The Palin Mob Mentality: Racism, Willful Ignorance »
Posted By greenmac 8 months, 3 weeks ago in Political NewsIt’s no wonder that the slightest incitement from Sarah Palin or John McCain will turn one of their rallies into a lynch mob. Just talk to the folks who attend.
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santanagetaway8 months, 3 weeks ago
It is due to the belief of the majority of the people, who do not see Mr. Obama for what he is! And from where and how he has come forward. Most people with his educational background are fighting to pay-off grants, student loans and so forth. Who financed his studies? This is just a small part of why people are mad because no one wants to drag-out the dirt on Mr. Obama and this nation will zink even further under his domain if he's chosen president.
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Tangent0018 months, 3 weeks ago
"...no one wants to drag-out the dirt on Mr. Obama..."? Are you lucid? Have you lived in a cave for the past several months?
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Ayers
Wright
Odinga
Closet Muslim
Terrorist ('terrorist-bump' with is wife)
Socialist
Marxist
Resko
Bitter-gate
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mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago
Maybe it's you in the 20 percenter minority who are the ones who ignorant beyond belief? Oh, wait...Greedy, arrogant cons can't conceive of the possibility that if their views are in the minority, *they* just might be the ones who are hopelessly warped individuals. Very sad. ;-(
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Lurch8 months, 3 weeks ago
Most people with Obama`s educational background are not paying off student loans because they got in and got through on Daddy`s money or strings, like Bush and McCain for example. Obama is a self-made man who Bush and McCain could only dream of being. Obama is the man that they both realized early on in their lives that they would never be, so they played the class clown and pretended to be a regular guy instead.
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ConsAreNonGrata8 months, 3 weeks ago
"Who financed his studies?"
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Weren't the Obamas paying on student loans until the bestsellers came along?
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Blackacereturn8 months, 3 weeks ago
santanagetaway _ I know you think somehow you have come up with a good one here but this is just a reflection on your folly and not Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama has said about 20 times that he and his wife has just finish paying off their student loan, his tax report he had to release shows that he just did. Before you ask where the money came from? Let me answer that for you, he had two best selling books and the congress pays quite nicely...his wife makes more than he does at her JOB!
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Your assertions like most that i have heard about Mr. Obama is stupid! You all keep saying i don't know this man, look one have to be thick not to know he has been the most talked about and investigated person on the planet, do you really think if Obama was hiding something the world wouldn't know about it by now.
You want to sound deep and pretend that you have caught on to something with how he payed for his education...he did like most Americans have for years and may not be able to do if he is not elected, hr got a loan and grants...what you should be asking is who has a plan to fix our country not this conspiracy drivel.
You on the right look very foolish the more you try to paint this guy in a corner...he was raised by his White Grandmother and grandpa for crying out! -
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CORVIDIVS8 months, 3 weeks ago
santanagetaway: what would your position be if Obama was reveiled a Buddhist . Would it conveniently have the evangelic interpretation 'securety risk'...
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Endoscopy8 months, 3 weeks ago
Keep in mind that the polls had Carter wining until 1 week before the election. Then it was Reagan.
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Goppy8 months, 3 weeks ago
greenmac ... check out this video ... I've never seen anything like it!
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It's a series of interviews from Veterans ... some of whom were trying to get information declassified so they could locate MIA's ....
.... and John McCain fought them tooth and nail.
Some other of the interviews with McCain were fellow POW's .... who have a very low regard for John McCain.
It's amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g
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Endoscopy8 months, 3 weeks ago
How about his connection to ACORN by training the staff in the 80's and currently giving them $800,000 from his campaign contributions. The same organization he sued Citibank for to force them to live up to their version of CRE loans. The same organization that pushed in Congress to reform the CRE in 1990 and after Clinton was elected got traction to upgrade CRE and other legislation about banking changes as well that gave us this financial crisis. Past and present aid to a far left organization now being looked at for voter fraud.
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Is this dirt enough?
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Georgia508 months, 3 weeks ago
Interesting. My wife and I were discussing this very thing....of Obama's ilk.
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What puzzles us is what will cause more rioting among Obama supporters...an Obama victory or an Obama defeat ???
I mean let's face it. It's not like a legitimate reason is required.
