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Posted By y_soitenly 1 year, 1 month ago in News

Is Barack Obama a Natural Born Citizen?

Illuminati Films has produced a 10 minute video in which Phil J. Berg is interviewed. Mr. Berg lays out his case in Berg v. Obama, and explains why it is important for the case to be resolved quickly. In his argumentation, Mr. Berg points out that Senator Obama could settle the lawsuit immediately by producing the proper documents to prove Obama is a natural-born citizen as required by our constitution.

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    y_soitenly1 year, 1 month ago

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    http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/con...

    (Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 08/21/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA, filed a lawsuit in Federal Court today, Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States.
    Berg filed this suit for the best interests of the Democratic Party and the citizens of the United States.

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      Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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      More ridiculous fear and smear against Obama.

      The State Department says he's a US Citizen. Last time I checked, they're they authority on that. It's amazing that so many conspiracy theorists make this ridiculous claim, yet say the government still needs to rule (again) on his citizenship. He's already a US Senator. You think he hasn't been vetted before getting the security clearance he's been given?

      Morons. Every one of you.

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        DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago

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        Like digging up dirt on Palin and "Joe", etc. ad nauseum. But I DO agree .. morons in both camps.

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          NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago

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          if Michelle Obama was, at one time, the member of a secessionist party, how livid would the cons be? they would be screaming at the top of their lungs how Michelle Obama, and by extension Barack Obama, was unAmerican, a traitior, should be put on trial for treason, etc.

          but when it comes to Palin, being a secessionist is a.o.k.

          and this whole birth certificate thing was cleared up months ago by both the state dept and the hawaii dept of health.

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          lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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          DeauxNut said
          "Like digging up dirt on Palin and "Joe", etc. ad nauseum. But I DO agree .. morons in both camps."
          When someone makes an attack on you the first thing you do is discredit it by showing proof that it's false.
          http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_th...

          Then you show that the person that is doing the attacking is a hypocrite because they have done acts just as damaging as they accuse the other party of being guilty of.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmYqRfp6-x8=related

          It's what is called politics especially when the opponent doesn't want to talk about the issues. As for good ol' Joe, that was the press and no one else and the last time I looked they still have the freedom to investigate anything they like.

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        JaimieM1 year, 1 month ago

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        There is no doubt that Obama fails to meet the constitutional rule for running for President. The only uncertainty is whether the democrat dominated courts will enforce the constitution, or flush American democracy.

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          Justice4All1 year, 1 month ago

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          There is no doubt that he does meet the rule. Get a life.

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            Bacalao1 year, 1 month ago

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            Lemme guess, Because he was born in the sandwich islands (Hawaii) He is not an American. And yet Ol' John boy who was born in Panama (which is not a state) is.

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              mivan41 year, 1 month ago

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              watch the video and you wont have to guess wrong anymore

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                lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                If I make a video that shows you were born in Japan, does that make it a fact? Anyone can make a video about anything they want. If you don't believe that, watch this one.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmYqRfp6-x8=related

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                  mivan41 year, 1 month ago

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                  Bacatao was guessing what this was about and he guessed wrong - had nothing to do with whether the story is true or not. Besides these guys did a couple of other videos that did turn out true which gives them some credibility. Besides the law suit has been around for months and has been reported on by several differing outlets. This is the first video that I know of though.

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                    Bacalao1 year, 1 month ago

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                    No, I know what this is about. I was just pointing out that Obama was born in a American state, And McCain was born in a foreign nation. I personally believe they are both as American as I am.
                    BTW the name is BacaLao it mean salted Codfish in the Cuban dialect of Spanish.

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              ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago

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              Would that be the Democratic Dominated federal courts that have been filled with Democrats by the last 30 years of Republican rule or the Supreme Court with 7 of the 9 members Republican Appointees and 2 Democratic appointees?

              Or are we talking about the Bush Injustice Department where Judge Mukasey is doing such a bang-up job of continuing the politicization of Justice so capably begun by Alberto Gonzales?

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              NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago

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              wow. someone is still trying to push this stupid-as-sh*t idea?

              the Hawaii Dept of Health came out with an official statment in June saying Obama was born in Hawaii, he is an American citizen, and his birth ceritificate is official and legal.

              dam you guys are desperate.

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                HOUSEMD1 year, 1 month ago

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                IF any hawaian hospital has come out and said obama was born in hawawii, that is news to me. the obama people have been vigerously resisting showing the "original" birth certificate..so if you have proof of the fact obama was born in hawaii, SHOW it. while you are at it, have the obama care-takers show us his college records too. there has to be something there too cause they are sooo very protective of them.

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                  NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago

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                  meanwhile...McCain had 1200 pages of medical information about him that he only let a handful of reporters peruse for less than half an hour.

                  and you'fre fine with that? I figured since you're a doctor and all, that you would be rather curious as to why they are obviously trying to hide McCain's medical records from the public.

                  you'd have to admit, as a member of the medical profession, that they must be hiding something, right?

                  and then...

