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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
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Look ... we all know that the Republicans only hope is to try to disenfranchise as many Americans from voting as they can.
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That's because more and more Americans have been adversely affected by the Perverse Ideology that Republicanism has become.
When you Lie to launch a pre-emptive war .... when you FIGHT AGAINST Children getting health care.... when you attempt to Politicize our Judicial System ... well .... people begin to see a pattern of anti-Americanism.
The fact that Republican Policy has harmed our nation more than any Terrorist could dream of doing ... well that's it.
Here ... check out this video.
It appears that even McCain's fellow veterans think he's unfit to be president.
In fact, THEY MOCK HIM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g
If you support our troops ... support the candidate THEY support ... Barack Obama.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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Well if it is the illegals you have a problem with how come your Rep party did little to nothing to solve it.
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Hell they (shrub and company) even decided to build a 12 lane highway to the inland port of Omaha so that your western ports could be bypassed for Mexican ones, and now you are using them as a defense for your thinking?
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Well gee HannibalBarca, don't you remember the money they allotted for the fence that was going to block farmers from the water of the Rio Grande?? Here's a video of Bush talking about the border security.will work. Note behind him.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4VQnBQxCtM=related
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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LOL...already getting your excuses ready for protesting Obama's win, huh? How many times must we play this game? This isn't going to be another 51/49 deal, cons. Obama will win decisively and no amount of alleged voter fraud will be able to change that. We won't be repeating 2000 so just let it go already. ;-(
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amazed1 year, 1 month ago
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I agree that, at this point, it looks as if Obama will win handily - - but, if it's close, you have to admit that the democrats have a far more strident and eager to dispute election result track records than the Republicans.
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Even NIXON didn't dispute Kennedy's election, although it was almost certainly fraudulent.
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linda48471 year, 1 month ago
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I agree with Wolfie, the most important thing we have is our vote and if people cheat by doing what Acorn is doing and as you see it is only one sided Democrat, it takes away from our voice. One vote that is the rule. Play fair or is that the only way you all can win
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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linda4847 said "doing what Acorn is doing "
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Just what is ACORN doing? They are taking applications for registrations and after checking them out, they separate them between valid and invalid applications and turn them in. It's not their fault if some Republican that is already registered fills one out with fake information and then calls the RNC to report is so a compliant can be made. I would wager any amount of money that the Republicans are responsible for a large percentage of bad applications. Can not be proven either way but just ask yourself who would have the most to gain by destroying the creditability of an organization that is trying to get more people to vote. -
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mark-stevens1 year, 1 month ago
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Your links are useless because they are incomplete and take you nowhere.
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I can see that one is a blog and that proves nothing.
google "ACORN bailout bill" and there were about 489,000 hits.??
No joke. Now which ones points out the fact "it's that the bailout (at least at one point) was going to support (fund) ACORN." because I'm going to waste time on 489,000 hits that tell the same thing. You made the statement, so show the link from a reputable source where the bailout was going to support ACORN and not a right wing rag or blog site. -
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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OK, after researching and maybe finding the story you listed, I find that you did not give the whole story. Your claim was that the bailout money was earmarked for ACORN which was a Republican argument. But reading down further in the article you hear a comment from Barney Frank's spokesman.
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"In the end, how much of the bailout's potential profits are earmarked for ACORN? "None. Absolutely none. All funds would go to state and local governments," said Steven Adamske, spokesman for Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), the chairman of the Financial Services Committee and a lead negotiator."
Now I see that you chose to believe the Republican but I don't because at the time they were all playing politics with the bill. So I see nothing here that hasn't already been going on and that a vendetta of the Republican party by the Republican appointed federal attorneys to stop ACORN from getting more voter registration by harassment.
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amazed1 year, 1 month ago
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au contraire, fergie
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blog.heritage.org/2008/09/26/text-of-the-acorn-rel...
google ACORN bailout bill for about 489,000 other hits.
that should be enough even for you.
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Yeah, he's serious. I should have said reputable sources.
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The links are unusable because they aren't links but I can see that one is a blog site that I'm sure has unquestionable information. LMAO
"google ACORN bailout bill for about 489,000 other hits."
I asked for proof and he supplies nothing.
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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
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Nice try RIChris.
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Barack Obama has received over $60,000 in donations from active duty troops overseas. (This information is all over the internet - if you choose to do a search.)
