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Posted By capj71 1 year, 1 month ago in News

A bipartisan Alaska legislative panel has found that Sarah Palin Abuses her authority as governor in firing the state’s public safety commissioner. The report finds that she violated the public trust. We can now close the book on the Sarah Palin gamble. Palin now has no credibility, and has likely destroyed her own ticket.

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    smithichie1 year, 1 month ago

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    I wouldn't say goodbye too quickly, her fans are probably going to love her even more.

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      meems1 year, 1 month ago

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      YEAH, ALL THREE OF THEM!

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        jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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        Actually, they'll say she's being picked on for partisan motives, completely ignore that the ruling was unanimous and people from both party's agreed. Then they'll say the panel wasn't legitimate, morons will believe all of that, and nothing will change with die hard right wing kooks.

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          Marquus1 year, 1 month ago

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          I'm one of those right wing kooks who knows a con job when I see one. If all of the facts presented are totally true; guilty as charged, so what? Financial gain? No. Personal gain? No. Hmmm. Anyone lose any money? Nada.

          None of this raises to the level that the LIBS are guilty of. She did not break any laws. This is just a shame on you. Wow! and this is all the libs can find.

          Oh, I'm so embarrassed to admit I like her.

          Am I voting for McCain/Palin Nope. Not voting at all. Will not vote again until there is a true conservative. I did not like Palin's answers at the debate. I am a thinking person. Both parties need destroyed. We need an amendment to the Constitution to outlaw parties. As long as we have parties we'll continue to get these liberal weirdos claiming either to not be liberal or claiming to be conservative.

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            traveler20001 year, 1 month ago

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            Can you please explain what you have against a liberal?
            Don't you like free and constructive thinking?

            As for Palin, well yes, that "power abuse" in Alaska is a small matter. It's wrong, but....... I'm sure a lot (not all) of people (on BOTH sides) may do the same once and a while.
            However, if you (like her) always pretend that you are the best, with no faults, a pure Christian, criticizing the others (sometimes without foundation) then you should yourself be blameless.

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              Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago

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              traveler, perhaps not anything against liberals, but against the plans of the candidate.

              Please read an opinion from the Wall Street Journal:
              http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/11/obamas-m...

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                Will13131 year, 1 month ago

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                off topic..

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                  mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                  Klarissa has a "minor" obsession with Obama. Whether she gets paid to spend as much time as she does digging up dirt on him (while not ever trying to convince us of what McCain CAN offer us, anyone's guess but she does seem to have a very unhealthy preoccupation with the guy. I have a feeling the Secret Service will need to keep an eye on her. ;-P

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                    obiefrommuskogee1 year, 1 month ago

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                    Maybe it's a love/hate thang.

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            jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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            You certainly picked the correct political party. Of course she got "personal gain." I'll leave you to figure out what that was. Get back to me when you do.

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              lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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              Well, it's been pointed out that she Sarah Palin is nothing more than another G W Bush in lipstick and this ruling only proves it. Kinda brings back memories of the attorney firings a couple of years ago.

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              mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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              I would just like to know who you voted for in '04 since you knew Bush wasn't a conservative by then.

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              MajJohn1 year, 1 month ago

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              From what I read the report by the legislative panel was not unanimous and members urged caution in their interpretation that Ms Palin may have violated ethics law and that it was an opinion only and that no legal action was recommended. Would it be fair to conclude that this is an interpretation by left wing kooks? And of course anyone who does not agree with you is a moron, how incite full. Some would suggest that the fact that the incompetent trooper was not fired was proof of inside influence. And what did Ms. Palin gain again? I missed that part.

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                DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago

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                the allegation is the firing of not the intended target, but the firing of someone who refused to fire that target for her:

                "The inquiry looked into her dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, who said he lost his job because he resisted pressure to fire a state trooper involved in a bitter divorce with the governor's sister."

                http://news.aol.com/elections/article/panel-finds-...

                story on the AOL homepage

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                  Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago

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                  dead - you quote"he said". That was his defense.

                  Do you know wht her defense was??

                  Fair play, you know

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                    Bacalao1 year, 1 month ago

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                    she said no thats not what i fired him for. Unfortunately for her 10 reps and 4 dems on the board disagreed with her. thats hardly what i would call bi partisan. She got run over by a republican majority board of inquiry. "bless her heart".

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                memestryker1 year, 1 month ago

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                The panel agreed she did not do enough to stop her husband from following up on the trooper who was a former brother-in-law. She told him not to do it, according to his testimony. The reassignment itself was not shown to be a problem.

                Sounds like Todd was angry about the threats against the family and the tasering of the child and thought the drunkenness in his cruiser would be enough to put him off the force. In my state, the trooper would have been out for tasering the child.

                So it looks like Todd's emotions got the better of him and he didn't listen to the governor. But Gov. Palin didn't come on strong enough to stop him, so it's a breach of ethics for her.

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                  miklkit1 year, 1 month ago

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                  What business does someone who is NOT in government have getting involved in government business? The "first dud" should not have been there in the first place. That alone is enough to indict.

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                    lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                    That is the question I been trying to find the answer to and there is nothing I can find about Todd being appointed to a position to carry out actions for the governor. If he did fire the trooper, he carried out an act that he did not have authority to carry out. so, since Todd didn't have the authority to fire anyone, the ruling that she did not do enough to stop Todd from firing the trooper is a misleading statement.

