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Posted By Wolfie2007 1 year, 2 months ago in NewsWho is Barack Obama? Is he the thoughtful, moderate guy he's appeared to be in the first two presidential debates? Or is he a closet radical? The election is less than a month away, and we still don't know.
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Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago
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Both Sen. Obama and Mr. Ayers spoke at a testimonial dinner for Rashid Khalidi, a former member of the Palestine Liberation Organization and a founder of the rabidly anti-Israel Arab American Action Network, when Mr. Khalidi left the University of Chicago for Columbia University. Sen. Obama lectured part time at the University of Chicago law school from 1993 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004.-
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Karlyc1 year, 2 months ago
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EHS1 year, 2 months ago
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Obama states in his book, The Audacity of Hope, "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." He has had questionable friendships throughout his life even in college. What do we know about his college, Pakistan roommates? His associations all appear radical even with this Acorn group whose actions are questioned by protesting and intimidating bankers and their families to make them give out loans to people who coudn't afford them.Then Obama takes in Frank Raines as an advisor, who took $90 million dollars from Fannie Mae while working only 6 years there. And now we have to deal with all the voting registration fraud. This is just like his Socialist cousin Raila Odingo in Kenya who caused so much distress while running for president and lost., leaving the country in turmoil last Dec. 07. Is Raila in the country to help with registration??
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crespi1 year, 2 months ago
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Since you conservatives hate Muslims so much could you please teel me why so many ultra-conservative (formerly American based) corporations are moving their main offices to Dubai and other Muslim countries?
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Also, if the goal of the Iraq "war" was to bring them Democracy why are you so anti-Muslim as to constantly let them know you feel they are not welcome?-
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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I'm still trying to figure out how cons think we can win a so called war on terrorism if we behave as if all Muslims are terrorists. That doesn't seem like a very realistic approach to convincing people our way of life is worth emulating but maybe that's just me. ;-(
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amervtrn1 year, 2 months ago
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Research what and who you vote for, check your resources, do not buy into the hype, think and reason for yourself. This is supposed to be an election for president not PR rock star. You are hiring the CEO of Firm USA. Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy, with questionable judgement? If you complain about Palin's experience to be VP candidate where does that leave Obama? She has more real experience than he has. Or is Obama really running as Biden's VP? Birds of a feather flock together. With friends like his, why would the USA need any enemies?
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If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill-
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djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago
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"I have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States," McCain said
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"He's a decent family man, a citizen who I just happen to have serious differences with on fundamental questions." McCain said -
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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I think McCain is dangerously unstable and unfit to lead. I didn't trust George W Bush to lead our country effectively and he didn't prove me wrong even once. -
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amervtrn1 year, 2 months ago
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Age and experience unfortunately can't be give to the young, but you can try to educate them to avoid the mistakes of the past. Whether they learn or not is up to them. Experience is the best teacher, but it charges a hell of a price.If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain--Sir Winston Churchhill
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ETproductions1 year, 2 months ago
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Karlyc wrote: "It turns out that terrorist Ayers actually ghost-wrote Obama's first "memoir""
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This is just more Palinopsia. It's a real medical disorder. Look it up.
You see "facts" drawn from a well established liar, Andy Martin, and end up thinking lies are facts because they keep dancing before your eyes. Obama wrote both his books with his own hand. His connection with Mr. Ayers is tenuous at best. Ayers is not a terrorist. He did some terrible things 40 years ago when Obama was a child, but has redeemed himself and is a prominent member of his community today.
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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What was McCain's class rank, Klarissa? And how many years did Palin spend hopping among multiple colleges to get a journalism degree, Klarissa? Please remind us and remind us what she told Katie Couric when asked what news sources she reads to stay informed. Thanks. ;-P
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RedstateLib1 year, 2 months ago
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" Ayers is not a terrorist. He did some terrible things 40 years ago when Obama was a child, but has redeemed himself and is a prominent member of his community today."
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Right and given the chance by technicality and a rich father to pave his way Timothy McViegh may have redeemed himself and become a prominent member of his community today. Maybe we should have just overlooked his actions as well?-
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ETproductions1 year, 2 months ago
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Timothy McVeigh deliberately killed 173 innocent people. The Weather Underground set off a few bombs intended to do nothing but property damage. The only people who ever were injured or killed by their activities were 3 of their own members when a device they were building went off in their hands.
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I'm certainly not excusing what Ayers did. But to equate the two shows your depth of blind hatred.
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mama-d1 year, 2 months ago
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WAKE UP sheeple before it is too late. obomba is lying through his teeth and you all want to run up for a second serving. maybe most of you are not old enough to remember slick willie and his "i did not have sexual relations with that woman" speech but obomba's "he is just a guy who lives in my neighborhood" speech sounded so similar in delivery. and low and behold the truth came out about the true connection and it was a little more than "just a guy in my neighborhood". his constant lies amaze me that sheeple are still moving towards the slaughter with this guy. maybe it is his hypnotic style of speaking where he hisses after each s. sooth smooth sounds special........HELLO ARE YOU STILL AWAKE?
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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After I get mine for impersonating Goppy, slate. And how typical that you'd ridicule those of us who can't keep track of cons' multiple Propeller personalities (because this or that con has been banned multiple times) rather than the poster who was banned. Just like you, slate. Warped perspective as usual.
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vor1 year, 2 months ago
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That's BS and you know it! I just read the article you are referring to. It, like all of this krap is insinuation.No actual evidence of impropriety just your sleazy little imaginations running wild. Do you really think Obama sympathizes with terrorists? That he is running for this office to give away America? If he did his damndest he still couldn't compete with the damage done by the Bush administration.
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You would have attacked Hillary in the same way if she was the nominee. Just absolutely disgusted with the behavior of my fellow Americans. You don't realize the damage you are doing to this country. Nor apparently realize the damage those you previously brought to power have done. We will all go down on the same sinking ship.-
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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slate? C'mon, slate...Why do cons like to pretend that Bush's low 20s approval ratings are because 80% of Americans are Democrats? Maybe the Democrats had some help in like-minded Independents and Republicans? Do the math... You people rejected your own party for a RINO. Was that due to lies by those on the left, slate (besides McCain's lies, that is)? C'mon...What happened to the party of personal responsibility, slate? Where'd it go? ;-(
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Goppy1 year, 2 months ago
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Ahhh ... the Wolfie / redtomato tag team.
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What's happened to Nixie, redtomato? Has she lost interest in joining you in fomenting your typical propaganda?
I hope not ... I like when Nixie posts ... she does a lot to show the depths of Moral Decay among the Right Wing.
Of course ... please don't think I'm selling Wolfie and you, redtomato (aka luvmyprez & AlphaGnosis) short.
Fact is ... I look for your posts because they do such a good job of displaying for all to see .... exactly how Morally Depraved your position is.
Hey ... there's a story that our friend Beau7890 posted elsewhere on Propeller. I hope you check it out.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/13/the-man-...
It goes into fine detail about the profile of Andy Martin ... apparently, he's one of the inspirations for much of the garbage that you and the other 'Government Hating' Right Wingers get your material from.
