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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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first the cons say the rasmussen poll is the only one that counts.
but the rasmussen poll has Obama up 8 points. so they can't say that anymore.
so now its zogby. and still, obama's lead is outside the margin of error, however slight.
and mccain is still behind in all the other polls.
yet you sad sad cons are trying to spin this into some sort of victory. as if being behind is something to celebrate.
and now another debate goes to Obama. even pat buchanan said obama won it.
what now cons? how much flailing by you guys do we have to deal with before reality sets in?(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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vor1 year, 2 months ago
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This poll is probably realistic. Obama will not win a landslide by any means. This will be very tight in the end. No one should be feeling the least bit smug at this point.
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dunkirk1 year, 2 months ago
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I dont understand, Bush barely wont he last election and it was called a mandate by the Repugs.
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DeauxNut1 year, 2 months ago
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The only POLL that counts is the one you vote in which oft times doesn't reflect the one sponsored by CNN/DNC and others that are custom picked.
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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hilarious.
already trying to connect CNN and the DNC as if they have anything to do with each other.
and how bout the last Fox poll or Rasmussen (both owned by people on the far right). they both have Obama up 6 points on McCain, which is outside the margin of error.
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SH28551 year, 2 months ago
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You are so right, it been a while since I say anything, but some people's need to get it in their head that the ballgame is almost over with and I'm a black republican and this man just make it to the White house, maybe the next time that we have the power we will not let too many rich people's keep beating the poor people's down all the time, that why you are losing with all this high cost's of living we put on the people's, you should learn to be fair when it come to love.
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Karlyc1 year, 2 months ago
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I did not see anything surprising or unexpected in this poll. Most people remain very uncomfortable with Obama and his policies of raising taxes and slashing national defense. As people begin to focus on the race, it will tighten considerably. Whether that is enough for Palin and McCain to win is another question.
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cleare1 year, 2 months ago
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what "Most people..." are you talking about? the polls clearly say the opposite. don't project your discomfort on others.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 2 months ago
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Propeller is a joke. The facist right wing shills are gaming the system, this story was posted 9 minutes ago and immediately has over 2000 reads, the paid republican shills of propeller/ AOL Time warner are controlling and gaming and cheating the sytem to give the likes of Woofie, the right wing shill, 3 or 4 main topics every day.
And where are the moderators to correct the cheating? Oh year, they're the ones doing the gaming. Reminds me of the justice department felons of the rove regime.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 5) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 2 months ago
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"As people begin to focus on the race, it will tighten considerably. Whether that is enough for Palin and McCain to win is another question."
Right...the people will begin to focus more on the race...too bad McCain and Palin won't focus more on the economic issue. That's what the people want...to hear both Obama's and McCain's views on how they're going to solve this mess.
If McCain and Palin keep trying to distract the voters, they'll just run themselves into the ground. They're going to lose anyway, but why on earth do they want to rush it? They still have almost 3 1/2 weeks...(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 2 months ago
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Possibly, if it was closer.
But Obama must be feeling very confident right now; I doubt he will want to
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dunkirk1 year, 2 months ago
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The question was HOW he was going to solve the mess and help main street. Dropping 700B on buying up bad mortages helps no one but the brokers who handed out the bad mortgages. it still doesnt help the guy on main street who listened tothe brokers about how they COULD afford houses they couldn't. THEY dont get rescued the brokers do. THEY still have to pay the mortgage.
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tschrnywolf1 year, 2 months ago
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WHO ARE "THOSE PEOPLE" , MILLIONAIRES LIKE ROBERTSON, LIMBAUGH AND LEE?OF COURSE THEY FEAR PAYING A FEW MILLIONS.BUT THEY STILL GOT MULTIMILLIONS, SO WHY THE AVARICE?
THEY ALREADY GOT MUCH OF THE BAILOUT, SO WHY WHINE?
TRUE INDEPENDENTS WILL SEE THE JUSTICE AND BALANCE IN OBAMA'S PLANS.