                  “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” Hawaii Department of Health spokesman Janice Okubo, in June 2008 in response to the St. Petersberg Times' email concerning Obama's birth certificate.

                  The Hawaii Department of Health received about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama’s birth certificate (in June), Okubo said.

                  “I guess the big issue that’s being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature,” Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. “Because they scanned the front … you wouldn’t see those things.”

                  Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.

                  http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/20...

                  and there you have it.

                  now...
                  back to McCain's medical records....

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                    Bacalao1 year, 1 month ago

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                    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_th...

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                      lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                      Bacalao
                      I've been posting that also and if anyone really wanted to find out the facts they could Google it. Either too lazy or they know and keep repeating the lie.
                      It seems that every lie they are repeating comes from a book by Corsi that has been debunked by FactCheck.org but these cons keep telling them anyway.

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                        y_soitenly1 year, 1 month ago

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                        Bacalao,

                        factcheck is biased and unreliable.

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                        jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                        Is that you, andy?

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                        Sabretooth1 year, 1 month ago

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                        Yup, looks like panic and desperation are setting in for the rabid right, they cannot argue on issues since they are anti-America so this is all they have...kind of pathetic really.

                        President Obama, has a nice ring, will be great to see an intellectual back in office.

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                          amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago

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                          Castro was the same type of intellectual. He finally admitted he was a Marxist Communist 16 months after he was in office.

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                          Patience1 year, 1 month ago

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                          Really? Umm 10 law suites and counting for him to produce an authentic Certificate of Birth! Not a Forgery like the ones posted on the net so far! Its pathetic also that the three that were posted on the net don't even match each other when looked at closely.

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                            Lurch1 year, 1 month ago

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                            > Really? Umm 10 law suites and counting...

                            incredible how many gullible morons will spend their hard-earned, er wait, these guys are Republicans, let me start over.

                            incredible how many gullible morons will spend other people`s hard-earned tax dollars on something that has already been debunked for years and years. But that is the way of the neocon...

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                              NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago

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                              read my reply above to houseMD.

                              I've included the quotes from the Hawaii Dept of Health for all to see.

                              again: desperate.

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                                Patience1 year, 1 month ago

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                                read houseMD reply above to yours.

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                                  NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago

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                                  um, he replied to my first post but not to my comeback, which is what I wanted you to read. you can read it for yourself. I included the quote in which the hawaii dept of health says Obama's birth certificate is legal.

                                  please pay attention.

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                                    Patience1 year, 1 month ago

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                                    That article does not contain everything that she said.
                                    When i find it again i will post it for you. During her statement at the very end she said something to the effect that there was no way for her to tell for sure beyond a shadow of a doubt.
                                    also take a look at this:
                                    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/20...
                                    They go into fine detail here on this issue.
                                    There is just a wee bit of deference from someone just looking at 2 pieces of paper and saying they look alike compared to the analysis these guys did on the link i just posted. Remember anybody with a PC nowadays can make a pretty accurate copy of a document. At the very least good enough to fool the naked eye.

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                            mark-stevens1 year, 1 month ago

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                            Very few know that besides Obama not being a natural born American, he is a natural born killer!!

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                              mark-stevens1 year, 1 month ago

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                              How come there isn't more bitchin about a mexican woman coming across the border to have a kid so we're stuck paying for for that next 18 years.

                              How about the Al queda caugtht in Iraq that was a U.S citizen. His parents came here to have the kid a and have the U.S. pay the medical bills, stayed a week than went back to Iraq.

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                                GLee1 year, 1 month ago

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                                Great find Curley. Can you believe that adults would vote for this 'guy' Obama?

                                DEFEAT THE CULT...... VOTE McCAIN / PALIN !!

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                                  y_soitenly1 year, 1 month ago

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                                  GLee,

                                  Thanks!
                                  Sooner or later these fools will see the light.
                                  If Obama does make it to the White House, we will be the ones having the last laugh at all the naive Libs that voted for him. Obama & Co. will destroy everything we worked so hard for all our lives. Watch them squirm when he raises our taxes to a new level.

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                                  barackobamaispresident1 year, 1 month ago

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                                  u know wat about ur last comment about our next president it people like u and george bush and that fat **** mccain tat are ******* UP our world not our new president so get ur **** straight before i do

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                                  altnrg1 year, 1 month ago

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                                  Is it possible that this issue was not resolved with formal application for being a candidate?

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                                    y_soitenly1 year, 1 month ago

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                                    Another lawsuit has already been filed. This one takes place in the First Circuit Court in (Honolulu, HI)(October 17, 2008) They are seeking a court order to open Barack Obama’s secret birth records.
                                    http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/18/breaking...

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                                      y_soitenly1 year, 1 month ago

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                                      It seems that everything's a mystery when it comes to Obama's background.

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                                        jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                        Naw, no mystery. Just clowns playing games.