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"Andy Martin is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of 'moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.' "
So ... blast away with your Lies, Cheats, Dis-Information, and blatant Propaganda ... but just remember ... ultimately the source is from loony paranoiacs.
And please ... keep posting your regular garbage.
America saw this with the whole 'Swift-Boat' thing.
We've been through 8 of some of the worst years in American History.
George W. Bush has the lowest recored approvals.
George W. Bush the president you have unwaveringly supported from your first day on Netscape ... initially as luvmyprez ... then as AlphaGnosis ... and now ... well .... now you don't bring up his name any longer ... has the lowest recorded approvals.
Americans have awoken to this type of garbage.
'Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.'
I realize that Wolfie, redtomato, Nixie, Klarissa ... y'all don't have a very high opinion of American intelligence ... and God knows ... when Bush was given a second term ... I had my doubts ... but ... I'm hopeful that Americans have finally realized that the Neo-Con ideology that you support ... is contrary to traditional American Values.
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toph19731 year, 2 months ago
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Hey wolfie, you've posted the same garbage on here twice this week already. The ayers association has been debunked yet you keep trying to cram the same lies down our throat. We've all hear about Wright. All of this has been brought out by the Clinton Campaign. There is nothing new here. Nothing spectacular or a scandal. You cons are sure narrow minded.
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GWHayduke1 year, 2 months ago
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Putting together a coherent, intelligent and accurate post is somehow a show of 'ignorance'?
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Right!
Parroting garbage about 'Muslim religions', 'terrorist associates', 'campaign plane odors' and 'birth certificates' is the height of intelligent discourse!
What Americans want to know now, during this time of economic peril, can be found in the tabloid submissions paraded about by the frightened bigots right here on our own propeller.
Good luck with that, cor, pc & woofie.
What'll you be posting on 11/5?
More obstructionist nonsense to further disparriage the country's leader, President Obama in an effort to prevent the betterment of our great land?
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toph19731 year, 2 months ago
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GW wrote "Parroting garbage about 'Muslim religions', 'terrorist associates', 'campaign plane odors' and 'birth certificates' is the height of intelligent discourse!"
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Judging from the posts on here it would seem that intelligent discourse is something lost on the right.
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amervtrn1 year, 2 months ago
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The USA's enemies are drooling at the thought of Obama. They love the naïve inexperience weak amateur. Where there have been young leaders in the past, they had over a decade of (real)experience, yet we paid a price for it. The last thing the USA needs at this time is an Amateur. There is no time for on the job training. More Socialist debt is definitely not what we need. Research what and who you vote for, check your resources, do not buy into the hype, think and reason for yourself. Being what one "guppy" called an old f*rt, I have already survived this type situation, and really shiver at the thought of having to go through it again. Therefore the inexperience definitely concerns me. The Socialist leaning is a big red flag. His record shows nothing to recommend him.His choice of associates is a fair indicator of where his preferences lie. Pretty words and rhetoric may soothe the soul but do nothing to solve problems. Especially when the come from they Socialist/Communist handbook.I've hear it before.
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beymudakov1 year, 2 months ago
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amervtrn: “The USA's enemies are drooling at the thought of Obama. They love the naïve inexperience weak amateur.”
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You know dude I’m sick and tired of stupid and hateful people like you! Tell me you shadow of McCain’s brain: who has experience?
If you would say to your buddy bomb, bomb, bomb Iran or send all the cigarettes to Iran so they all can die it’s fine it’s just saying how incredibly stupid you are. But when an old fart claiming that he wants to be our next president saying such things – it’s dangerous!
When guy, who want to be our next president saying: We all Georgians now. What that means to the Russians? That just reinforce their claim that USA was behind the attack on South Ossetia!
In the same speech the same genius said that in the 21-st century countries don’t invade other countries! Really! What about USA invaded Iraq and Afghanistan? Maybe it was in 20-th century?
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beavith11 year, 2 months ago
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its a dangerous world.
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dropping a rookie into the role as the free world's leader makes it even more dangerous.
the US had a UN mandate for iraq and afghanistan. Russia did not have any reason to invade Georgia, other than they could.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 2 months ago
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As a member of the free world, I am more scared of another shrub like leader than Obama.
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shrub has been the biggest upheaval this planet has seen since WW!!.
And you want more.
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beavith11 year, 2 months ago
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biggest upheaval? are you kidding?
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i'd say the collapse of the old USSR or the growth of China India, Brazil, the Tigers, dwarf anything that we've done.
you seem to neglect 9/11 as having any importance.
do you think that if the WTC was still standing any of this would have happened?
blaming Bush is the simpleton's choice, but if that's enough to get the dems elected, who cares how hypocritical it is. victory over substance.-
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HannibalBarca1 year, 2 months ago
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Get real for once, 9/11 was a terrible event that was financed by Saudi and carried out by an organization in Afgan,,,,,,,so why Iraq
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Simple,,, read about PNAC, Bill Kristol, dickless cheney, rummy, wojo, and others who are firmly entrenched in the Rep party and the WH.
And shrub is a puppet on a string.
A figurehead, just like the other loud mouth in Iran.
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amervtrn1 year, 2 months ago
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As I have said before Racism knows no color. There are White racist,Black racist,Brown racist, ECT. To some it is a hatred, to some it is distrust, and to others it is a tool of deceit. The last thing the USA needs at this time is an Amateur. There is no time for on the job training. More Socialist debt is definitely not what we need. Research what and who you vote for, check your resources, do not buy into the hype, think and reason for yourself. Being what one "guppy" called an old f*rt, I have already survived this type situation, and really shiver at the thought of having to go through it again. Therefore the inexperience definitely concerns me. The Socialist leaning is a big red flag. His record shows nothing to recommend him. Pretty words and rhetoric may soothe the soul but do nothing to solve problems.But I've heard them before, straight out of the Communist Handbook.
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Educate yourself!
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djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago
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"I have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States," McCain said
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"He's a decent family man, a citizen who I just happen to have serious differences with on fundamental questions." McCain said -
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toph19731 year, 2 months ago
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Ahh, yes the typical con lie "if dems win we'llhave arabs dancing in caves." All the cons on here were predicting attacks, etc after the dems took control of congress. None of which happened. Why the difference now? Keep cowering in fear in your closet while rational, openminded people fix the mess that your party created.
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beavith11 year, 2 months ago
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ratational open minded people?!?! the DEMOCRATS?
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the democrats that can throw stones? the democrats that can run congressional investigations? the democrats that don't have a plan, and what few plans they DO have will damage the nation? THOSE democrats?-
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amazed1 year, 2 months ago
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much of what Obama says he wants to do is almost a repeat of Johnson's great society.
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Now, some people think that was a good thing, but many other analysts believe that Johnson's "great society" policies were directly responsible for the breakdown of the African-American family, the increase in the rate of poverty, especially in families where poverty spans generations, the exponential increase in the rate of out-of-wedlock births which indirectly led to the gang culture.
one of the other things Obama would like to do is redistribute income "more fairly". He says he will do this by raising taxes on the "rich"people and giving "rebates" to those who are in too low an income bracket to pay income tax. First, if you didn't pay it in the first place, it's not a rebate, it's a handout. 2nd, how do you know that that guy that you deem to have made too much money didn't work 80 or 100 weeks busting his butt to make that? How do you know that he didn't employ several other people? Cries of "make it more fair" that are really saying "soak the rich" don't make things more fair, they just make our society even more divided.
