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Posted By capj71 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsThe latest Quinnipiac University/ Wall Street Journal/Washington Post swing state poll was released today, and it finds Barack Obama surging ahead of John McCain in the critical swing states of Colorado, Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. The big news is that Obama now leads McCain with men in each state, and Sarah Palin has completely fallen apart.
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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The dumbocrat dribble and kindergarden whining is unbelievable. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. Racism knows no color. There are White racist,Black racist,Brown racist, ECT. To some it is a hatred, to some it is distrust, and to others it is a tool of deceit. The last thing the USA needs at this time is an Amateur. There is no time for on the job training. More Socialist debt is definitely not what we need. Research what and who you vote for, check your resources, do not buy into the hype, think and reason for yourself. Being what one "guppy" called an old f*rt, I have already survived this type situation (Carter), and really shiver at the thought of having to go through it again. Therefore the inexperience definitely concerns me. The Socialist leaning is a big red flag. Obama's record shows nothing to recommend him. Pretty words and rhetoric may soothe the soul but do nothing to solve problems.
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Tangent0011 year, 1 month ago
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Honestly, I don't think there's anything overtly racist going on. The McCain campaign is attempting to cast Obama as the 'other', certainly. That may cast a net that snares racists, yes, but I don't think that is the intent.
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Regardless of the two books Obama has written about his life, regardless of the intense scrutiny he as received, we still see articles about 'Who is Obama?' What this intrinsically implies is that there are questions Obama has yet to answer. I think what it really means is that there is a 'truth' that has been constructed around Obama and unless he 'admits' to it, we will never really know the 'true Obama'.
Brilliant strategy, but I think it's backfiring. Obama as been noting but frank about every single question presented to him about his character, his policies and his associations. I hope McCain follows through with his intent to 'call' Obama on his association with Ayers during the next debate. Obama has only to answer, "Senator, why are you asking me about someone I barely know when the economy is on fire?"-
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kableroshun1 year, 1 month ago
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Amervtrn: you spoke correctly of racism. But the technical definition of racism, as in, someone's private feelings, are not really the point. The point is that racism, in our lifetime, led a lot of people to murder. The reason racism is such a white person's issue is the history of what white people have done BECAUSE of being racist. If white people had not killed so many black people for being black, we wouldn't be paying the price of being the typical subject of the "racist" label.
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Naej1 year, 1 month ago
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Very strange that any time I pick up a newspaper or listen to news it is mostly a BLACK person doing the murdering! Blacks murder blacks as well as whites. When people like you start looking at the person and not their color of skin the world will be a much better place. The reason I do not want Obama to be president is not his color but his values. He seems to favor worshiping the Islam faith rather than the Christian faith. Islam followers behead anyone who does not worship their God. I prefer to worship our God who is a loving God. Just be very careful who you vote for!!!
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 1 month ago
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We already have socialized roads and highways. We have socialized sewers and water. We have socialized schools. We have socialized police, fire protection, military, and prosecutors. We have socialized air traffic control and national parks. We have socialized banking (as of today). We have socialized radio/tv spectrum… The list goes on and on.
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So "my friend," your fear of socialism is simply a bogeyman for you. This really isn't about socialism, is it? The whole socialism argument is code for "I don't want my money going to violent lazy black people as welfare. You think socialism means welfare, don't you?-
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HarryPenn1 year, 1 month ago
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Just thought I would mention the socialistic bailout of the trillion dollar bust.
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Socialism for the disgustingly filthgy rich who creat the mess, but trickle down (urine) capitalism and stable cleaning for everyone else?
Oops!! Forgot. The bailout socialism is only temporary. The oversight regulations WILL Be lifted!!
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onewayfarer1 year, 1 month ago
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What can be more socialist than the Federal government bailing out (giving money) to huge corporations(banks,this time) with billions of dollars? Once again it's the Republican party that's doling out dollars to private companies that paid their c.e.o.'s millions of bucks to run the company into the ground to bail them out.The Republicans talk a great game,but their true symbol is not an elephant,but the 'hammer & sickle'.They seem to be a bunch of suit wearing, 'Give the money to the wealthy' Communist.(Remember the savings & loan bailout,"Old Fart?"How much of that money did they allocate to you?
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JEBUS081 year, 1 month ago
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how many times do i have to read this exact same post? word for word
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come up with something different - just because that repetitive bull works
when the talking heads on the radio and tv do it, doesnt mean its
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DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago
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First of all she wasn't in trouble with the law simply because it wasn't a legal issue. The "findings" came out of a kangaroo court panel to satisfy their own personal vendetta agenda and using public funds to do so. Yes, we all know that the legislative body uses public funds in the investigative process but this one wasn't necessary and is very much invalid because it's the Personnel Board that is responsible for investigating complaints of an ethical nature. Get your facts straight before posting your vitriolic comments. Palin and her husband will be cooperating 100% with the Board's investigation at the end of this month BTW!
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
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"The "findings" came out of a kangaroo court panel to satisfy their own personal vendetta agenda and using public funds to do so."
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The findings came from a bi-partisan, mostly Republican appointed investigation team. Palin and her husband, along with the other people McCain Lawyers asked to refuse testimony should be prosecuted for refusing a summons.
She said she'd cooperate fully with this investigation, so it begs the question what's different about the 'Personnel Board' investigation. Could it be that she only wants to cooperate now with the investigation she's already been assured would find 'nothing' ?