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                      lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                      I've found a clarification of this question in another story.
                      Alaska Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by letting her husband press for the firing of a state trooper, a legislative probe found, while adding that she acted within her authority when she dismissed the state's public safety commissioner.

                      ``Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda,'' said the state legislative investigator's report released yesterday in Anchorage. The report also said Palin's dismissal of the commissioner, Walt Monegan, was a ``proper and lawful exercise'' of her power to fire department heads for any reason.
                      He didn't fire the trooper but he tried to pressure someone else to do it.

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                      jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                      The "first dud">>>>

                      Perfect. Just perfect.

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                    slate1 year, 1 month ago

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                    Actually, they'll say she's being picked on for partisan motives

                    Like you guys do when things about Obama come out?

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                      alakazam1 year, 1 month ago

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                      I always amuses me when people accuse politicians for doing things out of political motivation.

                      It's like accusing Doctors for healing the sick because they want them to get better.

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                        dissent1 year, 1 month ago

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                        only the doctor is josef mengele

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                        lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                        The difference slate is that this is a proven fact and the accusations by Palin that Obama is palling around with terrorist is not. You see, the committee in question is sponsored by a conservative friend of Ronald Reagan with conservative businessmen and conservative activist all setting at the same table with Ayers. So what Palin is doing is accusing all those conservatives and Reagan's friend of palling around with terrorist too.
                        The accusation against Obama concerning his pastor flies in the face of ignorance to believe that Obama has been influenced by what a pastor believes but Palin being the recipient of a ceremony to have the witch removed from her is proven by documentation of film.
                        The accusation that he has advisers that had ties to Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac has been debunked by Snopes.com and others but McCain who now has Rick Davis on his campaign is a proven fact. Rich Davis' firm by the way was being paid by Freddie Mac for work they never performed until last month.

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                          slate1 year, 1 month ago

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                          It's a PROVEN fact that Obama kicked off his political career with the man

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                            lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                            State which man you are talking about and give me a link to prove your statement from a reputable news source.
                            I've pointed out each person and debunked the accusation. Now you back up your statement.

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                              slate1 year, 1 month ago

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                              Of course the liks are spam? Look it up yourself I already did. Interesting that you say you debunked without links of your own.

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                        BravoSierra1 year, 1 month ago

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                        lol...ok, carry your notion through...the accused gets to deny the legitimacy of the State as a defense...

                        so, if I kill someone I just have to deny the state has the authority to try me...lol.

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                          lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                          Well, if they succeed in getting Alaska to secede from the US she would be a Queen and could make her own laws.

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                          coymoy1 year, 1 month ago

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                          And "They " will be right. I think the tipoff was the announced "OCTOBER SURPRISE" that predated any questioning. Obama's avoiding this like the plague...even he can smell the fish!

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                            Bruedaddy1 year, 1 month ago

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                            the october surprise I believe relates to the actual DATE ENDING the investigation...It could've also been a Sept. surprise if that was the date for the investigation to be finalized...

                            who set the date? I don't know, mopre Repubs on that council than demos so look at YOUR own party.

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                            rrobin61281 year, 1 month ago

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                            How many of you truly read the report? It is quite evident this person should not have been an officer any more and Palins firing of Monogen was justified according to the reports. This was just a pure waste of tax payers money.

                            There have been to judges who have looked at this on the news last night who felt the ruling was mis represented and there were no ethical issues envolved as there was no real personal or finacial gain.

                            People will read into this all they want, but when you have people from the police officers own town suggesting he should have been fired long ago, it seems to me that the Palins were correct!

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                              mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                              "How many of you truly read the report? It is quite evident this person should not have been an officer any more and Palins firing of Monogen was justified according to the reports."

                              --*sigh* No one disputes the legality of the firing itself. Palin broke the law when she abused her office to get the guy fired. She was right to fire him but her approach was wrong.

                              "There have been to judges who have looked at this on the news last night who felt the ruling was mis represented and there were no ethical issues envolved as there was no real personal or finacial gain"

                              --This argument perplexes me. Of course there was personal gain involved. Palin wanted the guy fired because because she claimed he threatened her family. She wanted to punish her former brother-in-law and get him to back off. That was the personal gain.

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                            sinophil491 year, 1 month ago

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                            One, two.... Wait. There's THREE???

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                              FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago

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                              More than that...They had to move a few rallies in florida because the location that was primarily selected was too small....

                              But it's truly funny, how this investigation was "rushed" to get done BEFORE the election whereas the ACORN voter fraud, Freddie and Fannie Mae buyout and other investigations where Obama was involved were put on hold becausee they didn't want to risk potential voter bias because of these investigations.....LMAO !!!

                              I tell ya... libs and Democraps are the sleeziest, "lying-est", biggest sack of crap, hypcrits that I have ever seen!

                              The Democraps ALWAYS get a pass on just about EVERYTHING....

                              But this story isn't anything unexpected....You have investigators with allegiance to Obama trying something...anything...to get Barack elected...

                              She didn't abuse her power, she was basically charged for not reigning her husband in when she should have....But she didn't abuse any power, as you libs are desperately reaching for...Wooten's boss wouldn't fire this thug, so she fired Monegan....Perfectly legal....

                              More power to her....If Monegan wasn't going to get it done, then he needed to go....The guy tasered a 10-yr old boy, was a drunk and hunted elk illegally and threatened Palin's dad...

                              Sorry, but if it was YOUR parents or family at risk, you would do the same...

                              And I for one would want my governor to exercise any authority to rid this menace to society and get him off the streets....He was bad news...