McCain? ... ... ... A little more than $10,000.
I guess our troops don't like the fact that McCain has been fighting them on everything from releasing classified information on MIAs to fighting against the GI BILL.
Our troops are funny that way.
They expect loyalty.
If any of you want to support the troops ... vote for the candidate THEY support ... Barack Obama.
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lovemylibs1 year, 1 month ago
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Not only are they wrong, they are misleading.
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All of my liberal brethren made great efforts a few months ago to create headlines to the effect of: "Troops Support Obama 6 to 1 over McCain."
In deference to Paul Harvey, here is the rest of the story.
This 6 to 1 figure is accurate when you consider the caveats of the data.
Caveat # 1 - These figures represent active, overseas military who made contributions of over $200.
Caveat # 2 - Donations of these type for Obama = 134 donations.
Caveat # 3 - Donations of these type for McCain = 26 donations.
Caveat # 4 - These donations are through June 2008.
Caveat # 5 - Since Palin was announced these numbers have changed.
Caveat # 6 - There are approximately 250,000 active military in overseas operations.
SO - using a handy calculator, these statistics show that the donors to Obama represent a sample size of less than (0.1%). That is statistically too small of a number to use to correlate into a liberal stance of "Troops support Obama 6 to 1."
It is not reliable to say these numbers can be extrapolated, as is standard polling practice, into a general statement of the same level of support in terms of overall numbers. Polling asks questions, donations represent monetary gifts.
One can not be used to represent the other. It is wrong.
Any headline at the time that read "Troops support Obama 6 to 1" was a lie. Howard Dean even made it a talking point for the base to use, as shills are prone to do-
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tatf1 year, 1 month ago
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With so many questions concerning the sources of the donations that Obama has received, I have a problem believing that the donation from active duty GI's for Obama is not another of the Socialist left getting money into Obama's coffers illegally.
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DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago
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Great mis-leading story there "Goppy". Here, read this:
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"The analysis of campaign records found Obama has raised more than $60,000 from 134 military service men and women who are deployed overseas. McCain has raised $10,665 from 26 donors."
Now you tell us how 134 + 26 represents "The Military" overseas. So don't go and tell us that troops overseas don't support McCain. They also don't support Obama, donation-wise. If the greater percentage of troops support Obama, fine, I can live with that but don't expect us to believe "out of context" figures that don't support the totals. -
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automan9091 year, 1 month ago
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My son is in Iraq right now and says that everyone he knows is for McCain and that
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they don't trust Obama. They still remember how Obama voted to not fund our troops during the war and how that vote had cost them unnecessary lives and injuries. They hate him.-
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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GOPPY , I doubt you have ever served. From you choice of words and phrasing you sound like a 20's something who has no idea of life. The Troops are as diverse as the population of the USA, with the same diverse ideas. As for your ideas of change, I survived that once I really doubt you have any truthful idea of what you are spouting.WILL you make the same mistake?For those too young to know or remember. Change for the sake of change is seldom for the better. 1975-76 the U.S. was in turmoil, and people were demanding change. An obscure young man with good credentials(exceptional credentials compared to the aspirants today). 1977, President Carter inherited an economy that was slowly emerging from a recession. After four years of the Carter presidency, both inflation and unemployment were worse than at the time of his inauguration. The annual inflation rate rose from 4.8% in 1976 to 6.8% in 1977, 9% in 1978, 11% in 1979, and hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election. Carter had pledged to eliminate federal deficits, the deficit 1979 $27.7 billion, 1980 was nearly $59 billion. Inflation(11-12 percent), and skyrocketing interest rates(21.5 percent). July 1980, Carter received a favorable rating of only 21% in the Gallup Poll. That was the lowest rating any president, including Richard Nixon at the time of his resignation, had received since polling began in 1936.This not to mention the devastated military preparedness and income tax rates. Do we need to re-live this in 2008-2012?
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klr601 year, 1 month ago
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Yes the interest rates were high but were brought on by Nixon's Phase I, II, III, etc until the inflation could not be contained and while Ford was still in office, started coming down like an avalanche on the country. That's why he lost the election in 1976 by the way. And before you start blaming Carter for the interest rates, anyone with a little intelligent of our government knows that the president does not set the interest rates.
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,9...
