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Posted By FSU92grad 1 year, 1 month ago in Political NewsJohnson and another prolific registrant were subpoenaed to
testify at a meeting Monday as the Elections Board continued
its look at possible fraud by ACORN, a national organization
that tries to get low- and moderate-income people to
register. ACORN's methods have drawn interest in a
number of states this presidential election year.
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jordan111 year, 1 month ago
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So? Those cards are useless. Poll workers aren't going to let a teenager vote once, let alone 73 times. But an employee of ACORN got a bigger pay check for his trouble. No big deal. No election stolen. Lighten up and look at the whole picture.
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Tcaros1 year, 1 month ago
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Ooooh, go get 'em.
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I hope they keep up the registering. We may have a landslide. Just finished watching the debates. All the negative attacks, were answered by Obama. He even answered this false claim about acorn.
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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Johnson and another prolific registrant were subpoenaed to testify at a meeting Monday as the Elections Board continued its look at possible fraud by ACORN, a national organization that tries to get low- and moderate-income people to register. ACORN's methods have drawn interest in a number of states this presidential election year.
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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Johnson, 19, said he mostly was trying to help ACORN workers who begged him to sign up because they needed to keep their jobs.
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"They'd come up with a sob story why they needed the signature," said Johnson, of Garfield Heights.
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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A second person to testify, Christopher Barkley, 33, said ACORN workers pestered him while they tried to gather signatures.
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Barkley, of Cleveland, said he was homeless and reading a book on Public Square when he signed some of the 13 cards that contain his name. He filled out cards - with his mother's house or workplace as the address - to help workers stay employed. -
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4thchance1 year, 1 month ago
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That and other dirty deeds is how Obama is going to win!
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Just wait and see what Obama has up his sleeves after he becomes president. You ain't seen nothin' yet! America is headed down the drain folks. Yes, we all know, Bush has made a mess of things. But it's nothing in comparison to what Obama is going to do to us!
Do you like being a gun owner, well, vote for Obama, he will take them away from you.
Do you want higher taxes, well, Obama will do that for you.
Do you want no retaliation if we are attacked again by terrorists, well, Obama will do nothing if we are attacked again.
Do you want Iran to build a nuke bomb and give it to terrorist, so terrorists can blow us up. Well vote for Obama and you wish may just come true.
Do you want our government to control everything in your life, vote for Obama, that's Obama's hidden agenda....
the list of fun Obama stuff is ENDLESS. Please Vote Obama!-
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StevieGee1 year, 1 month ago
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Obama has said that he won't take away my guns. He has said that he will LOWER my taxes as I make less than 250K. He has said that he will go after bin Laden and other terrorists. He has promised to deal with the Iran problem. He doesn't want to control my life. These are all things that he has said. Should I believe him or should I believe 4thchance, an obviously very angry, racist and homophobe. One thing we can agree upon though. Bush HAS made a mess of things.
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4thchance1 year, 1 month ago
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Oh my, how soon you forget....Obama has said lots of things that have turned out to be LIES. Like when he said he had no ties to William Ayres, That was a lie, and now Obama is backpedaling on that.
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Obama claims he didn't know that reverend Wright preached Hatred for America, sure you bet there Obama, you only attended his church for 20 FREAKIN' YEARS...If you need more proof of the Obama Lie, just ask. I can quote endless amounts of them. So, go ahead and beleive him, YOU FOOL IDIOT DRONE!-
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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"Oh my, how soon you forget....Obama has said lots of things that have turned out to be LIES. Like when he said he had no ties to William Ayres, That was a lie, and now Obama is backpedaling on that."