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
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You're right, amazed... that CEO may have worked 2X as hard for his 300+ X as high wage... we should give him a break!
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I think capping CEO salaries at 50 times the wage of the lowest-paid worker would be fair. You pay your workers a decent 20$ per hour, you can STILL earn $2MILLION per year, which should be PLENTY for anyone to live on. If you want more, and the company makes sufficient profits, pay your base-level employees more, and give yourself 50X the pay raise!-
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
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That's not altogether a bad idea... it would ensure that the best and brightest are encouraged to look to government as an option instead of private enterprise.
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But the flip-side is it might put pressure on government to raise the President's salary instead of lowering those of other CEOs. It also prevents companies from raising the salaries of the CEOs. Putting a limit which is in relation to the company's lowest-paid worker makes it easy to raise the CEO salary in good times, by paying the backbone of the organization what they deserve. It would provide a direct incentive to management to pay the lower rungs adequately, because their own salaries would be directly dependant on it.
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amazed1 year, 2 months ago
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I have no problem with a reasonable cap on CEO's salaries. Frankly, I cannot believe that there haven't been stockholder revolts. Like, what are these boards of directors thinking?
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But $250K is NOT 300 times more than an average worker, and in some parts of the country, makes you comfortable, but not really rich. In addition, while a company that is formed as as C corporation, will pay corporate tax and the the owner/CEO will generally only pay income tax on his/her actual income, many small businesses are formed as S corporations or LLC's. In this case, any profit the company makes is taxed as personal income to the partners, regardless of whether they received it, it was ploughed back into the company or, as is often the case, simply a book profit. That will, indeed, put MANY small business owners (even quite a few who are struggling to keep their employees employed and their heads above water) above this $250 K mark.-
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
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Or they could re-incorporate their businesses to get the most advantageous tax strategy for themselves, which they probably do already.
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No, 250K is not 300 times more, but I can pretty much guarantee that there are those pulling a whopping 30K that work JUST as hard as the guy who gets 250K.
The issue is fairness, and people are constantly clamoring about the value of hard work to make a good living, but there are some that put in that hard work, and struggle daily because they are not paid fairly for it. Either they aren't good at asking for raises, or the opportunities aren't there, or they really enjoy what they do, see value in it, and aren't driven purely by the almighty dollar.
Oftentimes, people take advantage of a generous nature.
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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But I think the question I asked was regarding you cons' track record of mind-numbingly poor judgement over the last 8 years, amazed. Why are you somehow convinced your words and opinions are now credible or compelling after the horrific damage, death, destruction, and financial ruin caused by your lack of judgement? Try to focus...I'm not asking you about Obama, or Johnson, or Carter, or Bill Clinton or even about John McCain, really. My question is about cons' decision making. What have you learned from backing a colossal failure of a President in George W Bush (you voted for him TWICE. wow. I would have shredded my voter registration by now) and the extremely corrupt and criminal GOP which was kicked out of power in '06 that gives you the confidence that you now have sound critical thinking and decision making skills? Thanks.
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amazed1 year, 2 months ago
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((But how do you know what qualifies as a plan that will or won't work?))
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How about YOU focus? That was the question you asked and that was the question I answered, but I should have known better than to try to have an intelligent, reasoned conversation with you, Meso, because you are so blinded by your hate, you just can't seem to be civil.
I didn't insult you, or your intelligence or anything else about you and your reply is a personal attack. How would you know who I voted for in any election, let alone the last two? Did you follow me into the booth and spy on me?
You make the assumption continuously that anyone who is not in the tank for Obama MUST be a Bush sychophant. That is so far from the truth that it's ridiculous. if it WERE true, Bush's numbers would be approaching 50% as are McCain's (who, by the way, I'm not particularly fond of anyway).
But again, I don't know why I'm bothering to talk to you anyway -- you've made up your mind that you know more about everyone else than we know about ourselves and it's all ugly and YOUR mind is completely closed.
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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If anyone is drooling because of Obama, it's panic-stricken cons who are re-posting the same, sad lies they've been posting all year to no effect other than giving Obama's campaign a boost. Please keep posting these "stories" so normal people can see how unhinged cons are becoming more unstable and frantic by the day. Erratic cons supporting an unstable John McCain--a recipe for embarrassment and failure. ;-(
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SpareChange1 year, 2 months ago
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Wolfie, in your little tiff-rant above, you point out the Univ. of Chicago as if it's a significant link between Obama and Khalidi.
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But if the Univ. of Chicago is (in)famous for anything these days, it's because that is the place where trickle-down economics, the failed theory both Bush and McCain espouse, was born, championed by Milton Friedman and future noecons like Paul Wolfovitz. -
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Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago
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It's time to move on from Ayers, It's already been proven he lied about their relationship.
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Now we have Rashid Khalidi a former member of the PLO he is another buddy of Obama's I wish someone would ask Barry about him. Also, is Khalidi the one who paid Barry's tuition at Harvard Law School? Someone did because we know that Barry's grades were too low at Columbia to get a scholarship and too low for even an affirmative action placement. Barry didn't have the dough so who paid the tuition?-
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Goppy1 year, 2 months ago
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Speaking of Liars.
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Did y'all know that John McCain was an adulterer ... and ... even worse ... he abandoned his own children?
Did you know that McCain fought AGAINST Vietnam Veterans from getting documents de-classified that related to MIA's?
Did you know that Sarah Palin is going around claiming she's been COMPLETELY exonerated of any unethical questions regarding trooper-gate ... even though the report SPECIFICALLY says what she did was unethical?
Did y'all know that there's a video of Veterans who oppose John McCain in which they voice a hatred of John McCain that is so deep ... so visceral .... you can just see the hatred for John McCain in their eyes and hear it in their voices?
Of course ... Mainstream Media won't open this type of stuff up.
They've been promoting John McCain ever since Chris Matthews talked about how much he loved John McCain.
Here' he is telling Johnny 'You're in my heart'.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200801290003
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sinophil491 year, 2 months ago
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beavith - You are wrong. This discussion board is about the falsehoods being disseminated in this campaign. If you are going to spread negative accusations or innuendos about one candidate then you have to at least acknowledge negative accusations against the opposing candidate.
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More importantly, if you are going to spread FALSE accusations about one, you MUST ACKNOWLEDGE the true accusations against the other.
I have always been negative about Bill Clinton and his adultery or Carter and his poor economic policies and his mishandling of the Iran hostage situation. I did not support Ted Kennedy when he was thinking about running for the presidency because of his affair with Mary Jo Kopechne. I have my eyes open about all the sins of the Democrat politicians.
I feel that I am fair and balanced.
You neocons, however, are totally blind or in denial about the sins of Bush, Rove, Cheney, et al. Now you are just as blind about the misdeeds of both McCain and Palin.
All the posts from the neocon side brush aside or deny any and all negative news about your candidates.
