Obama Squashes The GOP ACORN Smear »
Posted By capj71 8 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsDemocratic presidential candidate Barack Obama took a break from preparing for the third presidential debate to explain that he is not involved with the voter registration group ACORN, “We've got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don't need ACORN's help."
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hyperbola8 months, 3 weeks ago
Actually the Ayers smear also shows the degeneration of the GOP since they were taken over by the Zioncons around McCain and the "christian" zionists around Palin. Imagine having to smear a foundation run by a conservative republican to try to find smears of Obama!
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Fact-Checking the Ayers Allegations: So Wrong, It’s “Pants on Fire” Wrong
For most of the election, Sen. John McCain ’s campaign has been somewhat subtle about trying to tie Sen. Barack Obama to the former ‘60s radical William Ayers. No longer. A 90-second Web ad released Oct. 8, 2008, features sinister music, side-by-side photographs of Obama and Ayers, and a series of dubious allegations about their past connections, including this one: “Ayers and Obama ran a radical education foundation together.”
... We’ll look at whether the foundation was radical. But first we have to grapple with whether Obama and Ayers ran it. Ayers “was never on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge,” and he “never made a decision programmatically or had a vote,” Rolling said.
“He (Ayers) was at board meetings — which, by the way, were open — as a guest,” Rolling said. “That is not anything near Bill Ayers and Barack Obama running the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.”.....
Now, was the foundation radical?
Annenberg was a lifelong Republican and former ambassador to the United Kingdom under President Richard Nixon. His widow, Leonore, has endorsed McCain. Kurtz might just as plausibly have accused Obama and the foundation of “translating Annenberg’s conservatism into practice.”
Among the other board members who served with Obama were: Stanley Ikenberry, former president of the University of Illinois; Arnold Weber, former president of Northwestern University and assistant secretary of labor in the Nixon administration; Scott Smith, then publisher of the Chicago Tribune; venture capitalist Edward Bottum; John McCarter, president of the Field Museum; Patricia Albjerg Graham, former dean of the Harvard University Graduate School of Journalism, and a host of other mainstream folks. -
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mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago
I think Obama realizes that most voters have no idea who or what ACORN is and that he could afford to wait (and spend quality time instead preparing to answer voters' questions about things that are actually important to them. Cons, meanwhile, have continued to look like desperate rabid weasels frothing at the mouth and digging in place like panic stricken gohpers on crack. Like rats, scampering to find the nearest hole in the ground, basically, cons are in a holding pattern of fear and smear. As cons continue to roll around in their own excrement, looking like lethargic farm animals in heat, McCain's campaign continues to wither and die on the vine. It's really a sad, ugly, and shameful picture. ;-(
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tschrnywolf8 months, 3 weeks ago
I DO TOO. I SAW HERE THE PHOTO OF MCCAIN HAPPILY INSIDE ACORN AT A CONFERENCE,, APPARANTELY LISTENING TO A SPEAKER.
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HOW COMO OBAMA IS CONDEMNED BUT NOTHING IS DEBATED ABOUT MCCAIN'S ATTENDANCY, WAS MCBUCH JUST INVITED, OR WAS HE A MEMBER?
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pianoslyv8 months, 3 weeks ago
Follow the money. 800k is more than the "bailout bill" so many are all upset about, and that's the amount of Obama's monetary connection to A.C.O.R.N. Innocent (or, even, not guilty), he is not. Regardless of who you're voting for or which party you lean toward, not looking at all sides of an issue helps nothing.
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A.C.O.R.N. should be disbanded. Obviously, they cannot control their associates, and elections are too important to have unreliable groups involved with their voter recruitment. If they're that unreliable there, why would they be reliable elsewhere? Why would an attorney not say and do something about that - and why would a speaker necessarily know anything about it?
Especially as this fraud happened in swing states, this should be investigated carefully. It should be investigated, in any case.-
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djn3nunez38 months, 3 weeks ago
It is funny how Republicans fail to mention that McCain spoke in front of the group in 2006, and actually has a more recent personal connection than Obama does. I don’t believe that there is any kind of real scandal here. This is another sad attempt by the Republicans to try to stop Obama.
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Lurch8 months, 3 weeks ago
Unreliable groups like Katherine Harris, the Republican led US Supreme Activist Court, Diebold, etc.
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Yes, none of them should be allowed to interfere and disenfranchise any more voters or to conduct vote fraud any longer.