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--But what you fail to acknowledge is that you poorly educated cons are voting for a guy they know doesn't represent your values. McCain is a RINO, cons and the only reason you're voting for him is it's your only hope to hang onto your ill gotten war time tax cuts. You don't give a crap about voting integrity or keeping the system corruption free. You care about lying and spreading sleaze to keep yourselves in tax cuts and cheap gas. We know what filthy cons are up to. Get serious... ;-(-
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StillUnashamed1 year, 1 month ago
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McCain tied with 2 others for my 4th choice of the Republicans who entered the presidential primary this past January. There is a lot of issues I dissagree with McCain on and several that I do agree with. I have yet to see any major position of Obama's that I agree with. There may be a minor issue on which I agree.
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So the question is: Do I vote for someone I agree with 50% of the time or do I vote for someone I agree with less than 10% of the time?
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Pecossam1 year, 1 month ago
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StevieGee, just as we should with all people, candidates should be judged by what they DO, not what they SAY. Promises are so easy to make and we all know what usually happens after an election, be it local or national.
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I am holding my nose and voting for Mc Cain, another LOTE vote, because I deem what Sen. Obama has said to the plumber recently, and more weighty, his ACTIONS in which he chose some rather dubious characters and groups to associate with. Mc Cain, for all his faults, will not be as DETRIMENTAL to this nation as Sen. Obama will should he be elected President of our great land.
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Oh go ahead and believe Obama. Go and visit his site. Look at all the wonderful things he is promising to have made into law. That is only $800 billion to $1 trillion. Tax the rich just the top 5%. Before they protect their money from taxes he might get about $40 to 60 billion. Guess who pays for the rest? I can hear it now just like Clinton in his state of the Union address after he was elected. "It is so much worse than I thought it was. We need an across the board tax increase." The Democrats will fall all over themselves to do it. They have never seen a spending bill they don't like or a tax increase they don't like. JFK was the last of the Democrat tax cut presidents.
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Who pays the taxes on corporations?
Accountants put taxes on the expense side of the ledger.
They then figure out what the price of the products and services are for a decent profit of about 10%.
That means that their customers pay a hidden tax on what they but from them.
Raise their taxes and the price goes up.
Democrats love that. They tax the corporations and then blame inflation of prices on price gouging and blame the corporations greed. A win win situation for those liberals. Get more money and blame someone else. Then wonder why corporations move to where the taxes are less so they can compete in the global market place. They win again and rant about companies moving out of the country to evade the high taxes they are charging.
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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Whatever a few bad apples at ACORN are doing pales in comparison to what the GOP has been doing (including paying filthy domestic terrorist cons like those here on Propeller to pollute the Internets with their lies and fear mongering) to poison the election.
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NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago
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again, not too bright.
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it says right in the story that the problem lies in registration quotas for acorn workers. they were willing to do anything and everything to get people to sign up and didn't care if it was valid or not. they just wanted numbers.
which has absolutely nothing to do with Obama and more to do with a bunch of low-wage workers just trying to get paid.
plus, to automatically point fingers at Obama is ridiculous since its McCain who has more reason to try and cheat at this stage. he's the one playing catch up. not Obama. Obama doesn't need to cheat to win, so why would he?
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mark-stevens1 year, 1 month ago
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FSU92grad You are a collage grad or at least make that claim. Let me explain.ACORN for some reason runs on a quota system. Either the government or sponsors pay for a registration count.
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Being a registered voter does not automatically give you the right to vote. Proper ID must be presented at the time of voting. Do you honestly think that Tony Romo, R,r,r,r,r, Smith, or Mickey Mouse will be allowed to vote for Obama in Nevada.
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Wolfie20071 year, 1 month ago
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lmao, good one, FSU. So ACORN has a quota for it's workers and that's the reason the people they "pay" have to commit fraud. If ACORN is paying these people anything they've been ripped off. The problem is why does ACORN turn the bad registrations into the election boards? ACORN officials say they check them before they turn them in but what do they check them for? It's hogwash!