MATURE ADULTS ARE ALREADY FOCUSED. HEY AS IF THE OIL CRISIS AND SEPT. 11TH DID NOT GET THEIR ATTENTION. WHAT PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON?
OBAMA IS NOT "SLASLASHING NATIONAL DEFENSE" AS YOU CLAIM.
RATHER HE SAYS FIGHTING THE REAL TERRORISTS IS THE PRIORITY. HE IS RIGHT. HOLDING SEVERAL WARS SIMULTANEOUSLY IS TOO EXPENSIVE AND DISTRACTS OUR MILITARY.
IT IS KIND OF FUNNY, REALLY, THE FORMER CONSERVATIVE MCCAIN AND ENDORSER OF BUSH'S POLICIES SPEAKS NOW LIKE A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT. QUITE RIDICULOUS :))))(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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antibrainwasher1 year, 2 months ago
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this story posted 9 minutes ago and has over 2000 reads, the AOL/ Time warner/ Propeller right wing shills are gaming the system, and promoting these right wing crap propanda stories to the top of the list.
Where are the system moderators???? Oh yeah, they ARE the right wing shills, paid by propeller management.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 5) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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tschrnywolf1 year, 2 months ago
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WHO ARE "THOSE PEOPLE" , MILLIONAIRES LIKE ROBERTSON, LIMBAUGH AND LEE?OF COURSE THEY FEAR PAYING A FEW MILLIONS.BUT THEY STILL GOT MULTIMILLIONS, SO WHY THE AVARICE?
THEY ALREADY GOT MUCH OF THE BAILOUT, SO WHY WHINE?
TRUE INDEPENDENTS WILL SEE THE JUSTICE AND BALANCE IN OBAMA'S PLANS.
MATURE ADULTS ARE ALREADY FOCUSED. HEY AS IF THE OIL CRISIS AND SEPT. 11TH DID NOT GET THEIR ATTENTION. WHAT PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON?
OBAMA IS NOT "SLASLASHING NATIONAL DEFENSE" AS YOU CLAIM.
RATHER HE SAYS FIGHTING THE REAL TERRORISTS IS THE PRIORITY. HE IS RIGHT. HOLDING SEVERAL WARS SIMULTANEOUSLY IS TOO EXPENSIVE AND DISTRACTS OUR MILITARY.
IT IS KIND OF FUNNY, REALLY, THE FORMER CONSERVATIVE MCCAIN AND ENDORSER OF BUSH'S POLICIES SPEAKS NOW LIKE A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT. QUITE RIDICULOUS :))))(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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Will13131 year, 2 months ago
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some people do that so they can find their comments.. later....
the new system .. even when using the COMMENTS heading on your profile page is hit and miss....
very hard to find your comments later..(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 5) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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Will13131 year, 2 months ago
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some people do that so they can find their comments.. later....
the new system .. even when using the COMMENTS heading on your profile page is hit and miss....
very hard to find your comments later..(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 5) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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"Most people remain very uncomfortable with Obama and his policies of raising taxes and slashing national defense."
If you mean most people *you know* are very uncomfortable (as opposed to declaring that most people in general know and not substantiating your statement whatsoever) then you should say that. ;-((comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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Blackacereturn1 year, 2 months ago
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mesodude - You are soo correct even the talking heads make this mistake, they keep saying the American people doesn't know Obama and i wonder if they have been watching the same presidential race as i have. If the people didn't know Obama as they say he would not be in the lead today!
It boggles the mind that they are those who really think they can change the peoples mind once made up.
Look after the GOP convention McCain took the lead, I said if he ever relinquishes that lead the race is over. The people moving to Obama now will not be swayed by some form of smoke screens and mirrors, it will take something spectacular to make them turn from Obama...as much as he has been investigated i doubt that there is any such thing.
