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Posted By Wolfie2007 1 year, 2 months ago in News

Ayers had to know Obama at a very close level to mention him in his book along with Muhammad Ali and Louis Farrakhan. The book came out in 1998. It takes about 2-3 years to write and publish a book, so this friendship can be placed going back to at least 1995. The evidence comes straight from William Ayers. Read the page at Google Book

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    Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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    It's on page 82 of Ayers' book "A Kind and Just Parent". You can read it for yourselves.

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      Dionys1 year, 2 months ago

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      OH MY GOD!

      I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT OBAMA IS A KIND AND JUST PARENT!

      HOW TRULY AWFUL!

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        Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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        Yeah, and it also means that Obama has lied about Ayers just being a guy in the neighborhood, doesn't it?

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          bobo-in-texas1 year, 2 months ago

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          "I never had a friendship with that man, Mr. Ayers."

          B. Obama

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            djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago

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            Never pal'ed around with him either!

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              fresnodanny1 year, 2 months ago

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              willottica has it right. you're grabbing at straws. writer b obama is a "neighbor" along with several others mentioned without saying they did scrapbooking and worked puzzles in the living room of a cold december evening. how sadly pathetic for a passing reference to be construed as "palling" around.

              now... an all expenses paid bahamanian vacation for the entire mccain family, including babysitter, at the private home of "charlie" keating... is more than a passing mention on page 82 of a book nobody ever heard of.

              as usual, republicans find the miniscule, worthless scrap to chew on and fret over while ignoring the entire side of beef laying there bleeding in the middle of the living room. i'd laugh if you weren't so sickening.

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            willottica1 year, 2 months ago

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            Unless you bothered to take the time to READ the bloody article you posted.

            From the page in question: "Our neighbors include Muhammad Ali, former mayor Eugene Sawyer, poets Gwendolyn Brooks and Elizabeth Alexander, and write Barack Obama."

            In other words, Ayers is describing the guys in the neighborhood.

            This thread is stupid, even for you, Wolfie.

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          Karlyc1 year, 2 months ago

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          This is another Smoking Gun on Obama's lies to the American people.

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            djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago

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            ROTF. Not only is the gun not warm but it's still in it's holster.

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              Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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              Yep, more proof that Ayers and Obama lived in the same neighborhood! SHOCKING!

              Looks like Ayers didn't even know Obama was a state senator. Some 'pal'!

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              willottica1 year, 2 months ago

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              Please do, because Wolfie clearly didn't if he thinks it's in any way incriminating. Here, I'll paste the relevant text for you:
              "Our neighbors include Muhammad Ali, former mayor Eugene Sawyer, poets Gwendolyn Brooks and Elizabeth Alexander, and write Barack Obama."

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                hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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                It is time to start labelling these kinds of smears as what they really are - extremist and anti-american-democracy.

                Obama the Subhuman

                Increasingly, right-wing conservatives and Republican political leaders are issuing dire warnings to the American public that they – and only they – are the legitimate rulers of the United States and the world. This basic contempt for anything but one-party rule is manifested in a number of dire threats repeated by the party, with its members promising the end of Western civilization as we know it if they lose their dominant status in government. A review of Conservative and Republican contempt for bi-partisan politics is in order....

                - On the culture war front, Republicans and conservatives have been unrelenting in their religious fanaticism and racism. Residents of West Virginia and Arkansas have received mailings directly from the Republican National Committee warning that liberals will ban the bible....

                - Right-wing pundits, echoed by major conservative political leaders, have warned that a victory for Barack Obama will be a victory for Islam, radical terrorism, and anti-Americanism....

                - Conservative legal officials have essentially declared war on the Democratic Party, not for violating the law, but due to their own ideological prejudices. Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was recently exposed for allowing politically motivated prosecutions against prominent Democratic political officials....

                None of these right-wing hit jobs or smear tactics should strike voters as merely "more of the same" negative politicking in an election season....