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Tangent0011 year, 1 month ago
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"The problem is why does ACORN turn the bad registrations into the election boards? "
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ACORN is required by law to return every single form. The number of registration forms issued to ACORN is audited to ensure there is no possibility of discarding, say Republican registrants. ACORN staff pours through the forms and separates out anything suspicious for further review by the Election Commissions. These forms are bundled together and identified as suspicious when they are submitted. -
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4thchance1 year, 1 month ago
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"ACORN officials say they check them before they turn them in but what do they check them for"
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Acorn checks them to be sure all their PAID fake voters, voted at least 30 times each! Then and only then will Acorn pay the fake voters!
I just love where our country is headed...straight into a DEAD END is where we are headed if these kinds of Democrat dirty tricks are not stopped. Democrats hidden agenda is to have a one party Government. If they are allowed to continue to win elections by cheating, then they will get their one party government and will hold onto their one party Government! I'm afraid folks, I'm very afraid America is SCREWED! -
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AntiNeoCon1 year, 1 month ago
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Hey lets not run FSU off, he is very entertaining. I may not agree with him (because he is a non-gator fan) and a Neocon, but this thread would be boring with him and the other misguided NeoCons. I even gave him a pos vote for the hell of it. :o)
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slate1 year, 1 month ago
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I wonder of they let anyone register if they said they were republicans? Even if this can't be connected to Obama, it is very telling of what the Dems as a party are like after they take the hokier than thou stance that reps cheat?
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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LMAO...Cons are finally concerned about alleged bought elections--when they think they're on the losing end. Typical lying cons will claim they are concerned about cleaning up corrruption now but when asked about Diebold, they shrug and look at the ground like guilty weasels. Cons are unbelievable in every conceivable way. ;-(
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ghstfalcon1 year, 1 month ago
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My concern is that this fraud is far more extensive than we even realize. I have a family member that works in the post office and is shocked that she is delivering stacks and stacks of voter registration cards to each house in some low income neighborhoods in North Carolina. I'm sorry, but 20 people registered to vote in a single 2 bedroom home is a red flag to me. I can't say I know what the answer is, but I think a lot more investigating needs to be done before election day.
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4thchance1 year, 1 month ago
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This is NOT voter fraud, it is NOT voter fraud unless the fraud is committed by a REPUBLICAN. If a Republican did this, then that would be pure voter fraud. But since this was done by a demcrite supporter, then it clearly is NOT VOTER FRAUD! Did you here me, Democrites can do NOTHING WRONG!!!!!
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Tangent0011 year, 1 month ago
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Actually, it is NOT voter fraud. NO BALLOTS HAVE BEEN CAST. ACORN does its best to catch suspicious registrations, but even if Mickey Mouse's voter registration somehow made it onto the books, Mickey Mouse would still have to show up in order to cast his vote!
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The Ohio League of Women Voters did a study of the approximately 9 million votes cast in the last election. Out of the 9 million, 4 were found to be fraudulent. FOUR out of 9 million!
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lovemylibs1 year, 1 month ago
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What about the fraud that ACORN perpetrated in the caucus states during the primary?
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http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/acorn/-
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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No one cares, cons. Let me be the first to say congratulations, President Obama and cons, get over yourselves. You're losing. Accept it and let's plan to support your new President Barack Obama. I can't wait to hear our new President say those wonderful words "I Barack Hussein Obama..." at his Inauguration and start planning to conserve, cons. ;-)
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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Uh...no it's not voter fraud unless someone attempts to vote fraudulently, cons. I can fill out my income tax forms a zillion times with false information. If I don't submit the forms, I haven't committed any crime. Cons, you've got diddly squat. MoveOn. There's nothing to your little spin and prance sidewalk theater. Get educated about Palin instead of wasting time on this phony scandal. ;-)
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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proof please, instead of theories and conjecture....
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This story is proof among many others....
Everything that I saw showed the Al gore and Kerry thing were debunked in terms of voter fraud...Whereas, these ACORN occurences have not....