Ah yes, the life and times of another Republican administration that nearly brought down the country and only by having a president like Carter was this able to be turned around. Wages were frozen for years, food, energy, and necessaries like toilet paper and coffee were allow to rise because of artificial "shortages created to circumvent the law of the Phases.
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skeek1 year, 1 month ago
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Firstly, you clearly have not comprehended the extreme dire predicament your country currently faces, but you will soon enough. What will happen to your country over the next 5 years will make the Carter years look like holidays in The Maldives.
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Secondly, Carter was a one term president because he had no choice but to pick up the pieces from the devastating years prior to his presidency; a legacy left by other presidents and either their ineptitude, outright scandalous behaviour or both. He was further lumbered with the backlash of Iran, resentful of 25 years of US interventionism aka the Shah of Iran, Iran's subsequent revolution followed by a hostage crisis which played nicely into Reagan's hands.
But mine is just an outsider's point of view from somewhere out here in the world that you arrogantly dismiss, ignorantly seek to control and now unashamedly beg to save your arse.
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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amervtrn, now you've got me confused.
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I thought you'd said that George W Bush, a two term president, couldn't be blamed for the financial problems we're having right now. If that's so than how can you blame Carter, a one term president for the financial problems that developed while he was president. You seem to be speaking out of both sides of your mouth.-
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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Ratskii you missed the point I was making. No Carter is not to blame for the current mess. What I was saying change for the sake of change is seldom for the better. The Media hype was almost word for word a match to Obama's hype, slogans,ect. If Carter with his experience could fail so badly what are Obama's chances as inexperienced as he is? Now do you understand?
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. Racism knows no color. There are White racist,Black racist,Brown racist, ECT. To some it is a hatred, to some it is distrust, and to others it is a tool of deceit. The last thing the USA needs at this time is an Amateur. There is no time for on the job training. More Socialist debt is definitely not what we need. Research what and who you vote for, check your resources, do not buy into the hype, think and reason for yourself. Being what one "guppy" called an old f*rt, I have already survived this type of situation, and really shiver at the thought of having to go through it again. Therefore the inexperience definitely concerns me. The Socialist leaning is a big red flag. His record shows nothing to recommend him. Pretty words and rhetoric may soothe the soul but do nothing to solve problems.
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Well amer, perhaps you should ask yourself why this keeps happening over and over and over. And why it is the little people that suffer everytime. Maybe our system is not what it seems?
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Bretton Woods was the system of global financial management set up at the end of the second World War to ensure the interests of capital did not smother wider social concerns in post-war democracies. It was hated by the US neoliberals - the very people who created the banking crisis.
...The immediate origins of the current meltdown lie in the collapse of the housing bubble supervised by Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, which sustained the struggling economy through the Bush years by debt-based consumer spending along with borrowing from abroad. But the roots are deeper. In part they lie in the triumph of financial liberalisation in the past 30 years - that is, freeing the markets as much as possible from government regulation.
...A study by international economists Winfried Ruigrok and Rob van Tulder 15 years ago found that at least 20 companies in the Fortune 100 would not have survived if they had not been saved by their respective governments, and that many of the rest gained substantially by demanding that governments "socialise their losses," as in today's taxpayer-financed bailout. Such government intervention "has been the rule rather than the exception over the past two centuries", they conclude.
... The financial market "underprices risk" and is "systematically inefficient", as economists John Eatwell and Lance Taylor wrote a decade ago, warning of the extreme dangers of financial liberalisation and reviewing the substantial costs already incurred - and proposing solutions, which have been ignored. One factor is failure to calculate the costs to those who do not participate in transactions. These "externalities" can be huge. Ignoring systemic risk leads to more risk-taking than would take place in an efficient economy, even by the narrowest measures.
In a functioning democratic society, a political campaign would address such fundamental issues, looking into root causes and cures, and proposing the means by which people suffering the consequences can take effective control.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/12/anti-dem...
Anti-democratic nature of US capitalism is being exposed
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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The conservative christian group have every right to go out and register voters. They don't have the right to preach in favor of a political candidate or party from the pulpit, at least not if they want to keep their tax free status.
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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Can you show me where he said anything favoring a particular candidate or party while he was the minister? I know he said some things that you don't agree with, but in all the quotes that were put online about him, I never saw one like that.
