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Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 1 month ago in Political NewsMcCain-Palin rally-goers tell us they believe Barack Obama is a terrorist.
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Aidenag1 year, 1 month ago
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Only 80 years ago, German oligarchs thought they could control the "crazies" for their own political and financial power. Look where that got them. Too many oligarchs in the US are playing the same dangerous game.
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As their desperation increases, expect the GOP to get uglier still.
Obama the Subhuman
Increasingly, right-wing conservatives and Republican political leaders are issuing dire warnings to the American public that they – and only they – are the legitimate rulers of the United States and the world. This basic contempt for anything but one-party rule is manifested in a number of dire threats repeated by the party, with its members promising the end of Western civilization as we know it if they lose their dominant status in government. A review of Conservative and Republican contempt for bi-partisan politics is in order....
- On the culture war front, Republicans and conservatives have been unrelenting in their religious fanaticism and racism. Residents of West Virginia and Arkansas have received mailings directly from the Republican National Committee warning that liberals will ban the bible....
- Right-wing pundits, echoed by major conservative political leaders, have warned that a victory for Barack Obama will be a victory for Islam, radical terrorism, and anti-Americanism....
- Conservative legal officials have essentially declared war on the Democratic Party, not for violating the law, but due to their own ideological prejudices. Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was recently exposed for allowing politically motivated prosecutions against prominent Democratic political officials....
None of these right-wing hit jobs or smear tactics should strike voters as merely "more of the same" negative politicking in an election season....
The Democrats' attempt to appeal across party lines has clearly not been the preferred tactic of the Republican Party. Angry over their likely loss of power in the upcoming election, they have become increasingly desperate in their attacks on the Democrats and the legitimacy of the two party state. This is particularly disturbing at a time when it is becoming harder and harder to discern concrete or substantive differences in the economic policies of the two parties. In reality, Obama and Biden's vague references to "regulation" don't amount to a whole lot when they fail to follow them up with actual policy proposals. That these Democrats are demonized by Republicans as sub-human, dangerous, or terrorist is more a sign of the growing extremism of conservatives than of the moral weakness or treachery of the Democrats. The Democratic Party today may be morally bankrupt, spineless, and bland, but none of those are anywhere near as dangerous as the Republican Party's fundamentalist contempt for multi-party elections and bi-partisan politics.
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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That is typical of Bush and McCain supporters. They don't have a clue who the candidates are or what they stand for so the Republican strategy is fill their little minds with lies to repeat to other idiots.
On a lighter side, I'm sure I saw the blond, that kept getting in front of the camera, stone drunk in a bar on the north side of Strongsville.near W.Sprague Rd. LMAO In fact I think she looked a little tipsy in the video -
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mark-stevens1 year, 1 month ago
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The owner of Paul Mitchell haircare products used to belong to a gang noted for murder and drug dealing, the Hell's Angels... this year PM will do 700 million... nobody cares.
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Some of PETA members have been sent to jail for terrorism... nobody cares.
Ayres, a collage professor, 40 years ago belonged to the Weathermen... just a few care about that, or is that an excuse to try and keep a black man from being president.
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Neophile1 year, 1 month ago
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Don't miss part 2:
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Tcaros1 year, 1 month ago
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It's amazing when you ask people like this to support their opinion with an explanation or fact. They'll stare at you with a dull blank look like "you gotta be kiddin me." They'll bark out "Ah, well you know- that Obama is a muslim."
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They actually beleive crap like that. It's amazing they can find food to eat and wipe their hineys. If they were in the wild they wouldn't survive for lack af any thinking skills.-
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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My guess is that it's because they've never learned to put together a rational argument. If all you're taught all your life is to believe whatever authority figures tell you, then It must be hard to break out. We take it for granted that anyone should be able to debate and argue, but for them argue probably has only one meaning: argue = fight.
