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    y_soitenly1 year, 2 months ago

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    psychohose...,

    Awright tough guy... Show me and the world, for that matter, the official birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama that wasn't doctored or photo-shopped or altered in any shape or form, that proves without a reason of doubt, that he was actually born in the United States of America.

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      y_soitenly1 year, 2 months ago

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      psychohose....,

      We're still waiting!

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        epiphannyy1 year, 2 months ago

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        Here you go.

        http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_th...

        This is the factcheck.org site that verifies the authenticity of Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate.

        Quit spreading lies and hate. I realize the reason you, and others like you, never provide back-up for the rumors you spread is because they are all lies and therefore no reliable back-up exists, but realize that back-up exists for the TRUTH. Even Obama's "Muslim" upbringing has been debunked. I'll provide back-up for that in another post because I don't want this one deleted as spam.

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          Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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          Nice smack down! Next?

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            y_soitenly1 year, 2 months ago

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            epiphannyy,

            Oh BS!
            Show us the "long form version" of this birth certificate. You can't and they can't / won't either.

            FTA of factcheck...
            The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

            factcheck.org is biased and unreliable.

            http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2083671/p...

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              Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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              Sccccrrrraaaaaape!

              Hear that? That's the sound of goalposts being moved.

              I find factcheck pretty brutal to both sides. Perhaps we need another site :factcheckcheck?

              You do know that factcheck.org is run by the conservative philanthropic Annenberg Foundation, right?

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                Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago

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                That of the Chicago Annenberg Challange that Obama gave money to ACORN and Ayres along with very far left groups with the revolution views of Ayres?

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                  Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                  I think you need to do more research into AF. It's long been a bastion of paleo-conservatism. The Annenberg Challenge was hardly 'far left', though obviously Ayers was. The challenge was tried in several major cities.

                  BTW, when did Obama give money to Ayers? OR when did the CAC give money to ACORN? I think you're confusing your talking points. How very Palinesque of you!

                  'You betcha!'

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                    techsupport1 year, 2 months ago

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                    The "Annenberg" in question was Walter Annenberg. He was a billionaire and diplomat:

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg

                    FTA:

                    "After Richard M. Nixon was elected President, he appointed Annenberg as ambassador to the Court of St. James's in the United Kingdom."

                    ""...the Reagans often celebrated New Year's Eve with the Annenbergs."

                    Appointed ambassador by Nixon, good pal of the Reagans...yeah, sounds like a real "far left" liberal, doesn't he?

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                Dionys1 year, 2 months ago

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                " but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department."

                Which department determines if one is a citizen by law?

                Oh yeah.

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                  Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                  y_soitenly: "factcheck.org is biased and unreliable."

                  Here is another one:

                  'When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.

                  “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us.'

                  http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/20...

                  I'm afraid that no amount of facts or information would satisfy you because you simply don't want to believe the truth and are grabbing at straws to prevent the seemingly inevitable.

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                    y_soitenly1 year, 2 months ago

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                    Candida,

                    Here you go... watch this video in it's entirety.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE

                    A special ^5 goes out to Patience for providing this link.

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                      Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                      I've already seen it. It's B.S. If the State of Hawaii is satisfied that he was born there, why aren't you?

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                        Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                        If this youtube video is so authoritative, where are the sources? What if there was a youtube video stating the BC was real (and there are probably several)? Would you believe it so immediately? Somehow, I doubt it.

                        You know, just because someone went to the trouble of slapping together a video and posting it on the Internet, doesn't make it factual.

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                          y_soitenly1 year, 2 months ago

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                          Tangent001,

                          Yeah but...

                          It's all about the "form" that it was printed on.
                          When I was born in the US a long time ago, my birth certificate was written, stamped, dated, embossed, and signed, using the standard LONG Form. Everybody that I know and associate with, (and I know alot of people) that were born in the US, had the same kind of forms issued. They were ALL written on a LONG form.
                          It didn't matter which state you were from, because everybody had their birth information on the same kind of forms. The same kind of piece of paper.
                          It didn't matter if you were born in the 1950's or the 1960's or the 1970's.

                          Obama is what... 47 years of age? So if he was actually born in the US in let's say, 1961, then his official US birth certificate would have been issued in lengthy details on a LONG form.
                          This is what brings speculation to the table.
                          Why is it that the only piece of paper shown of Barack Obama's so-called US birth certificate, has been copied and shown to the world with very limited details, on a short-form?

                          Go ahead and continue to neg me...I really don't care. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it, if you do.

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                            Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                            Thing is, you accept a youtube video as authoritative, but not the State of Hawaii nor the State Dept.

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                              CRYMTYPHON1 year, 2 months ago

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                              OUCH!
                              sic em, tangent!

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                              Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                              BTW, whenever I've gotten my BC, it's been the short form, and it was a white-on-black print from the microrfiche. Admittedly, that was over 20 years ago.

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                          epiphannyy1 year, 2 months ago

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                          You beat me to it...lol

                          Isn't in ironic that people are calling factcheck.org "biased" but then post things from YouTube and freerepublic.com like they are objective and reliable news sources? It would really be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

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                            Sabretooth1 year, 2 months ago

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                            Try to be patient and remember many of these right wingers are borderline insane.

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                        Patience1 year, 2 months ago

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                        Barack Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Confirmed
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC54PXA0jG0

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                          Candida1 year, 2 months ago

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                          This is BS, and so is the next one you've posted.

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                          Patience1 year, 2 months ago

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                          Here is another
                          Obama Birth Certificate Fraud Proof
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE

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                            Patience1 year, 2 months ago

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                            Google
                            factcheck bias

                            see what comes up

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                        Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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                        y_

                        Psycho can't show you anything he is locked in a cell at an institution where he is so far back in the dark he has to ask if the sun is shinning. Once in awhile he even asks me. LOL

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                          Dionys1 year, 2 months ago

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                          "Awright tough guy... Show me and the world, for that matter, the official birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama that wasn't doctored or photo-shopped or altered in any shape or form, that proves without a reason of doubt, that he was actually born in the United States of America."

                          Sorry. As logic goes, that fails. He asserts that he's a citizen. By the laws of this country he's a citizen. If he's not, then bring it to court and have him extradited to his country of birth as an illegal immigrant. Otherwise stop spreading your crapola.

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                            Dionys1 year, 2 months ago

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                            "Awright tough guy... Show me and the world, for that matter, the official birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama that wasn't doctored or photo-shopped or altered in any shape or form, that proves without a reason of doubt, that he was actually born in the United States of America."

                            Sorry. As logic goes, that fails. He asserts that he's a citizen. By the laws of this country he's a citizen. If he's not, then bring it to court and have him extradited to his country of birth as an illegal immigrant. Otherwise stop spreading your crapola.

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                            SpareChange1 year, 2 months ago

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                            - Hussein is an ARAB name, not a muslim name.

                            - The Hawaii State Dept. of Health made an official statement back in June of this year declaring Obama's birth certificate is authentic and valid.

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                              Tangent0011 year, 2 months ago

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                              Well, EVERYBODY knows the Hawaii Dept. of State is a bunch of pot-smoking, surfers. They probably thought his name was Obonga. Heh, DUDE!

                              (I hope this comes across as satire)

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                              LAWriter1 year, 2 months ago

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                              WHERE IS YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE y_soitenly?

                              WHAT SCHOOLS DID YOU GO TO AS A CHILD, y_soitenly?

                              WHAT CHURCHES HAVE YOU BEEN INSIDE y_soitenly?

                              ANSWER y_soitenly or we can conclude you have NO INTEGRITY.

                              BTW John McCain was born in PANAMA

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