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My Church has an online site, and I've seen them warn people a number of times not to put that kind of political comment on the site as it could endanger their tax free status.-
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lovemylibs1 year ago
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120511457633523621...
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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Goppy,
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Bush's anti-science views, entanglement of religion in extending "faith-based funding," and lack of support for birth control, which would help people at the bottom more than almost anything else we could do (look at what a difference it made to the Chinese) are clearly a travesty.
But I don't think McCain would continue those policies. He's just trying to get elected, which all politicians do. I just can't paint McCain with the "Bush" brush. Anyone who attacks Bush immediately finds himself kicked out of the kingdom, and McCain has had to carefully walk a fine line.
Everyone has enemies, but even most democrats have a positive view of McCain outside of the election season.
I'm not crazy about the idea of McCain as president, but I think he would be lightyears ahead of Bush.-
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tchef1 year, 1 month ago
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McCain has voted lock step with Bush since 2000. He has supported all the policies of this administrations. Everything that he proposes is the same as Bush has proposed. He is nothing more than a continuation of this administration. And we can't afford that.
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BB641 year, 1 month ago
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Then you haven't done your studying. I was a part of the GOP that wanted to dump McCain because he stood with the Dems a little too often. McCain Finegold is little more than an incumbent protection act. It takes rights away from the electorate and gives more the the 527's, reducing their accountability.
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As to my reasons for supporting McCain, that's easy. Of the two running, he's the more conservative Democrat in the race today.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't understand why people can't see through this freaking smokescreen. This is about scaring minorities out of the vote. It's as simple as this, ACORN register people to vote, the state voter registration department check them to see if they are eligible voters, if they are not they are not allowed to vote.
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FOX and the pretentious right keep asking why the Feds haven't gotten involved...they haven't because there is no wrong doing here. If those people had voted then we could say there were wrong doings here, but since these forms were sent to the proper checkpoints none of this noise is valid!
There is also a thought process that this organization has been infiltrated by the republicans to make them seem as a bad voter registration group. There is a reason why the McCain group is not calling for the Feds to get involved...and this is mostly about the disenfranchisement of low income and minorities once again in this country.
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memestryker1 year ago
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I think you've got someone mixed up with Michael Bloomberg--but he's getting his rich buddy Lauder to fix the law temporarily so he can have a 3rd term because he doesn't want to leave--then change it back so no one else can have one. Ultimately same thing, just accomplished through a different abuse of power.
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memestryker1 year ago
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BAT, I think Obama will probably win, and I think ACORN has aggressively politically strong-armed anyone and everyone to push through their agenda, which is noble in its hope, but not always in step with reality.
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If he wins, I hope Obama is a good president, and as an American, I support them all once the election is over. But he's presenting himself as a talker and persuader, and his experience doesn't suggest a much successful innovation.
I'm leaning towards writing in Ron Paul, anyway, since I'm less than enthusiastic about the major tickets. We know that's really a vote for Obama, but I live in an area where Obama is such a shoo-in that who I vote for doesn't matter, and my state is a winner-take-all state, which obviously is moving away from, rather than towards, a more representative democracy. Until we have a close race in the state (and it's pretty deep blue), it will not be challenged in the courts.
Most members of the GOP are not the very vocal goddy freaks who seek a theocracy, just as most democrats are not the very vocal leftists who seek a socialist dictatorship.
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Well here we see the same old desperate screamers trying to dupe gullible americans.
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GOP's ACORN 'Voter Fraud' Lie Ramped Up
I had been intending to post an answer to the ongoing -- and quickly escalating -- ACORN smears being issued of late by the GOP enemies of democracy out there, who have decided to intensify their unsubstantiated assaults on the community organization, given its effectiveness at registering millions of low-income voters across the country....
... Doubtless you've heard the smears by now: that ACORN is committing "voter fraud", on behalf of Obama, in hotly contested swing states. The media has been all too happy to pass that garbage on, without bothering to note that, in fact, the organization attempts to authenticate every registration form their workers submit and by law they must turn in every form to election officials -- even if they find a registration to be fraudulent when they call the phone number submitted on the form, or if the forms are otherwise suspect or incomplete.
They do so, and they flag all questionable registration forms as being suspect before turning them in to officials.
The thanks they receive for registering millions of new voters that nobody else has bothered with, and for notifying officials about questionable registration forms when they turn them in, is that the GOP's democracy-hating propagandists and election officials run to the media shouting, "ACORN is committing voter fraud! They've turned in hundreds and thousands of fraudulent registration forms!"