I'm frankly tired of politicians refusing testimony because of "state secrets," "executive privilege" or various other illegal excuses (illegal because the supreme court has decided in the case of BushCo that they are illegal excuses). All it does is set the most dangerous people in the world out of the reach of the law. It's not good for America no matter who is in office, or which 'side' is refusing to comply with the law.
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CHUCKM2341 year, 1 month ago
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If the Bozo Obama Hussen becomes president, I will no longer be a proud American. Obama will "Never" be my president. You liberal idiots need to get off your ass and get a job and stop sucking off the working class. Quit expecting something for nothing.
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I'm sure our founding fathers are turning in their graves. This country is turning into a third world crap whole thanks to the democrats-
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GWHayduke1 year, 1 month ago
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That is some well thought out commentary, chuckie.
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You epitomize the worst of this country.
You support of failure and disregard for solutions is typical of the mentally challenged majority of the current Republican party.
You ludicrously claim that 'liberal idiots' need to stop "sucking off {sic} the working class", yet your failure to recognize that the working class is spending FAR more of their money supporting the 'investing class' of ultra wealthy at the hands of idiotic domestic policy (think war, oil and defense spending) while building the planets largest deficit!
Economics 101 is a good starting point. Deficits do not pay for themselves, nor do they just disappear.
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coymoy1 year, 1 month ago
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The only people talking about race are leftist liberals. This was a strategy that the Obama campaign devised at the on set (against Hillary) and it has continued as a tool to bar legitimate inquiry into the background and associations of Barack Obama.
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Tangent0011 year, 1 month ago
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Oh please! Obama has been hammered over and over again about Wright, Ayers, Resko, his 'Muslim upbringing', etc. To say there hasn't been legitimate inquiry is laughable. The ONLY reason you don't consider it 'legitimate' is that the answers didn't conform to your version of the 'truth'.
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pokydoke1 year, 1 month ago
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I seem to remember reading one of your posts where you referred to Mr Obama as 'Monkey boy". Maybe I'm wrong but that does sound a bit racist to me. There were several other references to scratching fleas. Unless you're a liberal Democrat I think that qualifies you as a racist, actually lets call a spade a spade you are a racist. We are so proud of you for that, what a fine example for a American citizen.
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sptu61 year, 1 month ago
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Dream on democrats and liberal media. McCain will win this election because the people is not buying the CNN polls and the forcing of the "race issue". The liberal media is trying to make us believe that if you are not supporting Obama, then it must be because you are a racist. when in fact the only reason is that he is simply not prepared to handle the task and to be the leader of the free world. His whole campaign is just a huge dog and pony show.
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LiberalElite11 year, 1 month ago
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Um... listen backwoods, you're losing. Accept the fact that Americans are finally realizing what they need to survive, and guess what, its NOT McSAME and PSYCHO! OBAMA and BIDEN 08'. Now, there's change you can count on. Not voting for Obama doesn't make you a racist, it just shows how OUT OF TOUCH and STUPID you are.
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mc20081 year, 1 month ago
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biden hates obama we know why he is running for vice.... keep watching cnn and obama hussian ploy on change ... change u can count on he has 154 days experience mcain is not bush he deserves 2 be president he actually loves america and will stand for this country unlike that terrorist supporter that is known bc of oprah nobama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GWHayduke1 year, 1 month ago
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I heard that Obama was importing his friends in Al-Qaeda and the Talinban to the US to collaborate with ACORN to swing the vote in his favor.
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FOX & Limbaugh say so - it MUST be true.
"Drive-by".....is that your code for "I have to use soundbytes of disinformation because I cant think for myself"?
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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Laughing so loud out loud that I woke hubby up!!!!!
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That is so funny, ACORN buying votes!!!! ACORN paid people to register voters, get your facts straight because your making the Republicans look like idiots.
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najjr31 year, 1 month ago
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McCain buying votes, you say...? I don't think so. Mr. Obama just explained how ACORN could have made those stupid mistakes in voter registration...He knows!
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Because he's been there before...in the front lines for ACORN...!
Now he's using ACORN (because this org. is ran by "liberal bigots") following the tricks of the trade from the master strategist Obama,
See the picture...? How naive can you be.....!?
Just follow the dots....Obama's alliances with local-breed anti-americans, like Ayers,
pastor Wright...? You want more..?
Then ask the mainstream media to do their investigative reporting, with fairness and quest for the truth!
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bubba21 year, 1 month ago
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ANYONE that knows ANYTHING about the voter registration process "knows".
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There is NO "voter fraud".
NO one has voted!
ACORN runs voter REGISTRATION drives. They do NOT handle ANY election balloting or voting.
Some voter REGISTRATION cards/forms are suspect or fraudulent. ACORN is required BY LAW to turn in EVERY form that is filled out, and they even flag the forms that look suspect or suspicious before they are turned in!
The REGISTRATION forms that turn out to be bogus/invalid will be DISCARDED, and those "people" will NEVER vote!
THAT is why there is no "voter" fraud.
YOU are the naive one, because you listen to drivel from the likes of FOX News and you don't even bother to check any of it for accuracy or truth.
McCain SOUGHT the endorsements of John Hagee (who called the Catholic Church the "great wh*re") and Rod Parsley (who said that America was formed to destroy Islam).
You want more????
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
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If alt or anyone else, still believes John McCain is going to win:
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Let them go to http://www.intrade.com/
Ten shares of McCain stock cost $23 on Monday..
If you think McCain will win, invest $23,000 now and collect $100,000 in 3 weeks
Go for it, alt!