I have acknowledged mistakes or sins of the Democrats. I challenge you to acknowledge at least ONE sin or error from ANY of the Republican politicians. I dare you or any other neocon posters to do so.
If you or anyone should say there are no sins or errors to report or acknowledge, then you are all cowards and not worthy to participate intelligently in this all important election.-
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beavith11 year, 2 months ago
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HannibalBarca1 year, 2 months ago
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Then why the BS.
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If Obama is guilty because of events that happened when he was 7 ans he then later on associated with the alleged terrorist, then McC is guilty due to his association with the Keating 5
If McC is so on board with the American worker; why did he choose Airbus over Boeing ?
Fair and balanced?
Where?
Obama is victimized as he did vote against one troop funding bill; but because he did not like the timetable add on, yet McC also voted against Vet bills for the same reason, he did not like the add ons
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corl641 year, 2 months ago
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"Did y'all know that John McCain was an adulterer ... and ... even worse ... he abandoned his own children?"
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You have tried this one before, Johns ex fully supports him and has taken partial responsibility for their breakup.
"Did you know that Sarah Palin is going around claiming she's been COMPLETELY exonerated of any unethical questions regarding trooper-gate ... even though the report SPECIFICALLY says what she did was unethical?"
The report you're refering to here is not the official report that is being done by the state of Alaska. It does not matter what this report said, it's the other report that counts.
"Did y'all know that there's a video of Veterans who oppose John McCain in which they voice a hatred of John McCain that is so deep ... so visceral .... you can just see the hatred for John McCain in their eyes and hear it in their voices"
Do you realize that Obama also has protesters that hate him, as with almost any other politician out there. This is called Freedom of speech, the same freedom that gives you the right to come on here and spew your bullsh!t all the time.
"Of course ... Mainstream Media won't open this type of stuff up."
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cleare1 year, 2 months ago
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the "official" report was the one compiled by the bi-partisan alaskan congressional investigation. the "other" report was instigated by palin herself and is still pending while she hides the smoking gun and fabricates more lies.
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corl641 year, 2 months ago
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The official report is still pending. This report released Friday is from the legislature, it was initiated by Democrats. The personnel board is the proper body to investigate this type of matter. The legislature can investigate, but then must turn it's findings over to the personnel board for them to set the needed punishment, if applicable. All this legislative investigation did was point a finger to her and her husband while she is running for office. It's just more smear, that is why they moved the date up, instead of releasing their findings after the election, as it was originally planned before she was nominated for VeeP.
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BTW, the legislative investigation found that she was legally right in replacing the commisioner.
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
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Johns ex fully supports him and has taken partial responsibility for their breakup.
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Isn't that nice of her? To think, if she'd never become injured in that car accident on that icy road, she wouldn't have become so ugly that McCain had to divorce her.
If she'd only been more supportive of his constant philandering, instead of getting upset with him over it, she might not have been so irritating that McCain had to divorce her.
I would say that the only responsibility John McCain's ex has in their breakup is that she married him, for love, in the first place. If she'd just been more like Cindy, marrying him for power, she might have been better able to put up with his many abuses of their wedding vows.
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EHS1 year, 2 months ago
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Senator McCain has a loyalty to America that Obama has never known and Sara Palin has political experience. Obama is new to politics. In 2006, Obama's book, Audacity of Hope, he states, " I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
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fsev411 year, 2 months ago
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Are you the same Wolfie that has been saying "What is OBama hiding. We don't know anything about his college years." Now you're trying to suggest that you know who paid his tuition, what his grades were at Columbia, that he got into Harvard on affirmative action and one of your fellow cons is talking about his Pakistani roommate. You sound more and more like Andy Martin every time you post.
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fishifanb1 year, 2 months ago
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Did the tooth fairy embezzle quarters meant for the Shah of Iran?
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That makes about as much sense as your innuendo. Just because you don't know how he paid his tuition doesn't mean Mr. Khalidi had anything to do with it.
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FTA
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Both Sen. Obama and Mr. Ayers spoke at a testimonial dinner for Rashid Khalidi, a former member of the Palestine Liberation Organization and a founder of the rabidly anti-Israel Arab American Action Network, when Mr. Khalidi left the University of Chicago for Columbia University. Sen. Obama lectured part time at the University of Chicago law school from 1993 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004.
"Khalidi and Obama lived in nearby faculty residential zones and the two families dined together a number of times," a source on the University of Chicago faculty told Worldnet Daily. "The Obamas even babysat the Khalidi children."-
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Goppy1 year, 2 months ago
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I had never heard of Jack Kelly before ... so I looked him up.
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Jack Kelly is a FANATICAL supporter of all things George W. Bush.
Jack Kelly is the kind of reporter that ... if anyone criticizes GeeDub ... he goes into attack mode.
Nothing seemed to raise his hackles as much as the criticism of George W. Bush's handling of the Katrina fiasco.
Kelly put forth numerous falsehoods and dubious statements in defense of the Bush administration's response to Hurricane Katrina.
As if Americans didn't see the whole fiasco unfold on national TV .... I mean ..... don't we all remember ''Heckuva job Brownie!''
But Kelly's column, with all it's lies and obfuscation, was quickly embraced by the conservative media (LOL ... isn't that ALL media) --- On September 12, it was posted on the Drudge Report and read aloud by Rush Limbaugh on his nationally syndicated radio program." In its article, Media Matters dissected five separate claims made by Kelly.
Jack Kelly ... one more hater who can't seem to get it through his head that All Republicans aren't Right All the Time.
In fact --- since they sold their souls in a bargain with Newt Gingrich --- they are wrong MOST of the time.
As one who frequently voted Republican .... I wish this were not the case.
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Goppy1 year, 2 months ago
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Of course he does.
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Hey!
Here's a video of some Americans who oppose John McCain.
They all have a connection with him.
Some from Vietnam.
Some from working with him in Washington.
They are Veterans and Politicians.
It's a straight-forward youtube video that you can watch in just a few minutes that really provides some needed background on John McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzVxbUOn4EI
I urge all of you to watch because ... you know ... Mainstream Media's love affair with John McCain has meant that they have protected America from any REAL information about who he is.
He has had a life ... his character wasn't invented when he was nominated as the Republican Presidential Candidate.
Believe me ... you should watch this video ... don't simply believe Mainstream Media about McCain ...
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sinophil491 year, 2 months ago
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Goppy - I did watch the clip and it was both eye-opening and saddening.
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But don't waste your breath on this cabal of narrow-minded, blinded crowd of radical neoconservatives. Even if they watch it, they will either not acknowledge they did or will simply accuse all those veterans of being wrong, crazy, or having some private grudge against McCain. Just watch how true my prophecy will be.
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Patience1 year, 2 months ago
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Ok so now watch some Vets that actually served with McCain.
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sinophil491 year, 2 months ago
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Patience - OK. I tried to connect on the link but my computer wouldn't do it.
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Doesn't matter. I fully acknowledge that McCain used to be a headstrong maverick and is basically a decent man. In ALL my posts I have never attacked his person or his character. I have repeatedly attacked his ideas, his decisions, and his capitulation to the ultra-right wing of the Republican party in order to secure his nomination.
Remember, McCain was maverick enough that John Kerry considered him for a running mate.