Of course they have. They have to by law. But what those GOP despots of democracy always forget to mention is that it was ACORN themselves who notified officials about the potentially fraudulent and/or incomplete forms in the first place!
For the quickest idea of how the GOP ACORN scam has run amok, dutifully forwarded by the often clueless corporate media, and then the rightwing wankers in the blogosphere who are only to happy to help enable those who are lying to them -- by putting truth, democracy and country second -- take a look at the following game of rightwing "blogosphere telephone" concerning a recent news conference called by a Lake County, Indiana GOP chair in order to sound the phony alarm about "fraud" committed by ACORN....
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Frankly the whole "ACORN" campaign (about voter REGISTRATION) by the GOP seems to be an effort to distract attention from their campaign to block real VOTES.
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Vote Rigging and Suppression Ahead of the 2008 Election
Election Day is less than a month away, and a record-breaking voter turnout is expected in the 2008 race. But voting rights groups are warning that tens of thousands of registered voters might not be able to cast a ballot come November 4th.
Beyond the documented problems of electronic voting machines, thousands of names have been purged from the rolls in several states, including at least six swing states.
Democrats and Republicans are locked in court battles over these in a number of states across the country. While Democrats say they’re trying to prevent attempts to block votes, Republicans say they are trying to prevent voter fraud.
BBC investigative journalist Greg Palast travels to New Mexico, Michigan and Colorado to investigate how both Democrats and Republicans are accusing each other of trying to steal the election.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/11/vote-rig...-
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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No Klarissa, that's what the Republicans did in PA during the 2004 election and of course you would know about those things because that was your job . LMAO You can't do it now though because they're looking for that.
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Yeah there were people that went to vote after registering with a Republican group in PA and found out that someone had already voted for them. Yep, that made the news up north and was hushed up because the election was over. Same in Ohio. Voter fraud by Blackwell but with Republican control there was nothing done about it.-
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Once again we have a reading comprehension problem now don't we. The Republican group that took the registrations as you well know were the only ones that knew the information on them and cast the vote. Now they think that ACORN will do what they did. No wonder they're scared to death. They are afraid the Democrats will try to do what they did.
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orndorffter1 year, 1 month ago
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Klarissa; I work at the voting polls and nothing goes on like that, You could be jailed for somethig like that no one can copy the paper and vote under A fake name, and there is alot of scurity there noone could get away with something like that.
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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Times of peril are no time for Amateurs. Socialist debt is what will sink us.WILL you make the same mistake?For those too young to know or remember. Change for the sake of change is seldom for the better. 1975-76 the U.S. was in turmoil, and people were demanding change. An obscure young man with good credentials(exceptional credentials compared to the aspirants today). 1977, President Carter inherited an economy that was slowly emerging from a recession. After four years of the Carter presidency, both inflation and unemployment were worse than at the time of his inauguration. The annual inflation rate rose from 4.8% in 1976 to 6.8% in 1977, 9% in 1978, 11% in 1979, and hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election. Carter had pledged to eliminate federal deficits, the deficit 1979 $27.7 billion, 1980 was nearly $59 billion. Inflation(11-12 percent), and skyrocketing interest rates(21.5 percent). July 1980, Carter received a favorable rating of only 21% in the Gallup Poll. That was the lowest rating any president, including Richard Nixon at the time of his resignation, had received since polling began in 1936.This not to mention the devastated military preparedness and income tax rates. Do we need to re-live this in 2008-2012?
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If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill-
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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You still believe that ancient propaganda?
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The fact is that Carter had higher economic growth, higher wage growth and less unemployment than Reagan. Yes we had inflation, but that was mainly caused by Nixon running his part of Vietnam on borrowed money and an oil shock. We will probably see inflation again since Bush has run his wars on borrowed money (even more expensive than Vietnam), Bush has produced a major economic crash with "deregulation" corruption, and we again have an oil shock.
You also seem to forget that it was Reagan who raised taxes on average Americans (twice) and only gave tax cuts to the super rich. 40% of Americans lost their savings and became net debtors under Reagan. Reagan managed to produce a major market crash and a major corruption scandal which taxpayers had to bailout (and all the Bush brothers as well as McCain already made out like bandits in that scandal). As a country, Reagan made us the world's biggest debtors (now Bush has achieved that we pay more to foreigners than we earn from our overseas investments).