                              Libs, stop being the a$$es that we all know you are.....This is NOTHING compared to the mess that Obama is in and HE'S running for president....You've got a lot of American haters out there endorsing Barack Apollo Obama and we're finding out more and more everyday that it's not longer "guilt by association" but "guilt by alliance"......

                              More is going to come out on this in the next few days about this "taser gate" and I will be sure to forward you the stories that show how much partisan bias was involved in this whole thing....When you have investigators, who are avid supporters of Obama, involved in this trial, how can you possibly believe this slop?

                              Well, at least Farrankhan, Ayers and Rev. Wright still endorses your candidate....

                              There's still hope....

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                                sinophil491 year, 1 month ago

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                                FSU - There may indeed be wrongdoing uncovered in the ACORN investigation. However, there is one essential diference.
                                Wrongdoing in the ACORN case involves staffers or over-eager volunteers. It does not and never has involved Obama personally.
                                The troopergate affair involves wrongdoing by Palin personally.

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                                  alakazam1 year, 1 month ago

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                                  Give this man an E-cigar!

                                  You wanna know what I think about Palin?

                                  I just don't like the !@#$%.

                                  Now maybe she will come and get me with whatever rifle of her choice in a GOP funded chopper.

                                  Palin? Two thumbs down.

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                              RumorsKari1 year, 1 month ago

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                              o man ... lmao

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                                amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                For those fighting the party wars.
                                Party is the madness of many for the gain of a few.-Alexander Pope
                                If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill
                                Grow up you know nothing children who have never served nor have a true view of real life. Socialism offers pretty words, pretty dreams,slogans, and rhetoric but no answers to the real problems of the world. Standard idealogy straight from the Communist handbook.

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                                  mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                  "Socialism offers pretty words, pretty dreams,slogans, and rhetoric but no answers to the real problems of the world."

                                  --Ohhh, gee...An "impartial" person regurgitating idiotic neocon talking points. How many chances do we get to guess *your* voting record? ;-(

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                                memestryker1 year, 1 month ago

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                                The fact that Todd Palin was trying to go after a bad guy and she is being slapped for not doing enough to stop him probably doesn't make her look like a bad governor to most fans.

                                I think Palin and Obama have a lot in common. They both came in without all the facts and they're having to play catch-up. He had some months' head start, and has finally found his groove, and she's having to do a crash course. Both of them and their partners have some very strong opinions I don't agree with, and I'll have to go on the attack to retain my rights, irrespective of who wins the election.

                                My biggest concern is that we don't get another single party controlling the administration and both houses of congress. It doesn't work well, irrespective of party. We see how the Republicans add "God" to everything, and Obama just doesn't get the reality that countries are going to have to use tools like birth control and not just depend on wealth redistribution--especially since the U.S. is beyond broke (it was broke even with the surplus, but no one likes to point that out).

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                                  earthlingerer1 year, 1 month ago

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                                  "My biggest concern is that we don't get another single party controlling the administration and both houses of congress."

                                  Amen to that! Haqving only one, criminal, bought off party holding congress AND the White House for the past almost eight years has brought us to where we are now.

                                  The so-called "two party" system is the basis for the rot we find ourselves unable to treat.

                                  It would be great if lobbyists and corporations were forbidden to contribute ONE CENT to ANY party.

                                  But that would leave everything to the citizens, and while we have money on the conscience of politicians, they will continue to exercise "conscience over constituents".

                                  HANG THEM ALL!

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                                    tchef1 year, 1 month ago

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                                    We need the Democrats to control the whole thing for at least one congressional term so that we can undo the changes that the Bush administration made. Then I'll be happy to see it split up because things do seem to work much better for the nation that way.

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                                      Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago

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                                      The Democrats have had the last to years to introduce legislation. You will say the repubs would block it.

                                      If the Dems really wanted to do it they would have introduced what was important to them, made sure the media and their constituents knew about it, and fought for it.

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                                        mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                        But based on your logic and reasoning, Klarissa, the world economy wouldn't be crashing as a result of actions undertaken by the neocons' latest whipping posts, Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd (since Congress was under GOP control for the previous 12 years), right? The GOP had control so unless Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd simply overpowered the Republicans (granted, we know they can *outthink* the GOP) then your arguments that they are to blame for Bush's extreme failure holds no water whatoever.

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                                        Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                        We had that with Carter and it was a disaster. Obama's financial ideas are the same as Carters. High unemployment, inflation hitting 15%, interest rates over 20% at times. Great times that the Democrats gave us and Obama would give us again.

                                        NO THANK YOU!!!!!!

                                        ONCE WAS ENOUGH!!!!

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                                          mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                          "We had that with Carter and it was a disaster."

                                          --No, you people elected a disaster twice over the last 8 years and the result has been a hellish nightmare for both our country and the world. You clearly do not know the meaning of the word "disaster".

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                                            sinophil491 year, 1 month ago

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                                            endo - Of course Carter's economic record was poor. No one argues with that. It is ancient history in our modern world of instant second to second changes in stock indexes. So What?
                                            Contrast that to Bush's record which McCain is so adamant about continuing.
                                            Continuing tax cuts for the ultra-rich and corporations.
                                            Continuing pursuit of the ruinous Iraq War.
                                            Expanding drilling and increasing our dependence on oil. Unemployment/underemployment rate up to 9.9% (in July - BEFORE the crash). Unemployment rate alone up to 6.1%. Predicted to rise to 7%
                                            Loss of 4.4 million jobs under Bush. Under Clinton we had 22.5 million NEW jobs created
                                            Highest inflation ever under Clinton was 3.6%; under Bush now approaching 6%.
                                            Poverty level under Clinton dropped from 15.1% in 1993 to 11.8% when he left office. Under Bush, poverty level ROSE to 12.7%.
                                            Complete disappearance of over 1 trillion in asset values in past week alone. Transfer or withdrawal of $8.4 trillion from accounts and retirement plans. Wiping out of numerous pension plans.
                                            Loss of hundreds of thousands of homes.
                                            Closure of at least 35 banks.
                                            45% drop in dollar value since Bush took office.
                                            Refusal to ratify the Kyoto Accords and worsening of global warming.