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This is not restricted to stupid people. The son of one of my colleagues is a fundamentalist Christian. I've met him a few times, and he is a bright young man. One day my colleague told me that her son had dropped his psychology course in university because it includes evolution and he doesn't believe in it. At first I didn't know what she was talking about. What has belief got to do with anything in a university course? Nobody is asking him to believe in anything. All he has to do is learn what the theories of others are, who says what and why, how they support their theories, etc. It took me some time to understand that he approached all learning as he approached religion. The main criterion for any knowledge was whether he believed in it or not.
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Charlson1 year, 1 month ago
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Most people are followers, a few are leaders and then there is the rest. Those, who question why things are the way they are and if it's bad, change it or if it's just okay, try to find ways to improve it.
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These folks are obviously followers who will not question their societal belief system even if it's crumbling around them. Sort of like race horses with blinders on and forced to see only one way. -
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traveler20001 year, 1 month ago
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"...... you're taught all your life is to believe whatever authority figures tell you,....."
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Wait a moment, isn't that one of the pillars of "communism".....
I thought one of the pillars of democracy (and US America) was that you should be free to question authority AND should be able to argue......??
But of course, being a "stupid" liberal I must be wrong.
We ALL know only democrat presidents and leaders lie, NOT republicans.....-
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cloud151 year, 1 month ago
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That IS the base of democracy. Open and free debate about whatever you want when ever you want. Its how democracy works. Its a marketplace of ideas, and the arguments and debating allows we the people to weed out the bad ideas. When the arguments cease, so does democracy.
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traveler20001 year, 1 month ago
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My point exactly.
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However, some people (and I'm afraid most, NOT all, of them on the "republican side") seem to forget that.
It seems to me that a lot of "republicans" (again not all, but seamanly most), never come with arguments, but only with slogans:
UNPATRIOTIC (e.g. when against the war in Iraq. And by the way, being against the war in Iraq doesn't mean you do not support the soldiers, actually, far from it, we do support the troops, NOT the people sending them.)
SOCIALIST
COMMUNIST
MARXIST
BABY KILLER
"she's a WOMAN" (so????)
He's BLACK (sorry, African American) ... So??????
etc......
All slogans, but not arguments or real discussion..... Some times both sides might have real good points, even on the same item, but at least we should have a real exchange of views, rather than unsubstantiated slogans.
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Will13131 year, 1 month ago
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JohnGault1 year, 1 month ago
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You realize will you are the mirror image of the lunatics you wail against. NEVER questioning your party stance. Just a loyal subject of the democratic party. Always justifying bad behavior by pointing to other side bad behavior. The same can be said of the people you mentioned. We will never elevate the conversation until we start with better dialogue.
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Will13131 year, 1 month ago
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cloud151 year, 1 month ago
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You seem to be new here so let me explain the rules.
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1.) Choose a side, there is no such thing as a middle ground.
2.) Learn the rhetoric and talking points of your side.
3.) Disregard any facts from the other side as "propaganda".
4.) Regard all propaganda from your side as "facts".
5.) Pull up any dirt on the opposing side regardless of validity.
6.) Yell, shout and curse at the opponents, it will show them who is right.
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JohnGault1 year, 1 month ago
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My point is that the loony right has a mirror image on the left. pushing the conversations to the extremes doesn't get us anywhere. Just as the right pushes its moral agenda on its political figures, the left does the same, both are wrong. But as long as both sides just shout at each other I don't see the point. Just as I alluded to above " with the barking dog" your only preaching to the choir
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Codi69341 year, 1 month ago
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People call Bush/Cheney murderers, war criminials. So what is the difference? It is all a matter of opinion. Which the last I checked was not against the law. Unlike some death threats I have seen on here about a sitting President. But back on track. I don't think he is a terrorist but I do believe he is a terrorist sympathizer. Which makes him more dangerous. He can use his power, influence and the law to stop/start investigations or make it harder to conduct investigations on terrorist cells/activities. All you have to do is read his books or see his past. He is drawn to the marxist/anti-American part of this society. It would not be hard to believe that his actions could aid( most likely unknownly) and event in this country that could be dangerous. But him thinking that he was helping the little guy, that the big bad govt. was unfairly targeting you because your group sent money to Hamas, Islamic Jihad, ect. That is a chance we can' afford to take!!
