The Man Behind the Whispers About Obama »

Posted By Beau7890 1 year ago in News

Until this month, the man who is widely credited with starting the cyberwhisper campaign that still dogs Mr. Obama was a secondary character in news reports, with deep explorations of his background largely confined to liberal blogs.

But an appearance in a documentary-style program on the Fox News Channel watched by three million people last week thrust the man, Andy Martin, and his past into the foreground. The program allowed Mr. Martin to assert falsely and without challenge that Mr. Obama had once trained to overthrow the government.

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    Beau78901 year ago

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    And here we have it.

    The man behind many the unfounded smears of Obama suffers from delusions of grandeur and paranoia.

    And Fox News gave him an unrestricted forum on its network.

    Is anyone surprised?

    From the article:

    "An examination of legal documents and election filings, along with interviews with his acquaintances, revealed Mr. Martin, 62, to be a man with a history of scintillating if not always factual claims. He has left a trail of animosity -- some of it provoked by anti-Jewish comments -- among political leaders, lawyers and judges in three states over more than 30 years.

    "He is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of 'moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.' "

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    hyperbola1 year ago

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    I think we miss the point by "blaming" this man, who is only a tool. The real crooks are the oligarchs who finance and support him. They are the ones we should be identifying and holding up to ridicule. We haven't much time left.

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    As the public begins to grasp the depth of the betrayal and abuse by our ruling class, as the Democratic and Republican parties are exposed as craven tools of our corporate state, as savings accounts, college funds and retirement plans become worthless, as unemployment skyrockets and as home values go up in smoke, we must prepare for the political resurgence of a reinvigorated radical Christian right. The engine of this mass movement—as is true for all radical movements—is personal and economic despair. And despair, in an age of increasing shortages, poverty and hopelessness, will be one of our few surplus commodities.

    Karl Polanyi in his book “The Great Transformation,” written in 1944, laid out the devastating consequences—the depressions, wars and totalitarianism—that grow out of a so-called self-regulated free market. He grasped that “fascism, like socialism, was rooted in a market society that refused to function.” He warned that a financial system always devolved, without heavy government control, into a Mafia capitalism—and a Mafia political system—which is a good description of the American government under George W. Bush. Polanyi wrote that a self-regulating market, the kind bequeathed to us since Ronald Reagan, turned human beings and the natural environment into commodities, a situation that ensures the destruction of both society and the natural environment. He decried the free market’s belief that nature and human beings are objects whose worth is determined by the market. He reminded us that a society that no longer recognizes that nature and human life have a sacred dimension, an intrinsic worth beyond monetary value, ultimately commits collective suicide. Such societies cannibalize themselves until they die. Speculative excesses and growing inequality, he wrote, always destroy the foundation for a continued prosperity. ....

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    not2needy1 year ago

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    Who knew Fox News would support someone who was dilusional and paranoid?? Everyone with any sense!

    Great find Beau! Thanks.

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      engineer1 year ago

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      Great find Beau

      Faux News and this guy are some of the reasons we have problems in the world today!!

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        jordan111 year ago

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        "He is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of “moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.”>>>>

        I have to laugh at this. I just know that these crazies sit around drinking and laughing at the stupidity of the right wing conservative base. They know they'll run with anything derogatory. It's like fishing for them, throwing out the lure to catch a dummy. And those very dummy's adore the crazies who make fools of them.

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          Mdiar1 year ago

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          LOL, yes, I came across this story earlier. Very interesting. I have been wondering who started the whole "Obama is a Muslim" crusade.

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          VocalOp1 year ago

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          So this man is like Rush, Hannity and Bill? Just say it aint so.

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            Dobes_Rule1 year ago

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            Excellent article - thanks for the heads up...but in all honesty, I am soooo not surprised! Good find Beau.

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              sinophil491 year ago

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              Up to the point I am typing this post, I counted 12 posts already. Not a single one from any of the Republican or neoconservative, regular participants. VEERRRYY INNTTERRRESSTING! I am curious if any of them will acknowledge this article as correct or try to deny or obfuscate the issue.

              I do note that several of the previous posts each have a single neg. Looks like we have a busy little negative termite trying to gnaw away at some of the posts, without writing a post him(her)self.

              What a coward!

