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    Georgia501 year, 2 months ago

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    Ooops. Ya missed one.

    Obama has a "Muslim Outreach Director" on staff. This person attended a target practice...er...meeting...that included Hamas and Hezbollah.

    http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/10/obama-ca...

    (Don't worry...Obama was only 47 when it happened.)

    You Jewish Obama supporters feeling the love yet?

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      Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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      Okay, Obama is culpable for the actions of an associate of an associate? Do you really want to have a 2 degree of separation applied to McCain?

      Bring it!

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        Georgia501 year, 2 months ago

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        Well, let's just go with your standard, ok?

        A visiting preacher, completely on his own, says a prayer for Paliin. You call him Palin's pastor--a lie. He is not her pastor. (Compare to Obama sitting under a racist bigot for 20 years, then when the truth is out, claims he cannot disown a racist bigot.)

        Yet here you are, "associate of an associate" in reference to an Obama staffer who reports directly to Obama and had no problem chatting up Hamas and Hezbollah reps who would have no qualms whatsoever with the murder of Jews, Christians, or Americans.

        you --> petard --> hoisted

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          hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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          You are playing with fire Georgia. Much like German oligarchs in the 1920s thought they could control the crazies.

          Sarah Palin, Neocon Pod Person
          http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/15/sarah-pa...

          The apprenticeship of Sarah Palin is an object lesson in how the neocons took over the American Right and saddled the GOP with their agenda of "big government conservatism" and perpetual war.

          You have to hand it to the neocons, however: Sarah Palin will far outdo Dan Quayle in her service to her handlers. And, who knows, what with McCain already well advanced in years, she may prove just as useful to them as was George W. Bush. From the neocons' perspective, she is indeed ready to become president, should the need should arise, her very inexperience being her chief qualification for the job. Here again, individual experience limns the larger picture: just as her neocon handlers delight in writing on such a blank slate as Sarah appears to be, so they imprinted their ideological prescriptions on an intellectually bankrupt conservative movement, which had long since lost touch with its traditional moorings.

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            hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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            Palin's preacher: Jews control the economy, that's causing all the corruption

            A new video of Sarah Palin experiencing a laying of hands at her church in Wasilla shows Sarah Palin's preacher telling the congregation - with Palin present and about to join him on stage - how Christians need to take over control of the business world, especially banking, just like the Jews (Israelites) have done. He then goes on to say that the fact that non-Christians are running the banking industry is the cause of all of the recent scandals.

            http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/26/palins-p...

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          Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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          Georgia50,

          This is the same kind of guilt by association nonsense. It's even debatable whether any of the people who attended the conference had done anything wrong, let alone the others who simply shared the same conference room with them.

          Have you ever organized/attended any conference? Are you guilty of all the crimes committed by all the people who were there? Are the people you work for guilty of those crimes as well?

          This is beyond ridiculous.

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            rimbaud1 year, 2 months ago

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            "Ayers And Obama: What Is Their Relationship?" They were both a part of the Chicago respected civic establishment. If you were the type to be active in your community, and your communty was Chicago, you probably had some relationship with Ayers and Obama and Mayor Daley. If you were the type that was afraid to get involved in your community, because it might "dirty your hands" or put you on some committees with peple who were not like you, you can today take credit for not assoociating with anyone who made a difference, good or bad, in your community.

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              Georgia501 year, 2 months ago

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              Beyond ridiculous? Interesting. The Obama campaign said it was inappropriate and that the Muslim Outreach Director should not have attended and would not have been permitted to attend had the campaign known of the presence of terrorist sympathizers.

              This is a holdover pattern from the Clinton years. Then as now, you liberals raise a defense that even those you defend don't dare to raise.

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                hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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                We should remember that the democratic party is also full of israel-firsters and that zionist organizations like the Democratic Leadership Council were prominent in foisting Clinton on America. That led to things like 56% of all government appointments made by Clinton being jews. There was nothing to object to about many of them, but others clearly demonstrated the extent to which American foreign policy has been taken over by zionists. For example, Clinton imported a rabid zionist from Australia (Martin Indyk), made him a citizen within weeks and then appointed him as special mideast envoy. It is time to put America before the israel-firsters. Which is your country of primary loyalty Georgia?

                The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel

                Sniegoski’s new book demonstrates clearly how U.S. and Israeli policies and actions with respect to Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the other Gulf states, and even most recently Georgia are all tied together in a bundle of interrelated linkages, each of which affects all the others. The right wing of Israeli politics, the neoconservatives in the U.S. who strongly support Israel, and the aging Israel lobby in the United States all have worked together, and are still doing so, to bring about more wars, regime changes, and instability, specifically the fragmentation of any Middle Eastern states that might ever conceivably threaten Israel.

                You will be treated to informative and well-written chapters on the origins of the neoconservative movement, the Israeli origins of the United States’ Middle East war agenda, and neocon planning against Iran, as well as chapters entitled “World War IV” (a very important chapter), and “Democracy for the Middle East.” A particularly important chapter on “Oil and Other Arguments for the War” argues that oil was not as important a reason for the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq as was Israel.

                This book is a veritable bible on the neocons -- and a frightening one. Anyone who thought that neocon thinking and policymaking had become passé with the political eclipse of the likes of Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, and Douglas Feith will be disquieted to find that these individuals were only the tip of the iceberg and that on all issues having to do with Israel neocon thinking lives on in policymaking councils and is about to be passed on to the next administration, whether it be Democratic or Republican.

                http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/27/the-tran...

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                  Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                  Georgia50: "you liberals raise a defense that even those you defend don't dare to raise"

                  That's because I'm free to call it as I see it. I don't know how they see it, so I can't speak for them, but to me holding someone responsible for the actions of someone who shared a conference room with an associate is beyond ridiculous.

                  I hope nobody will hold me responsible for the actions of all the people with whom I've ever shared a conference room. And that wouldn't even be once removed. I do know, that one of the people I've once listened to at a conference had tried to break up my country, and another had physically attacked a very high ranking Soviet government official on a state visit. Do I share the blame for their actions? I can't believe that you don't see how ridiculous that is.

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                hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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                Well Georgia, thank you for emphasizing the extent to which israel-firsters distort american foreign policy. Fortunately more and more jews, as opposed to zionists, are speaking out about the shame of we Americans supporting zionist terrorism.

                Why is Hezbollah, but not Israel, on the terrorism list?

                There is no evidence of terrorism by Hezbollah, which regularly condemns acts of terrorism on religious grounds. AIPAC has pressured the State Dept. into putting Hezbollah on the list on phony grounds. In contrast, there are more than 6600 documented acts of israeli state terrorism against Lebanon.

                http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/05/15/why-is-h...

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