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dirtylosbluphi1 year, 1 month ago
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I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WILL BE THE REACTION OF THE WORLD WHEN OBAMA IS ELECTED. IF BY CHANCE HE DOESN'T WIN, WE PEOPLE THAT IS SUPPORTING HIM WILL BE OK, DISAPPOINTED BUT OK. BUT THE PEOPLE THAT IS SUPPORTING MCCAIN IS SUBJECT TO HAVE A MYOCARDIAL INFARTION. MCCAIN SUPPORTERS CAN'T IMAGINE THIS WORLD RAN BY AN AFRICAN AMERICAN. IT'S OK I PROMISE. PLEASE DONT HAVE A HEART ATTACK. LIFE DOES GO ON. OBAMA SUPPORTERS STAY STRONG. OBAMA 08
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't know about the rest of the world, but if McCain wins, I'm going to get as far away from the border as I can.
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't think McCain voters are that excited by their candidate. They will be disappointed on some issues, but it won't be a big big deal. They didn't really have much to choose from. Romney was a combination of left and right, but on the wrong issues. He was probably the strongest overall candidate, although I thought Ron Paul was the best republican.
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I don't understand the excitement over Obama, either. If he wins, I'll just be working hard to stop him from letting people like Soros and Bloomberg run fast and loose and roughshod over the constitution, buying their totalitarian agendas with their billions. I'll keep his feet to the fire on the U.N. and on separation of church and state. I thought Clinton was the democrats' strongest candidate.
I wasn't excited about Carter, either, but he was affable like Obama. I've never been a fan of Bush (I couldn't see what people saw in him, either).
I'm not too worried, irrespective of who wins. At least we'll have someone more flexible than Bush in the White House, and I think that will be a good thing for foreign policy. Things are going to be tough for ordinary people, no matter who wins.
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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This is supposed to be an election for president not PR rock star. You are hiring the CEO of Firm USA. Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy? If you complain about Palin's experience to be VP candidate where does that leave Obama? She has more real experience than he has. Or is Obama really running as Biden's VP?
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Polls are like statistics and accounting statements: Never to be believed unless you have falsified them yourself.
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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Puh-leeze...Cons didn't have a problem when Chuck Norris was stumping for Huckleberry Hound or when the beauty pageant runner up caused right wingers to swoon like Beatles groupies. Of course it's a popularity contest. Stop being silly.
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ProudBlueTexan1 year, 1 month ago
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You can't get anything right. The USA does not need a CEO; it needs a leader with guts enough to represent all Americans. Using that criterion, there's only one ticket in this election to choose from.
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DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago
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Notice on Larry King Live last night with Charles Barclay. Barclay kept insisting that RACE is not the issue but King kept pushing the issue just like the rest of CNN/DNC. I have a deep respect for Barclay even if he does support Obama.
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
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"McCain will win this election because the people is not buying the CNN polls and the forcing of the "race issue". "
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God save us if people this poorly educated are voting. McCain might have a chance at pulling the sheets over their eyes. Well. That is if they don't already have sheets over their heads. -
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JEBUS081 year, 1 month ago
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stop pulling that liberal media bull. its old, sick and tiring. where were they when clinton was getting impeached, when florida/ohio was stole, kerry was swift boated, and throughout all of the illegal and unethical activities of the bush admin. remember when the vp shot a 70+ year old in the face. what would have happened had al gore done that. liberal media was thought up to have a scapegoat whenever your policy or argument doesnt agree with general opinion, then all you have to say is liberal media and you dont even have to argue your point.
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SonnyMark1 year, 1 month ago
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the day by day polls are very confusing as to what is actually going on. I think it will have to come down to Election day to see. Certainly it's going to be tight no matter what. Florida is going to be a VERY interesting state, to see how that goes.
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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1980 During the campaign most polls showed the two major candidates locked in an even contest. The election produced a different picture. The Republican team of Ronald Reagan and George Bush was swept into office in a landslide victory with about 51% of the popular vote (and 489 electoral votes) to Carter's 42% (49 electoral votes) and Anderson's 7% (no electoral votes). Here is the faith in McCain.The dumbocrat dribble and kindergarden whining is unbelievable. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. Racism knows no color. There are White racist,Black racist,Brown racist, ECT. To some it is a hatred, to some it is distrust, and to others it is a tool of deceit. The last thing the USA needs at this time is an Amateur. There is no time for on the job training. More Socialist debt is definitely not what we need. Research what and who you vote for, check your resources, do not buy into the hype, think and reason for yourself. Being what one "guppy" called an old f*rt, I have already survived this type situation(Carter years), and really shiver at the thought of having to go through it again. Therefore the inexperience definitely concerns me. The Socialist leaning is a big red flag. Obama's record shows nothing to recommend him. Pretty words and rhetoric may soothe the soul but do nothing to solve problems.
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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LMAO...I just think it's funny that I didn't hear about any "confusion" regarding polls from anyone on the right in the days immediately following Sarah Palin's debutante ball. There was a blip or bump or whatever in the polls and this was allegedly a sign that it was curtains for the Obama campaign. What a difference a few weeks makes.
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Tcaros1 year, 1 month ago
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Let's see on Palin.
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She doesn't believe in dinosaurs and she can see Russia from her window. The Russia part is her foreign policy experience. The dinosaurs relate to her beliefs? She tried to have a "state trooper" fired for having divorced her sister. The ethics panel found she "abused her office and violated state ethics laws." She says "I'm glad they cleared me."