As for military preparedness, by now we know that Reagan's "star wars" was mainly a boondoggle to pay off corrupt cronies in the "defense" business.
I could go on. You should broaden your sources of information and try to get beyond the slogans fed to you by corrupt politicians.-
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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You still believe that ancient propaganda?
I survived it, I was there. I know it is true, as I have said before, been there, done that, and it cost me the shirt off my back. I'll be very,very lucky if we go through it again and that is all it cost me.
If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill-
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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That was years ago when I myself was a conservative but this conservative group today is not the same as yesteryear. Since they joined forces with the religious right they have become another animal that has an appetite for power and greed that surpasses anything that Winston Churchill could ever comprehend from a democratic government. In fact Churchill fought people like this while he was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Well Nixie, you seem to think that screaming lies loud and furiously will dupe Americans. Frankly such lies about this and other topics aresimply showing Americans how destitute of ideas and morality the GOP has become.
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This article has lots of links to sources where you could begin to educate yourself (unless your lies to americans are purposeful).
GOP lies about affordable housing initiatives and the financial crisis
Conservative and other media figures, echoing a reported strategy on the part of Republicans, have attempted to deflect blame for the financial crisis onto proponents of the expansion of affordable housing and legislation and institutions created to effect that expansion. The attacks are premised on several myths and falsehoods and, in the case of CRA and attacks on minority lending, have taken on a racial tinge.
MYTH: The 1977 Community Reinvestment Act forced lenders into irresponsible lending. ....
The suggestion that the financial crisis was caused by banks lending irresponsibly to comply with the CRA is widely discredited. According to housing experts, a large number of subprime loans were not made under the CRA, which applies only to depository institutions. A study released earlier this year by a law firm specializing in CRA compliance estimated that in the 15 most populous metropolitan areas, 84.3 percent of subprime loans in 2006 were made by financial institutions not governed by the CRA. Moreover, Janet Yellen, president and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, stated in a March 2008 speech that "studies have shown that the CRA has increased the volume of responsible lending to low- and moderate-income households".
MYTH: Excessive lending to undocumented immigrants is responsible for the financial crisis....
MYTH: Congressional Democrats, led by Barney Frank, opposed strengthening oversight over Fannie and Freddie...
In fact, Frank did not "s[i]t by." Frank's efforts to enhance regulatory oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac include: ....-
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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MYTH: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac caused the "current financial mess"...
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...in a 2006 Securities and Exchange Commission filing (available here) covering its activities in 2004, Fannie Mae stated: "We did not participate in large amounts of these non-traditional mortgages in 2004 and 2005." In the report, Fannie Mae also noted the growth of subprime lending and reported, "These trends and our decision not to participate in large amounts of these non-traditional mortgages contributed to a significant loss in our share of new single-family mortgage-related securities issuances to private-label issuers during this period." ...
...Investment banks created a demand for subprime loans because they saw it as a new asset class that they could dominate. They made subprime loans for the same reason they made other loans: They could get paid for making the loans, for turning them into securities, and for trading them-frequently using borrowed capital....
MYTH: Sen. Barack Obama's campaign has significantly more ties to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than does John McCain's...
MYTH: Democrats sought to divert funding in the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act to ACORN....
MYTH: Former President Clinton has blamed Democrats for the financial crisis....
... Clinton said, "I think the biggest mistake, by the way, that contributed to the current circumstance that almost nobody talks about, is the repeal after decades of something called the uptick rule, which allowed the hedge funds, heavily leveraged, and others to just drive down the market without any kind of automatic stoppers." In a separate interview aired that day with Matt Lauer, co-host of NBC's Today, Clinton stated of the financial situation: "[T]his thing really took off when the SEC, under this administration, exercised less oversight and they got rid of something called the uptick rule, which enabled betting down on housing stocks to go crazy."
The uptick rule, which was created in 1938, was a securities trading rule that regulated market short selling, the act of selling a stock that an investor does not own (but borrows from a broker or someone else) in anticipation that the stock's price will decrease. After a June 13, 2007, decision that became effective July 3, 2007, the SEC issued a final rule that repealed the uptick rule.....