His faults now are in his erratic behavior and his errant decisions - like choosing Palin.
Another example - his suggestion during debate #2 that he wanted the bailout money to buy up the individual defaulted mortgages from the individual homeowners. That is a stupid suggestion. If you buy the over-valued mortgages directly, the government (ie. we taxpayers) now are stuck with a permanent loss. Also the paperwork and headaches in handling thousands to millions of individual mortgages would be very time-consuming and expensive.
Look at what Paulson finally decided to do. He is now going to use the money to buy up ownership positions in some of the more distressed banks by buying shares. This is a much smarter move in that we let the individual banks and mortgages handle the individual mortgages in their own portfolios, which they are in the best position to deal with. Yet we, the taxpayers can participate in the upside when the companies recover without any of the headaches.
Paulson's more intelligent approach (copied from the British bailout) is cool-headed and he doesn't play to the crowd like McCain has been doing.
Again, I am attacking McCain's ideas, decisions and his behavior, not his person or character.
Contrast that to this entire discussion board where unfounded accusations and innuendos about Obama and his connections with Kelly, Ayers, Khalidi. All of which have the underlying, unspoken accusation that Obama must be a terrorist. This is also related to the "swift-boat" accusations by Anthony Martin that Obama is a Muslim, he has a funny name, and he was schooled in a wahabbi school in Indonesia. Other than Obama's unusual name, everything else is false.
Martin and all you cons are just playing on your own paranoia and racism. There is no basis at all for any of these fears and misconceptions. But it has been replayed so often, these rumors and lies have taken on a life of its own.
That is the insidious evil of "swift-boating." The accusations do not have to be true. They just have to sound plausible to enough numbers of already doubtful, gullible racists to take on the aura of truth. If enough people are doubting, the hope is that enough votes will be siphoned off from Obama to deny him the electoral votes.
This entire discussion about Obama is baseless, sleazy, disgusting, and intelectually dishonest. All of you rumor-mongers and occult racists should ashamed of yourselves-
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nostalgia1 year, 2 months ago
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"His faults now are in his erratic behavior and his errant decisions"
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Then how do you characterize this?
Obama's new economic plan includes a 90-day moratorium on foreclosures for many homeowners.
In February, after Hillary Clinton proposed a similar foreclosure moratorium, the Los Angeles Times reported that Obama condemned her plan:
In San Antonio on Tuesday, Obama said that Clinton’s foreclosure freeze was potentially “disastrous,” rewarding “people who made this problem worse” by benefiting banks that profit from high mortgage rates.
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RedstateLib1 year, 2 months ago
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Yeah I thought about that as well when I heard Obama promote his new Idea. He stole the plan from Hillary that he attacked her for proposing. To bad he can't steal her voting record as well so he could pretend to keep his word on telecom immunity and he could take back that votes on Terry Shavio and his vote to censure Move on . org. Oh well he talks a good game but when it comes down to actually taking a stand when it counts, not so much.
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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But quite a few things have changed since February, nostalgia. ;-P Up until McCain was nominated cons despised him. Remember. The economy was in bad shape then but it wasn't imploding as it is now. Obama is flexible thinker. McCain is an unstable opportunist. ;-(
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RedRiverJ1 year, 2 months ago
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FTA-In "Dreams From My Father," Mr. Obama writes fondly of "Frank," a mentor while he was growing up in Hawaii. "Frank" was Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Communist Party USA, and who was on the FBI's list of subversives.
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I am just guessing but I'd vote he is a closet radical?
The communist party usa has a nifty spin on things, while they do NOT endorse a candidate they sure give favorable press to one of them.
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Goppy1 year, 2 months ago
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You remind me of all the Fake Christian's who ally themselves with the Modern Republican Party.
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They read the Bible ... and they pick out every thing that can be twisted around to mean that:
- Jesus Supports Warfare.
- Jesus Supports Lying to Promote War.
- Jesus hates Catholics
- Jesus believes in Separate and Unequal.
- Jesus believes in Politicizing our Judiciary.
- Jesus Hates Homosexuals
- Jesus Hates Helping Children get Health Insurance
- Jesus Supports protections for Medical Insurance Companies that cheat their clients.
- Jesus Supports Polluters and despoiling the Environment.
- Jesus Supports Promoting Lies about political candidates.
So .... it doesn't surprise me any longer what America Haters say any longer about Barack Obama.
You can keep posting Hatred until the cows come home.
Hate only goes so far.
Hate Mongering worked with George W. Bush because - at the time - nobody could believe such a nice boy could be behind the Swift Boaters.
But ... America has learned.
America is Sick and Tired of people dragging the Democratic Process through the mud ... sick and tired of embittered extremists dragging our Nation through the mud.
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
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What are the "qualifications" required?
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He is over 35, and he is a natural-born American citizen. He meets all REQUIRED qualifications for the job.
For his additional qualifications, he has experience in state and federal senate. He has excellent education credentials. He is a good speaker, and motivates regular Americans. He is objective. He is calm in a tough situation.
Is McCain AS qualified? I really don't think so.
He has more experience as a federal senator - but his track record there doesn't make him more likeable.
He is also a Veteran, and was a POW. The former speaks to his patriotism and is applicable, the latter does and is not.
His educational record is poor (to be generous), as is his personal history. When the going got tough, McCain skedaddled. The first (and to many the most important) pledge McCain had to keep was to his wife, and he shattered it. Why would we expect him to treat his oath of office any differently?
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dandt16121 year, 2 months ago
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The media is ALL OVER Palin who is running for the VP spot but, when it comes to Obama who is running for the President spot the media might casually or hardly even mention his name along with his crooked friends and associates and the crooked things they have done that were actually against the law.
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No one really knows who Obama is because he wants it like that so we don't find out just how bad and crooked he is.-
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Goppy1 year, 2 months ago
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Actually ... as more and more Americans see Barack Obama ... and juxtapose him with John McCain ... Obama's poll numbers continue to rise.
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Look: Obama talks about the issues that matter to the Middle Classes.
Johnny Shapeshifter talks about his opponent being a terrorist and whipping up violence and rage among his supporters.
Try and put yourselves in the shoes of an Independent Voter.
Who do you think looks like a more Rational choice for President ... a young man with energy to tackle the nation's immense challenges in her path right now ... along with a Vice President who has been a Presidential candidate himself?
OR ..................................
A 'Doddering Old Fool' ... (to use the favorite description of Johnny by redtomato ... when she posted under the nom de plume - AlphaGnosis) ... a doddering old fool ... who used to stand for something ... but threw his credibility under the bus in a desperate, ego driven attempt to become President before he dies?
A man who regularly dredges up every charge made by extremist kooks like Andy Martin and John Corsi ... both of whom are certifiable.
A man who chooses a small town politician exclusively to acquire the 'so called' Christian Conservative vote - because - as we all know ... John McCain has no real interest in religion and .... (I must say I agree with him on this) .... has charged that most Christian Conservatives are Agents of Division ... of course - that was in 2000... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... recognizing in 2008 that he NEEDS the Christian Conservative vote ... he brings on Sarah Palin because she's a bona fide 'George W. Bush' Christian.