She has a really "excited voice" that kinda goes to a crescendo like something really fantastic is going to happen. She calls McCain, a 72 year old elitist and washington insider a maverick.
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cleare1 year, 1 month ago
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hey there eagle! i love your "my friend" quote. every time i hear mcsame use that phrase i want to jump up and insist i'm not his "friend". it also reminds me of bush's signature phrase "What the American people need to understand..."
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god willing and the crick don't rise, we will soon have relief from these inarticulate idiots.
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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Clinton lost his law license and his ability to teach law as a result of lying to the grand jury.
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The main problem in the Clinton affair was Tripp used an illegal wiretap and the Republicans then in power in Montgomery County, Maryland turned a blind eye and didn't prosecute (otherwise the tapes would have been held as evidence).
There should never have been an impeachment hearing--or grand jury in the first place. And Tripp was allowed to keep her cushy, high-paying appointee job by Clinton, who sought to be bi-partisan in his hiring practices.
Tripp was the snake that bit the hand that fed her.
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mmrhe1 year, 1 month ago
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You know the McCain of 2000 would've scoffed at Palin for VP...She's the Albatross the Far Right forced him to wear and now they will finally pay for all their abuse with a landslide humiliation this November.
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scottinwny1 year, 1 month ago
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Hey Propeller I wish you would have stated in your polling that over 40% of those polled were democrat and only about 30% polled were republican.
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Hmmmmmm. I am so sick and tired of this bogus polls. They tell us nothing.
Remember Bush was behind in 2004 and won
Reagan was behind in 1980 by 13% and won.
These polls are so statistically insignificant they are embarassing.
Palin has fallen? Hmmmmmmmmm I habitually see her getting 15,000 to 20,000 at her rallys #'s Biden could only dream of.
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Tangent0011 year, 1 month ago
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You really don't understand how polling works, do you. The current populace of America is about 32% Republican, 38% Democrat, 28% Independent, and the rest 'other'. The sample is random and therefore supposed to be representative of the populace as a whole.
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pettefft1 year, 1 month ago
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Palin knows more about running government than Hussein Obama will ever know. Liberal media is responsible for most negative information that small heads and uneducated voters seem to relish. Fools. Patriots of America, unite and fight those who would destroy this nation.
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toph19731 year, 1 month ago
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So it was the Liberal Media that dumbed down this country enough that voters put a traitor in office as the president, not only once, but twice? Please. The republicans have singlehandedly destroyed this country with their fascism. And you are responsible for installing it. Some American you are.
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scottinwny1 year, 1 month ago
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Liberals, one thing my communist friends.
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Becareful what you wish for because you just might get it.
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For the life of me I have no clue why so many liberals hate Palin. She has never done anything to hurt anyone on these polls. She is not part of the corrupt Washington Political machine and she doesnt socialize with liberal media.
If anything, Obama, Biden, and the left media are being racist against her.
For those of you who call Sarah dumb look at your Biden.
1) Wanted to divide Iraq into 3 separate countries before the surge and got laughed at out of the room. Patraeus basically called him a moron.
2) said you cant got into a 7/11 without speaking Indian now a days.
3) said President FDR gave a tv speech about the stockmarket crash in 1929 to Katie Couric when in fact there FDR was only a governor and there were no tv's
4) Said he got shot at while being in a helicopter in Afghanistan and the chopper had to make an emergency landing. As John Kerry said, bad weather caused to land early.
5) Biden continues to say he was raised in Scranton when in fact he spent 99% of his childhood life in Delaware.
6) Last debate Obama called out corporate credit card companies for having their HQ's in Delaware for the tax exemptions. Ummm that is where is Biden is from and he hasnt done anything to change it.
7) Back in Feb 2008 during the Democratic Primary Biden only got 2% of the vote in Delaware. To me that tells me his own people cant stand him.
I will take a Palin who is for lowering social security taxes, lowering income taxes, lower capital gains taxes, lowering dividends, lowering gas prices by drilling while increasing the taxes oil companies pay to redistribute their wealth to everyday folk vs a Biden who is so wrapped up in Washington it is scary any day of the week.
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Tangent0011 year, 1 month ago
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Um, Biden is not running for president. He's there to 'balance the ticket'. Palin is there to...um...be cute?
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Lemme get this straight: Palin is for increasing taxes on oil companies while McCain is for giving oil companies a $2 billion tax break? Palin wants to "...redistribute their wealth to everyday folk ..."? Isn't that the dreaded 'Socialism'? Who, exactly, will you be voting for? McCain or Palin? -
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 1 month ago
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Quite simply, Palin is a baldfaced liar. She said she visited countries where she only changed planes Not to mention the bridge to nowhere and a whole host of other claims that were quickly debunked.
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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It's a political campaign, and people tend to be ideologues. It goes with the human territory. I watched this same thing happen with Jimmy Carter, and people were absolutely jumping for joy because he was going to save us from the dirty politics of Richard Nixon--although Ford was running.
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I saw it in the venomous hatred towards Bill Clinton. I see that same venomous hatred directed at Palin, for whatever reason. Every misstep is overblown, while Obama missteps are ignored. Just ideology, pure and simple. And I don't think we are as glued to the party platforms as the parties would lead us to believe.