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not2needy8 months, 3 weeks ago
These people are scary! Ignorant rednecks are all McCain and Palin can attract to support them, it's very tellng as to who they really are.
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greenmac8 months, 3 weeks ago
Not much thought went into their responses. In fact I believe their responses made them think a bit....Well maybe..LOL
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Georgia508 months, 3 weeks ago
Yeah right.
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A friend threw Obama in my face at the gym the other day. (Normal gym etiquette runs against religion or politics as topics of discussion -conservative/liberal/Christian/gay...makes no difference...we're there to exercise, but oh well...)
So he blathers on about how he's scared of Palin. I asked him why she scared him. The deer caught in headlights stare was priceless...he was truly shocked that anyone would have the audacity to ask. I waited politely. There was no response. He tossed out the obligatory indignation and changed the subject.
I indicated that because of Rev. Wright, the proven racist and bigot, there's no way I could vote for Obama. He said, as if clueless to the core, "He wasn't even there that day."
For his limited ability to reason, 20 years of marinating in abject hatred and bigotry means nothing provided Obama was not there the day the camera showed up.
But I digress. Back to the point you were so desparately trying to make. Why do you suppose Rev. Racist Bigot Wright is not a McCain/Palin supporter? -
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hyperbola8 months, 3 weeks ago
Well n2n, one of the important tasks for the coming years is to provide more fairness and education to the "rednecks".
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Revenge of the Mutt People
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/02/revenge-...
Many years ago I worked at an industrial hog farm owned by the Coeur d'Alene Indian tribe in northern Idaho. The place stank of the dead and rotting brood sows we chopped out of farrowing crates -- bred to death in the drive for pork production. And it stank of the massive ponds that held millions of gallons of hog feces and rotting baby pigs, and every square inch was poisoned by the pesticides used to kill insects that hogs attract and the antibiotics fed to hogs from hundred pound sacks. The Coeur d'Alene Indians refused to suffer those kinds of conditions; they wouldn't even manage the place. They contracted it out. As my friend Walter Wildshoe said: ?Only a white man would work there.? ....
.... My point here is that we rural and small town mutt people by an early age seem to have a special capacity for cruelty, compared say, to damned near every other imaginable group of Americans. For instance, as a child did you ever put a firecracker up a toad's ass and light it? George Bush and I have that in common. Anyway, as all non-whites the world round understand, white people can be mean. Especially if they feel threatened -- and they feel threatened about everything these days...
... About half of the Americans killed in Iraq come from communities like Winchester, Virginia or Romney, West Virginia or Fisher, Illinois or Kilgore, Texas or . . . . About 45 percent of the American dead in Iraq come from communities of less than 40,000, even though these towns make up only 25 percent of our population. These so-called volunteers are part of this nation's de facto draft -- economic conscription -- the carrot being politically preferable to the whip. The carrot does not have to be very big out here where delivering frozen food wholesale to restaurants out of your own car entirely on commission is considered a good self-employment opportunity...
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bluebirdwatcher18 months, 3 weeks ago
Let's see if I have this straight, here are the rules:
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1. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS MOTHER.
2. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS FATHER.
3. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS WIFE.
4. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS PREACHER.
5. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS (typical white person) GRANDMOTHER.
6. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS MOBSTER FRIENDS.
7. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS BOMBER FRIENDS.
8. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS RELIGION.
9. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS NAME.
10. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT RACE.
11. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT APPEASEMENT.
12. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS VOTING RECORD.
13. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS (lack of) EXPERIENCE.
14. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS FLAG PIN.
15. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS INCOME.
16. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS LIBERALISM.
17. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS "DUMBO" EARS.
18. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HIS MUSLIM BACKGROUND.
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greenmac8 months, 3 weeks ago
You can talk about any of those things as long as you speak the truth or ask what the truth is. As you can see in this video...those that were interviewed did not have the facts...they may have had the "myth" and the hype that has been going around with the myth...but not the facts. you have viewed the video...do you agree?
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mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago
But I think what you should be asking yourself is why you have NOTHING to say about John McCain. I'll answer that for you...All cons can do is spin, lie and smear because John McCain is NO different from George Bush and he has nothing different to offer America--just more shame, dishonor, embarrassment, misery, disgrace, debt, wars, lies, crime, corruption, and tax subsidies for oil companies funding his campaign. John McCain, like most cons, is TOTALLY useless (and that goes for his little dog Cindy, too).