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hamy1 year, 1 month ago
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That's not what I am talking about. I am talking about the outright voter fraud that the republicans have been engaging in particularly heavy in these last few elections. Watch the Frontline about it and tell me there is no proof that Bush stole the election in 2000 and then kept democrat voters out of the polls in 2004 in Ohio.
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You should look into alzheimers-
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StillUnashamed1 year, 1 month ago
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There's no proof Bush stole the 2000 election. Bush won the count and the recount. There's plenty of proof that Gore tried to steel the 2000 election by his insisting that only heavily democrat counties in Florida be recounted. The media also tried to steel the election for Gore by calling Florida for Gore an hour before the polls closed in N.W. Florida, a heavily Republican area. When democrats carelessly voted for Bucannan thinking they were voting for Gore, it was their own fault. Just like when Republicans left the polling place before casting their vote because the media reported Gore won Florida, it was their own fault.
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Bottom line: Bush won and Gore didn't in 2000. Bush won and Kerry didn't in 2004. Bush will be out of office in 3 months, maybe then ya'll can GET OVER IT!
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hamy1 year, 1 month ago
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/15/obama-sq...
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I don't need to. Here it is in his own words.-
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4thchance1 year, 1 month ago
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It's very apparent now that the bitter divide between the Republicans and Democrats is not going to go away. The bitterness is not getting better, it's on a continual decline into hatred for the other party. So, I'd like to propose that America has a new civil war. We need to end this insanity so one party can come out as the winner. That way, we can pick up the pieces and start a new kind of country.... A new kind of country where Osama Obama rules America for the next 50 years, and no one else has any say so about anything! Vote Osama Obama 2008-2058!!!!!!!!
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hamy1 year, 1 month ago
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And you can blame Karl Rove for that split. He is the one who orchestrated it. He is the one who pushed the culture wars on us. Blame the right people. The Right split us and now doesn't like it.
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We are on the same team.
Adn I love that you talk about hatred and then use Osama Bin Laden to stir hatred against Obama.
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4thchance1 year, 1 month ago
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Sorry to disappoint ya pal, you and I are NOT on the same team, not any more. You democrats have all lost your freaking minds. I want NOTHING to do with any of you morons. BTW, how do you figure that Carl Rove is all to blame for the divide???? That's exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about here, DEMOCRATS have lost their freakin minds...
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willottica1 year, 1 month ago
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Rove was an ardent supporter of the politics of division. It works. It gets votes for your party. But at what cost?
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You come on here and claim that democrats are out of their minds and that they are not on the same team? What about independants who like Obama more, are they also off the team? Republicans for Obama -- they off the team, too?
How about everyone, together, trying to make the country and the world as good as it can be. Sure, there may be disagreements on what that means. But does that mean you stop working together? It shouldn't. Maybe you just stop trying to agree on things like abortion and gay marriage, and you focus on other things that matter. Save the abortion and gay marriage for your own personal discussions and your own personal beliefs.
But you want no part of that team. You have no desire to make the country better. It's your way or the highway. That's basically what you've just said. If you change your mind, the rest of the country will be waiting for you.
Meanwhile, we know who "left" the team. It wasn't THE LEFT, it wasn't THE RIGHT, it was the extremists, who you seem to be quite happy to join. This puts you in the company of Ayers, or it would, except that he's come back. He doesn't "regret" giving up and leaving the team, at the time he thought he had a compelling reason, just as I'm sure you think you do. But he came back from the extreme, and he's been working WITH others since then to make the changes he wants...
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DarkWizard1 year, 1 month ago
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4thchance,
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Dude...I like your energy, but you're weird! Although, I agree, a wedge has been driven between the extreme left and right. Hopefully, those extremists only account for a small percentage of our populace and the majority of people are more reasonable in thinking things through. I don't think a civil war is necessary. But, on the other hand, a revolution may not be out of line if both our civil and individual rights become moot.
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icono11 year, 1 month ago
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Now 'paying people to pay people to register to vote' is quiet a capitalistic thing for a group of socialists to do....