I fear when they say we don't know Obama, they really mean there is no way Obama could get this far and be this clean. They in essence are projecting, their candidate has a wood shed full of bad things and all they have he sat on a board with a known terrorist and Rev Wright, these are things beyond Obamas control, to me it shows character that he has not been influence by the wrong doings around him unlike McCain in the K5 savings and loan mess.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 5) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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memestryker1 year, 2 months ago
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KC, I live in Obama country, and people are very excited about him--many saying they know he'll fix healthcare, that he's pro-women's and gay rights, that it's just time to have an African-American president, that his voice and presence are more presidential, that he'll do more for education, and that he is not anti-science.
They also think he will end the war faster, and raise our global political capital. And in a nearby state that is equally split, he is gaining ground, especially among white women, Asians, and latinos. His real winning local position, however, is his intent to expand all things "green" and promise to create "green" jobs. This is an area with lots of natural resources.
He seems so much like Jimmy Carter that I think a lot of people find him irresistable because of his promises, and they just aren't willing to really examine his history or positions from a philosophical or practical perspective.
I thought last night he looked polished and attractive, his voice was very compelling, and his vocabulary was solid but not pretentious. And he's learned some specific taunts that he used effectively. He also now has solid platform points canned and ready to serve. I think he's still superficial and gives away trade secrets I personally would keep to myself, but the audience mostly hasn't studied the issues enough to recognize this.
I'm not sure it's really about the issues for a lot of people. I remember seeing a documentary on Kennedy and Nixon, where Nixon had the most depth and positions on issues popular with most people, but he simply didn't have the look or the voice.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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DeauxNut1 year, 2 months ago
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What's really scary is that with the democraps ruling capitol hill and a democrap living in the white house most anything will pass without a fight. Be afraid, really afraid.
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dunkirk1 year, 2 months ago
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Yeah after all with teh Repugs in cahrfge we had almost a copmplete financial melt down. We should all be thnakful they gave us that. ROFLMAOWhat planet have you been living on?
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dunkirk1 year, 2 months ago
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If they remain very uncomfortable with Obama what does that say about how they feel for Mccain? Hes behind in EVERY poll.
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Klarissa1 year, 2 months ago
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I look at the realclear polls, Obama has dropped from 6.3 to 5.5.
Obama was so boring tonight.
No matter what the question, he gave the same answers, almost word for word, that he used for the last debate.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 3) (recursion depth : 2) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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ADAGUY1 year, 2 months ago
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Obama was boring? Hell they both put me to sleep!
This one was a waste of my time! (but I had a good nap)(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 2 months ago
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If you don't think McCain's promise to buy everyone's mortgage out was clearly election year BS then you are absolutely blind.
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 2 months ago
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No, I don't think we will.
Because I don't think McCain has a chance in hell of winning this election.
Could any Republican have won? Probably not.
What will happen is Obama will be handed Bush's pi$$-poor economy, he will try like mad to fix it, and will fail, because you can't fix in 4 years what took 8 years to screw up. He will most likely be a one term President, and for twenty or so years afterwords will be blamed for the worst effects of BUSH's economy.......much like Jimmy Carter was.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 9) (recursion depth : 8) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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Blackacereturn1 year, 2 months ago
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Or he could fix it...if you take the best minds in the country and put them to work like Clinton did, you can fix it enough to win the second term. If you put your unqualified buddies like bush did you will only last one term.
Clinton said it best about Obama, I don't know how many of you were listening because the talking heads focused on what he said about Biden and not what he said about Obama.
" Obama will win,Obama will fix this mess Clinton said because he have all the economic minds I had in my office as his advisers. After they advised him he called some other guys and then he called me."
Clinton went on to say that what he like about Obama is he said look, I don't understand this thing so make me understand it...don't tell me what to say to the American people to appease them tell me what needs to be done, make me understand this thing !"
That is what you look for in a leader, one who gathers the best at what they do and ask them instead of just being the decider! It is a sign of a wise person that admits he or she doesn't know and ask those who does. McCain is asking the builder of this mess we are in now for advise. I disagree that Obama will last one term, if he wins, and from the looks of things he will have both houses of congress to work with. I think he will fix this in short order...unless the rich decides to gang up on him and make bad bets...and even that is far fetched because more than anything they like their Money.