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/12/gop-lies...-
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Pecossam1 year, 1 month ago
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hyperbola: One whom Lenin would term "useful fool"
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Your so called "Facts" fly in the face of reason, by using the same trick the reds used, to wit: Mix-in your propaganda with just enough known facts to make the uninitiated believe your tripe. For one, I happened to be working at a bank during the Carter Years. His was an abysmal administration! You saying otherwise does NOT change what I actually lived through. I saw the loans that were processed. In fact, things were getting so bad, Arkansas had to amend its usury law due to the OUTRAGEOUS interest rates.
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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PacosFor those fighting the party wars.
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Party is the madness of many for the gain of a few.-Alexander Pope
If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill
sam glad to see I'm not the only one who survived the Carter years. If these children had any idea they would run for the hills.-
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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"If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill"
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As long as you paste this quote I will paste my comment.
That was years ago when I myself was a conservative but this conservative group today is not the same as yesteryear. Since they joined forces with the religious right they have become another animal that has an appetite for power and greed that surpasses anything that Winston Churchill could ever comprehend from a democratic government. In fact Churchill fought people like this while he was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. -
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jovial1 year, 1 month ago
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If you had the horrible experience of actually reading the accompanying story of this post. Please take a look at this one submitted by hyper a couple of days ago.
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/10/gops-aco...
It seems that conservatives just can't seem to steer away from personal attacks. It's because they are losing on every other issue. The strategy is to demonize theri opponent so people will vote for a less savory candidate. Appalling isn't it?-
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tatf1 year, 1 month ago
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For a Socialist to complain about Republicans making personal attacks ought to put down the bong and take a look at the real world. Try reading a newspaper or listen to the "news". The attacks against Sarah Palin, her husband, and her children have been generated by very disturbed people. Obviously people who suffer from deeplcognitive impairment
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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I'm having problems understanding why I end up with spam when I post a YouTube video when this whole story is from a McCain video. Would one of the nice people from Propeller please send me a message and let me know what the problem was with my post so we can correct the problem.
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All I did was contradict the statement of tatf and linked a couple of YouTube videos that showed McCain/Palin supporters at a rally.
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. Racism knows no color. There are White racist,Black racist,Brown racist, ECT. To some it is a hatred, to some it is distrust, and to others it is a tool of deceit. The last thing the USA needs at this time is an Amateur. There is no time for on the job training. More Socialist debt is definitely not what we need.
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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amervtrn,
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I agree that bigotry comes in all shapes and sizes. And I do fear that Obama is a rank amateur, especially watching him just going through the primary election process. He was even less aware than Palin at first, and it's amazing to see the left attack her, since Obama was way behind the curve at one point. He's learned to talk the talk, though, and that sells, even if he hasn't yet walked the walk.
I think sexism is still more socially acceptable than racism in the U.S. (and the world), and many women have just learned to let it slide off and plow ahead. I vehemently disagree with Palin on abortion and birth control, but I'm amazed at the venomous attacks using traditional anti-female epithets by people here who frame themselves as "progressive."
I think Obama will win just on popular appeal. He's a very attractive guy, he has a very engaging speaking voice, and he makes the right promises. His followers don't seem much concerned with his political views--including some far more discomforting to me than ACORN, Rev. Wright, and his voting record. What about his current support for the U.N., George Soros, and Michael Bloomberg's anti-U.S. political views that are featured right on his campaign website? Why aren't people concerned about that on both sides of the aisle?
But it's easier to frame it as racism, because that's dismissive, and easy to toss into the conversationa and side-track it.
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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You really should research what you are voting for.If you think it hasn't happened before study history and economics. Just because you have never lived through it doesn't mean it has never happen.Learn to think not follow the Hype.
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This is supposed to be an election for president not PR rock star. You are hiring the CEO of Firm USA. Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy?
If you complain about Palin's experience to be VP candidate where does that leave Obama? She has more real experience than he has. Or is Obama really running as Biden's VP?For those fighting the party wars.
Party is the madness of many for the gain of a few.-Alexander Pope
If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill-
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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You know amervtrn, I am not too impressed by Winston Chruchill.
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Did you know that he gassed Iraqis when the Brits occupied Iraq for cheap oil? Churchill was just another of the imperialists willing to kill people all over the world for power and money. -
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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"If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill"
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As long as you paste this quote I will paste my comment.
