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    jovial1 year, 1 month ago

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    I know hyper. There is an attack on the voters of this country and people just aren't saying anything about it. The Republicans are losing and they have started to attack the voters. This is a coup de'tat on our Democracy. People seem to feel that the latest Palin story is more important this is really sad.

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      hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago

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      Jovial, put a bit more in the summaries of your stories. Many people will read your summaries even if they don't go to the origianl source and read the whole article.

      FTA

      ...No concrete evidence of systemic voter fraud in the United States has ever surfaced. Many election integrity experts believe claims of voter fraud are a ploy by Republicans to suppress minorities and poor people from voting.

      Historically, those groups tend to vote for Democratic candidates. Raising red flags about the integrity of the ballots, experts believe, is an attempt by GOP operatives to swing elections to their candidates as well as an attempt to use the fear of criminal prosecution to discourage individuals from voting in future races.

      In March, the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration held a hearing and heard testimony from election integrity experts who said voter fraud is a “myth” and voter identification laws actually disenfranchise legitimate voters.

      Indeed, in a column published in the Washington Post last year, Justin Levitt, an attorney and expert on voting issues who teaches at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law, and Jeff Milyo, a professor at the University of Missouri-Columbia department of economics, said "the notion of widespread voter fraud... is itself a fraud. Evidence of actual fraud by individual voters is painfully skimpy."

      ACORN has long been a target of Republican Party operatives dating as far back as the 2004 presidential election. But the accusations of malfeasance have never been supported by evidence....

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        Natureboy1 year, 1 month ago

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        "...No concrete evidence of systemic voter fraud in the United States has ever surfaced. Many election integrity experts believe claims of voter fraud are a ploy by Republicans to suppress minorities and poor people from voting."

        The author apparently hasn't read Greg Palast's expose, "The Best Democracy Money can Buy."

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        Grrr1 year, 1 month ago

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        I seem to recall that the GOP coup d'etat of the American Republic actually occurred back in 2000. Reinforced in 2004. 2008 -- more of the same. If the poll margins are so extreme come November that they can't steal it believably, something will occur that will cause the election to be "postponed". If that happens, see you in DC. You bring the torch, I've got a pitchfork.

        Stay tuned, if they'll let you.

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          not2needy1 year, 1 month ago

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          I'm with you Grrr, they can't just keep doing this sh!t and getting away with it.

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            bigurn1 year, 1 month ago

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            Yes, if we lose a legal election, let's burn the place to the ground. Intimidate others into letting us have our way, despite democratic principles which suggest otherwise.

            There's a new book out called "Slouching Toward Socialism". Perhaps you've read it?

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              Charlson1 year, 1 month ago

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              Your premis is faulty when you use the words "legal election". We're discussing "illegal elections". Now if you'd said the legal election process was illegally manipulated, then I'd agree with you 100%.

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                hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago

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                Well bigurn, we have known for sure for several years now that the US Supreme Court not only violated that Constitution in 2000, but also awarded the presidency to a fraud. Remember the repubs assualting the polling stations then?

                From Research in Review Magazine, Florida State University, Fall/Winter 2005:

                Al Gore really did beat George W. Bush in 2000.

                ... It’s an embarrassing outcome for George Bush because it showed that Gore had gotten more votes. Everybody had thought that the chads were where all the bad ballots were, but it turned out that the ones that were the most decisive were write-in ballots where people would check Gore and write Gore in, and the machine kicked those out. There were 175,000 votes overall that were so-called “spoiled ballots.” About two-thirds of the spoiled ballots were over-votes; many or most of them would have been write-in over-votes, where people had punched and written in a candidate’s name. And nobody looked at this, not even the Florida Supreme Court in the last decision it made requiring a statewide recount. Nobody had thought about it except Judge Terry Lewis, who was overseeing the statewide recount when it was halted by the U.S. Supreme Court. The write-in over-votes have really not gotten much attention. Those votes are not ambiguous. When you see Gore picked and then Gore written in, there’s not a question in your mind who this person was voting for. When you go through those, they’re unambiguous: Bush got some of those votes, but they were overwhelmingly for Gore. For example, in an analysis of the 2.7 million votes that had been cast in Florida’s eight largest counties, The Washington Post found that Gore’s name was punched on 46,000 of the over-vote ballots it, while Bush’s name was marked on only 17,000....

                http://www.rinr.fsu.edu/winter2005/features/battle...

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            bigurn1 year, 1 month ago

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            Voter involvement is very important. Voter fraud is a crime.