Obama can only fail if whites decide they will shoot themselves in the feet to make sure we never elect another black president like they did to Dinkins in NY. It's not a raciest statement it's a fact of the American experience...in the same vane if white America stand by him we will all prosper!(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 10) (recursion depth : 9) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 2 months ago
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Even if the changes Obama institutes fix this economy, it will take time for them to come into play, possibly even after the one term is over. The next Republican hack that goes in will be able to ride high on the economy and take all the credit for it.
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jordan111 year, 2 months ago
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We shall see..>>>
No we won't. But here's something for you to think about; Where the hell do you suppose he would get the money to buy those mortgages? His "freeze" on spending? What spending? It sounds purty, but what is he talking about? Try thinking critically for a change.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 9) (recursion depth : 8) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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tschrnywolf1 year, 2 months ago
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CLARISSA: NOT I CLARISSA, I KEPT AWAKE WHEN SENATOR OBAMA SPOKE. I DOZED OFF WHEN MCCAIN SPOKE
HOW IS HE GOING TO START WARS IF WE ARE BANKRUPT AND CANNOT RE-SUPPLY OUR SOLDIERS? HEY , CHARITY STARTS AT HOME :)
LIKE SENATOR OBAMA SAID, MCCAIN CANNOT PLAY POLICEMAN TO THE ENTIRE GLOB (WALK QUIETLY BUT CARRY A BIG STICK .) HE, MCCRIFLE SAID THOSE EXACT WORDS.) WELCOME TO THE NEW HITLERS, MCPALIN.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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amervtrn1 year, 2 months ago
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Government intervention may lengthen the cycle but it can not stop the boom to bust. The last thing we need is an amateur at the helm,the ship is close enough to sinking without a rookie in charge. I originally posted this before ( about three weeks ago )the Scam Bailout, since then things have accelerated, but that only lengthens the recovery time. In about a year and a half, when the real estate market is at 50 percent, and DOW has stabilized at between 7800-8000, NASDAQ 900-950, S 700-750, it will be the bottom. Then it will be safe to go back. Until then it is a Day trader's market. Gambler's paradise. The bailout is just a waste of resources. In fact it will compound the problem. Much like the physicians of old who would bleed the patient, to give the appearance of action. The Scam Bailout is an action to give the appearance of care and concern, but will in truth deplete needed resources for healing and extend the time required for recovery. We are looking at a very rough 3 to 6 years, according to who is president and how much more Socialistic debt is added.
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nostalgia1 year, 2 months ago
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"The bailout is just a waste of resources"
You are absolutely correct
They are trying to put a floor under the housing market but the effort will fail and only prolong the correction that needs to occur
We will end up with a deeper and longer recession as a result
Also the attention is being focused on foreclosures in the moderately priced homes
There are 1.8 million subprime mortgages that are scheduled to reset to higher rates this year and in 2009 - so-called "jumbo" mortgages, loans higher than $417,000.
In 2009, “prime” foreclosures will become the new front-page news. It turns out that prime loans were just about as rotten as subprime
The few analysts that are talking about the jumbos believe that in 2009 the foreclosures will start to outnumber homes being sold in many areas of the country.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 5) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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Blackacereturn1 year, 2 months ago
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Amervtrn _ Your point would hold water if history didn't say otherwise...under the most seasoned of politicians this nation has suffered the most. Take Nixon for example, and the president name slips my mind at this point, however at the turn of the century he was considered the most seasoned politician in all the land, and turned out to be the worse president we have ever had until Bush! It's those that have not been engulfed by the politics as usual that brings the fresh Ideas to change things.
Take JFK for example he moved this nation forward in his brief time in the office, but his fresh ideas started a revolution in thinking and creation in this country. They said he was too green also.
I think the same was said of Clinton by the first bush and this nation lived through one of it's best economic and global leadership seasons under him. So your point that we some how need an older man with antiquated ideas to fix a problem he help create just doesn't make any sense to those who are truly listening and learning from the candidates!