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hyperbola8 months, 3 weeks ago
You should broaden your sources of information. At present you are easy to dupe by oligarchs who pay propaganda shills to try to keep you dumb, poor and docile.
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GOP's ACORN 'Voter Fraud' Lie Ramped Up
I had been intending to post an answer to the ongoing -- and quickly escalating -- ACORN smears being issued of late by the GOP enemies of democracy out there, who have decided to intensify their unsubstantiated assaults on the community organization, given its effectiveness at registering millions of low-income voters across the country....
... Doubtless you've heard the smears by now: that ACORN is committing "voter fraud", on behalf of Obama, in hotly contested swing states. The media has been all too happy to pass that garbage on, without bothering to note that, in fact, the organization attempts to authenticate every registration form their workers submit and by law they must turn in every form to election officials -- even if they find a registration to be fraudulent when they call the phone number submitted on the form, or if the forms are otherwise suspect or incomplete.
They do so, and they flag all questionable registration forms as being suspect before turning them in to officials.
The thanks they receive for registering millions of new voters that nobody else has bothered with, and for notifying officials about questionable registration forms when they turn them in, is that the GOP's democracy-hating propagandists and election officials run to the media shouting, "ACORN is committing voter fraud! They've turned in hundreds and thousands of fraudulent registration forms!"
Of course they have. They have to by law. But what those GOP despots of democracy always forget to mention is that it was ACORN themselves who notified officials about the potentially fraudulent and/or incomplete forms in the first place!
For the quickest idea of how the GOP ACORN scam has run amok, dutifully forwarded by the often clueless corporate media, and then the rightwing wankers in the blogosphere who are only to happy to help enable those who are lying to them -- by putting truth, democracy and country second -- take a look at the following game of rightwing "blogosphere telephone" concerning a recent news conference called by a Lake County, Indiana GOP chair in order to sound the phony alarm about "fraud" committed by ACORN....
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jordan118 months, 3 weeks ago
Follow the money. 800k is more than the "bailout bill" so many are all upset about, and that's the amount of Obama's monetary connection to A.C.O.R.N. Innocent >>>>>
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Uh, hello. 800K is under a million dollars (put another way, 800 thousand dollars.) . The bailout is 700 BILLION dollars. So maybe you could explain what you're saying about "more." -
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Tangent0018 months, 3 weeks ago
"800k is more than the "bailout bill"..."
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Since when is $800,000 more than $700,000,000,000?
What these smear articles always fail to mention is that is has been ACORN itself that has discovered these irregularities. Those responsible have been fired and, where appropriate, brought up on charges. -
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tchef8 months, 3 weeks ago
800K is more than the current bailout? 800k = 800 thousand, the bailout was 700 BILLION that's a whole lot more than 800 THOUSAND. I think you had better look closer at the facts and get them right before you start spewing.
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somecommonsense8 months, 3 weeks ago
There is no there...there pianoslyv...ACORN shouldn't be disbanded, you should first find out who they are and all the good they have done over the past 38 years, It's why John McCain said when referring to ACORN, that they were "...the reason why America is a great country" You guys sound really ignorant because you just jump from one issue to the next much like the McCain campaign because you can't tell anyone why McCain is the best candidate, you can only try to assassinate the other guy's character...that's why McCain will lose and lose badly, he will, as will his supporters and campaign staff for causing a huge shift in American politics where dems will control all 3 branches of Gov't.
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tschrnywolf8 months, 3 weeks ago
SENATOR OBAMA EXPLAINED EXACTLY HE WORKED AS A LAWYER THERE FOR ONE TIME.
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LAWYER FEES CAN BE VERY HIGH. SO THAT WAS IN THE PAST. OBAMA LEFT AND IS NOW A MODERATE.
INSTEAD THE RECENT PHOTO OF MCBUSH ATTENDING AN A.C.O. R. N. CONFERENCE IS VERY WORRISOME. AT LEAST OBAMA IS A LIBERAL, INSTEAD A REPUBLICAN LIKE MCCAIN IS ANATHEMA IN ACORN.
THE MCCAIN NEED FOR FUNDS HAS BEEN REPORTED SEVERAL TIMES....SO?
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leftylemn8 months, 3 weeks ago
HOW DID HE SQUASH IT ??? YOU CAN'T UNRING THE BELL. HE GAVE THEM $800,000.00 , HE TRAINED THEM IN THEIR RADICAL WAYS , HE DEFENDED THEM IN A COURT OF LAW , HE PRAISES THEM IN NUMEROUS GATHERINGS...AND HE IS ACORN....OH WAIT...IT'S NOT THE ACORN I KNEW 20 YEARS AGO...JUST LIKE WRIGHT, JUST LIKE REZKO ,ETC. ETC. ETC.