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                                          vor1 year, 1 month ago

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                                          Hardly, there is a great amount of detail if you look. Can you type Curly? Can you read? That could be the issue!

                                          I have seen at least 4 video biographies that were quite extensive and read several more that were also quite detailed. Oddly they all seem to jibe with each other. I typed in the words "Obama" and "biography" in Google and came up with some 5,370,000 entries. This is like people who say they don't know what Obama's agenda is if elected. Despite the fact that you can go to his website and order a complete 'Blueprint for Change" that details his plans or simple read a breakdown issue by issue on the Web at his campaign site.

                                          What exactly is wrong with you people? Is there something in the water where you live? Or have you been knocking back the neocon Kool-Aid so much that you can't see straight? You don't get to be a U.S. Senator much less a Presidential candidate without being thoroughly vetted and nobody has undergone more scrutiny than Barack Obama.

                                          Never mind if you vote for McCain/Palin you will be voting for candidates who will continue to further enrich the weaIthiest Americans, while those of us below will wait like baby chicks for their mother to regurgitate that wealth only to see her swallow it whole as we have seen for 8 solid years. The GOP doesn't believe in trickle down, they clearly believe in trickle up. I am shocked at the continued stupidity of my fellow citizens. I see commercials continuing to insist that Obama will raise YOUR taxes. Nevermind that the YOUR they are speaking of is the small percentage (roughly 5%) of Americans who have realized the benefits of the Bush tax cuts. Growing up in this country I knew we had dullards amongst us but I never truly realized the extent of the problem until the last 8 years. It is a full blown epidemic.

                                          Want proof? This is the very same breakdown of tax rates that Bob Shieffer quoted to both candidates in Wednesday's debate. There was no quibbling from either about the accuracy of this chart from the Tax Policy Center.
                                          http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candi...

                                          If your taxes are going up you are already quite lucky in regards to your income. You can afford the increase. The vast majority of Americans clearly will be getting a tax break under Obama, not McCain, who will give those breaks to the wealthy and corporate America. Those are simply the facts. If you believe in the myth of trickle down by all means vote for McCain. But don't complain when you find yourself screwed again. And there will be sand in the vaseline this time around!

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                                            Patience1 year, 1 month ago

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                                            I look at it this way Obama plan will get me back $500.00 extra but my Boss will have to pay $150,000.00 extra in taxes so there goes my $1.25hr raise next year down to maybe 0.25cents Or in other words i loose about $1,400.00yr due to the fact my Boss will have to recover the loss some how. Looks like in the long run with McCains plan i am much better off!

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                                              vor1 year, 1 month ago

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                                              Your boss must make some mad money! And he's going to cut you $1.00 an hour? He must be a Repub. He is only going to be paying the taxes on his profits. If he is pulling in 250k+ a year in gross profit and can't afford to share with his employees he is a SOB! Y'all use some mad math around your parts!

                                              Note that McCain's ads say Obama is going to raise YOUR taxes. Do you still believe that? You just need to get a real job. Stand on your own two feet. Sounds like you are taking tickets at a movie theater, LOL!

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                                              Bacalao1 year, 1 month ago

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                                              I look at it this way Sarah Palin paid a little over 10% in taxes last year. This was at the same time I paid almost 30%. I am not rich, she is. I am lower middle class. she doesn't even fall into the catagory of middle class unless you use J.S.M. III's idea that if you make under 3mil per annum your are middle class. I think the middle class is taking too much of the tax burden. Yes I know that the upper 50% pay over 80% of the taxes in dollar amount not percent of income. My take is we should all pay roughly the same percent. Or would you rather we all paid the same dollar amount?

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                                            spkguy1 year, 1 month ago

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                                            y_soitenly

                                            Posting crap like that from Anti-Semite Andy Martin... Well you know....You wouldn't want people calling you an Anti-Semite, would you? You just might give people the impression that you also might be an anti-Semite.

                                            Your posts say more about you than they do about Barack Obama,

                                            I seriously recommend that consult a Psychiatrist

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                                              y_soitenly1 year, 1 month ago

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                                              spkguy,

                                              It's all news... no matter which way you want to spin it.
                                              I know your just upset that I haven't ran any positive stories on the messiah, yet.
                                              But, L.O.L. you got alot of nerve spkguy!
                                              Look at the mutant skeleton face that you use as an avatar and you call me out ..to see, a shrink?!
                                              You should do stand-up comedy, my friend.

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                                          GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                          altnrg
                                          That's what puzzles me. If it had been, surely the lawsuit in Pa. would have been dismissed by now. Simply assuming the government has done everything right isn't realistic.

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                                            vor1 year, 1 month ago

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                                            No, we should live in suspicion rather than assume a US senator has been properly vetted! One that has been scrutinized to a level that likely no other ever has been in history. What stupidity! The desperation of the Right know no bounds.