If we elect McCain we will get more of the same, he has said so in every debate and on the campaign stump. "we should keep the current tax situation and make it predominant" this is the bush tax policy, here is my question, have McCain taken stock of our current economical situation...it's an abysmal failure, to suggest keeping any economic implementation made by bush is to show ones questionable judgment.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 2 months ago
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I disagree amervtrn - I think worse case scenario we are looking 2.5 years for a correction. If Obama gets in and implement his green initiatives (energy) and the rebuilding of our bridges and roadways putting people back to work I think you will see a quick turn around.
What he needs to do if he wins, the next day show up for work give his guys 100 days to show some improvement, 200 to show marked improvement...get the smartest people in the country in each field and pound them until the tides turn. I would even consider Giving Greenspan a six month run while he train his replacement!
The fed chairmans ego got the best of this country...he wanted to distinguish himself so much from Greenspan that he ran rough shots over everything he had put into place.
I am not one that believes that after 8 years you get to blame the guy before you...especially when you had the houses and the presidency for over five years, don't tell me the other guy did it. If you had hired the best people you would have known where the leaks were and stop them...an example, the woman that were in office before Gonzales...she was a C list lawyer at best, and yet she was assigned the highest law position in the land. It's decisions like this that got us into this mess and the character assassination of those that stood up to this freaking president.
If Obama listen which I think he will all will be well in short order! And i think the market will stad at 9700 we will see it stabilize in 2 months or so or even sooner. The panic will end soon.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 5) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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memestryker1 year, 2 months ago
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I actually fell asleep about 3/4 of the way through, so I only saw the replays and will have to watch it OnDemand! I thought the entire affair was pretty low energy, but then I had a long day!
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DeauxNut1 year, 2 months ago
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McCain did an excellent job but not good enough to raise his percentage in the polls. Obama failed miserably by not answering a lot of pre-determined questions but so did McCain, just not as many. McCain was a lot more composed and professional whereas Obama stumbled because he couldn't find his place on his script. McCain scored big when he talked to the guests face to face and shook the hand of the Marine Vet. I would like to hear McCain's answer as to what he actually meant by "That one ..." when referring (?) to Obama.
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AmyIN1 year, 2 months ago
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What you describe as "boring" is in fact Obama's "steady hand at the wheel." - he keeps a cool head and thinks clearly when under pressure. He has the temperment to be a very effective President. You'll never see him make a crackpot remark like McCain did when he - out of the blue - attacked the moderator with "Not YOU Tom"
McCain's heavy, labored breathing into the microphone really creeped me out. It sounded like he was running a marathon, not just having a discussion. It kept reminding me that he might well not last four years and his choice for "second in command" would be in charge of the free world. *shudder*(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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amervtrn1 year, 2 months ago
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Polls are like statistics and accounting statements, not to be believed unless you falsified them your self. Polls were even for Reagan vs Carter, the election was a landslide for Reagan. 487 to 49 electoral votes. Hope we see the same for Mc Cain.
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amervtrn1 year, 2 months ago
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Polls are like statistics and accounting statements, not to be believed unless you falsified them your self. Polls were even for Reagan vs Carter, the election was a landslide for Reagan. 487 to 49 electoral votes. Hope we see the same for Mc Cain. Here is hoping and praying. This no time for an amateur. A rookie at the helm could sink the ship.
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Goppy1 year, 2 months ago
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Well ... at least I didn't have to listen to my fellow Christian Conservatives whine about Liberal bias from the moderator..... like they whined about Gwen Ifil.
And why not?
Tom Brokaw is one of their own.
A Mainstream Media Suit heavily biased to the Right. He's admitted to entering into negotiations with the McCain camp prior to the debates.
More evidence that the Liberal Bias In Media claim is simply a CHEAT .... a Cheat to gain Special Consideration for their candidates and their Morally Vacant Ideology.
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Story posted 9 minutes ago and immediately has over 2000 reads.
The right wing shills paid by Propeller are not even trying to hide the fact they are gaming the story selection.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 3) (recursion depth : 2) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply
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