I think as Americans have grown to know these two ... that familiarity has caused McCain's poll numbers to drop ... and Barack Obama's to rise.
The REAL problem with Mainstream Media is .... their REFUSAL to provide any background on John McCain.
If America was shown OBJECTIVELY ... the background of John McCain .... Americans would be even more appalled than they are currently.
But of course ... Mainstream Media is in the pocket of the Right ... so that's not likely to happen.
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cleare1 year, 2 months ago
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22 - if MM means mainstream media, then you are wrong, wrong and wrong again. study after study after study (all objective) has proven that while individual "talent" on-camera may have liberal (or conservative) bias, the editorial staff under the control of huge entertainment corporations and the corporate management itself are solidly CONSERVATIVE.
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buckncindykill1 year, 2 months ago
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On Friday, McCain's campaign released a memo saying that Obama's affiliations with ACORN "raise serious questions about his judgment and ability to lead this nation." We know, we know ... this is a racist statement because Republicans are referring to Obama's days as community organizer. The McCain campaign has also posted a video which points to the connections between ACORN and the current mortgage crisis – the fact that ACORN, with the blessing of our own government, bullied banks into giving loans to people who they know could not pay for them. Question ... where was all of this information in the last debate? Why has John McCain waited until now to make these connections?
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Naturally, the Obama campaign responds with my favorite line ... these attacks from the McCain campaign attempt to "'turn the page from the issues that matter to American families." So there you go. The people don't want to talk about this, they want to talk about the economy! Hey, Barack, how about explaining the fact that an organization you worked for and have hired to get out the vote for your campaign is partly responsible for the current economy, thanks to the mortgage meltdown. Here's a picture of Our Savior at an ACORN meeting!
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7203
Look at the picture and remember that some Obama mouthpieces say that he wasn't involved with ACORN. Yeah ... we're buying that.
Oh and the other response from Democrats ... the only reason the McCain campaign is hitting on ACORN is because McCain and Republicans are "hostile to the group's political agenda." Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. says, "They're scared of too many poor people preparing to vote this year." So now the McCain campaign is engaged in class warfare and the only reason they are attacking ACORN is because they don't want poor people to vote. That is the logic of a Democrat.-
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Johnarack11 year, 2 months ago
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Wrong-Barack Obama is a Patriot who will fix the economic woes facing America. He has been on the campaign trail with leadership on the issues and a step ahead of his rivals. Tax Breaks for Middle America, Business credits, Foreclosues 3 Month Holiday, 401k IRA 10k without penalties. These are solutions to help us all
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Klarissa1 year, 2 months ago
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And he fill magically find money for these projects??
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Obama will invest $1 billion over five years in transitional jobs and career pathway programs that implement proven methods of helping low-income Americans succeed in the workforce.
Obama will double the federal Jobs Access and Reverse Commute program to ensure that additional federal public transportation dollars flow to the highest-need communities and that urban planning initiatives take this aspect of transportation policy into account.
Obama will create 20 Promise Neighborhoods in areas that have high levels of poverty and crime and low levels of student academic achievement in cities across the nation.
The Promise Neighborhoods will be modeled after the Harlem Children's Zone, which provides a full network of services, including early childhood education, youth violence prevention efforts and after-school activities, to an entire neighborhood from birth to college.
Obama proposes to achieve almost universal service for the nation’s 17 million college students by offering a refundable annual tax credit of $4,000 toward college tuition. This program should cost about $65-100 billion a year, perhaps more if it substantially increases the number of students attending college.
In return for the credit, college students will be required to perform 100 hours of community service every year for four years. By offering college students a hefty $40 an hour, Mr. Obama will ensure that nearly every college student will participate in his program, without actually making their service mandatory.
Tax credits....
-$500 tax credit for 150 million workers.....$75 Billion
-Tax credit for the first $4000 of tuition for all college students.....(appox 16 million students)....$64 Billion
-Expand EITC 300% for low income workers.
-Provide $500 government matching funds for first $1000 in retirement savings
-Expand Child Care credit from 35% to 50% of costs
Increase Minimum Wage to a Living Wage indexed to inflation.
-Require 7 days of paid sick leave
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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Obama will magically find money from the same place that Bush found money for war time tax cuts for the extremely wealthy and to pay our military huge bonuses for multiple tours so cons like you and your family and friends could sit at home on your @sses and bitch about Obama. There. That was easy.
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nostalgia1 year, 2 months ago
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Is penalty-free hardship withdrawals from IRAs and 401(k) plans a good idea????
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People would be taking money out their retirement savings and assets at a time when they're likely to be at a very low value
Not a smart move - ask any financial planner
Obama condemned the 3 month moratorium on foreclosures when Hillary propsed it during the primaries. Now it's a good idea because he "said so"?
Business credits" with one hand and raise their taxes on the other hand?
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Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago
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Obama today said that people should get out of debt and save more. Then he comes up with a plan where people can take up to $10K from their 401K's early without a penalty. That sounds more like spending than saving. He forgot to tell them that the money from the 401 will be taxed. Ten thousand dollars can land you in a higher tax bracket,too. Beware!
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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"That sounds more like spending than saving. He forgot to tell them that the money from the 401 will be taxed."
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But if, like I did, they borrow the penalty free money from their retirement now to pay off things like high interest rate credit card debt, it seems to me they're working towards saving. And no one thinks anything will be tax free. Get serious.
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LaquintaDoc1 year, 2 months ago
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Americans have been blinded by the liberal media's deliberate avoidance of Obama's previous associations. My parent's always taught me "You are who you associate with" A life long lesson that I continue to teach my children... We have sold ourselves down the river of socialism by avoiding and overlooking this man's past. Our freedoms and way of life will no longer matter. Mark my words, if Obama wins, this country is doomed. Our civil liberties will Obiliterated, we will be subject to the left wing liberals who what to disarm us, tie our hands and make us subservient to their control.
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I pray that there will be an awakening in the weeks to come.
While none is perfect, we can not ignore the writings of Obama. Read his book! read of his travels! his associations! Then tell me "Oh, he's a true blue American" Bull Crap. No man is perfect, all have sinned, but... give me a break. WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. Oh by the way.. talk to a Canadian about their lovely healthcare system.. try waiting 6 months for a CT scan because you have a brain tumor... think about that when Obama Osama H. Barak signs in his healthcare reforms.
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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But you cons love to fall back and accuse all of your problems on the liberal media. Sarah Palin refuses to answer questions from reporters and I want this freaking harlot to stop and answer some questions. You cons aren't getting off with a free ride while p*ssing and moaning about Obama. When is that twit beauty pageant runner up from Alaska who just got added to the ticket a few weeks ago going to start talking and telling us all about her background? Exactly, cons. Shaddap, cause you're lying every time you open your big con yaps and pretend to be genuinely interested in learning about Obama. You people are lying through your crooked con teeth. Get serious. No on trusts or believes cons so stop trying to pretend you have legitimate reasons for sniffing around behind Obama. NO ONE BELIEVES CONS. ;-(
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leftylemn1 year, 2 months ago
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Well on the bright side. I didn't plan for my retirement and don't feel like getting a job. With Obama as president, I will be getting all I need from the goodies he is promising. ENTITLEMENT CITY HERE I COME. Thanks in advance to all you Obama supporters. I already get a food card (no embarrassing food stamps). I also get cash monthly. Wow, now i will even get free medical and Obama will be paying my mortgage. Thanks, ka-ching..ka-ching. I can't wait to see what else I will get with an Obama presidency. I am sure he won't raise your taxes...After all he promised...He does keep his promises,,right???