              Oh, and what a slimy, despicable character this Anthony (or Andy) Martin is. Will this expose stop the perpetuation and dissemination of this lie? Will any of the Republican and neoconservative members of these discussions ever acknowledge they were wrong in falsely accusing Obama of being a Muslim or a terrorist? Will any of them apologize?

              OF COURSE NOT. This type of false and obviously outlandish claim always seems to resonate and embeds itself in the radical right mentality. It will live forever in the mythology of the paranoid Republican mind.

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              Bluedragon9121 year ago

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              I've also noticed no conservatives have commented. But it's not very interesting. Why? Because this story is toxic sludge to them and their ideologies. No matter the truth of this story, it will be spun, or at least attempted to be spun. Nope, not today cons.

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                InAStrangeLand1 year ago

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                It really doesn't matter to any one any more who wins your election. All we care about is that you start fixing the damage done by Dubya and associates over the past sixteen years-- yes, it's been that long!-- and spare us from having to listen to your self-indulgent and whiny trash. Wake up and smell the coffee, chaps. I do happen to like America, and most of you Americans. But the rhetorical rubbish I see on this blog is really, really getting to me. Yes, REALLY.

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                ISITJUSTME1 year ago

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                Fix News commentators are a funny bunch. They find some of the nuttiest people to promote their agenda. This was not fact based, just one man's opinion.

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                coymoy1 year ago

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                So Basically ... this guy said Obama was a Muslim, made some antisemitic remark and hates John McCain. Barack Obama himself said he was a muslim and Stephanopolis corrected him. Who cares!

                Obama's mother was a communist. Obama's mentor was a Marxist. Obama's pastor hates America. Obama's friends with a socialist terrorist. I'll pass on that too.

                Obama is INEXPERIENCED. Obama is all over the place with his campaign promises, and some on them are just ridiculous (businesses don't pay capital gains tax). Again, Obama is too inexperienced!

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                Tcaros1 year ago

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                Fox News- what do you expect from that social engineering project.

                This guy is not only looney, but as dangerous to others as Hitler or Joseph Goebbels.

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                Progressive1 year ago

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                Bravo, Beau.

                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/robert-gi...

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                  fsev411 year ago

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                  One thing in this article that caught my eye was that a judge has banned Martin from filing any more lawsuits (say "frivolous")without the judge's permission. This immediately brought to mind the nutcase in Pennsylvania that filed the lawsuit over OBama's citizenship. He also is known for filing frivolous lawsuits. Bird's of a feather---.

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                    jadeona11 year ago

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                    fair and balanced lets see one network in the tank for mccain 12 for obama gee thats fair and balanced..

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                    tchef1 year ago

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                    Good article. I can't understand why after where these people have helped to lead this nation why anyone listens to them anymore. It's time to wake up America and turn this garbage off!

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                      drpolyphemus1 year ago

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                      It doesn't surprise me that this anti-semite, the KKK and other Obama detractors are in bed together.

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                        Jayson1 year ago

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                        "Just last Friday, a woman told Senator John McCain at a town-hall-style meeting, “I have read about him,” and “he’s an Arab.” Mr. McCain corrected her."

                        When I heard about that woman's comment, I had to laugh. Ugh! Where do these people come from and why was this woman chosen to speak to the press? She and the crazy Obama whisperer should get together!

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                          myqwerty1 year ago

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                          Spreading the wealth. Right out of Obama's mouth. Hope he doesn't need a plumber anytime soon.

                          http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x72626_wealth_new...

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                          RedstateLib1 year ago

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                          Funny thing is I posted about this guy during the primaries when all the Obots were screaming it was Hillary who was starting these rumors. At that time the info on Martin was either ignored by them or shouted down. Funny how some of my former allies find truth useful only when it suits their agenda. Reminds of those people we used to laugh at, Bushbots. LOL how ironic it is to look at some of those people and know that they have become just what they claim they hated.

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                          getreal11 year ago

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                          If there is anything about elections is that people will say anything to help the one of their choice. Obama has allowed the race card, his middle name and associations, to be used as an enhancement through the primaries and he will do the same in this one. People are upset that he has had these ties to foreign terrorist. Well they should be. Paranoia doesn't often come without a reason. Maybe that lady was saying that to make a bad day for McCain and an enhancement for Obama.

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                          tony20sux1 year ago

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                          Has anyone else heard that McCain is a Warlock, and that he met Cindy when he rescued her from becoming a virgin sacrifice at a witchcraft ceremony?? Google: McCain Witchcraft

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