                                            Note the name of the website this is linked to. These people wouldn't be showing any bias would they? Obama has instigated riots in Kenya, dealt with shady characters in Chicago (I suppose no Chicago politician is technically qualified to run for any national office if this is a criteria) and apparently worked with Bill Ayres in plotting to bomb the Capitol and Pentagon when he was 8 years old.

                                            If this stuff was smeared on paper I wouldn't touch it, fecal matter is a common cause of the spread of disease.

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                                              amazed1 year, 1 month ago

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                                              A Senator just needs to be a citizen. He is under no constitutional obligation to be American born.

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                                                Bacalao1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                Then why was Jefferson Davis( ex-president of the C.S.A.) denied even though he won the election?

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                                                Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                vor - Obama was 30 years old when he chose to associate with Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn and Wright.

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                                                  lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                  McCain was older than that when he associated with C.Gordon Liddy. He was also a card carrying member of Singlaub's council that was a terrorist organization that illegally supplied weapons to Contra rebels to overthrow their government and had Nazi ties.
                                                  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27062761/
                                                  But I'm sure you will defend the outlaw which is what those that don't obey the law are called. McCain was a member of the Singlaub's council while he was Senator ( no record of him ever withdrawing his membership) and supported them while that very same Senate made it illegal to do what he was involved in. But I guess Obama's association in an organization that was helping the community is worse than McCain at the same time breaking the law.

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                                                    Bacalao1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                    You forgot Palin's connection to people who wish to remove a star from our flag. People who's leader recently spoke before the U.N. under the flag of IRAN. Yes her connection is indirect , but her husband's connection is very direct.

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                                            GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                            A lawyer educated at Harvard knows how to delay these lawsuits, what's amazing to me is that it doesn't seem to raise alarms that a lawsuit had to be filed. I'm beginning to wonder if it matters to the general population? Am I really just a nitpicker? If so, so be it. Deceit is a disqualifier in my eyes.

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                                              Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                              No. You're not a nitpicker. You're an idiot.

                                              McCain's drowning in deceit, just like Palin, but I don't see you commenting on them.

                                              Obama's a US Senator with a high level of security clearance. Do you really think he hasn't been vetted by the various intelligence agencies?

                                              Idiots.

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                                                GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                More nastiness and name calling without cause. I have not been blindly supportive of McCain. He was not my first choice. Refresh my memory of any posts I have made that excused McCains deceit. If there was an absence of a post from me on those stories, how would you know I read them? Feel free to send them my way. When I've been attacked before I've replied with requests for more information, they have all been ignored. It's as though some of you can't back up your attacks, just get a thrill out of being nasty.

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                                                  jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                  More nastiness and name calling without cause>>>>

                                                  Actually, there is "cause." You aren't thinking critically about this, and therefore are contributing to the irrational fears of people who aren't terribly sophisticated on how to make informed decisions. People like you who parrot this nonsense actually affect elections through propaganda. It's really quite despicable, & I completely understand Dionys concern & his/her anger.

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                                                    amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                    GehLady some children were not raised, they were simply allowed to growup(?). It is a sign of the times. Please excuse Dionys and jordan11's out bursts.

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                                                      Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                      Actually, no. Please don't "excuse them." Pay attention to them and you may learn something beyond what you're being spoon fed by the GOP lie-squad.

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                                                        GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                        Thanks amervtrn,
                                                        I don't mind disagreement, that's healthy. I agree it's a sign of the times, crush anyone that doesn't fall into line, that chooses to think for themselves. LOL, I've never been one to conform to the herd!

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                                                          jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                          Absolutely ridiculous. You're a propagandist. You're in a "herd" all right. A herd that allows the ranting of a man like Andy Martin to affect this election. When you hear one of his assertions about Obama, rather than start in the logical place (which is to find out just 'who' this Andy Martin is), you come on here and add to the immature questioning and ranting about Obama. In doing so, you facilitate the growth of that propaganda. Yeah, you're not one to "conform to the herd." Riiiiight.

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                                                      pc251 year, 1 month ago

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                                                      http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/this_could_...

                                                      We are talking about the Presidency and this guy stonewalls?

                                                      The only way Obama can satisfactorily respond is to release his suposed Hawaiian birth certificate. If he has it, why hasn't he released it? If he does release it, game over. So why drag this out on technical grounds? It doesn't make sense.

                                                      If this video gets widely viewed and discussed, Obama's support will crumble in the face of his continued stonewalling. Why doesn't he authorize the state of Hawaii to provide birth certificate to the court?

                                                      The important point is that the Obama campaign has not chosen to confront Berg's claims in a straightforward manner. That is a fact. Posting two different electronic images of an alleged birth certificate does not carry weight in court. Nor do the opinions of organizations like factcheck.org or snopes.com. The only version of a birth certificate that would matter is one submitted to court and attested to as valid, under penalty of perjury, and subject to forensic examination.