                                            Why talk about Carter from 30 yrs ago? Why are you scared to compare Bush to Clinton?
                                            Worry about what is happening around you right now and what McCain would do if he wins and continues Bush's economic policies.

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                                              Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                              Everything was going good until the CRA foreclosure mess tripped the crash in housing prices that led to the banks and other institutions going bankrupt and many being bailed out. Credit dried up because of all of the money sucked out when the real estate prices dropped. CRA was a Democrat compassionate creation. Obama working for ACORN sued Citibank in Chicago to force them to give out more bad loans. Obama is part and parcel in this mess. ACORN lobbied Congress starting in 1990 to loosen up the guidelines for Fannie and Freddy. They were successful in doing so after Clinton was elected.

                                              Obama - ACORN - CRA - housing bubble - foreclosures caused the bubble to burst.

                                              All connected.

                                              I do not want Obama because he helped ACORN with this mess.

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                                                lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                The reason this whole mess came was McCain's adviser and former senate banking chairman Phil Gramm who pushed a deregulation veto proof bill through the senate in 1999 that took all regulation off the banking institutions. It was only a matter of time after that for the collapse to happen. He collected over $1.5 million for his effort.
                                                I don't want McCain because he supports deregulation.

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                                                  mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                  But the GOP took control of Congress in '94 and only lost control (of the Congress, that is) in '06. Bush has been in office for the last 8 years and yet you're saying that the Republicans were against this when they were in control of Congress but they were totally powerless to do anything about it? What stopped them. Regale us with the chronology of events starting with when the GOP took over in the early 90s (because cons seem to think Barney Frank and Chris Dodd held the GOP hostage all those years).

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                                            ProudBlueTexan1 year, 1 month ago

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                                            JEFFERSON CITY, Missouri (CNN) -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on Friday said Sen. Barack Obama put "ambition above country" after a newspaper reported that Obama may have tried to influence Iraqi politicians negotiating with the United States.

                                            That's the icing on the cake!!! lol

                                            ABOLISH THE gop!!!

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                                            jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                            You really, REALLY need to read this from NEWS WEEK reporters. They went to Alaska, and looked at the court records. Palin and her family accused the trooper of a lot of things, WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE THAT HE HAD DONE ANYTHING! Before Palin became governor, she was warned by a judge that if she and her family didn't stop bad mouthing the trooper to the children, the children would be moved away from there, & full custody would be given to the father. The law in Alaska recognizes that turning children against a parent is CHILD ABUSE. I'm going to say it again. She was told to knock it off three years before she became governor! The trooper was never charged with anything. He was found guilty of nothing. A court investigator found that the family was alienating the children from the father. They found no evidence that the accusations against the trooper was true. The mother apparently didn't want him to have custody rights at all. AGAIN! The trooper was found guilty of NOTHING! He was charged with NOTHING.
                                            http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140

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                                              jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                              Negging my post won't change the truth, CON.

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                                                techsupport1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                Wow. Good find, Jordan.

                                                This isn't just some spurious accusation. A judge found her actions to be alarming and possibly illegal. Pitting children against their own Father? Apparently Gov. Palin is only "pro-family" when the family member in question is on her good side.

                                                This article is over a month old, yet it wasn't a particularly widely-reported news story. I get the feeling Gov. Palin has become "Teflon Sarah" at this point. Not much is going to stick to her. She's anti-abortion, and that's all that's important to the masses who show up at her rallies.

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                                                  mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                  Wow...It's like you're reading my mind. I think as soon as right wingers heard about baby Trick or Trigger or whoever, they just swooned and their eyes glazed over. They've been lying for the past two years that they don't know enough about Obama (all the while talking about freaking flag pins and refusing to believe anything other than what they've been spoonfed by Limbaugh and told to think by FOX) but *overnight* they knew the beauty pageant runner up was their queen. LOL...Cons are so FOS and they actually think that if they pretend people don't remember their blatant lies, hypocrisy and flipflopping, they don't have to acknowledge them.

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                                                  mrsdenisedolpin1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                  you really need to look up the Glenn Beck interview with Mr. Trooper!!

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                                                    GehlLady1 year ago

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                                                    jordan, he did admit to the tasering, and if he had tasered my child I'd have done waaay more than the Palins did to him. If I had the same judge they had, I'm sure I would have been put away for a long time. Did you read the report? I'd have fought tooth and nail to keep the man away from my children as well!

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                                                    ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                    memestryker wrote: "My biggest concern is that we don't get another single party controlling the administration and both houses of congress. It doesn't work well, irrespective of party."

                                                    Amazing how the lie-du-jour New Republicans lurch from this to that lie. After working so hard to get control of the entire government, they now claim that control of the government is a bad thing. Funny, it worked well under FDR to bring an end to the great depression that the Republicans brought on. It worked to win WWII. Government gridlock with the Roadblock Republicans in the Senate is a great deal of what's wrong right now.