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disraeli8 months, 3 weeks ago
Blue,
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Depending on what you watch, listen or read it's been nothing but non stop talk about points such as you mention. I would have thought that there may have been more pressing matters to talk about than
4. His preacher, which makes Sarah's witch doctor relevant
6. His mobster friends, which makes McCain's convicted felon friend Mr Keating relevant
9. His name, and this is because you don't know it or because he had so much input into what it is
14. His flag pin, which makes McCain's lack of a flag pin at the two debates relevant
17. His "dumbo" ears - please be serious
Blue,
What a litany of stupidity you shout from the roof tops and gutter bottoms.
I would have thought that perhaps you might want to talk about
1. The economy
2. The war in Iraq
3. The economy
4. Health care proposals
5. The economy
6. Energy policy
7. The economy
8. The war in Afganistan
9. The economy
10. The environment
11. The economy
If however you consider these topics a bit too insignificant to discuss during a presidential campaign please feel free to address
1. Bowling
2. Obama's shoe size
3. Obama's 3rd cousin's webbed toes
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Spadecaller8 months, 3 weeks ago
bluebirdwatcher:
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In this country you are allowed to talk your bigoted smack and hate up to the point that you don't incite violence against an individual or group of individuals. You may not like what the rest of us think or say about you, but who is stopping your from pronouncing your hatred for Obama? -
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tchef8 months, 3 weeks ago
Let's talk flag pins for a moment. I have noticed in the last 2 debates that Obama wore a flag pin but I didn't see one on McCain. What's up with that? I guess McCain feels that the pin wore by Palin more than makes up for him not wearing one.
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jcygotucrazy18 months, 3 weeks ago
These comments are not unusual of McCain supporters. This is just how the whites that support McCain really feel about blacks and anyone not white here in America. I am SO GLAD that how they feel is finally in the light and everyone can see them for the hate filled, divisive, bigots they really are. McCain supporters say they are afraid. I am afraid! Obama a terrorist? Whites are the original terrorists! Remember the KKK? I am afraid everyday I go to work with McCain supporters because I dont know which one will bring a gun to work and kill everyone because they are Obama supporters. Can anyone ease my fear of a McCain America? Has anyone mentioned that Sarah Palin's husband is a member of the Independence party in Alaska? That party wants a WAR with the lower 48 states for independence. If they get in office, America will surely suffer!
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Candida8 months, 3 weeks ago
I don't think the Alaska Independence Party wants a war with the other states, but they do want to separate.
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Georgia508 months, 3 weeks ago
"Remember the KKK?"
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You people won't let us forget. That's the group that lynched mostly Republicans. That's the group that Democrat Senator Robert Byrd recruited for while blacks were being lynched in West Virginia. We stopped waiting for that apology long ago.
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jcygotucrazy18 months, 3 weeks ago
Oh yes, I REMEMBER THE KKK! I am old enough to remember seeing my uncle lynched and burned while he was hanging from the oak tree in front of my grandmother's house in Mississippi! It is the SAME kind of hate that McCain supporters are exhibiting today. "You people?" YOU PEOPLE are the ones I fear. Whites are still holding on to that hate mentality. Are they going to revert back to that mentality? Will they start attacking people with shear animal agression? I dont expect an apology from whites for the bad things they did because I know they feel they did nothing wrong. They will have to answer to their God for that. I have not heard any Republicans condemn McCain supporters for their hate filled comments because they are urging them and inciting hate. Face it--this kind of behavior is in the white man's nature and they are reverting back to that caveman mentality. As you can see, edcuated people do not behave in this manner. They need to get out and experience life and not hold on to that "everything belongs to me mentality". The older whites are holding on to the past. They need to go on and die so the future can progress.
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hyperbola8 months, 3 weeks ago
Well Georgia, if you remember things like the KKK, why would you want to foment religious hatred in America?
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Where Have I Seen Sarah Palin Before?