                                                      It may be the case that Berg is completely wrong. If so, the Obama campaign could have submitted documentation to the court quashing this case. Instead, it has chosen to engage in a legal strategy of delay. Why would they do this if Obama's documentation were in order? Why would they only provide electronic (so far as I know) copies to friendly sources?

                                                      Funny that THIS OCTOBER surprise has been delivered the Democrats

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                                                        earthlingerer1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                        Seeing that birth certificates are public record, why hasn't someone just went and paid the clerk to get a copy???

                                                        I can go down to my town hall and buy birth certificates for anybody. Heck, I can go online and buy birth certificates of famous people still alive, with the only hassle being a couple of bucks.

                                                        But let's look at the facts.... obama was born in Hawaii, to an american mother... I don't see any problem. Without a doubt, children born to US citizens OUTSIDE of the us are considered "natural born" and eligible for the us presidency.

                                                        My friends child was born in a european country, and the us embassy said that there was nothing he could do. His kid was AUTOMATICALLY a us citizen, subject to us laws, and not able to renounce her citizenship until becoming of the age of majority.

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                                                          Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                          maybe - - -because it was sealed because he was adopted by Soetoro?

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                                                            Patience1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                            Klarissa
                                                            Very good point!

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                                                              lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                              Evidently there is no end to your stupidity because even that wouldn't change a thing. A natural born citizen cannot lose their citizenship by adoption.
                                                              McCain wasn't born in the USA either but that doesn't bother you so why would Obama being born in Hawaii upset you? Goldwater wasn't born in the USA but he was eligible because it was a USA territory.
                                                              http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mc...
                                                              Why don't you worry about McCain's involvement with C. Gordon Liddy who was a terrorist.

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                                                                GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                A quirk in the law states if only 1 parent, the mother is an American citizen she has to be 19. She was 18. The reports of the grandmother saying she was present at the birth in Kenya doesn't help. I don't know if it's true or not. The big problem is why the stall tactics, why not put it to rest? That's what doesn't make sense. Highest office in the land, still, he works for us. He's asking for a job. Why hire a lawyer to delay a legal proceeding over something that's a no brainer? If there's no merit to the case, why hasn't it been dismissed?

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                                                                  mivan41 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                  GehlLady, They just do not get this. I believe you truly are a independent thinker. I would think rather than Fight with you they would try to win you over with facts! Regardless, this issue needs cleared up post haste and well before Nov 3rd so people are well informed of the results else if it comes out after the election or to late for people to make a informed decision - Biden might be president by default!

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                                                                  amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                  It is G. Gordn Liddy a terrorist? You really should do your research.

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                                                                    Bacalao1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Liddy
                                                                    Advice to listeners

                                                                    Liddy is noted for controversial advice to his radio audience, including on one occasion in 1994, after the federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, Liddy advised his listeners: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests. ... Kill the sons of bitches." [5]

                                                                    Liddy's connections to John McCain

                                                                    In 1998 Liddy hosted a fundraiser at his house for John McCain's re-election campaign at which guests could have their pictures taken with McCain and Liddy.[6] Over the years, Liddy, who has referred to McCain as "an old friend," has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator's campaigns -- including $1,000 in 2008.

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                                                                amazed1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                You can no longer get a birth certificate of anyone but yourself, your spouse or your child. You might be able to get one for your parent, I'm not sure. You must show proof of ID to get this birth certificate (kind of puts you in a quandary when you get your wallet stolen or lost --- you need your birth certificate to get a new license and you need a state issued photo ID (license) to get your birth certificate.

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                                                                  corl641 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                  Another part that has not been brought up here is that Obamas mother applied for the birth certificate 4 days after he was born, this would give her the time to get back to Hawaii to have American citizenship.

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                                                                  mivan41 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                  Well if he isn't and the case is prolonged so that the American people don't know for sure and he wins then Biden becomes president with Pelosi second in line! This suit been around for over 3 months but is making its rounds to get to a High enough court it seems as if Obama is stalling and throwing road blocks up for some reason!

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                                                                  Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                  If, as Michelle MAY have said, and he was adopted by Soetoro, then his birth records were sealed.??

                                                                  So It should be cleared up, once and for all.

                                                                  We don't need that shadow hanging over this election. Better to clear it up now, not after Nov.4

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                                                                    wtagg1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    I really don't see why a shadow over this election is any different than the shadow that has hovered over the past few.

                                                                    I think that trying to disqualify the candidate using such a tactic, as desperate as it may be, might be detrimental to the republican candidate also, considering his place of birth.

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                                                                      amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                      The law used to be " avoid even the appearance of impropriety". I do agree this should have been settled long ago.

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                                                                        Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                        To anyone who can read and fact check, it WAS settled long ago.

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                                                                          GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                          Then why hasn't the case been dismissed? Why not provide the judge with the same certificate factcheck saw? Why spend the money on a lawyer to delay it? Factcheck has been wrong before. They aren't infallible.