                                                    The New Republicans claim that government can't do anything right, yet they desperately want control of the government, so much so they will tell any lie and use any smear to get their hands on the reins of power. And as soon as they are in control, they drive the ship of state straight onto the rocks.

                                                    Bring back the real fiscal conservative Republicans I used to be a part of. Let this economic disaster be the end of the deficit doubling New Republicans and their belief in trickle down Reaganomic .

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                                                      mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                      "After working so hard to get control of the entire government, they now claim that control of the government is a bad thing. "

                                                      --You just reminded me how the sudden chorus of new "Independents" (aka, lying cons who after 2006 are actually so ashamed they voted for Bush twice that they can't dare to call themselves Republicans anymore) began wailing about how horrible and catastrophic it would be for America to have a "Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton" phenomenon (which we heard none of following Bill Clinton's Presidency.

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                                                        alakazam1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                        "Bring back the real fiscal conservative Republicans I used to be a part of. Let this economic disaster be the end of the deficit doubling New Republicans and their belief in trickle down Reaganomics "

                                                        Now there is an idea I could really get behind.

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                                                        secondbornson1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                        To compare Obama and Palins knowledge of the "facts" is a joke. Obama was Magna *** Luade at Harvard Law, that is the number one Legal Doctoral Student at on of the world most renouned Law School. He has taught constitutional Law and as an undergrad he studied Political Science with emphasis on Foreign affairs at Columbia University.
                                                        Sarah Palin pieced together a Bacheleors of Journalism over five years at four different schools (Hawaii Pacific U,N Idaho college, Mantanuska-Sustina College and U of Idaho).

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                                                          FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                          Who gives a chit about Osama's schooling....

                                                          Bush has degrees from Yale and a MBA from Harvard...

                                                          What's your point ?

                                                          And please don't use that stupid line that Osama is smarter because of his degrees.....Degrees don't mean crap....Bush had some nice ones and you libs constantly implied that he was stupid....But Osama, who basically went to the same schools is miraculously NOT ? How can that be ?

                                                          Point is, common sense, character, and judgement...Stuff that cannot be taught at a hoity-toity academic institution, is something Barack Apollo Obama is lacking...

                                                          I know a lot of people that went to Ivy league schools but are dumber than a box of rocks....doesn't mean anything to me...

                                                          Maybe he wrote a thesis on inflating tires up at Harvard.....Seems to be his passion....

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                                                            disraeli1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                            FSU92grad

                                                            "Bush has degrees from Yale and a MBA from Harvard...Degrees don't mean crap....Bush had some nice ones and you libs constantly implied that he was stupid....But Osama, who basically went to the same schools is miraculously NOT ? How can that be ?"

                                                            To answer your rhetorical question. I've heard them both speak. One uses complete sentences, the other has a degree from Yale. So my evaluation is more empirical and less theoretical.

                                                            "Degrees don't mean crap" As an aside does FSU grant degrees?

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                                                              lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                              Is Bush running for president again??
                                                              If you knew what a Magna C u m Luade at Harvard Law was you might be impressed but since that was way out of your reach I can understand why you wouldn't be impressed.

                                                              "Point is, common sense, character, and judgement...Stuff that cannot be taught at a hoity-toity academic institution, is something Barack Apollo Obama is lacking..."
                                                              Here's where you are so far off it's pathetic. Obama has the good sense to not get in the gutter with the Republican campaign and refrain from placing lies in their ads as the McCain campaign has been doing.

                                                              "I know a lot of people that went to Ivy league schools but are dumber than a box of rocks....doesn't mean anything to me..."
                                                              Yeah, one is in the White House as a lame duck. Another that went to a big Academy is running for prez.

                                                              "Maybe he wrote a thesis on inflating tires up at Harvard.....Seems to be his passion...."
                                                              Another attempt to poke fun at Obama by the McCain group that backfired. You see, the DOT put out a pamphlet giving just that information and the benefits from it. Of course elitist Republicans like McCain would not even know where the air goes in the tires much less how to use a tire gauge.

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                                                                mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                Then why did you bother going to...uhh...FSU?

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                                                                  chuck-the-canuck1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                  His mommy made him. She got tired on him playing with his dollies in her basement.

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                                                                    lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    What lead you to believe he did? Last I heard Propeller was not checking used names for accuracy.

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                                                                  mrsdenisedolpin1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                  "and none of them have a lick of common sence, just a degree which isn't worth --------- without common sence

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                                                                    amazedandsaddened1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    It amazes me how pathetic the left wing is. They totally skew the media and try to smear this woman all the while IGNORING Obama's associations with total loons! I was 8 years old when John Kennedy was assasinated but I think that when I was the age Obama was when he decided to run for the senate I would have remembered who LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS and what he had done to our country. I think those of you living the delusion whould wake up and if you want to live in a socialist country go to one and leave ours to those of us who still believe in our Constitution not the distorted veiw the media tries to shove down our throats! God HELP America!

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                                                                      mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                      One thing we can agree on is that people like you (who believe that you alone are so special and your way of life is the only way) are DEFINITELY in need of help. The notion that cons can render the US FUBAR and then should actually be allowed anywhere NEAR the White House again is delusional in the extreme.

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                                                                    Blackacereturn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    Meme Have you spent a single second finding out about Obama and where he stand?

