I guess we should just let the Eskimos starve after the wolves kill off most of the moose and caribou.

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                CRYMTYPHON1 year, 2 months ago

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                "The balance has been modified by man"


                This from someone who will tell you how man-made global warming is a myth!

                But endo is not confused;
                he is attempting to confuse.
                In particular, he is trying to move the subject, from sport-straffing of wolves.

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                  kobzikov1 year, 2 months ago

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                  abntv: "Eskimos did not and do not hunt moose...Eskimos hunted the coastal iceflows for whale and seal. Eskimos did not hunt caribou...they domesticated them and now you have raindeer."

                  Which one of you is the ignorant one, Endo? You or abntv? If it's abntv could you please educate him.

                  By the way if you are interested on where Palin stands on subsistence hunting and fishing for Native Americans here are a couple of links,

                  http://www.nativeamericannetroots.net/showDiary.do...

                  and

                  http://community.freespeech.org/palin_opposes_alas...

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                    jordan111 year, 2 months ago

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                    This argument could go on for days. I see this from palin. She enjoys killing these animals. She participates in it, out of the joy it gives her. If she did it with the pain of having to cull a species, and showed remorse that such a gut wrenching decision had to be taken, I could almost forgive her. But not this. She does this as flippantly as swatting a fly. I really loathe that woman. She's evil. Cold, stone evil.

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                  jordan111 year, 2 months ago

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                  Stalking an animal from a plane, while the animal has no place to hide, & writhes in pain from the buckshot in its back isn't 'hunting'. It's barbaric and it's what cowards do. I know of no hunter who advocates for the freaks who have no respect for the suffering they cause their prey, or who put all the odds in their favor.

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                    jordan111 year, 2 months ago

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                    Sounds like fun. Watch the wolves starve. Watch the little pups die.>>>>

                    What do you think happens to those pups when their mother doesn't come back to the den after some 'tough guy' shoots her in the back from a plane? You have a black soul.

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                      Justice4All1 year, 2 months ago

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                      I guess Dick Cheney is a true sportsman. Only hunts lawyers. The herd needs to be thinned.

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