That was years ago when I myself was a conservative but this conservative group today is not the same as yesteryear. Since they joined forces with the religious right they have become another animal that has an appetite for power and greed that surpasses anything that Winston Churchill could ever comprehend from a democratic government. In fact Churchill fought people like this while he was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
"You really should research what you are voting for.If you think it hasn't happened before study history and economics"
That is true
1929 stock market crashes Herbert Hoover
1986 Black Monday Ronald Reagan
2008 market. rash for a week G H W Bush
If you don't know what these have in common than you haven't researched what you're voting for. Add on top of that the Republican policies of deregulation which McCain supported until this crash and you have more reasons to trust Obama than you have to trust McCain with Phil Gramm by his side.
Vote for "Change You Can Believe In" from Obama and not the "Change Is Coming" by McCain which only means same polices different Republican.
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mark-stevens1 year, 1 month ago
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It is not VOTER FRAUD... it is voter registration fraud. I think that there is people getting voters on a quota basis to keep their jobs. Some of the voter registrant are.. R,r,r,r, Smith or Tony Romo... I doubt without Id they will be voting in Nevada
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Nixie
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All voter request by absentee are checked for validation by the election board before they are handed out. So try to make up another lie while you're at it because what you are doing is accusing the election board as being a party to voter fraud.-
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Nixie1 year, 1 month ago
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In Ohio, most dramatically, an individual can register to vote between September 30 and October 6, then immediately receive an absentee ballot. Existing and brand-new electors also can cast ballots at early-voting centers. This is a gourmet recipe for voter fraud.
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What if some new registrants turn out to be non-citizens? Or felons? Or gung-ho 16-year-olds who only look 18? No problem. Why, we'll just fish out their ballots from the pile. Uh-oh. The secret ballots all look alike and no longer can be tied to any given voter.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YWQ3OGI1MjEzN...-
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lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago
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Yes Nixie, IN PERSON. I've lived there for 30 years and have voted absentee. When I voted absentee ballot, I had to do it in the election board's office and seal it up and then hand it to them. I'll grant a difference if someone is disabled but the ballot is sent to the person's registered address. What I'm trying to say is the election board would not give an absentee ballot and let you leave with it when I was there.
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As the story is saying, you can register and then receive a ballot but what they didn't say is you have to show proof of identity and residency in the state of Ohio. An electric bill in your name at the address given is sufficient along with proof of your identity. But all are checked before they are given out.
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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You have a really wild imagination. None of that is happening at all. You're lying, Nixie. And for someone who hated McCain before you loved him and loved Palin 5 minutes after you heard of her existence, that's really, REALLY sad. ;-(
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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Nixie, this is such a pile of cr**. First, ACORN hasn't been convicted of anything. Remember the firings of republican federal prosecutors because they wouldn't push cases that they knew they couldn't get convictions on just before the 2006 elections. Well, that is what this is all about. They got rid of republican prosecutors that had any personal convictions and put in a bunch of people that would prosecute a bunch of bogus cases a few weeks before the election.
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Now the republican cheerleaders are crying out that they are guilty before the investigation is finished. Guess you don't believe in America's justice system.-
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4thchance1 year, 1 month ago
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You should say,
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(Acorn has not YET been convicted of wrong doing.) That will come a little later.
Stop your goofy spin on this issue. Acorn and Obama were working together. The DemoRats are going to be in big trouble with this Acorn crap. Voter Fraud, Intimidation of banks to lend money to high risk people....Intimidation that the Republicans TRIED to stop a long time ago. This looks really bad for both Acorn and Obama. In fact, it appears that Acorn and Obama did all this deliberately to ruin our economy and to win the election. By what ever way they can. Cheating, lying, voter fraud, it's all there!
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 1 month ago
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Who cares about ACORN? If the local election boards do their jobs, and authenticate voter registrations properly, it's not an issue. What's all the fuss about? Are you saying that local election boards EVERYWHERE aren't doing their jobs?
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
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Leaders like McCain who lurch from "the economy is fundamentally strong" to "the economy is in crisis" in the space of two hours are too risky for America.
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Leaders who grasp at the remotest connections trying to win by smear campaigns while having no ideas how to lead the country are too risky for America.
Believing that the issue is William Ayers or Acorn or even Troopergate is too risky for America. As Bill CLinton so aptly put it, "It's the economy, stupid."
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