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                                                                    amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    Do you really consider the panel impartial? Was the preconceived judgement by the Dumbocrats a surprise? God help America. We dearly need it. But even God doesn't have a chance around Leftist Dumbocrats and their propaganda.
                                                                    If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill

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                                                                      mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                      Uh...They concluded that the guy deserved to be fired but that Palin's approach was unlawful. IOW, two wrongs don't make a right. What's complicated? Why are cons so befuddled by this?

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                                                                        Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                        Poor mesodude can't read even a hatchet job correctly. NO criminal activity.

                                                                        Even the worst the report says "concluded that the Governor abused her power by conducting a campaign to have her former brother-in-law Mike Wooten fired as a state trooper, or by failing to prevent her husband Todd from doing so. "

                                                                        The main problem is that almost all of that happened before she became Governor.

                                                                        What would you do if someone threatened to kill your father and tasered your nephew to show him what it felt like. This among other findings by the state troopers.

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                                                                          jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                          Palin and her family were under a court order to stop bad mouthing the trooper. Obviously, they don't give a damn about the law. And THAT is the problem.

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                                                                            lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                            Endo said:"The main problem is that almost all of that happened before she became Governor."
                                                                            Poor Endo cannot follow a story properly. There were two rulings in this case.
                                                                            #1 the one right wing cons want to point is the ruling that she did not break the law in the reassignment of Monegan's was within the law and within her rights as governor but her actions .
                                                                            #2 was a little different. Sarah Palin, John McCain’s running mate, unlawfully abused her power as Alaska’s governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, according to an ethics investigation released last night.
                                                                            “Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: To get Trooper Michael Wooten fired,"

                                                                            Both of these happen WHILE she was governor. ROFLMAO

                                                                            "What would you do if someone threatened to kill your father and tasered your nephew to show him what it felt like. This among other findings by the state troopers."
                                                                            I'd press charges against him. If found guilty, remove him from office. Problem with her actions is her feeling that she is all powerful and above the law which she knows nothing about. Not ready for the high office of VP.

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                                                                        Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                        The "bipartisan" witch hunt found something against her. What a surprise. Once she was nominated for VP that was the inevitable result. The Democrats made sure of that. Notice that it was only a possible contributing factor th the firing.

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                                                                          Goppy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                          Endo ... I notice that while you so often ridicule others for not being 'Christian-Enough' ... by whatever measure you use ... you REGULARLY excuse ANY type of Malfeasance ... Lying .... Death .... Destruction .... Intimidation ..... and Incompetence .... if these behaviors are exhibited by the POLITICAL IDEOLOGY you agree with.

                                                                          And what is the corner-stone of that Ideology?

                                                                          Waging Indiscriminate War.
                                                                          Lying to Initiate War.
                                                                          Welfare for the Wealthy.
                                                                          Short-Changing our troops.
                                                                          Huge Paychecks for BlackWater Mercenaries.
                                                                          Excuses and Unaccountability for Polluters.
                                                                          Excuses and Unaccountability for malfeasance by Insurance Companies
                                                                          Excuses for this administration's Perversion of Justice.

                                                                          and best of all ... ... ...

                                                                          the Ideology of fighting against Children getting Health-Care.

                                                                          Well ... that certainly helps me understand how you measure OTHER'S Christianity.

                                                                          Thanks!

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                                                                            Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                            Poor Goppy
                                                                            Amnesia I think. I keep telling you that you should stop saying the lie that you are a Christian and a Conservative. Then you try to put words in my mouth that I never said. You are accusing me of doing what you do as a "Christian Conservative".

                                                                            Poor Goppy has a memory problem.

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                                                                              alakazam1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                              Bull!@#$!

                                                                              Goppy is a great American and I for one am glad to know him.

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                                                                                mesodude1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                And I consider it an honor to be repeatedly accused of being Goppy posting under another profile name. Plus what alakazam said. ;-P

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                                                                                lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                Explain to me how it was the Democrats that found this when she was already under investigation before McCain picked her as his running mate. It was the Democrats who were on an investigating committee consisting of 10 cons and 4 dems that found her guilty and the cons had nothing to do with it. Well, that does falls in line with your blaming the Democrats for every else.

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                                                                            capj711 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                            The problem is that there aren't enough of her fans left to matter. She now has a net negative approval rating. She is dead weight, and if McCain keeps her around he will be routed on Election Day.

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                                                                              thedragonlady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                              Hi,

                                                                              Sarah is a clevel woman, but she cannot pull the wool over people's eyes.

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                                                                                jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                but she cannot pull the wool over people's eyes.>>>>

                                                                                She sure can, with stupid people.

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                                                                                  epiphannyy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                  Just look at her defenders on this site.....they see nothing wrong with her abusing powers and seem to believe the McCain/Palin version that the report actually cleared her. Never underestimate Sarah Palin? The real warning should be to never underestimate the power of stupid people with a cause and the Sarah Palin crowd is the perfect case study to prove that warning should be heeded.

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                                                                                    FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                    Look at us ? You see nothing wrong with Osama being involved with American haters like Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright and Louis Farrankhan....

                                                                                    What's the difference?

                                                                                    I would much rather vote for someone who got a slap on the risk for not reigning her husband in and getting rid of a thug trooper that was a menace to society and a threat to her family than a Socialist with a questionable American-hating past....Which is more dangerous to America, do you think, McFly ?

                                                                                    Tell me something, dipchit, if your family had been threatened would you have responsed accordingly? Especially, if his boss wouldn't do the firing ?

                                                                                    You guys act so "holier than thou" as if you wouldn't have done the same and I for one am glad she used whatever measures necessary to get rid of him....Even if she abused her power, which she did not....

