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chevydog1 year, 2 months ago
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Though they cannot accurately be described as part of the "Christian Right", the Catholic Church and Catholic voters also have some concerns with Sen. Obama's position on abortion. There's an interesting article today (10/14) in the Newsweek section of msn.com concerning this. The author (not sure whether he's Catholic or not) basically asseses whether the justifications used by three high-profile Catholic lay people to support Sen. Obama are likely to pass muster theologically with Catholic bishops. His conclusion is no. I guess we'll see if that's really true and if so what actions spring from it.
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It's no great secret that Sen. Obama's voting record on abortion is basically "on demand, no restrictions". For the campaign, he's made some statements that the campaign says will lead to a reduced number of abortions. The three prominent Catholic lay people from above obviously believe this; one has to wonder how many others will. One also has to wonder what the bishops who "cover" this area will say. I'm no theologian, but my guess is that they'll basically say that it's way too little and way too late. Either way, there's going to be a lot of soul searching among Catholic voters.-
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antibrainwasher1 year, 2 months ago
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I live by a Catholic Church, ever time the church bell rings, another Alter boy in america is sodimized by a sex starved priest.
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Why would anyone take direction from priests, who are all a collection of repressed homosexuals and pedophiles. Delusional believers in jewish fairytales, who live for a nonexistant afterlife, wasting the one life they do have.
There is no evidence of any of the millions of versions of afterlife religious con men have invented in the hundreds of thousands of years con men have been grifting religious morons.
No heaven, no hell, no gods, no demi-god jesus, no purgatory, no angles, saints, its all a steaming cauldren of con man invented crap. Liquid crap slurped up by MORONS.-
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
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take your hatred and stuff it, ABW.
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Live up to your name and stop trying to propagate stereotypes.
Seriously, as a left-leaning free-thinker, one who refuses to believe in the Bible literally, one who questions and continues to question his own beliefs, your rants disgust me.-
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
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I was thinking "priests, who are all a collection of repressed homosexuals and pedophiles" was hatred.
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Obviously, you made the decision NOT to want to find fault with his statement. I didn't ask him to stop questioning, I asked him to stop propagating stereotypes, which he OBVIOUSLY was doing.
As for the part of his statement about there being no evidence of an afterlife, I completely agree... and if you bothered to read my last paragraph, you would likely have known that.
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vor1 year, 2 months ago
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You really believe the Bible is literal? I know that is the view of a large number of Americans but if you go back and look athow this document was assembled, where the bits and pieces came from and how they then picked over and chosen it would seem highly unlikely this would be the case. We are talking about people who lived under great fear and superstition and were attempting to explain their existence and why so many terrible things occurred to them. To rely on such a document (and it isn'tjust the Bible but all of this ancient dogma) in a modern world is one of the great failings of mankind. It was the subjugation and oppression of the church that kept these books alive. We have had only a few hundred years where anything else was optional in the Western world. Isn't it about time some of you broke free of that yoke? The persistent reliance on myth and rejection of reality has brought us little good.
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mark-stevens1 year, 2 months ago
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Abortion is the most misunderstood topic ever. The actual act of getting an abortion, can cause a serious infection that could cause sterility, serious life threatening hemorrhaging.
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There is a huge abortion clinic in Seattle name after the airport motel it's based out off.
The clients are treated like a Broadway play audition cattle call.
I have taken young women there, because they didn't want to cause a fight with their boyfriends over sex and the possibility of getting pregnant. It sounds like the boyfriends maybe more the problem than first reported-
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kritikit1 year, 2 months ago
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What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
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What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said 'I do' to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her
charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?
What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative
qualities in another when there is a color difference.
You are The Boss... which team would you hire?
With America facing historic debt, 2 wars, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population,
mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc.
Educational Background:
Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna *** Laude
Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
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McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899
Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
Now, which team are you going to hire ?
PS: What if Barack Obama had an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter....-
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Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago
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I like the part about the Keating 5. If Obama were in place of McCain he would probably not have done what McCain did and get censored like three other Democrats. The two former military men did the right thing and walked out of that meeting and did nothing. John Glen and John McCain were found innocent of ANY wrongdoing. Obama does not have the ethics that the military grind into their officers at their schools.
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oneironaut4201 year, 2 months ago
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"The actual act of getting an abortion, can cause a serious infection that could cause sterility, serious life threatening hemorrhaging."
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Indeed. And pregnancy can cause:
Embolisms
Life-threatening anemia
Broken bones
Hemorrhaging
Arrhythmia
Eclampsia
Permanent back injuries
Serious infection
Sterility
Hemorrhaging
Death
Your point? 8)
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Dionys1 year, 2 months ago
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The Catholic Church may have some concerns with Obama's abortion stance but the majority of 'average' Catholics do not, as they understand that the Catholic Church is not a monolithic Church in that often times individual Catholics disagree with certain policies of the Church as a whole.
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Considering that Obama has plans in place to reduce the number of abortions, and increase adoption / bringing pregnancies to term despite his abortion-rights stance for those who understand we don't live in a theocracy and McCain has no such plan other than being anti-abortion rights (which likely won't actually reduce the number of abortions -- just drive them underground resulting in more deaths across the board).. One could say that voting for Obama would more closely support the Church's stance on reducing abortions.-
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Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago
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ROTFLMAO
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His stance as voted on 4 times in the legislature was to let abortionists allow babies that survived the abortion die by putting them in the garbage or on a shelf. Such compassion for the living. He wants to put in place a federal law that will make any type of abortion to be paid for and supported by the federal government. That includes the partial birth abortions where a breach birth is done and part of the head is left in the vagina and the brains are sucked out. Almost all of the baby is out of the mother but part of the head. Such compassion. This is what majority of 'average' Catholics believe is good. What alternate universe do you live in. A baby completely born and a baby almost all the way born. That is his voting record and philosophy. It disgusts me.
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