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jordan118 months, 3 weeks ago
What "radical ways?" You think voter registration is radical? ACORN is made up of groups of US citizens. You have something against US citizens? And of course he defended them. He won the case. You have a problem that Obama helped them stop voter suppression activities ? JC, even the justice department aided with that case! Stop being used as a dupe for the propagandists.
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Tangent0018 months, 3 weeks ago
ACORN has been around for some 38 years. Remember the Justice Department firings? Those were because prosecutors had been ordered to dig up something prosecutable on ACORN. When they failed to do so, 'adios amigo'!
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ACORN registers both Democrats and Republicans. Since they focus on low-income areas, they tend to get more Democrat registrants than Republican. THAT is why the Republicans are continually on their tail -
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jordan118 months, 3 weeks ago
No you can't 'unring the bell' when idiots take up rumor and lies and innuendo. On the other hand, you don't give consent to their ranting through your silence.
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somecommonsense8 months, 3 weeks ago
He defeneded ACORN along with the Justice depatment to force Iliionois to obey the motor voter law so when people are getting their drivers' license, they can register to vote...that was a good thing knucklehead! You have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about...I think this site is hysterical! LOL!
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rags14888 months, 3 weeks ago
What do we care if Obama likes squash? The real story here is that He worked for and has now funded Acorn.....hmmmmm sounds like a bunch of nuts....to the tune of over $800,000.00. At any rate Obama has some explaining to do. Or will he just shrug it off like, Ayers, Rev. Wright, etc.............?
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mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago
Can he shrug it off like Palin has shrugged off being found guilty of abusing power to get someone fired? Will cons allow this? ;-P
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rags14888 months, 3 weeks ago
What do we care if Obama likes squash? The real story here is that He worked for and has now funded Acorn.....hmmmmm sounds like a bunch of nuts....to the tune of over $800,000.00. At any rate Obama has some explaining to do. Or will he just shrug it off like, Ayers, Rev. Wright, etc.............?
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hyperbola8 months, 3 weeks ago
The behavior is that characteristic of extremist sects. Any information that contradicts the "beliefs" of the sect must be lies. Anyone who produces such information must be a radical anti-american. We have to improve education in America enormously and quickly or we are in deep trouble.
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"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people" - John Adams - Second President - 1797 - 1801
Americas Political Cannibalism
It is no longer our economy but our democracy that is in peril. It was the economic meltdown of Yugoslavia that gave us Slobodan Milosevic. It was the collapse of the Weimar Republic that vomited up Adolf Hitler. And it was the breakdown in czarist Russia that opened the door for Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks. Financial collapses lead to political extremism. The rage bubbling up from our impoverished and disenfranchised working class, glimpsed at John McCain rallies, presages a looming and dangerous right-wing backlash.
As the public begins to grasp the depth of the betrayal and abuse by our ruling class, as the Democratic and Republican parties are exposed as craven tools of our corporate state, as savings accounts, college funds and retirement plans become worthless, as unemployment skyrockets and as home values go up in smoke, we must prepare for the political resurgence of a reinvigorated radical Christian right. The engine of this mass movement—as is true for all radical movements—is personal and economic despair. And despair, in an age of increasing shortages, poverty and hopelessness, will be one of our few surplus commodities.
Karl Polanyi in his book “The Great Transformation,” written in 1944, laid out the devastating consequences—the depressions, wars and totalitarianism—that grow out of a so-called self-regulated free market. He grasped that “fascism, like socialism, was rooted in a market society that refused to function.” He warned that a financial system always devolved, without heavy government control, into a Mafia capitalism—and a Mafia political system—which is a good description of the American government under George W. Bush. Polanyi wrote that a self-regulating market, the kind bequeathed to us since Ronald Reagan, turned human beings and the natural environment into commodities, a situation that ensures the destruction of both society and the natural environment. He decried the free market’s belief that nature and human beings are objects whose worth is determined by the market. He reminded us that a society that no longer recognizes that nature and human life have a sacred dimension, an intrinsic worth beyond monetary value, ultimately commits collective suicide. Such societies cannibalize themselves until they die. Speculative excesses and growing inequality, he wrote, always destroy the foundation for a continued prosperity. .... -
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the_heat8 months, 3 weeks ago
Hahaha, it is hilarious! Barry says he first represented ACORN 13 years ago and the story is over! He really squashed that one! I guess he hasn't been associated with them since then, no $800k, and he really didn't recently threaten banks with lawsuits from ACORN if they didn't give out sub prime loans! Whew! Good thing he squashed that one. M.O. saved, close one!