                                                                                    But keep on with the witchhunts, we still have a few weeks left and your precious Barack Apollo Obama is going to be in trouble....

                                                                                    mark my words....

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                                                                                      lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                      FSU said:
                                                                                      "I would much rather vote for someone who got a slap on the risk for not reigning her husband in and getting rid of a thug trooper that was a menace to society and a threat to her family than a Socialist with a questionable American-hating past....Which is more dangerous to America, do you think, McFly ?"
                                                                                      I would agree with you if you can explain why you voted for G W Bush. He palled around with Osama Bin Laden, had DUI's, left the Guard before his time was up, and was involved with the Savings and Loan scandal and still got your vote so what's your problem with Obama?? Because he isn't on the Republican ticket.

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                                                                                    Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                    jordan, why is it the Dems keep comparing Palin to Obama? It should be Obama to McCain, and Biden to Palin,

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                                                                                      ibstilyn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                      Klarissa,
                                                                                      When caribou barbie was oh so popular some were calling it the "palin/mc cain ticket". As a matter of fact , I was at a gun show about 3 weeks ago and they had a booth for the republicans selling Mc Cain-Palin T-shirts---with only Palin's face on the shirt. Hey , what happened to the old guy that was supposed to get top billing?It's not the dems doing it. Both eyes open now or you are going to miss some things.

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                                                                                        jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                        Here's some reading for you klarissa. I hold out hope for you, I really do.

                                                                                        http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140

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                                                                                        mrsdenisedolpin1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                        Nice words, a Pretty face, but beats around the bush and never says an word -Obama Thanks so much for paragraph after paragraph of nothing!!

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                                                                                      chuck-the-canuck1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                      “The problem is that there aren't enough of her fans left to matter.”

                                                                                      Were that only the case. Best to remember, that the ones that are left, are packing bibles and guns. That can be a very dangerous combination. Democrats should consider applying the “Bush Doctrine”.

                                                                                      The republican base has proven itself to be no better than rabid dogs. Unlike “Old Yeller”, I won’t be shedding any tears when they are sent to meet their maker.

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                                                                                        earthlingerer1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                        It really is their last race as the "GOP".

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                                                                                          HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                          Remember, a cornered rat is a dangerous animal.

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                                                                                            Bluedragon9121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                            A cornered rat, or a wounded bear? I think the latter is more fitting, what with the sheer nastiness of the attacks going on as of late.

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                                                                                        reidgator1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                        With regard to ethics, Sarah isn't perfect, but she is a saint compared to Bill & Hillary.
                                                                                        If we can overlook their actions, we can over look Sarah's!!

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                                                                                          Aotearoa1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                          reidgator, what planet are you from? your just like all the neocons. when all else fails beat on president Clinton and first lady Hillary. The country was sweet under their guidance. The republicans in the past 8 years sent america down the toilet . America can't afford another boat of corrupted , gun slinging and incompetent thugs to run the country.

                                                                                          I suspect Mcbush will be looking for another running mate.

                                                                                          leve leva e malanga kae tau

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                                                                                            DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                            "The country was sweet under their guidance". Right, "I never had sex with that woman". Uh huh .. yah .. sweet. Makes Palin's alledged wrongdoing pale in comparison. Clinton did more to undermine the credibility of the highest office than most anyone else in history. Wonder what brand of cigar he smokes now. :-D

                                                                                            What's more, she didn't break any laws and after listening BOTH sides, I'm not so sure she's guilty of abuse either. You have to read the entire story, both sides. Wooten was a loose canon and Monegan disobeyed Palin on budget matters aside from the family squabble, etc. He deserved what he got, imho of course. Even the lawyer - An Obama supporter - on Larry King live last night sided with Palin for the most part (he did give that impression) and called it a non-issue.

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                                                                                              diogenes21st1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                              First, she did violate a state ethics law, according to the report. So stop this nonsense that the report says she did not violate the law. Just read the thing for yourself. Second, she lied. She lied to Alaskans and then lied to the rest of America. She did not say in July that she was justified in her actions because Wooten was a bad guy. She denied that anyone - her, her staff, her husband - had applied any pressure at all. She was still saying that the week of the Republican Convention. Then, when it became clear that wasn't clear, she claimed that her staff had pressured state officials without her knowledge (Do you believe Todd did this without her knowledge, too?). Now we know all of that was BS. So we have 3 issues here: Did she break state law? Did she abuse her power? Did she lie and try to cover it up? Even if - and this is big if - she passes sniff test #1, she clearly fails #2 and #3. If you are an ethical and law-abiding person, how can you defend her?

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                                                                                                Bacalao1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                Easy only dems break the law. When reps do it it is A.O.K.!

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                                                                                            memestryker1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                            I don't think Sarah, Bill, or Hillary are big ethics violators. None of these are evil people, and all are/were wildly popular with the majority of their constituents.

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                                                                                              jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                              The clinton's have nothing to do with it. This is about Palin. Not only is she unethical, she clearly broke the law. A judge told her three years before she became governor to STOP bad mouthing the trooper. She defied a court order.
                                                                                              http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140

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                                                                                              sinophil491 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                              reidgator - I do NOT overlook the actions of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Bill's was the greater offense. I am liberal, but I am also religious and frown on adultery.
                                                                                              However, I am also a citizen and a taxpayer, so I can see the economic and political good that Bill Clinton did.