                The Democrats' attempt to appeal across party lines has clearly not been the preferred tactic of the Republican Party. Angry over their likely loss of power in the upcoming election, they have become increasingly desperate in their attacks on the Democrats and the legitimacy of the two party state. This is particularly disturbing at a time when it is becoming harder and harder to discern concrete or substantive differences in the economic policies of the two parties. In reality, Obama and Biden's vague references to "regulation" don't amount to a whole lot when they fail to follow them up with actual policy proposals. That these Democrats are demonized by Republicans as sub-human, dangerous, or terrorist is more a sign of the growing extremism of conservatives than of the moral weakness or treachery of the Democrats. The Democratic Party today may be morally bankrupt, spineless, and bland, but none of those are anywhere near as dangerous as the Republican Party's fundamentalist contempt for multi-party elections and bi-partisan politics.

                http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/09/obama-th...

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                Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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                Obama was a Illinois State Senator in 1998 so why did Ayers say in his book Obama was writer. Obama's book wasn't doing well then and saying a State Senator lived in the neighborhood seems so much more prestigious than having and unknown writer in the neighborhood.

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                  Dionys1 year, 2 months ago

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                  "It takes about 2-3 years to write and publish a book, so this friendship can be placed going back to at least 1995."

                  Maybe he was a writer in 1995?

                  Or even before then if Ayers took a long time to write it.

                  Put on that tin foil hat if you're going to try to party.

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                    Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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                    Dion

                    Then you agree that Obama has lied about his relationship with Ayers? Btw, you missed the point.

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                      djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago

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                      Do you think Barack subscribes to any of the radical views of the Weathermen Underground

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                      Dionys1 year, 2 months ago

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                      " Then you agree that Obama has lied about his relationship with Ayers? Btw, you missed the point."

                      I don't know what Obama has specifically said about Ayers, other than the fact that he met him when he was a College professor somewhere around 1995. Considering that the internet wasn't wholely put together as we know it today in 1995, I wonder how Obama would have known about his relationship with the Weathermen (since I doubt any of you would have known without google) when he met him as a COLLEGE PROFESSOR.

                      I've served on boards and not known everything about everyone on the board, nor have I been friends with everyone on the board. I've had dinner parties thrown for me by people I don't consider close friends.

                      As for what Ayers wrote about Obama, all it says is that Ayers did some research about a person for his book. Which doesn't require them to be close friends. Does it?

                      You people will grasp at anything.

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                    Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                    "...why did Ayers say in his book Obama was writer. " Just a guess: Perhaps because he didn't know Obama well enough to know he was a State Legislator?

                    That would be the simplest answer.

                    Of course, here's what REALLY happened: Obama knew he was going to run for president eventually, so he and his best friend Ayers got together secretly to devise a plan to disguise their friendship. They would never be seen in public together, except at board meetings. They would never admit their BFF status and their wives and other friends would take a blood oath never to reveal anything. This they swore at a midnight Muslim ceremony by the light of burning American flags and discarded fetuses (some of them not quite dead). But it was too much for Ayers! He just HAD to mention Obama in his book. At least he remembered to PRETEND he didn't know Obama was a State Senator.

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                      Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                      Wow, did that one fall flat, or what?

                      My apologies!

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                    sarahturner1 year, 2 months ago

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                    Interesting submission Wolfie2007, thanks.

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                      antibrainwasher1 year, 2 months ago

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                      Palin tries to hire terrorist, terrorist supports McCain:

                      Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents.

                      Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy’s radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled “John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07? includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an “old friend.” During the segment, McCain praised Liddy’s “adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,” said he was “proud” of Liddy, and said that “it’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program.”

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                      cybotot1 year, 2 months ago

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                      Ayers probably wandered into Obama's front hall, took off his jacket and boots, put on his sweater and tennis shoes and started singing "Its a wonderful day in the neighborhood, a wonderful day in the neighborhood, won't you be my neighbor? Oh wait that was Mr. Roger's wasn't it, or was it Obama in Ayers front hall, or was it Eddie Murphy as Mr. Rogers? Yea, I always forget just how well I know my neighbors too. Hope Obama doesn't forget and pick up the red phone if he ever has to order pizza at 3 AM in the D.C. neighbor Hood.