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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Codi6934: "All you have to do is read his books or see his past. He is drawn to the marxist/anti-American part of this society."
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Have you read his books? What does he write in them that leads you to the conclusion that he is "drawn to the marxist/anti-American part of this society"? -
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dissent1 year, 1 month ago
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"People call Bush/Cheney murderers, war criminials. So what is the difference? It is all a matter of opinion."
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the difference? a little thing called evidence.... like a million or so dead. it's not a matter of opinion. it's a matter of the difference between truth and lies and justice to be served -
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 1 month ago
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Having your own opinion is not against the law, in that you are correct. However, last time I checked, invading Iraq violated international law, therefore making Bush/Cheney WAR CRIMINALS.
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You are a serious trip....You have absolutely NO BASIS WHATSOEVER besides maybe a few twisted biased blogs to fuel your anti-Obama opinions (which are either anti-democrat or racist). You're just as partisan as the next guy, I don't know who you think you're fooling.-
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Codi69341 year, 1 month ago
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I will address all of you, One at a time.
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librtyordeath / dissent: Read UN 1441, this war is legal and justified. It started in 91 not 03. How short is your memory. I have written enough in the last two years I am tired of repeating myself. If your would read my comment again I was talking about opinions. Everything I wrote was my opinion based on what I have read and heard. Is it because I am not voing for a black man, you think I am racist. That is just what you liberals would love to beleive. I know more life long Democrats not voting for that reason. Us conservatives like to stick with the issues. Sorry, blew that theory.
Candida / bruhaha: All you need to do is look at his "friends, mentors". If McCain "friends" were of the same caliber. He would be accused of being a card carrying member of the Klan. This Big"O" fever is so bad that people are willing to ignore his past to put him in the WH. Posters pictures of him have him in the same format as Che. This is unreal. It looks like lemmings on the move. Just watch that last step boys and girls!!!-
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dissent1 year, 1 month ago
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"Read UN 1441, this war is legal and justified. It started in 91 not 03. How short is your memory."
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this is such a lame tired and completely b*llshit argument that rice kept peddling and nobody was buying. you use the un to justify a..... wait for it....... UNILATERAL vigilante illegal war!!!! how does that work?
the only thing THAT has anything to do with the un are the first 2 letters. nobody anywhere bought the 1441 baloney except a bunch of neocons and their flock of braindead sheep. so give it up, it's 2008 already and that story still hasn't found traction after more than 5 years. next you'll be one of those who still throws out that simpleton sh*t about how saddam moved the wmds even though bush says there were none........ jeesh.-
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Codi69341 year, 1 month ago
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The last I checked we had a coalition of forces that invaded Iraq with us.
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I am right ,you now it, get over it!!
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908900.html
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 1 month ago
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Unless he's pulling the "I'm a bigger Christian than you are" card.
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I don't like to get into these religion debates, but I think it goes worth saying here:
All Christianity is formed based on a few core principles which are followed based on faith. Faith that one day, they will be able to meet God and show them that they followed his teachings and rules and lived a good life and are able to enter heaven.
No matter which way you try and spin it, we all KNOW what those basic rules are. And the fact is, heaven is the ultimate "no-spin zone". No "faulty intelligence" excuses are going to work up there.
I guess, in short, what I'm trying to say is, one day, George W. Bush WILL meet his maker, just like everybody else. And he won't be able to spin opinion one way or the other, or attack God's patriotism for not supporting him. He WILL be judged according to his deeds.
And I think anyone with any experience with Christianity knows how Bush will be judged.
"Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore, Jesus don't like killin', no matter what it's for,"
-John Prine
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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Baby Killer McCain, dropping napalm incindery bombs from 10,000 feet, burning children alive, is a war hero? If anything, he's an incompetent pilot, since he got shot down for his murdering efforts by people who didn't want their children burned alive for another lie that communists were taking over the world. And if I'm not mistaken, McCain and his admiral daddy lost the lie and lost the war.
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Senator McCain, back as a war baby killing hero, then clawed his way onto a board of an organization which sponsered death squads in Latin America, again to fight the workers, who were tired of the children of rich families inheriting everything, while their children starved, but instead of turning to the baby jesus and hoping for a better afterlife, they wanted to get just a little better life for their children, but McCain can't let the rich spend a penny, so he had the squads murder and kidnapp and terrorise and otherwise capatalize the latin countries, and then bought their drugs to sell to americans, raising money for arms to sell back to the terrorists.
Palin was begging G Gordon Liddy, a convicted felon and terrorist for hire by Nixon, to be her campaign manager. -
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picvegita1 year, 1 month ago
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People refuse to think critically, people accept information from any source and believe it as fact, why don't people stop take some time to think and figure out what issues matter most to you.
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Instead people use fear or let fear of change guide their actions, if we don't grow as a people then we are going to repeat our problems (gas crisis, ignorance about eco impact, denying basic human rights due to who someone loves)
If you want to vote McCain more power to you that is your choice, but do it because you believe in his policies not because you are fearful of the other candiates middle name!-
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
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wonderful insight picvegita.
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I have an agenda. It is truth.
Truth is simplistic and unchangeable. Nothing can change the fact that I started to write this reply even if I never post it. The truth is that I started. And nothing else can ever change that.
When party hacks begin to support their candidate by claiming information about the other they are not really speaking about why their candidate is superior. It usually means that they can't match the promise of the other.
But the truth is, neither candidate is clean as driven snow.
I am an Independent. I do recognize the mudslinging directed toward Obama by a party that has been the most corrupt and criminal over our countries history. It is the truth that our economic mess was aided by both parties, but it is also the truth that the Republican party deserves more blame than the Democrats. They were in power for the first 6 years and had a majority in both the Senate and House. They could pass any legislation they wanted to.
And they did. They got rid of the constraints regulating the Financial Industry that was passed after the Great Depression - to protect the public against exactly what has happened to our economy. Any the result is laid bare for all to see.
The previous big time melt downs in the Financial Industry were led by two most notable events the one in the 70's led by Neil Bush ( yeah that the same Bush family ) and the one in the late 80's that was brought about by a group called the Keating Five and if memory serves me right, there was a Senator John McCain involved with that.
Now this one brought about by a revocation of the Great Depression regulations called the Glass Stegall Act, the person who wrote the legislation to undo Glass Stegall was a Senator Phil Graham, as of late John McCain's Financial Manager.
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Wolfie20071 year, 1 month ago
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Yeah, truth would be a wonderful identifier if Obama would practice telling the truth.
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Btw, Obama is now saying he knew Ayers was a terrorist but he assumed he had been rehabilitated. Check it out, he said it today. I'm sure you can catch it on the news tonight.-
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Charlson1 year, 1 month ago
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Why did you respond to Cham with dribble if you're not going to discuss what he was talking about? Reflection is a poor tool in a debate. Any thoughts about mudslinging, the Republican agenda during Bush's first six years, deregulation, the Keating 5 or the Glass Stegall legislation and Phil Gramm?
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techsupport1 year, 1 month ago
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I watched this video, along with "part 2" from the same guy. I've decided I'm not going to prop the article.
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I was expecting to see some of the angry folks who spoke up from the crowd at the recent Waukesha, WI McCain/Palin town hall appearance. I thought, from the article's title that there might be more than I saw from this on the evening news. Instead it's some guy with a video camera trolling for loonies in the crowd after a campaign stop in Ohio. The only remarkable thing about this video is that he didn't find all that many people who were willing to say really outlandish things in front of his camera. Most people seemed to want to avoid him, and even a few of them tried to bring up some issues. At one point he even stopped the vid to highlight the answer from someone's child. That seemed pretty sleazy to me.