I grew up in Iran and immigrated to US to avoid living in a theocracy. Lately though, the trajectory of US politics is like the Ayatollahs. Sarah Palin was much better dressed than the average show mom paraded on Iranian TV more than 20 years ago. The show moms were typically dressed in a black veil. But that’s about the biggest difference. The rhetoric was eerily familiar. When she was finished, I knew I had seen her before. Only that it wasn’t her. It was her ideological predecessors at a different time in a different country.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/06/where-ha...
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moxxxxxxxxxx8 months, 3 weeks ago
This is evidence of why we should supports Obama who supports education for all Americans. These poor folks are driven by Palin fear tactics. They clearly cannot tell the difference between being manipulated by fear and actual fact. The ignorant will always follow their feelings even when the facts prove otherwise.
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These poor folks don't know the difference between a feeling and a thought.-
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chuck-the-canuck8 months, 3 weeks ago
The republican party has become the party of the lowest common denominator.
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bluebirdwatcher18 months, 3 weeks ago
And you think McCain doesn't support education for all Americans? Really! They may be driven by the fact that the Obama Camp threatens anyone that says something he doesn't like. He threatened the TV and Radio stations that were set to run NRA ads, telling the truth about his position on gun rights. He yells racism everytime someone says something negative about him. He only believes in free speech for himself and no one else. That is scaryreeeeeeeeeeee! He says, "get in their face". What kind of human being is this anyway. I've been around a few more years then you whippersnappers and I think I could teach you a thing or two. I've hear about these things happening in Russia and under Hitler or some dictator but never in the U.S. God help us all!
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Georgia508 months, 3 weeks ago
mox,
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Obama voted against an Illinois law that would have allowed school officials more leeway in removing troublemakers from the classroom.
Obama is the slave of teacher's unions. What they want, he does, education be damned. Period. And you tragically have neither the ability to prove otherwise nor the inclination to research how wrong you are.
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chuck-the-canuck8 months, 3 weeks ago
Just because your grandpappy and your sister/mom told you that when you were just a little cretin, doesn't necessarily make it so.
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Eagle_Eye8 months, 3 weeks ago
Wonderful post gm, it's bringing the worst out of the right wing and that is a pretty frightful thing. "My Friends", fellow Americans, does it bother you to hear this type of racist talk along with the mob mentality at these rallies???
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The fact that people stoop to a mob mentality is a horrible reflection on the American people who pride themselves on being the most progressive in the world. Some times I wish I was still computer illiterate because I didn't know racism was this alive and well in America.
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Candida8 months, 3 weeks ago
Yes, Eagle_Eye, that's one disadvantage of knowledge. Once you know something, you can never unknow it again. You can try to forget it, but it rarely works.
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Dobes_Rule8 months, 3 weeks ago
And none of those things "should" matter....he is the best candidate for President....regardless of his race! I am saddened to see the bigotry in this day and age - disgraceful.
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frctm58 months, 3 weeks ago
The angry white man is a Republican staple. They have their nuts tightened daily by Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter, and Hannity. They can't express their racism overtly but find countless ways to vent it in more subtle forms. Occasionally, they slip and just say things that are clearly racist.
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bill-smith8 months, 3 weeks ago
It's kind of sad, and to be frank a little frightening that there can be that much hatred, ignorance, and stupidity out there in America's heartland. Ignorance can be cured with education, but stupidity and hatred are the plagues that stay with a person for a lifetime. God help some of those people, they need it.
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saurabharya8 months, 3 weeks ago
followers always say what is in the minds of their leaders.........i bet Sarah talks stupid but she got a great mind for strategies....
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hyperbola8 months, 3 weeks ago
Actions often speak louder than words. I consider the actions undertaken by Palin when she had political power to be profoundly anti-american.
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Sarah Palin used AK tax dollars to fund dominionist churches
Over the past few days, I've done reporting on Sarah Palin's extensive dominionist connections--including the attempt to run her as a "stealth" dominionist candidate and her connections to some scary dominionist groups including not just "Joel's Army" folks but a far-right Christian Reconstructionist political party linked to domestic terrorism.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/06/sarah-pa...
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bluebirdwatcher18 months, 3 weeks ago
"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of what he has not reasoned into" Jonathan Swift
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Poulenc8 months, 3 weeks ago
And here you have it: increasing seize-anything desperation from those who fear that Obama will in fact win the presidency.