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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Have no fear, Chimp gave tax cuts to filthy cons left and right during war time and he gave government jobs to nitwits from Schools like Bob Jones University and Pat Robertson's Law School for privileged, low IQ'd religious white zealots as well as billions in welfare to oil companies and his military contractor buddies, so you're in good company filthylemn. ;-P
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myqwerty1 year, 2 months ago
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It makes no difference whether Obama and Odinga are related. What does make a difference is that Obama campaigned for Odinga, while insulting the government of Kenya. He was on a fact finding mission from the United States paid for with our tax money. Talk about abuse of power. There are videos, real videos of Obama in Kenya. After Odinga lost, he encouraged people to protest in not such a friendly way. A senator from the United States campaigning for Odinga on our hard earned dollar.
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
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Wolfie, I had a French teacher a long time ago who, when the class had finally driven her to distraction through repeated...and repeated...and repeated NONSENSE would scream,
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"CA SOUFFIT!!!!"
...which means, for those whose French is rusty,
"ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Get my drift?
We understand that you and others think Obama is:
A Muslim
A terrorist
A pinko-socialist-commie-liberal
Satan
All of the above, even as you keep raising the faux-question, "Who IS Obama, really?"
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lovemylibs1 year, 2 months ago
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Blasphemy! I don't think Obama is a Muslim. I don't think Obama is a terrorist. I don't think Obama is pinko-socialist-commie-liberal. I don't think Obama is satan.
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I would like to know, however, "Who is Obama, really?"
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krystaleahs1 year, 2 months ago
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I agree with you Lovemylibs!
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What scares me the most about Obama is that he thinks he can increase the size of goverment with so many programs that are supposedly going to fix our economy and problems. What is making our debt grow and grow is the Entitlement spending not the discresionary spending. This need for americans to think they are entitled to everything from our government needs to stop. -
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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We don't believe you because you elected nominated McCain knowing full well who he is and you've only known Palin a month and you couldn't care less as to what you don't know about her. You are not credible in the least. Be logical. If you want to know about Obama we need you to at least pretend to be interested in ALL of your political candidates' backgrounds. But you're only interested in the black dude's background. And, yes, I'm calling you cons racists because that's exactly what you are. There is no question in my mind you people are racist to the core. ;-(
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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hehe...My grade school French teacher would say
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"Silence!" (or "see-lawnnns") if we were just being a little annoying. But when she'd say "T'est toi!" her eyes would look temporarily like a rattlesnake's and you knew she meant "STFU this instant, rugrats!"
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myqwerty1 year, 2 months ago
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Enough? A person who is going to be President of the United States deserves to be investigated. Oh yea he was vetted, apparently not good enough. The American people have the right to investigate, ask questions and have their questions answered. Oh yea, he lives in my neighborhood is not an answer. We are not looking for someone to be poster boy for Acorn, we are looking to fill the highest position in our country.
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myqwerty1 year, 2 months ago
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It has nothing to do with the boogey man. People investigate baby sitters for their kids. There are background checks on hospital workers and bus drivers. They are done to protect people. There is nothing wrong with investigating someone who is going to lead our country. Investigations are being done, by the people, on both sides. The media has an obligation to not be biased. That is their job. Things that are wrong are wrong whether you are a republican or a democrat. In the end we are all just Americans, no hyphens. If it was wrong for Palin to try to have her ex brother-in-law fired, then why is it right for Obama to travel to Kenya, on your hard earned money, to campaign for a radical and try to influence another country, which by the way is one of our allies. Both are wrong.
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
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My point, myquerty, is that Wolfie (and others who share his...opinion) keep posting stories that make the same "points" about Obama--that spill and spread the same rumors, again and again and again and again and again and again...
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...and again.
Those who believe them do and will. Those who don't, don't and won't. Few on either side are suddenly going to "see the light" and change their opinion about whom to vote for. So these posts are a way of indulging one's hate, fear and prejudice in public and getting corroboration of same. They're masturbatory. (And believe me, I have nothing against masturbation, appropriately performed.)
So, for those of us who contribute to Propeller daily, and have already read tons of Woolfie's stuff:
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myqwerty1 year, 2 months ago
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Spreading the wealth. Right out of Obama's mouth. Hope he doesn't need a plumber anytime soon.
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Hansford1 year, 2 months ago
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I don't know how to post this comment, but will try. There is no "closet radical" about Obama; he is openly a far, far left Socialist who has associated with many radical and far from admirable people in the past. After so many of their predecessors suffered died horrible deaths in World War II, it is difficult for me to understand how so many decent Jewish people are will to take a chance on the lives and safety of their fellow Jews in Israel, by voting for such a questionable and dubious person as Obama. He may, and likely will, undermine America's support of Israel, if elected.
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twentytwo1 year, 2 months ago
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Thank you Hansford! He is a Socialist will Marxist tendencies. Why is it that (some) people are so mesmorized (Obamized) by this guy? I can see right through him.....
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I wish this beutiful country of ours the best........IF he is elected........
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arem1 year, 2 months ago
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Please people, stop thinking that it all revolves around Obama or McCain and focus on what is important. Everything Americans treasure has been brought about with a Democratic administration. Women' voting rights, 40 hour weekday, social security, medicare are only a few of the perks that we all are enjoying, were democratic initiatives. If you don't believe me, look it up. The past administration has sunk us so low in debt we may never swim to the top again. Our prestige and pride has been eroded by the present aministration. We need to get them out and we do not need more of the same. Think party not individuals.
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Goppy1 year, 2 months ago
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Maybe noone told you ... the present day Republican party was reinvented by ex-democrats such as Scoop Jackson and Jeanne Kirkpatrick.
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These liberals took the Republican party into a whole different direction.
In fact, their ideals are anti-American in nature. Didn't you know that part of the Neo-Con initiation is draping the American Flag on a World Globe, spitting on it, then setting the whole display on FIRE?
Does that sound like a party with American Values to you?
You should also know that one of the things that this new party stands for is spying on their own citizens.
That's why Bush promoted the Patriot Act so strongly ... he's all part of the Neo-Conservative Revolution.
In fact, you are most probably being watched right now.
And for sure, your phone is being tapped.
If I were you, I would vote for Barack Obama ... right now ... he's the only candidate that will protect your privacy.
And believe me, Paul Steady ... you have plenty to keep private. ... know what I mean?
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cleare1 year, 2 months ago
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oh puhleeze...can't you find something more important to get your panties in a wad over than whether or not people salute the flag...or wear a flag pin???
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it is a superficial gesture. i'm more interested in folks who actively work to improve our democratic institutions and processes. -
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
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Alas, arem, the party IS the individual and vice versa. Today's McCain is an artifact of the last eight years of Bush domestic terrorism.