Look, I know there are plenty of "sheep" types out there who don't do their homework on issues, and select their candidates for flimsy reasons. I believe the same can be said for equal numbers of Obama and McCain supporters. I don't have much respect for these types of people regardless of their political choices.
At this point we've become a deeply divided country. I see this type of partisan "baiting" as problem rather than solution. We're all guilty of it to some degree (myself included), but I feel like the source story here was a particularly egregious display. In fact, the guy with the camera might have been doing more to reinforce this whole "terrorist" nonsense than dispel it, not unlike the New Yorker magazine cover did earlier this year. -
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
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Wolfie, I'm interested in what is good for America. McCain and his bunch have long ago removed any doubt that they are corrupt to the bone. This bunch is not good for America.
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Directing mud toward Obama or any one else who opposes the creeps is standard for this group. Their shame is infinite.
And you want to support them.
I used to be a Republican. But I'm ashamed of what has become of the Grand Old Party. It is no longer worth an epithet. I am an Independent and would like to see others join in building a coalition of Independents. We need to get rid of the Two Party System.
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jovial1 year, 1 month ago
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The Republican Dynasty just like our economy is in steep decline. Many will be angered by this. They feel that the party they have now is not the party that they really wanted. They really want a much more conservative candidate. The problem is that a true really to the right conservative like Rush Limbaugh or Michelle Malkin, etc, wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected. This is a two-sided coin. Kuccinich wouldn't get elected either. The people that find themselves neare the edges, whether it be libertarian, populist, conservative, or liberal, will always be disenfranchised. Most people want something of a compromise in the middle. They don't want the entire country leaning too far in any direction. Here's where the biggest problem lies in my opinion. Most candidates rally their base during the primaries and afterwards move back to the center to gain the "independent votes". If a candidate stays at the point where he just rallies to his base, He is doomed to lose. Republicans are angry now because they have a candidate that really doesn't represent their views and a VP candidate that should be running for PTA president instead of VP of the United States of America. The other candidate that has any hope at winning is to "liberal" for them. So they are holding their coleective noses and voting for McCain. On the same token the Democrats (the most liberal ones) would have surely wanted Kuccinich to win over Obama. That didn't happen unfortunately and they must also hold their collective noses and vote for someone that is not as "liberal" as one might think. Will people get angry on both sides? I think yes, this site is a but a microcosm of the general population. No matter who is elected some will feel disenfranchised. The tactic that McCain is using (personal attacks) are not benefitting his efforts as much as it should because of the shallowness of it. He doesn't have much time to re-evaluate these tactics and assess whether it's helping or hurting his campaign. He has one more debate. If he turns it into a massive personal attack against Obama the repercussions can be massive. He's really got to consider his position on using this tactic since he is already down in the polls.
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jordan111 year, 1 month ago
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Today they showed McCain at some gathering, & a woman started babbling about Obama being an Arab. "No ma'm", McCain said. He said Obama was a good man, blah blah blah. Again, someone made a comment about Obama being a terrorist, and again Mccain said no he was a good man. He got booed, by his own base. His own incredibly ignorant base.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
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Yes Jordan, I saw that. I looked at my wife and said "That woman is accusing Obama of being an Arab", can you believe the ignorance of the ditto heads and the other faithful?
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Obama is a mixed race black / white, as I recall his father was a Kenyan ( not an Arab ) and his mother was an American. He was born in Hawaii and is therefore an American.
And what if he was an Arab? Does that make him a bad person or a non-American? What would be bad about being an Arab? Or an American Indian, Irish?
Palin and some of the Republicans are obviously not too bright. Excuse me, McCain is not all that bright either. They pale in Obama's light.
BTW I'm an old white Southern male. I am an Independent. Support neither the Republican nor the Democratic Party. Those Parties are corrupt to the core.
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