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                        djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago

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                        I know alot of people who lives in my neighborhood, but I can't say I pal around with any of them.

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                          Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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                          djn
                          Do they write books and mention you in them. No, I didn't think so. lol

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                            Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                            I don't know, they might have. Most know my name and would likely refer to "John, the guy who puts that same damn flashing peace sign on his yard every Christmas."

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                          antibrainwasher1 year, 2 months ago

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                          You yellow bellied coward con children would rather talk about anything else but the republican caused collapse of the economy due to republian greed and ignorance and inability to regulate or govern.

                          Swiftboating slime repugnicon morons would rather talk about anything but how their neocon base and handlers murdered 5000 american soldiers for a neocon lie.

                          Rebublicans are showing themselves devoid of any honor, integrety, honesty or courage by admitting they have destroyed the economy, and moving on from there.

                          Cowards deny and then swiftboating with their lying ad hominem attacks, its obvious and pathetic. Republicowards.

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                            antibrainwasher1 year, 2 months ago

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                            Baby killer McCain who dropped napalm on villages burning alive children and then calling himself a hero, is a right wing senile cowboy, unfit for command, and read this breaking news:

                            McCain served on the advisory board to the U.S. chapter of an international group linked to ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America.

                            The U.S. Council for World Freedom aided rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua. That landed the group in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which revoked the charitable organization's tax exemption.

                            The council created by retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub was the U.S. chapter of the World Anti-Communist League, an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. After setting up the U.S. council, Singlaub served as the international league's chairman.

                            McCain's tie to Singlaub's council is undergoing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Obama for his link to Ayers, a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago. Over the weekend, Democratic operative Paul Begala said on ABC's "This Week" that this "guilt by association" tactic could backfire on the McCain campaign by renewing discussion of McCain's service on the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, "an ultraconservative right-wing group."

                            This is what McCain did when he was a SENATOR. Clearly, McCain is devoid of judgement, and is a right wing warmonger.

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                              antibrainwasher1 year, 2 months ago

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                              Did anybody see McCains Blonde Heiress start whining and swiftboating like some stepford robot.....

                              Woman never worked a day in her life, and she's trying to be Jane six pack.

                              Sara evangelical creationist witchburning bookburning Palin and the Beer Heiress Stepford 2nd wife of McSenile, the whole lot is pathetic, the republican ticket is discusting......

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                                antibrainwasher1 year, 2 months ago

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                                alaskareport.com — Sarah Palin thought it was a good idea to hire Liddy to promote drilling in ANWR. Did she know Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary, wiretapping, contempt of court and contempt of Congress; was willing to kill a janitor and a journalist as part of the Watergate break-in; admitted plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution? Kidnap plans?

                                You con moron hypocrites are living in a glass house.

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                                  buckncindykill1 year, 2 months ago

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                                  You must be an operative for the Obama campaign. No one that says the things you do are so stupid to believe them. Con moron hypocrites?

                                  It's time to join the human race, and quit wallowing in the dung of your existence.

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                                    fresnodanny1 year, 2 months ago

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                                    you just typed out your ignorance for the whole world to see. wow!

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                                      Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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                                      fresn, no that was you. lol

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                                        hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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                                        Yep. The GOP works hard to keep them dumb, poor and docile. But Palin's corruption connections go beyond just Liddy.

                                        Palin's Lobbyist Has Abramoff Ties

                                        It looks like Sarah Palin's claim to represent a cleaner brand of politics could be about to take a bruising.

                                        The Washington Post reports today that, while Mayor of Wasilla, Palin oversaw the hiring of a lobbyist, Steven Silver -- a former chief of staff to now-indicted GOP senator Ted Stevens -- to help win federal earmarks for the city.

                                        But Silver appears to have additional ties that could further undercut Palin's image as a squeaky-clean reformer. According to Senate lobbying disclosure reports examined by TPMmuckraker, from 2002 to 2004 Silver listed as a client Jack Abramoff's lobbying firm, Greenberg Traurig. On Greenberg's behalf, Silver lobbied the federal government on "issues relating to Indian/Native American policy," "exploration for oil and gas" and "legislation relating to gaming issues" -- the very issues that Abramoff headed up for Greenberg at the time. In other words, Silver appears to have been a part of "Team Abramoff."...