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Klarissa1 year, 2 months ago
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On February 14, 2008, Cliff Kincaid, at Accuracy in Media, wrote:
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" Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat.
Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist.
Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored. [snip]
DSA describes itself as the largest socialist organization in the United States and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International.
The Socialist International (SI) has what is called “consultative status” with the United Nations. In other words, it works hand-in-glove with the world body."
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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Or you could look at the headlines, take note of all the places where Obama continues to extend his lead and then you can be reasonably sure the GOP paid prostitutes are here in force trying to sling sleaze to create noise in the blogosphere. Apparently they don't realize that they are helping McCain look worse and worse by the day. ;-(
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Om1 year, 2 months ago
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The tone of this election is out of control. So many Americans have their egos so wrapped up in these candidates that we have forgotten what it's all about: economic turn-around, energy independence, national security, regaining American leadership in the world, renewable fuels, protecting our planet, being a good neighbor, affordable health care, excellence in education, protecting the Constitution. Let's quit demonizing each other and work together for a better future. We only get one shot in these bodies to get it right.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 2 months ago
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Republican values: greed, ignorance, racism, religious zealotry, mob mentality, witch burning, closet homosexuality, gay bashing while smoking crack while being sodomized, end of the world worshipping rapture, irrationality, hatemongering, tribalism, ignorance, ignorance, ignorance, greed.
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Klarissa1 year, 2 months ago
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http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/group/Mar...
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Marxists/Socialists/Communists for Obama
This group is for self-proclaimed Marxists/Communists/Socialists for the election of Barack Obama to the Presidency.
By no means is he a true Marxist, but under Karl Marx's writings we are to support the party with the best interests of the mobilization of the proletariat. Though the Democratic Socialists of America or the Communist Patty of America may have more Socialististic values, it is pointless to vote for these candidates due to the fact that there is virutally no chance they will be elected on a National level.
The members of this group are not Leninists, Stalinists, etc. and do not support or condone the actions of North Korea, China, Cuba or any other self-procalimed "Marxist States." They do not in anyway represent the Marxist philosophy nor do they represent Socialism/ Communsim. We support Barack Obama because he knows what is best for the people!
Content on blogs in My.BarackObama represents the opinions of community members and in no way should be interpreted as endorsed or approved by the campaign.
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
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mmrhe1 year, 2 months ago
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Who is the REAL Wolfie2007? Is he a mere dimwit easily lead astray by NeoCon lies and propoganda?
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Or is he the Puppetmaster? Controlling events through sly posts on Propeller?
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
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Ditto, not2.
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The thing is, by continually reiterating the question, "who is Obama," the cons endlessly draw and redraw a line in the sand that handily distinguishes "us" from "them," or in this case HIM.
This allows them to define O. as "not us," which is to say, as the foreigner, the Other.
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ctwriter1 year, 2 months ago
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This article by Jack Kelly who poses as a journalist for a Pittsburgh paper amamzes me. He presents false allegations from extreme conservative websites as "fact" without bothering to verify. Then all you folks from the right and left get in a big huff. Check it out: Obama did not write a blurb for Ayers book (Amazon.com). Khalidi is not and never has been a member of the PLO. He is a respected, but controversial Middle Eastern scholar who was on the faculty of the University where Obama taught. He supports a Palestinian state, but has often criticized the PLO (wikipedia.com) There is no evidence that Obama launched his career in Ayer's living room (factcheck.org). A prominent Jewish leader says he threw the first fundraising party for Obama. In fact the Jewish community in Chicago has known and supported Obama from the beginning (evidently his public relationships with Muslims and an alleged ex-terrorist did not concern them) (Jewish Americans for Obama) Look at Kelly's previous columns. He's a small-minded mouthpiece for the radical right. Maybe his employers should send him back to journalism school so he can learn the basics.
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LAWriter1 year, 2 months ago
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What about John McCain's fishy associations to RIGHT WING CRIMINAL G. Gordon Liddy?
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What about John MCCain's associations to jew hater preacher John Hagee, who said Hitler was part of God's will?
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
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Osbama, above: "Osbama is a blood brother of William Ayers, the domestic Osama bin Laden...."
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So YOU, Osbama, are the brother of Osama...or you think that Obama is, whom you name after yourself. Or have you named yourself after Osbama--I mean, Obama?
This is all very confusing. Perhaps you can explain.
Sometime in the way distant future.
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Om1 year, 2 months ago
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We are all within six degrees of one another. We have in our hearts that which we recognize in another person. We could all be hung for the associations we have encountered, either knowingly or unknowingly. Judge not guilt by association. I don't care if they have rubbed elbows with the devil herself. What is his/her vision for America? By their works will you know them.
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junevgreene1 year, 2 months ago
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It is very sad when a political candidate has to rely on Mickey Mouse and Cinderella to cast a vote and all the minority's who register 3 and 4 times and believe they will never be found out, because members of acorn say so. I have been a Democrat All my life and will be voting Republican this election not because of race but because the man has a painted past that know one really knows about. Who are the two Pakistans that are in charge of his internet contributions and where is all this 468 million dollars coming from people have no money for groceries and yet they can finance his campaign to that degree ???????? He can afford to spend millions on a tv slot on all 3 major channels for a half hour so he can prove he's the man. No other candidate had to go that extreme to get elected. Why does he have his wifes ex boss as one of his chief advisers and she was born in Iran most of the people he is involved with are contriversal to say the least where did he get the money for such a grand education when his grades where below margin???? There is so much that we don't know and that makes for a scared country and people are so desperate for a change that they might get more than they bargained for.
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teeny8161 year, 2 months ago
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Every reputable news source - the Associated Press, CNN, the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Chicago Sun-Times, the Detroit Free-Press, FactCheck.org, etc. - says that this is a lie.
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Obama has responded to questions about Ayers several times. Obama has clearly expressed his views that Ayers' acts as part of the anti-Vietnam war group were "detestable" and "despicable." He doesn't support Ayers' acts, and he is not friends with Ayers.
The Weathermen set off several bombs in the 60s and 70s, but no one was injured due to warnings the Weathermen set out in advance. Calling Ayers a terrorist is justified, but it is also calculated to conjure up images of Bin Laden and others who actually want to kill Americans and who belong in a completely different category of "terrorist."
In 1995, Obama served on a charitable board, which was supported by a Republican governor. Among the other board members were Ayers and a contributor to the McCain campaign. Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's campaign for the Illinois State Senate in 2001. I don't think this gives Ayers any pull with Obama's campaign, nor does it make them friends.
But personally, I feel like this is all beside the point. People who agree with McCain's stance on the issues should vote for him because they agree with him, and not because Obama was a member of the same charitable board as Bill Ayers. I happen to agree with Obama's positions, and I am voting for him, not because of any political ad, campaign slogan, or talking point, but because I agree with the direction he wants to take our country.-
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Om1 year, 2 months ago
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Good point. I doubt that any votes are changed by the propaganda spread on these pages and/or on the wires and wireless. It is a colossal waste of money and energy. Controversy, whether true or not, sells. I think the American people are smart as an electorate. We generally get what we deserve. I think we will vote correctly this time too. We all need to make sure it is fair, transparent, and monitored independently.
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