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suherr1 year, 1 month ago
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IAF organizers like Obama were thus trained to target individuals for hate and denunciation, to exploit the organizational benefits of having enemies, and to pursue “justice” by creating conflict and confrontation. Personal targeting and scapegoating became a central organizing principle for IAF-trained community organizers, instigated by Alinsky’s lieutenant and successor Ed Chambers. Rooney makes clear that the IAF is brutally cynical about the constant need for fresh victims. Obama’s IAF thus made it official policy that political opponents were to be turned into personal enemies (or “ripe targets”).
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We are presently seeing this “politics of vilification” by members of the Left in their targeted hate against Sarah Palin, who is a personal victim of IAF-style programs that build animosity against their political opponents. This method that the IAF employs is profoundly wrong morally. Barack Obama, an IAF community organizer, has not spoken of a single fault with the IAF. -
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suherr1 year, 1 month ago
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“IAF leaders are brazenly explicit about their appetite for power.” (p. 222)
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“Once you have power, you can afford to be nice.” (p. 226)
“To wean [churches] from fulfilling traditional expectations.” (p. 223)
“To energize [a pastor the IAF wanted to recruit], the first thing they did at those meetings was to begin conspicuously with a prayer.” (p. 99)
“You need diverse sources of funds, so that if [one church in an IAF-inspired coalition] want[s] to pull out our money, fine, we still have Episcopal money; if they want to pull out, then we’ve got Lutheran money. Plus, the fact that over three years we have put over $150,000 of our own money in the bank. So they can all take a big flying [expletive], I don’t care.” (p. 232)
“There is no nice way to bring about change. All change comes through pressure and threats.” (p. 226)
“Increase militancy by polarizing the situation, by identifying the enemy, and by developing the situation in terms of good guys and bad guys.” (p. 89)
“It is absolutely essential to select a ripe target [a person] and build animosity toward him or her.” (p. 228)
“A target has to be selected and mercilessly zeroed in on.” (p. 228)
The person selected is to be “targeted as a stock villain, a lackey of the corrupt political establishment.” (p. 228)
When a target has “become too shopworn to continue to light up anyone’s emotional switchboard,” it is necessary to choose new people to target “as action lightning rods.” (p. 228)
“All IAF organizers take huge delight in planning the drama of confronting authorities. Perhaps it is their ecclesiastical backgrounds, with its loving attention to rituals and ceremonies, but clearly their enthusiasm for the details and rich symbolism of staged events is irrepressible.” (p. 85)
[New York Mayor Koch:] “I had the feeling I was in some Nuremberg stadium. There was a military band. There were more than 1,000 people, chanting. They were thumping standards on the floor. It was like mass hysteria and very militant.” (p. 86) [Do we not see here a model for Obama’s Greek-columned, fireworks-enhanced stadium acceptance speech?]-
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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
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I find it highly ironic that your name ... when pronounced ... sounds suspiciously like SEWER.
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I can' help but think you did this intentionally ... knowing that your purpose is to dredge up the detritus of mindless demagoguery.
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rrohrbackd1 year, 1 month ago
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This is my state under Democrat rule:
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Body count in the last six months:
292 killed (murders) in Chicago ;
221 killed in Iraq defending freedom.
Chicago.... Who Runs it?:
Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin
Rep: Jesse Jackson Jr.,
Illinois Gov: Rod Blogojevich, Illinois House leader Mike Madigan,
Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),
Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J.
Daley.....the leadership in Illinois .....all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago !!.....of course, they're all
blaming each other!
But this time, they can't blame Republicans because they're aren't any!
NEED MORE STATISTICS FOR CHICAGO AND ILLINOIS ?
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look 'em
up if you want).
Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country. Obama and Ayers project really worked, huh?
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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Chicago politics where in place all ready with the "Daley Machine" long before Obama ever come onto the scene. Cicero Illinois was mob headquarters, south side of Chicago was highest crime rates in the Nation....all in the 60's and 70's
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They were there in the 60 & 70 when Obama was a child.......
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ADAGUY1 year, 1 month ago
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I'm close friends with a family that moved here from Chicago back in 1962. This family is of very strong republican nature. The mother of the family and I were talking one day, and i was joking, accusing her of voting for Mayor Daley. She went on to tel me that anyone with any sense voted for Daley, because if you voted for him, you would certainly not run out of heating fuel (coal) the following winter. She said that he ran the city very well, and for that reason most voters were loyal to him
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diogenes21st1 year, 1 month ago
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Illinois is my state, too, and much of what he says is true. What he doesn't tell you is that we built up huge state deficits under 26 straight years of Republican governors. Under 26 straight years of Republican state rule we continued to spend outlandishly, we helped their wealthy and connected friends, we sold driver's licenses to unqualified truck drivers to raise campaign funds, we refused to raise taxes on the wealthy to pay for anything, we refused to fund schools, we refused to fund police and fire and teacher retirement funds. Most of this, by the way, in direct violation of the state constitution. It was 26 years of Republican governors who were all about helping big business, helping themselves, helping their families and helping millionaires. And now we're in a big mess. In many ways Illinois is a microcosm of nearly 30 years of voodoo economics sold as populist remedies. Sound familiar? Obama has opposed these guys here, and gained a hell of a lot of respect for it.
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suherr1 year, 1 month ago
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On the seventh anniversary of 9/11 last month, Barack Obama told an audience at Columbia University that his best education came not from Columbia (where he earned his bachelor’s degree) but afterwards, when he became a community organizer in Chicago. Obama intended no offense to his alma mater (and none was taken). But his remark raises the question just why he thinks the lessons of community organizing exceed the lessons of an Ivy League education.