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Poulenc8 months, 3 weeks ago
Isn't SOMEONE going to suggest that ACORN is Muslim-funded, and that its director is Rev. Wright?
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That Bill Ayers was in charge of the bomb squad division? That there WAS a bomb squad division, in the ranks of which Obama started his political career?
Of course, the main question is, who IS Barrack Obama?
REALLY.
I mean, he doesn't look like me....
PS, you can (try to) register a zillion times, but you can vote only once, assuming you aren't an advanced identity misrepresentor. (And those who are will scarcely require ACORN's "help," right?)-
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mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago
I think cons realize they have pretty much milked this ACORN "scandal." It's about time for someone on the right to accuse Michelle Obama of calling someone "whitey" again. ;-0 The question is, will Ann Coulter call Sarah Palin a "witch" and accuse her of "enjoying" the publicity she gets wh*ring baby Taz or Trick or whoever out to the media. ;-P
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TheSource8 months, 3 weeks ago
Obama may say he doesn't need ACORN to win. Lets see if he will give the votes back in his margin is small and he gets the majority of fake vots. Election stealing has been the norm for decades. ACORN and Obama have been doing this since he got
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elected to State Senator. How do you think he was able to get
his oponents to drop out if not with ACORN's help. ACORN knew
exactly where to look and did his dirty work. They still are.
That is not squashing. It is lying with the help of the media.-
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jordan118 months, 3 weeks ago
ACORN is voters. There are groups of citizens across this country trying to bring the disenfranchised (poor) into our process of government so they will have a voice. Some of the people they've hired to get registrations faked the names to get more in their paychecks. They're paid by the number of registrations they turn in. ACORN has turned in many fraudulent registrations, & named the people who committed voter registration fraud. NOTHING can be done about the few who cheat their bosses. And you don't stop registering people because some won't be honest! There has been no proof, no evidence, that those fake registrations resulted in anyone trying to vote with those names in the past. This whole fiasco is ridiculous. Do you really think if the 13 year old showed up to vote they'd let him? Don't be daft. THINK!
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Tangent0018 months, 3 weeks ago
It would seem, if their candidate is soooooo good, they would want to register every single person they could!
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jordan118 months, 3 weeks ago
THERE IS NO VOTER FRAUD! NO BALLOTS WERE CAST! There have been a FEW instances of REGISTRATION fraud; few in comparison to those who were registered legally. It's just dumb registration takers who padded the numbers of people they registered to get more pay! So knock off the nonsense about 'voter fraud.' It is NOT true!
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mdr988 months, 3 weeks ago
Obama says that he wants to clean up Washington - that means its time to clean up his act also - him and his party have been in control of the senate since 2006 running our economy in the ground - Obama stole my vote in Missouri - he wasn't even on my ballot, only Hillary, who I voted for (and I live in a predominately black district) and he still supposedly won - now how did that happen legally??? I'm tired of cheaters, so this time I will vote Republican, since I don't have to worry about voting against Bush any more. I can't stand lying parties - and this time it's the democrats!!
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tchef8 months, 3 weeks ago
The Republicans who have been in control for 6 years of the last 8 are the ones who have run this country into the ground.
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donald518 months, 3 weeks ago
Repug obstructionist senators have backed Dumya's vetos on stem cell research and 10 millon poor kids geting some health coverage... are just examples of the problem for the last 2 years!
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Pelosi has over 70 bills her house has passed (go to her website) just sitting awaiting Senate consideration that won't come because of the senate repugs ( 49 of 51 votes) and the threat of a Bush veto. For example, one of her first is to revoke the Medicare Drug Prescription bill mandate that senior drugs con't be negotiated. But the VA negotiates and pays 58% less (per Wikipedia).
Then if a bill gets through , Dumya puts a signing statement on it for the government agencies to ignore! Dumya has said Business works best when left alone!
Forget that it was the repug Homeland security bill that also dropped sanctions against overseas bank accounts? It wans't called the "Do Nothing" Congress for no reason besides Hastert going to a 4 day work week!