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                                                                            lfergie8121 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                            Because it's all the republicans have now. Stir up doubt among the ignorant voters so they may vote for McCain.
                                                                            Please be advised that anyone can file a lawsuit for any reason but they will be thrown out in court when the facts are presented. Providing it is an impartial judge. The republican strategy is to get the lawsuits in the paper to create the "shadow" you speak of knowing full well they are false and with the "soft" money behind the republicans there is no limit.
                                                                            Of course you know this but you asked the question to cast a little more shadow.

                                                                            "Factcheck has been wrong before. They aren't infallible."
                                                                            Maybe you can give us an example of something this important that they've been wrong about especially since they show pictures of the birth certificate.

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                                                                            amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                            Dionys, most of us prefer fact over opinion, even yours.

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                                                                            y_soitenly1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                            Dionys,

                                                                            Re: "To anyone who can read and fact check"

                                                                            Factcheck.org is biased and unreliable and owned by the Annenberg Foundation.
                                                                            Senator Barack Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation.

                                                                            William (Bill) Ayers, unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist and a friend of the Obamas, was instrumental in founding the Challenge, thanks to his ties to Mayor Richard Daley. The first Daley was also a pal of Thomas Ayers, Bill’s father, former CEO of ComEd (owned by Exelon).Factcheck.org, used as a resource by so many who wish to “debunk” negative coverage of Obama, is also a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation.

                                                                            You’ll recall that Factcheck was the second site to publish the now-suspect Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) reportedly received from the Obama campaign.

                                                                            Factcheck.org is NOT non-partisan here. Just because they say Obama's COLB is legit is exactly like saying Martha Stewart wasn't guilty of insider trading.........before you Obamabot trolls come on this site and try to defend Obama, get a clue - we have done our homework, have you?!?!?!?!

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                                                                    corl641 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                    Ok, my question is this: you know that Obamas lawyers will postpone this forever, what happens if he gets in, serves his term then settles the case, and the court finds that he was ineligble to begin with? Does it all just become another chapter in his next book?

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                                                                      pc251 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                      they can stall all they want........the story now has legs and that is something they cant't stall or get out in front of.......evn more suspicious is the MSM's silence on this story and that is a fact that will not be lost on voters, especially the independents........

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                                                                        Sabretooth1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                        Tinfoil hat alert...beware. Man i love watching you nuts bang off the walls for a couple days then change direction and do it all over again.

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                                                                        Lurch1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                        The Republicans used to complain about BS lawsuits and the related waste of taxpayer money. lol eh.

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                                                                        normallysilent1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                        If there is any question regarding being a natural-born citizen. These questions should have to be resolved before the persons name is ever put on the ballot.

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                                                                          Patience1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                          Exactly but it was not.

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                                                                          skeptic2711 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                          Is John McCain, who was born in Panama, a natural born citizen?

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                                                                            Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                            yes, born of military parents, both US citizens - it is called being "born under the flag"- there is presumed to be a US flag over the bed of the mother when she gives birth.

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                                                                              HateKoolAid1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                              The U.S flag flys over the capital of Hawaii, therefore Hawaii is under it, so Obama having been born there is a DE JURE citizen also.

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                                                                                amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                The US flag does not fly over Kenya.

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                                                                                  Patience1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                  Kenya? Is not that where Obama's half sister and his grandmother say he was born?

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                                                                                    amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                    Which Grand mother? Read the suit as filed.

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                                                                                      GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                      His fathers mother has said she was present at the birth. Obamas mother then flew to Hawaii to register the birth. She was unable to fly out of Kenya in time for him to be born in Hawii.

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                                                                              NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                              how do we even know he was born in panama? I've never seen the birth certificate. where can I find it on the web? did they even make birth certificates in those days?

                                                                              we are going to need absolute proof or we obviously have a problem here since McCain can't prove he's a US citizen. therefore, he should be disqualified.

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                                                                              skeptic2711 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                              The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen.

                                                                              http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

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                                                                                normallysilent1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                Yes, glad you understand that much but that's not the question. The question is if he was actually born in Hawaii

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                                                                                  GWHayduke1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                  I read somewhere, rushlimbaugh.com I believe, that Obama was actually born to aliens on the planet / satellite Neptune.

                                                                                  Now, about this economic trouble.......

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                                                                                    Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                    "The question is if he was actually born in Hawaii"

                                                                                    According to Hawaii and the State Department, there's no question.

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                                                                                      DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                      Simple math ..

                                                                                      Hawaii Statehood: 1959
                                                                                      Obama's Birthday: August 1961

                                                                                      Resolved, move on now, he made it by 2 years.

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                                                                                        pc251 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                        however his Grandmother says she was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born.........

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                                                                                          Sabretooth1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                          Indeed, and i bet her memory is as solid as you need to think it is. Heck, John McCain thinks he is a presidential candidate and thinks palin would make a good VP.