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Gary011 year, 1 month ago
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Dear Sir,
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If you've ever had a true hands on job, you would know that there is no teacher like experience. To learn theory, you get it in school or college from books. To earn real life experience, you must experience real life. Does a doctor learn more about surgery from 'reading' Grey's Anatomy or by actually opening and getting into a person's body. Don't be (or act)naive, hands on life experiences teaches and shows you things that books and teachers don't think of or are unable to teach.-
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RedstateLib1 year, 1 month ago
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"If you've ever had a true hands on job, you would know that there is no teacher like experience."
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cleare1 year, 1 month ago
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i'd just like to know when and how praiseworthy activities like community organizing suddenly became so unappreciated, even vilified. could it be since the start of the mcsame campaign?
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i'd also like to know when and how americans decided that being intelligent and articulate equated to elitism and became somehow undesirable?
there seems to be no respect for education or community service and this is a sad, sad commentary on our society.
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suherr1 year, 1 month ago
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so you thinker voter fraud and the refusal to investigate in Congree the allegations is any conincidence? and did you know if you have a mortgage,any mortgage over the summer the democrats proposed and voted into every single mortgage in this country a $400 contribution to fannie and Freddie, nice you might want to check your mortgage especially if you disagreed with the baolout becaue they pulled of the big ripoff over the summer, every single mortgage had a $400 contribution added, that is a fact
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Tangent0011 year, 1 month ago
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I have a mortgage. I checked all my paperwork and I have no idea what you are talking about. By law, my mortgage company has to inform me of any change to my payments and the government as no authority whatsoever to change what I agreed to. My property taxes may go up (they didn't), but that's about it.
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This is from a conservative magazine:
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Republicans theorized that raising the rate of home ownership would create more conservative voters, as Margaret Thatcher was said to have done in Britain by selling public housing flats to their tenants. Thus, George W. Bush campaigned in 2004 under the rubric ”the ownership society.” As the President explained in his eye-glazing prose style:
...[I]f you own something, you have a vital stake in the future of our country. The more ownership there is in America, the more vitality there is in America, and the more people have a vital stake in the future of this country.
Thus, in a 2004 address to home builders, Bush called for the Federal Housing Administration to issue zero down payment mortgages in order to aid 150,000 first-time buyers per year, saying,
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suherr1 year, 1 month ago
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the more federal control the more freedom you lose, why do you think Barrack and the media have kept so much of his past under raps, suppressed, if you knew half the truth your had would spin and you might have to admit you've been duped,
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 1 month ago
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Don't know how to break this to you, but society does need government control. Government is in place to look out for everybody's best interests. Less government control means more crooks and snake oil salesmen.
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BETTYANNE1 year, 1 month ago
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AND JUST WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT THE MEDIA HAS NOT TALKED ABOUT???NOT A THING...JUST WHAT I THOUGHT....PALIN IS THE ONE THE MEDIA HAS SKIPPED OVER....AND DRAGGING HER HANDICAPPED CHILD AROUND TO GET VOTES IS A DISGRACE...SHE HAS NO MORALS
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suherr1 year, 1 month ago
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what is really sad is how many people played into his philosophy to find victims and villify, what they have done to this woman and her family is immoral, thee is nothing about the attacks on her that are civil, it should be an embarrasment to this country for all those looking on who dream of living in a free society what this free society has lowered itself and become, you see the liberal attitudes in everything, the entertainment world pushed the limit and each time they got away with it they pushed it further, children have to be monitored in their own living room on what once were family channels, the music and entertainment world want to be over the top with the sensationalizing their every display, the vulgar pornographic and violent behavior has given children a very brazen view of the world so young, the media has lost ethics to editorials passing them off as front page news,you have to aske first who owns the news organization I am viewing, who wrote the article, and what is their motivation, so much reporting has the omission of the entire news story selecting and absolutely distorting the facts, to false reports, that have no basis in fact, our children hear our supposed leaders call the #1 leader of our country a terrorist a liar, a murderer, no respect, so they see disrespect at every level so seeming it's ok to confront authority over differences of opinion, no debate just hateful disagreements, what the heck has happened, now we have an election that has been anything but civil, and what the liberal media has done for a fair and free election is just an embarrasment, the liberal attitudes have turned having a difference in values into battlefield of hate talk, the conservatives and the moderates have to feel offended by such a display
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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"the #1 leader of our country a terrorist a liar, a murderer, no respect,",
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Yea you got that right and this leader of this country and his administration has bankrupted the world.......how long will you be able to keep the roof over your families head, food on the table, heat this winter, and your job?
BTW, I want to thank GWB for sending Wall Street to it's knees an giving me such a wonderful time with my shopping spree. Yes that's right, I did the American thing and went out shopping, only it was on Wall Street and did I ever get some great deals!! I'll be shopping for weeks!!!!! -
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Tangent0011 year, 1 month ago
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"By the way did he ever produce his legal birth certificate?" Yep.
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http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_th...
As for being a Socialist? Sure, some of is policies are socialistic, particularly around healthcare. Frankly, I'd prefer my taxes go toward taking care of those who are in need, instead of the hyper-wealthy robber barons.
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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Careful, don't feed the trolls. suhfrr, scottinwny, pettefft, rrohrbackd and psimon2251 are about the 20th through the 25th posters I've seen that have no props, no submissions, no profile, no history at all on propeller. They come, they submit stupid slanders, intending just to make people angry, and then they disappear.