                                                                                              Moreover, Bill Clinton's sins were of a personal, private nature that harmed only himself and his family. He has to deal with the consequences with his family and his God.

                                                                                              Palin's transgressions affected another human being and his career. The abuse of power also has deep significance in the pursuit of one's responsibilities in the White House. That is why Palin's ethical sins merit far greater thought and consideration in this year's election as to who will guide our country the next 4 or 8 years.

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                                                                                                mrsdenisedolpin1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                What do you think Bill would have done? Called the KKK?

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                                                                                                bamababy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                Over look her actions? I think not. We've had enough of government using and abusing power for personal gain. She thinksa wink and a smile can move her into position, I think not. She spews her message (incorrectly,I might add) of hate and ignorance in regards to Senator Obama paling around with terrorists, when in fact it is they, the republicans who've given our own homegrown terrorist,ie, GWB and Chaney the free hand in spreading hate and terrorism all over the world. Look at the mess we're in, can you not see what a joke they've made of America in the eyes of the world at large? No, McCain is the croney to the terrorist not the other way around. A vote for McCain is a vote to finish destroying this great nation called America. Wake up, stand up. vote Obama '08. Revolution people, let us regain our liberties and our nation and return it back to the peolple.

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                                                                                              asl11031 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                              McCain gets what he deserves for not properly vetting his VP. Sarah Palin is the most unqualified potential VP ever... and now a joke to the ticket. Her words have no power of being a "change maverick". Seems the pitbull with lipstick is just as guilty as those she accuses!

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                                                                                                meems1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                DITTO!

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                                                                                                  meems1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                  not as sick as you're going to be on Nov. 4th honey.

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                                                                                                    crownscaster1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                    You people are sick.

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                                                                                                      jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                      You know what's sick? Turning children against their parent. It's child abuse. Palin and her family were told by a judge to stop doing it. A court investigator found they were trashing the man to his children. Not ONE of the accusations by palin and her family had any evidence, and he was not found guilty of ANY wrong doing. Palin defied a court order to knock it off. Her entire family defied that court order. Palin has NO respect for the law.

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                                                                                                    RumorsKari1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                    Def. Food for thought. I agree. I think he did it to shock the nation. Maybe to replace hillary ? Maybe because she is new like Obama ? Maybe because she's likable ? But even so ., There's no way she's gonna win in this election. I just don't see it. Obama is hot . No matter what happened before , The Obama we see dailey , Has become the president we all desire. I think he is gonna rock the white house apart.

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                                                                                                    Lurch1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                    no truer words ever spoken.

                                                                                                    McCain was reckless and irresponsible for choosing such an inexperienced and unethical person to be a heart beat from the presidency.

                                                                                                    That completely irresponsible lack of vetting alone shows that McCain does not have the judgment necessary to be president.

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                                                                                                      DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                      "Sarah Palin is the most unqualified potential VP ever". Sure, just like those "other governors", Carter, Clinton, et al that made it to PRESIDENT. Better a VP with a little tarnish than a PRESIDENT with the same non-experience, 'eh?

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                                                                                                        sinophil491 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                        twiceasnutty - Just last night, I heard Ted Koppel comment on Carter that immediately raised my estimation of Carter. This was on the Charlie Rose Show.
                                                                                                        Apparently after the embassy staff were captured and held hostage, one of Carter's options was to punish the Iranians by bombing Iran. He refused to do so because it would kill too many innocent civilians. He refused to do so even at the cost of his presidency. That is holding on to a morally and ethically principle at a significant cost to oneself.

                                                                                                        As far as Clinton is concerned, I do not recall any national or international economic crash. I do not recall ever increasing budget deficits and soaring national debt. I do not recall a universal collapse of financial loss of confidence and national loss of sense of well being. I do not recall a rising tide of despair and panic. I do not recall a loss of over a trillion in assets within a one week period. I do not recall the pursuit of an illegal, immoral, useless, ruinous war.

                                                                                                        In fact, under Clinton, I only recall the exact opposite of everything above.

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                                                                                                        sinophil491 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                        asl1103 - "Sarah Palin is the most unqualified potential VP ever."
                                                                                                        Boy, considering that the name Dan Quayle still brings on a small laugh in my mind, that's a close call. I'll just say she is in the top 2 of the list.

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                                                                                                        jovial1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                        So she's a criminal. Why am I not surprised. I can't wait to hear the spin they try to put on this one. It was a bipartisan commission. So politics isn't the excuse. McCain has shown poor decision making ability in picking this woman (and I use that term loosely) as his running mate. Sha-na-na-na, Hey, hey, hey, goodbye! And they tried to make Obama look like the Chicago thug. Hypocrites!

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                                                                                                          GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                          Whether or not she's abused her power doesn't change Mr. Obamas associations. BTW, they didn't say she is a criminal. The report is confusing at best. She didn't break the law by firing him, but violated ethics rules.

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                                                                                                            meems1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                            And violating ethic rules is ok? And speaking of Mr. Obama, I suppose he if had done this type of thing you would be calling him a criminal and you'd be screaming for a complete investigation.

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                                                                                                              ProudBlueTexan1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                              To a repuglican, breaking ethics rules is preferred.

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                                                                                                                HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                More like the norm.

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                                                                                                                ginasmiles1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                AMEN to that Meems!!!! THAT IS THE BEST COMMENT I HAVE SEEN ALL DAY !!!

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                                                                                                                  ginasmiles1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                  AMEN to that Meems!!!! THAT IS THE BEST COMMENT I HAVE SEEN ALL DAY !!!

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