                                        http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/...

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                                          buckncindykill1 year, 2 months ago

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                                          Boy, talk about digging and stretching. Let's just go after her ancestors too. After all, they MUST have been shady as well.

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                                    Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                                    Hold on a sec:

                                    "Ayers had to know Obama at a very close level to mention him in his book along with Muhammad Ali and Louis Farrakhan." So Ayers was 'pals' with Ali and Farrakhan and all the other people he mentions as well? Ayers was listing people who lived nearby to show the character of the neighborhood. I don't see where he talks about Obama as a parent at all.

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                                      NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago

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                                      OMG! OMG ! OMG!

                                      wow. what tripe. the cons are really getting desperate. talk about low on ammo.

                                      since Muhammad Ali is also mentioned, does that mean he's a terrorist too?

                                      and does that mean everyone Ayers mentioned in the liner notes is also a terrorist, like his publisher, his manager, his agent, people who helped gather info, the guy who got coffee, etc?

                                      really stooooooopid.

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                                        fsev411 year, 2 months ago

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                                        Well, No Way, it looks the whole neighborhood must be terrorists. Would you call the FBI or CIA. I'll go down there with my binoculars and keep an eye on them. I'll need some help as soon as possible because we also have to worry about all those anti-American members of that church he went to. Better call out the militia. This thing could blow at any moment.

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                                        vor1 year, 2 months ago

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                                        The ultimate stupidity but look at who backs this nonsense! If you can't win on the issues slander is then acceptable? Clearly these men were not close friends or associates. And this Challenge, the Annenberg Challenge was sponsored by the Annenbergs (i.e. Walter Annenberg), one of the leading conservative families in America and supporters of John McCain. So were they hanging out with terrorists? And does this mean John McCain's supporters support terrorists? By the same logic Wolfie and others on this page are using, yes. They can't even see the complete fallability of their argument. The rest of their argument is a matter of semantics which crumbles with even the slightest perusal. But what should we really expect from the Right? Their policies have failed miserably, they have to divert from the issues of the day.

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                                          Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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                                          vor

                                          Just trying to get the truth out but guess you're way to gone to see it.

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                                            hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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                                            The truth huh Wolfie? Guess you will welcome this story about Palin supporting terrorists just last year.

                                            The Palins' un-American activities

                                            "My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."

                                            This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.

                                            Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that's the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. ("Keep up the good work," Palin told AIP members. "And God bless you.")

                                            So who are these America-haters that the Palins are pallin' around with?

                                            Party founder Vogler preached armed insurrection against the United States of America. Vogler, who always carried a Magnum with him, was fond of saying, "When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets....

                                            ...Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.

                                            That's right ... Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran....

                                            http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/08/the-pali...

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                                              vor1 year, 2 months ago

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                                              So the truth is not that the Annenbergs also associated with Ayres? That by your insinuations (and those of your candidates)they are also terrorism supporters? To see Palin last night on H was to see a truly pathetic politician. One willing to insinuate anything. No proof required. This is not America...

                                              There is no truth here because if you twist and turn the words as you please, they provide the message you desire, not the factual truth.

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                                            ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 2 months ago

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                                            Is Ayers friends with Ali, as well, Cons?

                                            This sounds like the literary equivalent of having foreign policy experience because you can see Russia from your backyard porch.

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                                              Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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                                              con
                                              He may well be they all fit into his ideology, hate America. Although, I really don't care who Ayers is friends with I only care that Obama lied about being friends with Aryers.

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                                                Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                                                You have yet to provide any evidence they were friends.

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                                                  fsev411 year, 2 months ago

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                                                  Tang, have you ever seen the Wolfman provide viable evidence for any of his stupid accusations?

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                                              VocalOp1 year, 2 months ago

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                                              Good try. Ignorant and uneducated Republicans will eat this up like it's possum pie.

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