            Just last night, the US District Court found Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner in violation of election law. It's the SECOND TIME. She's appealing of course, but she is trying to register people who don't show credentials.

            ACORN has three arms: 1) Voter registration, 2) Mortgage and Finance and 3) Community activism. They have been investigated for fraud and convicted many times of registering people under false names, registering dead people, etc. etc. They claim that "they can't be expected to get every one right".

            ACORN also pressured Fannie and Freddie with NAACP-style boycotts if they did not provide mortgages to people who clearly had no business getting a mortgage. I can cite the specific legal cases when I get time.

            ACORN's community activism arm is generally their mouthpiece. The say that their activities aren't illegal, and that a ubiquitous "they" is out to get them.

            The "they" in this case is the Judicial System, because ACORN is engaging in illegal activity. The sad thing is that by thwarting the system, they hold down the very people they purport to prop up. This is because it's all about power for them. They are funded by the government (which will hopefully end soon), and it's raining money on them.

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              hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago

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              Well, this is the latest GOP scam on voters bigurn. By now Americans should be smart enough not to fall for the GOP frauds.

              GOP's ACORN 'Voter Fraud' Scam Rolls Out In MO

              Remember yesterday when we told you about the transcript of the Fox & Friends show yesterday morning, discussing the bogus raid of an ACORN office in Las Vegas, and then implying "more" ACORN "voter fraud" occurring in Missouri? The RNC actually issued that transcript verbatim as an official RNC press release. Remember when we told you that, given the hints within the RNC/FNC report that swing state MO was likely next on the RNC/FNC/FBI hit-list?

              Well, late last night, AP delivered right on schedule, open their story with "Officials in Missouri...are sifting through possibly hundreds of questionable or duplicate voter-registration forms submitted by an advocacy group that has been accused of election fraud in other states."

              The report quotes GOP tool & Jackson County (Kansas City), MO election director, Charlene Davis complaining they are "bogged down" with registrations right now, and insinuating that it's ACORN causing the problem for them.

              Of course, as with the pageant staged in Las Vegas, the Missouri action is also a scam. Read a little closer into the AP article, and you'll see the tell-tale signs of this October "Surprise" joke rather clearly...

              "I don't even know the entire scope of it because registrations are coming in so heavy," Davis said. "We have identified about 100 duplicates, and probably 280 addresses that don't exist, people who have driver's license numbers that won't verify or Social Security numbers that won't verify. Some have no address at all."
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              Jess Ordower, Midwest director of ACORN, said his group hasn't done any registrations in Kansas City since late August. He said he was told three weeks ago by election officials that there were only about 135 questionable cards - 85 of them duplicates.

              "They keep telling different people different things," he said. "They gave us a list of 130, then told someone else it was 1,000."

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                hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago

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                ... So Davis --- who just happened to have played a key role in the recent arrest of a Missouri election integrity advocate for committing the crime of trying to legally cast his vote --- doesn't "even know the scope of it", but is happy to suggest ACORN has done something amiss. That, even as ACORN hasn't done any registrations in Kansas City since August. (Not to mention the fact that, as we've pointed out now several days in a row, ACORN verifies every single registration form, and when they can't, they flag them as potentially fraudulent before turning them into officials, as they are required by law!)

                ...ACORN's Midwest director Ordower is not surprised by this wholly stated October "Surprise", and neither are we. We've been reporting on its rollout for about 4 years. It was only a matter of time before it showed up again in our old home state of MO --- not coincidentally, the home state of the GOP's "voter fraud" cappo, Thor Hearne.

                "It's par for the course," [Ordower] said. "When you're doing more registrations than anyone else in the country, some don't want low-income people being empowered to vote. There are pretty targeted attacks on us, but we're proud to be out there doing the patriotic thing getting people registered to vote." ....

                http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0810/S00153.htm

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                lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                Why don't you put you links where your moth is? All I've been able to find on convictions has been accusations on right wing "news letters" with no basis of fact.
                Kenneth Blackwell was the biggest offender of voter fraud in the state of Ohio and delivered Ohio to Bush in the 2004 election by unethical practice. It was Blackwell's strategy to cause problems in Ohio by limiting voting machines in Democratic areas and have an abundance of machines in Republican districts. Illegal?? Probably not. Unethical?? Yes because there were people waiting for hours to vote and were still trying to vote even after the polls were suppose to be closed.
                http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/2004vote...
                So now that Ohio voted his rear out of office, Republicans are again crying foul.

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