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                                                                                      mivan41 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                      Its not the 14th amendment thats the problem in Obamas case He must be actually born in the US since both parents were not Americans and he must also have lived here 14 years. He meets the 14 years - but there is problems with his Hawaiian birth documents and the person that filed the case is a LIFE long DEMOCRAT that is NOT a Alien to the law - far from it. He has
                                                                                      reasonable proof if you watch the video. This has been going on for months and is not settled yet - That in itself does NOT look good for Obama!

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                                                                                      cloud151 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                      Yes. Now lets get to the issues please.

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                                                                                        allheavens1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                        His birth certificate was authenticated by the state of Hawaii. Now why is this still an issue?

                                                                                        So who is Philip J. Berg? He's a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania; former member of the Pennsylvania Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA. In 2005 he was fined and sanctioned $10,000 for having committed a "laundry list of unethical actions."

                                                                                        "Other attorneys should look to Mr. Berg's actions as a blueprint for what not to do when attempting to effectively and honorably perform the duties of the legal profession," U.S. District Judge J. Curtis wrote.

                                                                                        "This court has grown weary of Mr. Berg's continuous and brazen disrespect toward this court and his own clients. Mr. Berg's actions ... are an enormous waste of judicial time and resources that this court cannot, in good conscience, allow to go unpunished," Joyner wrote."


                                                                                        Read rest of article here: http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=112202311726...

                                                                                        This is why Obama won't produce it. This guy is a nutcase.

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                                                                                          Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                          all - doesn't matter if the claimant is a nut case if the the suit has merit.

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                                                                                            HateKoolAid1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                            Which it don't.

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                                                                                            pc251 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                            I think this is the evidence Berg needs. Here is the hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. I just received these photos from Hillary Clinton. See the plaque.

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                                                                                            http://i36.tinypic.com/o8ucd4.jpg

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                                                                                              pc251 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                              from Free Republic

                                                                                              http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2067017/pos...

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                                                                                                HateKoolAid1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                Damn pc25 you just broke the case. Those two pictures and article sums up the entire right wing case against Obama. Good work.

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                                                                                                  monkeysuncle1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                  An obvious cut-and-paste job. A bad one. Not even Photoshop. Probably MS Paint.

                                                                                                  Give up. You folks are pathetic

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                                                                                                dissent1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                "Now why is this still an issue?"

                                                                                                it's all they've got. this and a few other feeble pieces of fiction they have on a tight rotation like "he's a muslim! run away!", "he's a communist! runaway!", he's a marxist! run away!", "he's a liberal! run away!", he's a terrorist! run away!" when all they really want to say is "he's BLACK! run away!"

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                                                                                                  Patience1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                  FINAL REPORT ON OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGERY CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN

                                                                                                  http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/20...

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                                                                                                    corl641 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                    "His birth certificate was authenticated by the state of Hawaii. Now why is this still an issue?"

                                                                                                    It's still an issue because Obamas grandmother said she was at his birth in Kenya, and the fact that Obamas mother registered the birth 4 days after it happened. He does have a Hawaiian birth certificate, that is already been verified. It's where he was actually born that is the problem. Someone earlier said that there is a newspaper clipping reporting the birth, this information could have been taken from a list of recent birth certificates issued. There is also discrepencies with the hospital staff that were suppose to have been on duty that night.

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                                                                                                    simonsez1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                    I suppose this could end up in the Supreme Court if he wins and it is not resolved.

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                                                                                                      DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                      It's already been resolved, he's a U.S. Senator.

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                                                                                                        simonsez1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                        I don't think it's a Constitutional requirement for a Senator, but I'm not sure ...

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                                                                                                          DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                          at least 30 years old.

                                                                                                          a U.S. citizen for at least nine years at the time of election to the Senate.

                                                                                                          a resident of the state one is elected to represent in the Senate.

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                                                                                                      bubba21 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                      Get OVER it. Obama is a U.S. Citizen - period.

                                                                                                      Obama was born in Hawaii almost 2 years AFTER Hawaii became the 50th state of the United States.

                                                                                                      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

                                                                                                      His birth certificate is on the Internet.

                                                                                                      http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/B...

                                                                                                      Obama IS Constitutionally qualified to run for President.

                                                                                                      The Snopes article makes note of Berg's lawsuit and also notes the following regarding such lawsuits --

                                                                                                      "Lawsuits over candidate's eligibility are not uncommon.

                                                                                                      Similar lawsuits (none of them successful), for example, have been filed challenging the citizenship status of JOHN MCCAIN (who was born in the Panama Canal Zone), challenging the Wyoming residency status of Dick Cheney (who was born in Wyoming but moved to Texas), and challenging the citizenship status of 1964 Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater (who was born in Arizona before that territory was admitted as a state)."

                                                                                                      Berg's suit hasn't even made it to court and probably will never amount to anything anyway.

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                                                                                                        pc251 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                        Posting TWO DIFFERENT ELECTRONIC IMAGES of an alleged birth certificate does not carry weight in court.