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Of course they are greatly threatened by the idea that the other --someone ABSOLUTELY and "dangerously" unlike themselves, as they see it--will gain power. The brighter the light, the more they scream at, and attempt to douse it.
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PLSGetReal8 months, 3 weeks ago
Now that we have "travelgate" can we now see the entire thesis of Michele Obama?
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most_reasonable8 months, 3 weeks ago
Hyperbola
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I couldn't understand your anti-semitic (read anti-jewish in this country) until the phrase: I grew up in Iran and immigrated to US
You have NO perception of the good jewish influence in America and in any world where they have been allowed to build schools, hospitals, art and entertainment centers and the like.
Time to take your ideas and hates with you back to the arab countries which practice genocide on their own people. The Sudan is nice this time of year.-
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hyperbola8 months, 3 weeks ago
Sorry I did not grow up in Iran. But I respect the opinion of the American that wrote the comment. Just like I respect the comments of this American jew, who it seems to me represents the finest traditions of american democracy.
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The End Of Israel?
By Hannah Mermelstein
I am feeling optimistic about Palestine.
I know it sounds crazy. How can I use "optimistic" and "Palestine" in the same sentence when conditions on the ground only seem to get worse?.....
.... We can never forget these things and the daily suffering of the people, and yet I dare to say that I am optimistic. Why? Ehud Olmert. Let me clarify. Better yet, let's let him clarify:
"The day will come when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights. As soon as that happens, the state of Israel is finished."
That's right, the Prime Minister of Israel is currently trying to negotiate a "two-state solution" specifically because he realizes that if he doesn't, Palestinians might begin to demand, en masse, equal rights to Israelis. Furthermore, he worries, the world might begin to see Israel as an apartheid state. In actuality, most of the world already sees Israel this way, but Olmert is worried that even Israel's most ardent supporters will begin to catch up with the rest of the world....
...Perhaps Olmert is giving American Jews too much credit here, but he does expose a basic contradiction in the minds of most American people, Jewish and not: most of us -- at least in theory -- support equal rights for all residents of a country. Most of us do not support rights given on the basis of ethnicity and religion, especially when the ethnicity/religion being prioritized is one that excludes the vast majority of the country's indigenous population. We cannot, of course, forget the history of ethnic cleansing of indigenous people on the American continent. But we must not use the existence of past atrocities to justify present ones....
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Poulenc8 months, 3 weeks ago
most_reasonable, though I applaud your post above, as a Jew and someone who lives in New York City, it's also somewhat...discordant (or even unsettling) to read your (surely unintended) condescension.
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Jews are more "inside" in this country than "outside"--so, in my opinion, your "where they are allowed" is, at least in America in 2008, inapplicable.-
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most_reasonable8 months, 3 weeks ago
No condescension. There are jews all over the world, and the ability of jews to excel and attend higher institutions of learning even in the United States is really a relatively modern occurance.
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rimbaud8 months, 3 weeks ago
It looks like it is fear of Obama which has translated to vitriol for the likes of Rev Wright and Profesor Ayers. Hey, they are not running! They have a right to deflect the smears against them. If you want to get to Obama, concentrate on him... you can call him bad words, like (oh my gosh my golly, is he really a) SOCIALIST!
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Personally, I wish he WERE a socialist... but his solutions, like his health care solution, are firmly in support of existing free-enterprise entities (like insurance companies). He has proposed little to cause conservatives the fear and loathing they are demonstrating on these boards and in the mainstream media. (P.S. The RIGHT wing in Europe are closer to our Democrats and are socialist). -
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ETproductions8 months, 3 weeks ago
We've built the greatest country on earth by recognizing what the word "united" means in our name, The United States of America. In their desperation to win at all costs, it is sad to see a once honorable man like John McCain unleash and even join a lying, smearing attack dog like Sarah Palin. What do they expect to actually win if they turn us into the Untied Stated of America?
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It's time to set aside the rethoric of the Rabid RIght and the Loony Left alike and for Americans to unite to solve the greatest challenges we have faced since the great depression. -
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purpleicon8 months, 3 weeks ago
The lynch mob mentality is the type of a redneck that is dangerous and frightening. They talk of killing, and McCain/Palin have shamefully played into that.
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awongscreen8 months, 3 weeks ago
Judging from these actions of the conservtives, I see the second coming of Nazi. Be very afraid
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