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Oh I see... they are using other peoples money to buy votes to push their, ACORN'S, agenda. Nice use of the 'income redistribution' principle. -
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Lurch1 year, 1 month ago
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Wouldn`t it be neat if the cons cared as much about ensuring legal voters the right to vote as they are about denying Dem voters their right to vote?
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Why activists like Thomas, Scalia, Katherine Harris and half the Republican operatives still out of jail?-
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4thchance1 year, 1 month ago
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No, we only allow a real LIVE CITIZEN to vote one time. That's how our system is suppose to work. Dead People Voting numerous times is NOT ALLOWED. You might want to make note of that before you go to vote. It's illegal to vote more then one time. Oh, and you must still be breathing with a heart beat too... pretty simple rules there pal. GOT IT!?
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MajJohn1 year, 1 month ago
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These rules were violated to get Kennedy elected and this type of fraud has continued thru today. Why do we not see voter registration drives conducted by the conservatives in homeless shelters and under bridges? As this society ages and we have more voters over 50 voting Republican the Democrats have to seek new voters, even if it means courting illegals, homeless and others disassociated from society. The next registration drive will probably be in prisons and houses of ill repute.
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MajJohn1 year, 1 month ago
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These rules were violated to get Kennedy elected and this type of fraud has continued thru today. Why do we not see voter registration drives conducted by the conservatives in homeless shelters and under bridges? As this society ages and we have more voters over 50 voting Republican the Democrats have to seek new voters, even if it means courting illegals, homeless and others disassociated from society. The next registration drive will probably be in prisons and ***** house..
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HateKoolAid1 year, 1 month ago
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California is a state that lives by the 'initiative' . Every state wide election they have at least a half dozen propositions on the ballot. The way these propositions get on the ballot is by petitions that are circulated at shopping malls etc. Only qualified voters can sign these. Various political groups hire people to man these card tables to get signatures for about 10 cents apiece. These signed petitions are then collected and submitted to the proper agency for verification of the signatures. The reject rate for invalid signatures is always around 20-30 percent. Oddly no one every screams FRAUD. If ACORN is actually instructing their canvassers to get people to sign multiple cards, then yes, ACORN is abetting registration fraud. However if these people are doing it on their OWN in order to get more money, they are the ones committing fraud not ACORN. ACORN is not legally certified to verify signatures, the appropriate county registrar is.
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JoeModerate1 year, 1 month ago
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OK, here's the answer:
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It was ACORN supervisors who flagged suspicious cards. ACORN is required by law to return every single form. The number of registration forms issued to ACORN is audited to ensure there is no possibility of discarding, say Republican registrants. ACORN staff pours through the forms and separates out anything suspicious for further review by the Election Commissions. These forms are bundled together and identified as suspicious when they are submitted.
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Tcaros1 year, 1 month ago
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I just finished watching the debate. Good news on every channel. Most saying Obama won by double digits. Everyone positive on Obama, well except Fox News. Everyone knows that Fox is full of the crap.
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DarkWizard1 year, 1 month ago
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Ah...another article that gives the neocon faithful a place to hangout and sharpen their wit. Seeing so many neocons foaming at the mouth when a scrap drops from the table is so heartwarming. I'll miss the good old days when the neocons become extinct. I mean, the neocons are about as Republican as the Woolly Mammoth is an elephant. Maybe historians will write about the Woolly...er...I mean neocons and how they became extinct because they couldn't survive in a world that decided to move forward. Maybe they'll be remembered like the witch hunters of Salem that were so righteous, pious, and wrong! Oh yes...I'll miss the good old days...
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clsassano1 year, 1 month ago
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Also, Did you know that Mohamed Atta, the 9/11 ring leader, had a valid Florida driver’s license?
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Did you know 13 of the 19 hijackers had obtained valid driver’s licenses? Armed with these licenses, eight of the hijackers even registered to vote! How did that happen?
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