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Is there anything propeller can do about these fools (or this one fool for all I know)? I'll take aniokly or automan or sortofcute anyday compared to these mindless, unidentified individual(s) who appear, disappear and then possibly reappear under a different name the next day.-
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
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Ratskii asks: Is there anything propeller can do about these fools
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Good question.
i am guessing the answer is no.
They aren't effectual, anyway; they just paste a lump of words and move on.
And most of them will evaporate after the election .
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pjtm1 year, 1 month ago
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I am a McCain supporter and I'm proud of that fact. If Sen. Obama is elected I wish him well. I just hope he shares Oprah's wealth with me! In fact he can share all of Hollywood's wealth with the entire state Louisiana. By the way the most corrupt Governor is not Governor Palin. It is Governor Edwin Edwards (D) of Louisiana. If I could fire my former brother-in-law I would do it in a minute. Maybe he's a loser! Conservatives out there, if McCain loses...remember President Obama will share the wealth with us, including his own...
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twoy00pers1 year, 1 month ago
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funny the media keeps pushing this untrue poll thing. Are you gonna elect the next leader of the once "free" world someone who's qualification is 143 days as a Congressman? Are you going to elect someone who is dead set on turning the USA into a socialist country????
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VocalOp1 year, 1 month ago
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Apparently we are. You still going to continue to find an excuse to not do the best thing for America (pride does come b'fore the fall, you know?)? Every once in a while, God likes to surprise us. Obama/Biden 2008. Time to see intelligence for what it is. Toodles!
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forrestoo1 year, 1 month ago
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This election will certainly go down in history, it will provide a measure of the level of polarization in this country, of race, socialism, liberals and conservatives.
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Obama should be a preacher, he has that unique ability to tell folks what they want to hear, when they need to here it. Check out the definition of change, when Obama preaches change, does he mean socialism check that definition out also.
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bill-smith1 year, 1 month ago
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Heck, everyone knows why the McCain/Palin ticket is slipping in the polls. All they want to do is attack Sen. Obama's character and ignore the real issues that most Americans are concerned about. Sure, implying that Sen. Obama a terrorist or a secret Muslim plays well to the base - just ask the numerous people who show up to root on Gov. Palin - but it doesn't address the real concerns of the majority of Americans.
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McCain/Palin have hung their hat on an issue that most Americans believe is silly and out of touch with reality. Obama/Biden on the other hand is focused on real issues and looking forward to the challenges that we as a country will be facing in the next several years. It's just too bad that McCain/Palin supporters won't hold their candidates to the same high standards that the Obama/Biden supporters hold their candidates to. -
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
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I guess we now have a solid measure on how far you can "Aw shucks" yourself forward in American Politics. Too many quotes like, "All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008
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Harbeas1 year, 1 month ago
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I think all these polls should be eliminated. They tend to sway the less intelligent voters when it comes to election time. I mean just because a person is ahead in the poll doesn't mean you should vote for them. Unfortunately many poeople do just that.
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hollywoodbig1 year, 1 month ago
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My two friends changed their votes to Obama soon after the Palin selection. Their take is that McCain has a good chance of physically opting out of the Presidency, if elected, and Obama has a chance of being assassinated by the right-wing wingnuts. That made, in their minds, the Vice-presidential candidates more important. Congressman Lewis's remarks don't seem out of line as many have felt this undercurrent (heehaw racist anger)way before he spoke.
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dunkirk1 year, 1 month ago
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There are three elements carrying Obama in these polls. First, the economy is the critical issue in the minds of these voters, and McCain has shown no competency in this area at all. Second, McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin is in total free fall. Palin has negative approval rating in every state, and her approval rating ranges from 37%-39%. None of the people surveyed in these polls believe that she is qualified to be vice president. Only, 41%-44% of respondents believe that she is qualified to be VP. In contrast, Joe Biden’s unfavorable rating ranges from 22%-27%, and 76%-81% of those asked believe that he is qualified to be vice president.
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INYOFACEBEATCH1 year, 1 month ago
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Sarah Palin could not answer the simplest question of "What newspapers do you read?" Then she had the audacity to claim the the question was viciously posed to her by Katie Couric as a form of "gotcha journalism". This is the best choice McCain could make for a running mate?
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doncribb1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't think anyone can make sense to conservatives that are supporting John McCain! After their support for George W. Bush, where they all made one of the worst political decisions of their lives! It defies all reason to support another Republican that has a history of supporting George W. Bush's failed policies! What are they thinking? It's time to think for one's self, not according to political party! A screwdriver does not fix a flat tire?
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I ask, is there ONE THING that George W. Bush and his administration handled adequately or did right? Other than managing, legally or illegally, to get themselves into office in the first place?
George W. Bush has been and will be remembered as one of the greatest disasters in American political history! He and Rove and Cheney have managed to turn a greatcountry against itself! It's become a red vs blue civil war! What a contribution!
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coymoy1 year, 1 month ago
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I am so amazed when I hear one of the George Bush prophets. Please "GO BACK AND REMEMBER 9/11. " Americans had enough of being the impotent joke of the world. If George Bush hadn't responded in a forceful way ... Americans would have drummed him out of office. The polls were clear ... the people were heard . You have the option of changing yor mind ...George Bush doesn't.. George Bush followed the course--to victory. The financial crisis is no more George Bush's fault than a rainy day. I believe history will be kind to George Bush .
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most_reasonable1 year, 1 month ago
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"The financial crisis is no more George Bush's fault than a rainy day. I believe history will be kind to George Bush ."
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I think that McCain should come out and say so publicly.