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                                                                                                          Sabretooth1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                          But posting a couple of pics does, lol, dude you kill me, are you for real or just here to make fun of Repubs?

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                                                                                                            pc251 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                            LOL

                                                                                                            you guys are so stoooopid you don't know when you are being goaded......bo sense of humor

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                                                                                                        pc251 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2066207/p...

                                                                                                        Bill Clinton on August 3rd questioned the constitutionally qualifications of Obama with his coment made while traveling in Africa.

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                                                                                                        twelve1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                        Obama should just produce the document.
                                                                                                        Fighting,stonewalling just looks bad,like he has something to hide.

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                                                                                                          HateKoolAid1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                          I'm sure if you produce the appropriate paper work they will be more than happy to show you Obamas birth certificate. So what's stopping you from exposing the greatest conspiracy in modern times?? You are on the cusp of making millions 'twelve', get busy.

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                                                                                                            Dionys1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                            "Obama should just produce the document.
                                                                                                            Fighting,stonewalling just looks bad,like he has something to hide."

                                                                                                            When the state department and state records department already agree that he's a US Citizen, then the burden of proof that he isn't (which is ridiculous given the evidence) falls upon the people bringing the lawsuit.

                                                                                                            It's not his job to 'prove' he's a citizen to some whacked out Repugnant Con with an agenda. He's already proven it to the only government agency that matters.

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                                                                                                            jordan111 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                            What a waste of time. How's the economy doing?

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                                                                                                            FairNBalanced1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                            Is Barack Obama a Natural Born Citizen?

                                                                                                            Probably not. But since Obama is a lawyer, he knows how to postpone finding out.

                                                                                                            Regardless, anyone with any sense whatsoever, will know that Obama is suspect. Someone with a lot to be suspect of. Something is up folks. Keep denying it. We are already on to him. So glad that I have a time stamp. I normally don't think much of the "I told you so". But, that is pretty big when the far left is sleeping on command of the far left.

                                                                                                            WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                            But, you won't. Because you have been swayed by the far left machine. It has sucked you up!!!

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                                                                                                              Justice4All1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                              Part of the reason I voted for Obama is all of these sleezy accuzations from the McCain camp.
                                                                                                              McCain was born in Panama, why doesn't that bother anybody.
                                                                                                              If McCain were a leader he could demonstrate that he was a leader. But all these sleezy character smeers are a last ditch effort by a campaign that has no platform.

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                                                                                                                Justice4All1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                I voted absentee so I already voted. And I did not vote so much for Obama as I voted against McCain/Palin.
                                                                                                                All the sleeze is the first strike against McCain.
                                                                                                                Picking Palin was strike two.
                                                                                                                I had an itchy finger and voted before strike three. But I'm sure McCain will pull something out of his hat at the last minute.

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                                                                                                                tchef1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                More total BS from the Cons. Can't talk about issues, might as well talk about crap.

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                                                                                                                  jaern1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                  http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/q-with-philli...

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                                                                                                                    ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                    Geez, I live the passion shown by Cons on this issue.

                                                                                                                    If only they had been willing to put the same amount of effort into asking for proof of Saddam's imaginary WMDs, then we might have lost all those precious lives in Iraq for nothing.

                                                                                                                    They always take the side opposite of the brown man in the Con Culture of Lies and Incompetence.

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                                                                                                                      k9kssr1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                      Hefaa

                                                                                                                      You are right. I have a friend that is from Hawaii and she was a Ho before she got married.

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                                                                                                                      vandeewine-531 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                      The biggest danger facing our nation is not terrorism or the economy or taxes or anything that anyone talks about. Instead, it's the rapidly growing contingent of morons and stupid-a$$es that are filling up our populace. I guess this is what we get for putting zero emphasis on education for as long as we have.

                                                                                                                      We have a voting age because presumably people under 18 aren't educated or mature enough to vote, so anyone stupid enough to believe anything about this story should lose their right to vote.

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                                                                                                                        ISITJUSTME1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                        I didn't hear when Barrack's mother traveled to Africa to have him and when she returned to America after the birth. He would have had to have a Kenyan passport to get back into the US. To start school he would have had to have a birth certificate. He would have to show a birth certificate to get a drivers license. He would need a BC for selective service. A BC for a Social Security card.

                                                                                                                        Now I need a BC, I got a headache.

                                                                                                                        What does the maternal grandmother say? That will clear it up.

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                                                                                                                          Patience1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                          What does the maternal grandmother say? That will clear it up.
                                                                                                                          That he was born in Kenya.

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                                                                                                                          ronnierayjenkins1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                          Obama has been vetted and checked probably more than any candidate in US history. Once again, the smears will not work, all people have to keep in mind is this:

                                                                                                                          http://www.ronnierayjenkins.com/topics/deathinappa...

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                                                                                                                            y_soitenly1 year, 1 month ago

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                                                                                                                            ronnierayjenkins,

                                                                                                                            You are so full of crap. He hasn't been vetted for this!

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