Only a pure idiot could blame the dems for this!
The repugs gave us the Great Depression too, and Dumya has only given us continuous failure! Look at the debt only added to by repugs from reagan to Bush one to Bush two! Torture and Preemptive war for which we hanged people for after WW2. Eavesdropping on Americans! Gitmo and Abu Graib! Katrina debacle! 2 unending wars, one based on lies! 14 of 20 most corupt congressmen are repugs! Only repugs have tried to impeach (johnson and Bill)! Only repug administrations have convictions at the cabinet level - 3 times for repugs (watergate, Iran Contra & plamegate). There is a terrrorist party in Americas - the repugs who should be declared so and banned!
Both barak and McBush agree! How can McBush's claims of greed not be viable without the derugulation that Barak and Bush both claim?
Only an idiot could blame the dems, I say again!
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mdr988 months, 3 weeks ago
Obama says that he wants to clean up Washington - that means its time to clean up his act also - him and his party have been in control of the senate since 2006 running our economy in the ground - Obama stole my vote in Missouri - he wasn't even on my ballot, only Hillary, who I voted for (and I live in a predominately black district) and he still supposedly won - now how did that happen legally??? I'm tired of cheaters, so this time I will vote Republican, since I don't have to worry about voting against Bush any more. I can't stand lying parties - and this time it's the democrats!!
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4thchance8 months, 3 weeks ago
Us Republicans think the same as you, Democrats are scum!
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In fact, I say it's time for a civil war. Both parties truly despise one another. It's time for one party to rule over the other. That's why I'm voting for Obama. I think it's time America has a ruler, much like Cuba has/had Fidel Castro. Obama is all set to be the ruler for the next 40 or so years....A one party government is what Obama has in mind. Vote Obama 2008-2048!!!!-
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jordan118 months, 3 weeks ago
He doesn't need to 'clean up' anything. Just because you have a vivid imagination and buy in to all the lies, doesn't make Obama a bad person. It makes the people spewing the filth morons.
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buddhaed8 months, 3 weeks ago
Republican operatives, under subliminal auspices of the authors of Operation Chaos, posed as ACORN workers and turned in registrations that have been found to be questionabe. Their good work will now mean that Mickey Mouse can probably vote, and, that guy that registered 78 times can now sway the whole election with his block of votes...NOT.
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amazed8 months, 3 weeks ago
My daughter registered to vote today (she just recently turned 18). She went to the city hall with her passport as proof of citizenship -- after all, these are all hateful lies about ACORN. No one is trying to get unqualified people registered -- why would they? And besides, it would be caught when she went to vote.
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Do you know what she actually had to show in order to register to vote? Her driver's license. That's it. No birth certificate, no passport, no proof of citizenship whatever. She did have to swear (but not on a bible) that she was eligible to vote.
Now, I'm told, that when we go to vote, we will no longer have to show ID?
So, exactly WHEN would they catch up with these people who registered that weren't really eligible to if there are any (of course there's none -- wink, wink)-
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buddhaed8 months, 3 weeks ago
When you go and vote, an election judge will give you a ballot after you have given your name and address. If there are 78 ballots with your name and address and its real early, you can then, vote early and often.
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Tcaros8 months, 3 weeks ago
Because CONS believe EVERYTHING... EVERYTHING that republican administrations put out. They are so brainwashed by the Fox Noise channel that they don't even question anthing.
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For example: Hannity & Colmes. Some dude with mental illness coms on their and alleges Barrack Obama is a muslim. CONS believet the crap. They even say "Thank you Fox for telling me the truth." Meanwhile, Rupert Murdoch is slapping his knee laughing. They're saying what a gullable bunch of morons we have out there.
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alnglenda328 months, 3 weeks ago
Obama didn't squash nothing. He did what he always does, what he has always done. Deny. He is in it up to 800,000 dollars worth. And he is still losing. These ppl that believe him is the same type that believe their cheating spouse when they walk in with lipstick on their collar and the spouse says it has been there before we got married. It don't matter how many times it has been to the cleaners. The man is such a liar. The writing is on the wall ppl and nobody has that much shaddy dealing linked to their name and still stay innocent.
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jordan118 months, 3 weeks ago
I don't care if he gave ACORN a trillion $$$. What is your problem with voter registration? You act like it's against the law. Hello! Anyone home?
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Om8 months, 3 weeks ago
Doesn't matter. It's a non-issue. Obama vs McCain in the debates: Obama 3, McCain 0.
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