Tonight will be a good opportunity to tell America how great GWB was as president and why he generally supported his financial programs.
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cleare1 year, 1 month ago
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then you don't know much about history.
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when the planes crashed into the WTC on 9/11...bush mis-spent many critical minutes looking like a doofus in that elementary school classroom. if it had been a nuclear attack, he would have completely missed the window of opportunity to respond.
furthermore, bush's "forceful" response failed to capture bin laden and involved us in yet another god awful mess of a war that has not served the interests of our country and for which there is now, no option for "victory".
and while bush can't be held entirely to blame for the economic crisis, he is the latest and worst of republican presidents who are fully responsible due to the unrelenting drive to deregulation. what they forgot is that those regulations were in place for good reason...as a check on human greed.
history is written by the winners, not by losers like the shrub.
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gadfly14871 year, 1 month ago
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The question is strength of leadership! You have a guy who finished at the top of his class at Harvard being compared to a guy who finished at the bottom of his class at another school. Who has proven that they can get the job done and who is full of rhetoric? Easy choice! Each week I am appalled that one candidate mimicks the other candidate. Why can't the bottomfeeder ever come up with any original ideas. Maybe because he doesn't have any? I have watched one candidate consistently take the high road and often the philosophically sound approach while the other candidate proves to be erratic, unsure and willing to please the latest whim of the popular polls. Only one candidate has proven throughout the election to be cool as a cucumber under pressure while the other mounts one personal attack after another. One begins to wonder whether anything is sacred anymore. One candidate is running the campaign of a 'winner' while the other declared himself a 'loser' from the very beginning. There is only one leader in this race and it's not the 'one' whose pointing fingers.
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bssmll51 year, 1 month ago
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DeauxNut...Obviously, you people are hard of hearing, or just in denial. We too saw and heard Charles Barkley on Larry
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King Live, last night..Barkley did say that RACE HAS A LOT TO
DO WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, but he hoped that was not so. Whatever happened to LOVE THOU NEIGHBOR AS THOU SELF, the
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Naej1 year, 1 month ago
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I am not a racist nor do I believe this is a racist election going on! I DO NOT want Obama as my president not because of the color of his skin but he does not worship our God and it is well known his Islam religion is a very cruel group of people. If you want to have freedom of religion and freedom of speech then please do not vote for him! Think long and hard for you just may get who you vote for! I do not want to even think of being beheaded but this is what the Islams do if you do not worship their God. I do not trust a man who will not salute our American flag nor wear an American pin because he may offend some other country. Let those people stay in their country and let us stay in ours and defend all that our forefathers have faught for!
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
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Hi Naej!
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I see you are new here!
Welcome to Propeller!
You came at the right time;
the exact 2 issues buried in your long and strangely familiar paragraph:
- obama being a muslim
- obama not saluting the flag
were not just disproved here recently;
they were debunked, deboned, defragmented and delimitted as lies .
In point of fact:
Obama is a Christian.
Obama salutes the flag.
Anyone saying diferent, gets their choice in the afterlife:
1) the place in hell for people who believe whatever they feel like believing;
2) the place in hell for people who say whatever they feel like saying.
We like to think that Propeller, is the 3rd option .
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liberated1 year, 1 month ago
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The Democrats are blindly accepting whatever Barry Soetoro says. None of his files have been released. His birth certificate is said to be a doctored version of his sister's. His relatives in Kenya say he is a natural born citizen of Mombasa, Kenya. His mother was too far along in her pregnancy to fly back to Hawaii and was born in Kenya, the live birth registration was done days later in Hawaii. His certified copy of original birth has not been released. His college records have not been released for: Occidental College and Columbia College, Columbia Thesis not released and supposedly lost, Harvard records not released, Harvard Law Review articles are generally not available, Medical records not released, Illinois State Senate schedule not available. No major accomplishment as a lawyer or senator. Barry Soetoro visited Pakistan in 1981 probably using his Indonesian passport, since US citizens were restricted during that time. Obama's registration in Indonesia under the name "Barry Soetoro" also raises questions as to whether he adopted that name in the U.S. at any time. According to Illinois state filings, when Obama registered as an attorney in 1991, under the name Barack Obama, he stated he did not have any former names.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
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Hi Naej!
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I see you are new here!
Welcome to Propeller!
Gosh, you said a lot in one breath!
That was a lot of typing! Or at least, pasting!
Lets just wander thru some of it.
His birth certificate is said to be a doctored version of his sister's.
The state department says it is the real thing.
Those who say it isn't, did they have funny screennames like 'dieObamadie' ?
And about your criticism of Democrats blindly accepting whatever Obama says, - you don't want to make the same mistake, do you?
His relatives in Kenya say he is a natural born citizen of Mombasa, Kenya .
Well, shucks. Hawaii and his american relatives, and the us government, say he was born in Hawaii.
It will shock and dismay you, to learn you were repeating someone's lie. Ouch.
If you want to hear about Obama's college years there are professors who remember him;
google it but avoid the stuff from anonymous screen people with names like 'dieObamadie'.
he stated he did not have any former names
Barrack Hussein Obama comes from a big mixed family, and has used his biological father's name, his step-fathers last name, and 'Barry' instead of Barack.
No sinister intent was revealed if he did not check the little box saying, 'Do I have an alternate id, screen-puppet or secret identity".
Hey, and his economic plan rocks!
I thought you would want to hear that last part;
you seem a little lost in the Obama-scary-Obama trivia.
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